Current Events > Bill Burr calls out women for failing The WNBA and USWNT during standup special

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BlueTigerLion
07/24/22 12:20:00 PM
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https://www.totalprosports.com/2022/07/17/bill-burr-calls-out-women-for-failing-the-wnba-uswnt-during-new-standup-special-video/

Bill Burr is one of those unapologetic comedians who does not give a damn what comes out of his mouth when he speaks on a topic. Bill Burr: Live at Red Rocks dropped on Netflix and he absolutely killed it. For sports fans, he touched on the revenue disparities between mens and womens sports, particularly when it comes to soccer and the WNBA. For Bill, the answer was real simple: This is all womens fault. Look at the WNBA: they have been playing in front of 300 to 400 people a night for a quarter of a century. Not to mention, its a male-subsidized league. We gave you a league and none of you showed up. Where are all the feminists? That place should be packed with feminists faces painted, wearing jerseys, going fucking nuts like the guys do! Burr said. None of you went to the fucking games. You failed them. Not me. Not men women failed the WNBA. Ladies, name your Top 5 WNBA players of all time. Name 5 WNBA teams. Name the WNBA team in your city. You cant do it! You dont give a fuck about them. You dont sell any fucking tickets. Nobody is going to womens soccer games. Youre playing in a 20,000-seat arena, 1,500 people show up. Thats not a good night! The promoter lost his fucking ass on that gig. Nobodys watching your fucking sport and then youre gonna come an get mad at fucking men. They keep doing that shit. Why are you yelling at us? Its not my fucking job to give a fuck about womens soccer

Meanwhile, you look at the Kardashians theyre making billions. You look at those Real Housewives shows, theyre making money hand over fist. Because thats what women are watching and the money listens. You dont wanna watch this shit? They shoot it over there drowning these whores in money, purses and shoes, and botox, its just raining money. So, the money listens. Youd rather watch that shit, Real Housewives, just a bunch of women tearing each other down. Thats the message you send wed rather watch that than a bunch of women come together as a team and try to achieve a common goal. Wed rather watch them absolutely fucking destroy each other. And then in the end, you come back and you yell at fucking guys.


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The_X_Dawg
07/24/22 12:22:08 PM
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He fucking nailed that.
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cjsdowg
07/24/22 12:22:13 PM
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I don't know about Soccer but he is fucking right about the WNBA . And people blame men and double so black men for the WNBA failing. Like they would call out the NBA for making so much money. And to top it off. It is mostly Black men who watch that product .

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g0ldie
07/24/22 12:22:51 PM
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...I read this in his voice

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refmon
07/24/22 12:23:19 PM
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The_X_Dawg posted...
He fucking nailed that.


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KobiusBrandle_F
07/24/22 12:24:34 PM
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he's right. feminists and women in general need to do their part to support the WNBA and other women leagues. DO. BETTER.

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billcom6
07/24/22 12:27:55 PM
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Oh no little girls get to watch women play basketball. Let me whine about it.

Also here are attendance facts for those curious. Since he is literally wrong.

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/wnba/storm/storm-dominating-wnba-attendance-in-2022-season/281-bdb2463b-cf68-432d-9423-7c4952be4197


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Anteaterking
07/24/22 12:28:54 PM
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The comparison to the Kardashians here feels like a red herring. I don't think that's a bastion of feminist viewership either.

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BignutzisBack
07/24/22 12:29:10 PM
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I actually watched that special last night, started out so so and then got better and better

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CyricZ
07/24/22 12:29:50 PM
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Just so I know, is that a thing?

Where women are complaining that women's sports get lower attendance and it's men's fault?

Like is it actually a thing?

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creativeme
07/24/22 12:29:52 PM
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he's not wrong. girls always wanna complain that guys riding on the bench in the NBA still make over a million a season while the top WNBA players make who knows. $300k a year(maybe way over but whatever). but the WNBA would have been long gone if the NBA didn't buy it and keep it around and pay for everything. the WNBA just constantly loses money. other countries have basketball leagues and i'm assuming all of those are self sufficient since they have fans that care.
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gamer167
07/24/22 12:31:25 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Oh no little girls get to watch women play basketball. Let me whine about it.

Also here are attendance facts for those curious. Since he is literally wrong.

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/wnba/storm/storm-dominating-wnba-attendance-in-2022-season/281-bdb2463b-cf68-432d-9423-7c4952be4197



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Smackems
07/24/22 12:34:58 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Just so I know, is that a thing?

Where women are complaining that women's sports get lower attendance and it's men's fault?

Like is it actually a thing?
Wasn't the main lady on the US women's soccer team doing that

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whitelytning
07/24/22 12:35:13 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Oh no little girls get to watch women play basketball. Let me whine about it.

Also here are attendance facts for those curious. Since he is literally wrong.

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/wnba/storm/storm-dominating-wnba-attendance-in-2022-season/281-bdb2463b-cf68-432d-9423-7c4952be4197

The soccer article compares the women during a WC tournament to the men in a non tournament year and acknowledges that it varies like crazy for them and is usually much lower.

The WNBA article says one of the teams averages just over 2000 people.

BBs point is that women arent supporting these teams the way men support the mens teams and that they should do more to support a feminist product. Neither of the articles suggest otherwise.

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billcom6
07/24/22 12:36:18 PM
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whitelytning posted...
The soccer article compares the women during a WC tournament to the men in a non tournament year and acknowledges that it varies like crazy for them and is usually much lower.

The WNBA article says one of the teams averages just over 2000 people.

BBs point is that women arent supporting these teams the way men support the mens teams and that they should do more to support a feminist product. Neither of the articles suggest otherwise.
Is 2,000 more than 400?

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Heavy_D_Forever
07/24/22 12:36:21 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Oh no little girls get to watch women play basketball. Let me whine about it.

Also here are attendance facts for those curious. Since he is literally wrong.

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/wnba/storm/storm-dominating-wnba-attendance-in-2022-season/281-bdb2463b-cf68-432d-9423-7c4952be4197
The Seattle Storm are kind of the exception for the WNBA. They win a ton of championships and the city does show them a lot of support, but I imagine the cities with mediocre WNBA teams get absolute dogshit attendance numbers.

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Guns_of_Verdun
07/24/22 12:36:28 PM
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It's fine for a bit but it doesn't really hold water.

There's an entire society and centuries of propaganda telling women to grow up only caring about their apperance and housewife shit and drama.

You don't undo that quickly and womens sports are actively getting more and more popular every year. As are the standards of female athletes. They just don't get promoted in fact the conservative right wing intentionally downplays them for breaking gender norms.

It's like think of a TV show you really like.

Now imagine screaming at everyone else for not liking it. Blaming them for it not being more successful. They never saw it, heard it, thought about it etc.

Hell right now in Europe for I believe the first time ever they are quite heavily advertising/promoting the womens Euro soccer tournament in marketing and they have gotten huge backlash for it because people don't want to see female athletes playing sports and don't want it encouraged.

It reminds me of George Carlin's bit about how America goes to war because it's horny and that's why we elect people called Dick and Bush.

It's fine for a bit but when people take it seriously, that's silly.

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Jagr_68
07/24/22 12:38:47 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Just so I know, is that a thing?

Where women are complaining that women's sports get lower attendance and it's men's fault?

Like is it actually a thing?

Yes. It's another one of those weak arguments from karens that gets brought up despite professional analysis showing the real problem.

Majority of women don't watch WNBA or womens sports so all Bill is saying put blame on themselves, not just men for "suppressing" the sport's non-existent popularity.

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whitelytning
07/24/22 12:39:20 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Is 2,000 more than 400?

Yes.

So youre hung up on the number used to make the point and not the point itself. Got it, carry on.

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Jagr_68
07/24/22 12:40:03 PM
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g0ldie posted...
...I read this in his voice

da LAYYdees

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Babidi123
07/24/22 12:41:33 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
da LAYYdees


ohhhh jeezus
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cjsdowg
07/24/22 12:45:34 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Oh no little girls get to watch women play basketball. Let me whine about it.

Also here are attendance facts for those curious. Since he is literally wrong.

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/wnba/storm/storm-dominating-wnba-attendance-in-2022-season/281-bdb2463b-cf68-432d-9423-7c4952be4197

So they can stop getting paid from the NBA right?

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Deutschenlied
07/24/22 12:46:10 PM
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He's not completely wrong, but it's not right to blame it all on women.

Men shouldn't give a fuck about women's sports? Women give a fuck about men's sports. Why be sexist and say that men and women can't like each other's things? And are "men" really being punished here? I didn't know everyone with a penis was making money off US soccer. Didn't the USMNT have to sign off on this revenue split anyway?

Though no one watching women's sports is exactly why I laugh when weirdos pretend to care about them when a trans woman correctly demands to play with her fellow women.
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Krojen
07/24/22 12:51:24 PM
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Nobody has more WNBA merch than me, I can't do this by myself ladies.

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coolcono
07/24/22 12:54:18 PM
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Deutschenlied posted...
He's not completely wrong, but it's not right to blame it all on women.

Men shouldn't give a fuck about women's sports? Women give a fuck about men's sports. Why be sexist and say that men and women can't like each other's things? And are "men" really being punished here? I didn't know everyone with a penis was making money off US soccer. Didn't the USMNT have to sign off on this revenue split anyway?

Though no one watching women's sports is exactly why I laugh when weirdos pretend to care about them when a trans woman correctly demands to play with her fellow women.
Well I care about women's sports. Sports such as mud wrestling and bra and panties matches.

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NoxObscuras
07/24/22 12:56:12 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Is 2,000 more than 400?
Do you not understand hyperbole? He used exaggerated numbers, but what he said wasn't wrong. WNBA games pull in far less money than NBA games.

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Squall28
07/24/22 12:56:16 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Oh no little girls get to watch women play basketball. Let me whine about it.

Also here are attendance facts for those curious. Since he is literally wrong.

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/wnba/storm/storm-dominating-wnba-attendance-in-2022-season/281-bdb2463b-cf68-432d-9423-7c4952be4197

read between the lines brother

Climate Pledge Arena has been packed compared to other WNBA arenas

Bill Burr spot on as usual

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cjsdowg
07/24/22 1:20:20 PM
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They are the one's complaining while not watching. The WNBA exist because the NBA allows it.

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BignutzisBack
07/24/22 1:47:40 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Just so I know, is that a thing?

Where women are complaining that women's sports get lower attendance and it's men's fault?

Like is it actually a thing?

Yes, there's someone bitching about it on ESPN every other week

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YellowSUV
07/24/22 2:33:52 PM
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For the first 2 seasons of the WNBA, the Washington Mystics had the highest attendance in the WNBA (They even hung banners). This is likely because they on purposely had the similar name to the recently renamed NBA team, the Washington Wizards, and people got confused when buying tickets.

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IronWolf87
07/24/22 2:37:45 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
The Seattle Storm are kind of the exception for the WNBA. They win a ton of championships and the city does show them a lot of support, but I imagine the cities with mediocre WNBA teams get absolute dogshit attendance numbers.

As someone who lives in the PNW the Storm also got a lot of support due to the Sonics leaving. Not that they don't deserve it, but the Storm probably has one of the more advantageous markets in the WNBA.
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bigblu89
07/24/22 2:45:56 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Is 2,000 more than 400?
Are you seriously taking a stand up routine as fact?

cmon now, youre better than that

you also have to take into account the cost of a ticket.

When its $20 to get into a WNBA game, but on average quadruple that for the NBA, one league is generating much more money than the other.

Combine that with TV money, which is based on ratings and ad revenue, its just a simple fact that the NBA has a larger pie of money to divvy up between everyone than the WNBA does.

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Dakimakura
07/24/22 2:50:27 PM
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I don't mind the WNBA but there is absolutely no chance that most Americans have enough time in their life that they can make room for it. Time wise for me it is either the NBA's elite of the elite or the WNBA. So of course I'll never watch the WNBA.

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bigblu89
07/24/22 2:51:45 PM
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Deutschenlied posted...
He's not completely wrong, but it's not right to blame it all on women.

Men shouldn't give a fuck about women's sports? Women give a fuck about men's sports. Why be sexist and say that men and women can't like each other's things? And are "men" really being punished here? I didn't know everyone with a penis was making money off US soccer. Didn't the USMNT have to sign off on this revenue split anyway?

Though no one watching women's sports is exactly why I laugh when weirdos pretend to care about them when a trans woman correctly demands to play with her fellow women.
Men like to watch people dominate their sport.

Theres a reason why Serena Williams, even when unranked, gets some of the highest ratings in all of tennis, male or female. She dominates the sport.

Theres no female out there that can dominate her male counterpart in basketball. The WNBA All Star team couldnt bean the 12 worst players in the NBA.


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Antifar
07/24/22 2:58:08 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
Men like to watch people dominate their sport.

Theres a reason why Serena Williams, even when unranked, gets some of the highest ratings in all of tennis, male or female. She dominates the sport.

Theres no female out there that can dominate her male counterpart in basketball.
This comparison doesn't work; Serena is every bit as overmatched by men as WNBA players.

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BlueBoy675
07/24/22 2:59:31 PM
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Are people getting overly upset about jokes again

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Gobstoppers12
07/24/22 3:09:38 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
Are people getting overly upset about jokes again
Is it 2022?

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Deutschenlied
07/25/22 8:02:34 AM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
Are people getting overly upset about jokes again
I feel bad for the sense of humor some people have. They'll laugh at anything said by a comedian, maybe at the prompt of a laugh track, because they heard jokes are funny and should be laughed at. The joke could be lame, stupid, or offensive, but god damn we'll laugh at it! All jokes are hilarious.

Women's sports, like any female-led entertainment haven't failed because women don't put their money where their mouth is. They fail because they are given nowhere near the exposure of men's sports or male-led movies/video games/etc. If the WNBA isn't as big as the NBA despite glaring differences, people, especially the rich and powerful, declare "Welp no one wants to watch women do things! It's boring!"
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DipDipDiver
07/25/22 8:09:31 AM
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People watch what they want to watch. The reason these leagues are subsidized is because it's important for those spaces to exist regardless of the level of public support they receive. I don't think it's something anyone needs to be blamed for
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VigorouslySwish
07/25/22 8:11:15 AM
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Bill Burr nails every hot topic he touches, the dude is a comic genius

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VigorouslySwish
07/25/22 8:12:04 AM
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It all began with shitting all over Philadelphia....


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VigorouslySwish
07/25/22 8:15:58 AM
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I mean he stated STRAIGHT. UP. FACTS.

How can anyone get mad at that?

He's not an asshole, he's hilariously telling the truth


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VigorouslySwish
07/25/22 8:18:39 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
I actually watched that special last night, started out so so and then got better and better

Typical Burr, he always starts off slow and then has you dying by the end


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VigorouslySwish
07/25/22 8:24:28 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
Theres no female out there that can dominate her male counterpart in basketball. The WNBA All Star team couldnt bean the 12 worst players in the NBA.

It's true, and it's not a mean thing to say. It's just biology. There is no competition in these kind of sports between the genders.

Tennis, on the other hand, has a ton of female players than can hold their own in the top ranks.

It's all about the top ranks, if the sport is something women can make it in, then we will all watch them. If not, the women's league is just a side story.

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AmericaTheBrave
07/25/22 8:29:23 AM
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He needs to respect women.

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Snake0736
07/25/22 8:40:39 AM
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Funny I remember my wife asked me for a Suns jersey for her birthday as we currently live in Phx and me being a big basketball fan she watches the games with me. So I asked her would she buy a WNBA jersey and her response was hell no lol. Fact is majority of women dont support women sports. Im not sure if it is a jealousy thing or what, but a man has no issue wearing another mans name on his back (jersey). As for women, I personally have never seen or known a woman to wear a WNBA jersey.

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AloneIBreak
07/25/22 8:45:52 AM
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Women's tennis is significantly more entertaining than womens basketball.

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chrono625
07/25/22 8:49:28 AM
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Snake0736 posted...
Funny I remember my wife asked me for a Suns jersey for her birthday as we currently live in Phx and me being a big basketball fan she watches the games with me. So I asked her would she buy a WNBA jersey and her response was hell no lol. Fact is majority of women dont support women sports. Im not sure if it is a jealousy thing or what, but a man has no issue wearing another mans name on his back (jersey). As for women, I personally have never seen or known a woman to wear a WNBA jersey.

a lot of women also recognize the skill difference between men and women and they would even rather watch the NBA where the elite play.

WNBA existing isnt an issue. But certain individuals need to stop complaining about the sexist wage disparity.

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Fony
07/25/22 9:08:55 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Just so I know, is that a thing?

Where women are complaining that women's sports get lower attendance and it's men's fault?

Like is it actually a thing?
Yes.

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