Board 8 > Dota 2 Mafia 2 Topic more than 2 less than 3 - a Valve production.

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ctesjbuvf posted...

By all means do attempt to explain to me why this works for Lea.

Lea has been driving lynches and conversation in a coherent way (general town vibe established) and counterclaiming Kirby would be a dumb move as scum

Lopen posted...

Lea has been driving lynches and conversation in a coherent way (general town vibe established) and counterclaiming Kirby would be a dumb move as scum

Didn't we have this whole argument to say that, no, it wouldn't actually be quite so risky for her

Lopen posted...

I never said Sultan lied about what he thought I said he lied about what he did

Just figured I'd explain why you're using it in jest differently than I would in case you weren't sure

Oh, it's not in jest. At this point, I think it's just clear you're lying when you keep me on your Scumlist.

Lea is a vote you make when you want to force yourself into the thought that there can only be one Miller and want to believe Kirby. That's the extent of the logic I see there. It's bad logic. You need to improve it or the vote is meaningless.

It also prevents Kirby from being properly the ultimate Miller. If you believe Kirby's claim you should be more likely to believe 2 Miller setup than not.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Oh, it's not in jest. At this point, I think it's just clear you're lying when you keep me on your Scumlist.

It's less I'm lying and more I lack conviction in #4 relative to #1-#3.

I'm of the mindset that Ulti is the best choice. I don't like it because Ulti has barely been here, but that's where my head is.

Red is good to push around as well, but y'all know I always this by now.

Getting Red to say anything at all is a good endeavour.
I am ued to him having an opinion on me by now.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm of the mindset that Ulti is the best choice. I don't like it because Ulti has barely been here, but that's where my head is.

Red is good to push around as well, but y'all know I always this by now.

the fruit hangs low

Also thats an interesting thing to come back for and commen on, HB

htaeD posted...

Also thats an interesting thing to come back for and commen on, HB

do you have an actual thought on my argument there or are you just trying to be present

Ill move from Kirby just trying too decide Honestly

Question han If you had a vote to use who would you use it on.

The reason I'm hesitant on HB is he tunneled alot like is that nessisarily a scum thing to do??

I also feel like he has been the lynch leader majority of the dayband nothing has really changed there which makes me feel maybe its wrong and scum is laying low?

I am very weary of the 2 millers and the worse sounding of the 2 is Kirby that is why I haven't moved. I dont think it be lea

Chang I feel is a good option
And Ulti also still seems like a great option

Ulti probably is a "safe" day one option i am sure he is. Scum or 3rd party and not town i dont really see him being town.

I want everyone to tell me why lynching ulti is a bad idea here?

Hbthebattle posted...

do you have an actual thought on my argument there or are you just trying to be present

Oof, the sass.
My actual thought is 'so thats a nultell. That helps a lot of nothing'

Do you have anything new to add or are you just trying to be present?

I mean Ulti does seem to have a cool item I guess.
And his lack of activity may be caused by his feelings of gratitude holding back his inner frenzy.

Thats just a joke theory of mine, dont take it too seriously.

So ulti is reserved cause he's town and want to use his item and doesn't want scum to kill him too quickly this game?

is that the theory?

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Nah its weird as hell to me too dont worry. He annoys me but i struggle a bit to find the right words to throw at him.

I will say this much, Lopen, I am not convinced Kirby is town at all.

But if you can humor a town role getting an ability effectively useless to town, why can you not humor that role gaining miller just for the fun of making it town trap in more ways? Miller doesn't need a second miller to be a town trap, this ultimate miller thing is just something you came up with.

Btw, for a 3 topic day 1 with a bunch of useless stuff in between from most of us, Hb is getting way too much heat for his contributions.

Also ctes basically confirming he hasn't really been following a chunk of the game.

I believe Ulti is actually just prevented from being around, don't think he's hide. But I am concerned about the presence he had when he was here compared to other games.

Obellisk posted...

So ulti is reserved cause he's town and want to use his item and doesn't want scum to kill him too quickly this game?

is that the theory?

I mean, he's assuredly busy. But it's more weird that he just doesn't seem to have much of a thumb on the game when he does pop in.

Like I said, when he gunned at Kirby for a flavor thing then hopped off, it struck me a little like him thinking he had a good angle to pursue Kirby on, then getting cold feet when he realized it wasn't what he thought it was.

Obellisk posted...

So ulti is reserved cause he's town and want to use his item and doesn't want scum to kill him too quickly this game?

is that the theory?

Oh the reserved part doesnt make him town. I just dont think it makes him scummier than past Ulti necessarily.

Still a reserved Ulti is better than a quiet Ulti, which he is being moreso right now.

Ctes why lea over Kirby exactly just curious you earlier said both may be scum

ctesjbuvf posted...

I believe Ulti is actually just prevented from being around, don't think he's hide. But I am concerned about the presence he had when he was here compared to other games.

Stunning and hiding players? Seems ruder than possible.

Guess its time for the dread @UltimaterializerX

Feel free to elaborate, red.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ctes why lea over Kirby exactly just curious you earlier said both may be scum

I can be convinced the other way around, but it's mostly feeling better about Kirby if I look at the two without their roles.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Feel free to elaborate, red.

I can be convinced the other way around, but it's mostly feeling better about Kirby if I look at the two without their roles.

That is a fair assessment I am still hung up on how his 2nd ability is a pro town one I dont think anyone has given a valid reason for it other than Kirby and Lopen saying its a fuck you Miller role. Your ability is millery you're also a miller??

I'm sure ulti is busy with work. but even in the past with work he's definitely given much more.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Feel free to elaborate, red.

I can be convinced the other way around, but it's mostly feeling better about Kirby if I look at the two without their roles.

Thinking Lea is scum over kirby is ludicrous.

Obellisk posted...

I'm sure ulti is busy with work. but even in the past with work he's definitely given much more.

Hes done this before. Hell recently.

And theres at least one recent game he gave more apparent effort except on closer inspection it was clear he just wasn't reading the game at all.

Ulti is a cop out lynch. Sultan or Hb it must be one

Btw, debating on whether or not its useful to even use this item I have today.
I know from experience that motion detection becomes a lot more useful at endgame.

htaeD posted...

Btw, debating on whether or not its useful to even use this item I have today.
I know from experience that motion detection becomes a lot more useful at endgame.

Consider at endgame items might just be hsving everyone moving all the time.

Thats true as well. And everyone who isnt moving as a power could just be going to the shop.
Useful!

I dont suppose anyone more trustworthy than Ulti has a senty ward thingy so I can give them cash.

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For the record that was caught for the wrong reasons and I would have said that as town!

Anyway I think ulti is third party but I think third party is a bad day one lynch as it gives no game solving material as town and scum both want it dead

We leash him and let him continue to Roshan stun Han

Leafeon13N posted...

Thinking Lea is scum over kirby is ludicrous.

I've been back and fourth all day, do you want to lynch Kirby?

I'll take this as you answering my question, even if it's indirect.

Wait, why thinking that Ulti stunned Han. Is that a guess based on flavor?

Flavor and function. Third party having a no vote stun just makes the most sense.

Also if Roshan is the third party I would see him being survivor anyway. Def not serial killer. Pretty town harmless. Not a priority to kill over scum. We kill Ulti now are Sultan and hb just gonna magically become townish? Probably not. Best to make a meaningful decision rather than last minute pivot to Ulti

HB please come back

What if Lopen is Roshan and he's just going to project Roshan onto everyone he tries to lynch all game...