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Mackorov
07/27/22 10:06:08 AM
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I see people around me talking like this is some next pandemic like covid was. Like seriously. Nothing exemplifies more about liberal political correctness bias than this right here...

Oh yea I get it, the media wants to avoid stigmatizing gay people. I have nothing against the community either but it's ironic since by not reporting on this about monkeypox, they're simply doing the same community they're trying to protect more harm instead.

Most gays wont even know they're the ones 98% more susceptible to monkeypox than not
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legendary_zell
07/27/22 10:12:30 AM
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What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.

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KobiusBrandle_F
07/27/22 10:13:11 AM
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facts = hurty feelings =(

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Stewman_Magoo
07/27/22 10:13:49 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.


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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER
07/27/22 10:14:04 AM
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Topic says 3 messages but only see 2. Post #2 missing.

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gunplagirl
07/27/22 10:15:17 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.
This, it's being linked to gay people and resulting in a lot of us being stigmatized more online and in the media and even on the streets. TC is being dishonest as hell.

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Robot2600
07/27/22 10:15:20 AM
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Yea I knew that MSM are the most at-risk group. Maybe it's just your news articles as a straight person or something. All the articles I see mention the high risk MSM thing.

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Mackorov
07/27/22 10:15:23 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.

Most media aren't reporting it. They're just reporting the parts like 'WHO declares health emergency' and 'monkeypox surpasses ___ cases'

If it wasnt the case, we wouldn't have articles like these from angry journalists trying to spread more of the truth

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/25/monday-briefing-monkeypox-gay-bisexual-men-public-health-who

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/18/monkeypox-gay-men-deserve-unvarnished-truth/
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IMNOTRAGED
07/27/22 10:17:33 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.


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Phantom36
07/27/22 10:17:34 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.

This. I rarely pay attention to the news anymore, have only briefly heard monkeypox mentioned a handful of times, and this fact is mentioned every single time.

Now they probably don't go on and on and on about it and hammer that point home, which is a good thing and not a bad thing, because do we really need to give homophobes more ammunition to hate? Of course not.

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evilpresident
07/27/22 10:19:32 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.


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Mackorov
07/27/22 10:21:18 AM
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If you're the kind of person glued to the internet all day... I mean sure, you'll likley see this news.

But most people that only browse tiktok/instagram only get the brief headlines that intentionally omits this fact. I'd be rich if I were give a penny for every ignorant person coming up to comment over there on how this is the next damn pandemic or something
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bigblu89
07/27/22 10:21:22 AM
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Any article I've seen about monkeypox fall into one of two categories.

Either talking about how prevalent it is in the LGBTQ community, compared to the straight community.

or

People being mad because all the articles are talking about how prevalent is is in the LGBTQ community, compared to the straight community.

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legendary_zell
07/27/22 10:22:19 AM
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Mackorov posted...
Most media aren't reporting it. They're just reporting the parts like 'WHO declares health emergency' and 'monkeypox surpasses ___ cases'

If it wasnt the case, we wouldn't have articles like these from angry journalists trying to spread more of the truth

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/25/monday-briefing-monkeypox-gay-bisexual-men-public-health-who

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/18/monkeypox-gay-men-deserve-unvarnished-truth/

I guarantee you that both the Guardian and the Post have discussed this multiple times each. Along with every other liberal outlet. That's where I learned about it. We've had multiple topics about it on this board and the politics board with articles and every single one cites "liberal media" outlets and explicitly discusses the prevalence among LGBT people.

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gunplagirl
07/27/22 10:23:39 AM
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Ah, but i do have a question tc. Why are you so concerned about making sure that the public associates monkey pox with the LGBT community?

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DipDipDiver
07/27/22 10:31:04 AM
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Mackorov posted...
If you're the kind of person glued to the internet all day... I mean sure, you'll likley see this news.

But most people that only browse tiktok/instagram only get the brief headlines that intentionally omits this fact.
I don't think this really lines up with the premise of the topic though. I mean if people are getting their news from tik tok and IG then no shit they aren't gonna get the whole story
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Questionmarktarius
07/27/22 10:31:38 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
Yea I knew that MSM are the most at-risk group. Maybe it's just your news articles as a straight person or something. All the articles I see mention the high risk MSM thing.
This.
If anything, the new trend in articles is how it should be avoided.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/26/1110431299/dr-fauci-monkeypox-vaccine-stigma-hiv-aids
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gunplagirl
07/27/22 10:32:24 AM
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Mackorov posted...
so we don't have some misleading uproar panic that this is some kinda new pandemic?

The WHO article is especially, misleading AF on this toward the public
I'm sorry, I don't follow. So if the public associates monkey pox with LGBT people, they won't think it is a new pandemic? How does that work?

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masterpug53
07/27/22 10:32:28 AM
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Mackorov posted...
so we don't have some misleading uproar panic that this is some kinda new pandemic?

Remember when AIDS was, according to some people, a thing that only the gay community had to worry about?

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bigblu89
07/27/22 10:33:46 AM
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Mackorov posted...
But most people that only browse tiktok/instagram only get the brief headlines that intentionally omits this fact.

If you're getting your news from IG Reels and TikTok videos, monkeypox is the least of your worries.


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MabusIncarnate
07/27/22 10:36:59 AM
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I'm with the majority here that has heard the association many more times than not, and I barely read the news anymore.

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HHH_is_the_game
07/27/22 10:44:13 AM
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I don't like how many people in this topic seem to think the facts should be avoided because of possible stigmatization. Stigmatization is bad but that doesn't mean we should get partial news, we need to know all the facts for things as important as this. It isn't up to the news to try to control how people react, they should report the facts as they are, and it's on people to react how they will. Misleading people to control them does not appeal.

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A_Good_Boy
07/27/22 10:50:19 AM
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I have never seen a mention of monkeypox without also mentioning homosexual or bi men.

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Suolevram
07/27/22 10:53:47 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Ah, but i do have a question tc. Why are you so concerned about making sure that the public associates monkey pox with the LGBT community?
If they are most susceptible and more likely to get infected, maybe that's something that should be brought to the forefront so as to inform people who practice that lifestyle to be aware?

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nfearurspecimn
07/27/22 10:56:25 AM
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It gets mentioned all the time though...

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Serious_Cat
07/27/22 10:59:16 AM
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An informal Google search for articles yielded exactly zero articles that don't mention it.

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nfearurspecimn
07/27/22 10:59:33 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

fair, next

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gunplagirl
07/27/22 10:59:35 AM
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Suolevram posted...
If they are most susceptible and more likely to get infected, maybe that's something that should be brought to the forefront so as to inform people who practice that lifestyle to be aware?
Are they more susceptible or are they just more likely to engage in close proximal activities that may exchange fluids which in turn are actually more likely to spread the disease?

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The_Creep_2020
07/27/22 11:07:28 AM
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Good faith: The Topic

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DespondentDeity
07/27/22 11:09:06 AM
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Wait so straight people cant get it at all?

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evilpresident
07/27/22 11:09:16 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Hmm, I wonder why.

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yusiko
07/27/22 11:12:39 AM
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I have tc tagged as delusional trumpist
This topic is clear anti gay because it's trying to frame monkey pox as a gay issue as if it was an std only affecting gay men

But it's not an std and while it's largely affecting gay men right now which is the same thing Republicans did with aids


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Questionmarktarius
07/27/22 11:12:57 AM
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DespondentDeity posted...
Wait so straight people cant get it at all?
It's not the "sex" part so much as it's the "naked twister" part.
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MrAndersonWb
07/27/22 11:16:37 AM
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Mackorov posted...
I see people around me talking like this is some next pandemic like covid was. Like seriously. Nothing exemplifies more about liberal political correctness bias than this right here...

Oh yea I get it, the media wants to avoid stigmatizing gay people. I have nothing against the community either but it's ironic since by not reporting on this about monkeypox, they're simply doing the same community they're trying to protect more harm instead.

Most gays wont even know they're the ones 98% more susceptible to monkeypox than not


that is because you can get it from stuff such as used towels or shirts or skin to skin contact, no matter your sexual orientation.

AIDS began as a disease that mostly infected gay people and look where we are now
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Giant_Aspirin
07/27/22 11:18:20 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.

this.

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So_dreamycreamy
07/27/22 11:18:27 AM
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Suolevram posted...
people who practice that lifestyle

This isn't raising any red flags at all.

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Unknown5uspect
07/27/22 11:20:29 AM
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HHH_is_the_game posted...
I don't like how many people in this topic seem to think the facts should be avoided because of possible stigmatization. Stigmatization is bad but that doesn't mean we should get partial news, we need to know all the facts for things as important as this. It isn't up to the news to try to control how people react, they should report the facts as they are, and it's on people to react how they will. Misleading people to control them does not appeal.
How is it partial news if everyone that's posted so far knows about what TC is claiming isn't being reported?

Where is the reporting coming from? The news.

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Beefbud
07/27/22 11:26:06 AM
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I just watched a mainstream media news report last night that said most cases were gay and bisexual men.

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Quorthon109
07/27/22 11:26:46 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Ah, but i do have a question tc. Why are you so concerned about making sure that the public associates monkey pox with the LGBT community?

TC seems to want msm referenced in every monkepox headline

In giant bold letters

To make absolutely sure that people know

Its not enough that the CDC and every other health department, and by extension every news outlet, includes mention of msm in their reports.

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MrMallard
07/27/22 12:02:56 PM
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Gay and bisexual men are being diagnosed more because they're going to the doctor when they get this shit. The stigma of gay sexuality being more disease-prone and trauma stemming from the AIDS epidemic has resulted in gay/bi men having a much more involved relationship with their doctors when something looks or feels off.

The reason monkeypox is spreading the way it is is because people don't understand the symptoms, and when they get the blisters and shit, they put off going to the doctor. They also don't understand how it spreads, meaning they don't take the proper precautions. You can get it from working in a close proximity to a coworker, you can get it from direct contact with an infection site, and you can get it from touching an object that's been contaminated like an article of clothing or from an office chair that's touched an infection site. You can get monkeypox through your skin.

There are two aspects of this coverage that makes the monkeypox outbreak even harder to contain.

First of all, scapegoating queer men. Topics like this paint it as a disease that's more likely to befall gay men than any other demographic. That's not true - gay men are more likely to get tested for it which is leading to higher rates of diagnosis, and one reason this is becoming an outbreak is because other demographics aren't getting tested for it and are spreading it without being diagnosed. When you hear "the majority of monkeypox cases are found in men who have sex with men", you probably don't feel as vulnerable to it - but all it takes is Susan from accounting getting a rash from her husband who got it from his coworker who got it from their daughter, which is a series of events that's more likely to happen when all of those people think it's a "gay disease" that they're not at risk of getting.

The second thing is saying that monkeypox is an STD.

Without insulting the intelligence of anyone flocking to this bullshit, monkeypox is not an STD.

As mentioned - monkeypox can be transmitted through airborne pathogens and both direct and indirect touch. You can get it from coworkers. You can get it after bumping into a stranger. You can pick something up that's been in contact with monkeypox pathogens previously, and the disease will infect your skin. None of those causes are inherently sexual despite the right-wing hysteria about this disease being a gay STD. You might as well call COVID or leprosy an STD, because you're more likely to get those diseases from fucking an infected person than from going to Whole Foods.

This is a Mackorov topic so the intent is obvious, but rather than get bogged down in the dumb CE discourse horseshit, let's be productive. You're just as susceptible to monkeypox as any gay man of any level of sexual activity, even if you're the straightest virgin who ever walked the earth. So instead of scapegoating promiscuous queer men as the bringer of this plague, consider making an appointment with your doctor the next time you get a particularly nasty rash or other significant ailment or discomfort. Consider getting a blood test for HPV or any other blood-borne diseases you haven't gotten tested for in a while. And maybe try to be more open with other people about getting doctor's appointments, and urge them to get checked out themselves. Like I know that's gonna sound like pussy shit to anyone reading this, but it's a reasonable and thoughtful course of action to protect yourself and others against yet another contagion.

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legendary_zell
07/27/22 12:47:30 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Gay and bisexual men are being diagnosed more because they're going to the doctor when they get this shit. The stigma of gay sexuality being more disease-prone and trauma stemming from the AIDS epidemic has resulted in gay/bi men having a much more involved relationship with their doctors when something looks or feels off.

The reason monkeypox is spreading the way it is is because people don't understand the symptoms, and when they get the blisters and shit, they put off going to the doctor. They also don't understand how it spreads, meaning they don't take the proper precautions. You can get it from working in a close proximity to a coworker, you can get it from direct contact with an infection site, and you can get it from touching an object that's been contaminated like an article of clothing or from an office chair that's touched an infection site. You can get monkeypox through your skin.

There are two aspects of this coverage that makes the monkeypox outbreak even harder to contain.

First of all, scapegoating queer men. Topics like this paint it as a disease that's more likely to befall gay men than any other demographic. That's not true - gay men are more likely to get tested for it which is leading to higher rates of diagnosis, and one reason this is becoming an outbreak is because other demographics aren't getting tested for it and are spreading it without being diagnosed. When you hear "the majority of monkeypox cases are found in men who have sex with men", you probably don't feel as vulnerable to it - but all it takes is Susan from accounting getting a rash from her husband who got it from his coworker who got it from their daughter, which is a series of events that's more likely to happen when all of those people think it's a "gay disease" that they're not at risk of getting.

The second thing is saying that monkeypox is an STD.

Without insulting the intelligence of anyone flocking to this bullshit, monkeypox is not an STD.

As mentioned - monkeypox can be transmitted through airborne pathogens and both direct and indirect touch. You can get it from coworkers. You can get it after bumping into a stranger. You can pick something up that's been in contact with monkeypox pathogens previously, and the disease will infect your skin. None of those causes are inherently sexual despite the right-wing hysteria about this disease being a gay STD. You might as well call COVID or leprosy an STD, because you're more likely to get those diseases from fucking an infected person than from going to Whole Foods.

This is a Mackorov topic so the intent is obvious, but rather than get bogged down in the dumb CE discourse horseshit, let's be productive. You're just as susceptible to monkeypox as any gay man of any level of sexual activity, even if you're the straightest virgin who ever walked the earth. So instead of scapegoating promiscuous queer men as the bringer of this plague, consider making an appointment with your doctor the next time you get a particularly nasty rash or other significant ailment or discomfort. Consider getting a blood test for HPV or any other blood-borne diseases you haven't gotten tested for in a while. And maybe try to be more open with other people about getting doctor's appointments, and urge them to get checked out themselves. Like I know that's gonna sound like pussy shit to anyone reading this, but it's a reasonable and thoughtful course of action to protect yourself and others against yet another contagion.

Facts and thank you for this post. It's amazing how quick we go back to narratives from 1981 when people perceive a chance to dunk on gay people.


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CanuckCowboy
07/27/22 12:50:50 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
What? I've never seen the topic mentioned without LGBT people and the percentages being mentioned.

This.

Not sure what news you follow tc. Maybe find better sources.

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Prestoff
07/27/22 12:52:36 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Gay and bisexual men are being diagnosed more because they're going to the doctor when they get this shit. The stigma of gay sexuality being more disease-prone and trauma stemming from the AIDS epidemic has resulted in gay/bi men having a much more involved relationship with their doctors when something looks or feels off.

The reason monkeypox is spreading the way it is is because people don't understand the symptoms, and when they get the blisters and shit, they put off going to the doctor. They also don't understand how it spreads, meaning they don't take the proper precautions. You can get it from working in a close proximity to a coworker, you can get it from direct contact with an infection site, and you can get it from touching an object that's been contaminated like an article of clothing or from an office chair that's touched an infection site. You can get monkeypox through your skin.

There are two aspects of this coverage that makes the monkeypox outbreak even harder to contain.

First of all, scapegoating queer men. Topics like this paint it as a disease that's more likely to befall gay men than any other demographic. That's not true - gay men are more likely to get tested for it which is leading to higher rates of diagnosis, and one reason this is becoming an outbreak is because other demographics aren't getting tested for it and are spreading it without being diagnosed. When you hear "the majority of monkeypox cases are found in men who have sex with men", you probably don't feel as vulnerable to it - but all it takes is Susan from accounting getting a rash from her husband who got it from his coworker who got it from their daughter, which is a series of events that's more likely to happen when all of those people think it's a "gay disease" that they're not at risk of getting.

The second thing is saying that monkeypox is an STD.

Without insulting the intelligence of anyone flocking to this bullshit, monkeypox is not an STD.

As mentioned - monkeypox can be transmitted through airborne pathogens and both direct and indirect touch. You can get it from coworkers. You can get it after bumping into a stranger. You can pick something up that's been in contact with monkeypox pathogens previously, and the disease will infect your skin. None of those causes are inherently sexual despite the right-wing hysteria about this disease being a gay STD. You might as well call COVID or leprosy an STD, because you're more likely to get those diseases from fucking an infected person than from going to Whole Foods.

This is a Mackorov topic so the intent is obvious, but rather than get bogged down in the dumb CE discourse horseshit, let's be productive. You're just as susceptible to monkeypox as any gay man of any level of sexual activity, even if you're the straightest virgin who ever walked the earth. So instead of scapegoating promiscuous queer men as the bringer of this plague, consider making an appointment with your doctor the next time you get a particularly nasty rash or other significant ailment or discomfort. Consider getting a blood test for HPV or any other blood-borne diseases you haven't gotten tested for in a while. And maybe try to be more open with other people about getting doctor's appointments, and urge them to get checked out themselves. Like I know that's gonna sound like pussy shit to anyone reading this, but it's a reasonable and thoughtful course of action to protect yourself and others against yet another contagion.

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