Poll of the Day > Why are people freaking out over this scene?

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Ozmose posted...

There's nothing weird about women buying tampons for themselves. There's plenty weird about a guy doing it.

why is it weird for a guy to buy tampons at all? many men without vaginas have relatives or loved ones with vaginas they run errands for lmao

imagine being so insecure in your masculinity you can't even buy a feminine hygiene product

I always take a picture and send it to her to double confirm from the list for that stuff. I cannot stand having to go back to the store. The only time I remember liking that was when I first got my car and my Dad forgot something, my Mom bitched him out and I volunteered to go back and get the stuff. The again Winn-Dixie was only a mile away in Weddington. My closest grocery here is 15 minutes drive. At least to the ones I wanna go to. The goddamn neighborhood walmart store can kiss my ass. Fuck off with all the walmarts.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I understood things a lot better when Sex and Gender where synonyms. When it was okay to be a non-stereotypical representation of one of them without it making you the other one. But if using Male/Female to refer to biology and using Man/Woman to refer to how someone fits into society helps us to understand each other in discussing these things then let's be consistent about it. Personally I don't like it because I think that reinforces sterotypes and I thought as a society we had decided stereotypes were bad.

If that sounds like I'm ignorant or playing dumb so be it.

sex and gender have never been synonyms

it has always been ok to non-stereotypically represent a gender without making you it, and still is

the bolded sentence seems like a you problem

it doesn't reinforce stereotypes to identify as a man, a woman, or as nonbinary. some people are gender-conforming, some aren't. that's like saying that being a doctor reinforces stereotypes about doctors. or an extremely stereotypical dentist will force other dentists to be stereotypical. nah. someone being a certain identity doesn't have to undermine the identities of others.

how odd that I know a lot of butch women with no desire to transition hmmm I can't believe that they are allowed to non-stereotypically represent gender norms without the pressure to trans, who would've thunk it

I think the bigger question is why is a robot buying tampons?

Revelation34 posted...

I think the bigger question is why is a robot buying tampons?

I mean, if you got your period and had a robot to send, wouldn't you?

Revelation34 posted...

I think the bigger question is why is a robot buying tampons?

I haven't seen the series yet, but from what I gather baymax goes for a walk around the city helping random people that look like they need help. One of them is a girl that gets her first period and hides in a bathroom. Baymax goes to get her some tampons.

Revelation34 posted...

I think the bigger question is why is a robot buying tampons?

The same reason anyone else who doesn't have periods buys them: As first aid for bullet wounds.

adjl posted...

The same reason anyone else who doesn't have periods buys them: As first aid for bullet wounds.

And nose bleeds

and anal fissures!

Guess what.
I also have pads in my car.
It's fine and I haven't had a giant masculinity crisis.

Also if anyone needs pads, I've got three in my car, I just need to know.

ReturnOfFa posted...

it doesn't reinforce stereotypes to identify as a man, a woman, or as nonbinary. some people are gender-conforming, some aren't.

I'll extend the benefit of the doubt and ask if this is what you meant. Did you just correlate fitting a stereotype with being gender-conforming and not fitting a stereotype with being non-gender-conforming?

ReturnOfFa posted...

that's like saying that being a doctor reinforces stereotypes about doctors

Now who is playing dumb? I expect you know quite well that the subject of the section you quoted was the separation. Just because you don't believe there was one doesn't excuse acting like you didn't know that's what I meant.

ReturnOfFa posted...

or an extremely stereotypical dentist will force other dentists to be stereotypical

Now the benefit of the doubt is wavering. What are the stereotypes of being a man? Some are being interested in cars, watching sports, and drinking lots of beer. If a man doesn't do those things it doesn't mean they stop being a man or make them something else. That's because those things didn't define what makes someone a man. But now gender is defined by social behaviors. That's what I meant by reinforcing stereotypes. They aren't accurate in describing a demographic but now your using them to identify who is in the demographic.

you put words together but they're overly convoluted and don't make sense. I can barely make heads or tails of it.

people are free to adhere to stereotypes if they want, it doesn't make it more 'enforceable' by society. it's the freedom to exist wherever one wants to on that spectrum that matters. you seem to wish for less enforcement of stereotypes. if you're just going to act in the opposite direction and tell people that they aren't free to fit into those stereotypes should they wish, you're limiting their freedom of gender expression. being trans doesn't necessitate someone be 'passing' as the stereotype of the gender they identify with. but they are free to do so.

we can both work towards breaking down stereotypes and allowing people a larger freedom of expression. they go hand-in-hand. you seem to want to judge people based upon how people are working within those parameters.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I'll extend the benefit of the doubt and ask if this is what you meant. Did you just correlate fitting a stereotype with being gender-conforming and not fitting a stereotype with being non-gender-conforming?

Identifiers exist. Yes, non-conforming would acknowledge a stereotype. That stereotype exists, because you are aware of it too. We can pretend it doesn't exist, but it does. Why dismiss their desire to express themselves within the confines of a certain form of gender expression? Is everyone required to be neutral should they transition in your world?

ReturnOfFa posted...

you put words together but they're overly convoluted and don't make sense

You didn't answer the question and the rest of you post further suggests you think stereotypes and gender-conformity are the same thing.

ReturnOfFa posted...

people are free to adhere to stereotypes if they want

Agreed.

ReturnOfFa posted...

it doesn't make it more 'enforceable' by society

I have no idea what this has to do with anything or how it relates to what I posted.

ReturnOfFa posted...

if you're just going to act in the opposite direction and tell people that they aren't free to fit into those stereotypes should they wish

Could you quote where I said anything of the sort? You started out saying you couldn't understand me, now you're telling me I said things that are shocking to me.

@SKARDAVNELNATE You communicate in a very obtuse way I find. This may also just be the case that this would work a lot better in person. Apologies if I misconstrued what you had to say. I understand what you're saying about how what I said could be construed as enforcing stereotypes. I'm letting you know that I do not seek to enforce stereotypes, but recognize that people will desire to reside within that stereotyped space, potentially regardless of whether or not that stereotype is dismantled.

Isn't BAYMAX a walking tampon anyways?

ReturnOfFa posted...

Apologies if I misconstrued what you had to say.

Alright.

Lokarin posted...

Isn't BAYMAX a walking tampon anyways?

I think he might be a hyperbaric chamber.
Supposedly based on this character.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Baymax_(Earth-616)
Not sure how they changed a bodygaud to a healthcare companion.

Lokarin posted...

Isn't BAYMAX a walking tampon anyways?

Maybe for Big Mom.