Board 8 > The Russia Ukraine War appears to be continuing

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Maniac64
06/24/23 1:21:18 PM
#152:


kevwaffles posted...
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1672595292686876672

Posted in politics containment too
Ok I was following until Rachel Ray. Can someone explain that part of the situation?

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MrSmartGuy
06/24/23 1:24:04 PM
#154:


Maniac64 posted...
Ok I was following until Rachel Ray. Can someone explain that part of the situation?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/24/yevgeny-prigozhin-the-hotdog-seller-who-rose-to-the-top-of-putin-war-machine-wagner-group

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LightningStrikes
06/24/23 1:36:04 PM
#155:


The virgin KGB Agent vs the chad hot dog merchant

Edit: Note - Prigozhin is also terrible.

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mnk
06/24/23 1:42:30 PM
#156:


LightningStrikes posted...
The virgin KGB Agent vs the chad hot dog merchant

Edit: Note - Prigozhin is also terrible.

Yeah, it's a weird situation where you want to root against Putin, but the opposing force is a literal neo-nazi war criminal, so then you realize what you're actually rooting for is everyone involved to kill each other

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swordz9
06/24/23 1:44:49 PM
#157:


The biggest tragedy is they cant take the Pro-Putin American Fascists to their graves with them because theyre safe in America right now
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LightningStrikes
06/24/23 1:52:56 PM
#158:


And Prigozhin says they are turning back (they had effectively reached the outskirts of Moscow). Sounds like they made a de-escalation deal, or in other words Putin capitulated. Also while all this was happening Ukraine crossed the Dnipro.

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htaeD
06/24/23 1:57:37 PM
#159:


Hard to win the game of explosive chicken when the game is happening near your own capitol.

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LightningStrikes
06/24/23 2:45:26 PM
#160:


Yep it is sounding like Wagner will continue on as a PMC (Russian government wanted to make them part of the army from July on) with full legal immunity for everything. Also sounds like Defence Minister Shoigu and Military Chief of Staff Gerasimov are out. In other words they gave Wagner everything they wanted lol.

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mnk
06/24/23 2:49:04 PM
#161:


So does this mean Wagner group has more or less been given more authority to be more ruthless in their advancement in Ukraine? =/

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Corrik7
06/24/23 3:31:38 PM
#162:


mnk posted...
So does this mean Wagner group has more or less been given more authority to be more ruthless in their advancement in Ukraine? =/
Wagner was offered 3 things.

  1. The resigning of Soiku.
  2. Complete independence and immunity for all of Wagner.
  3. The option to return to Africa with the PMC.


Putin almost completely capitulated, and I find it pretty safe to say Putin probably has to pay a bunch also.

Wagner took out 6 helicopters and a fixed-wing mobile command plane, 12 pilots at least, and caused Russia to damage their own roads and bridges / declare martial law in Moscow.

Some of Wagner is mad that Prigozhin accepted the deal and didn't just take Moscow.

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Mr_Lasastryke
07/05/23 5:05:26 AM
#163:


bump

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PeaceFrog
07/13/23 12:50:55 PM
#164:


Reposting from politics topic as well.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-prisons-civilians-torture-detainees-88b4abf2efbf383272eed9378be13c72

Interviews with victims and separate confirmation of mass imprisonment and torture, human trafficking, trading civilians for soldiers in swaps, and other atrocities.

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