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YellowSUV
08/28/22 12:52:54 AM
#201:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
game gets really good from this point on. it just spirals into absolute insanity.

Sounds like the topic creator still has to go through Okumura's Palace, which is easily the worst dungeon in the game.

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spikethedevil
08/28/22 3:38:52 AM
#202:


YellowSUV posted...
Sounds like the topic creator still has to go through Okumura's Palace, which is easily the worst dungeon in the game.

Only because people for whatever reason never think to use the map when going through a certain puzzle.

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YellowSUV
08/28/22 4:12:19 AM
#203:


spikethedevil posted...
Only because people for whatever reason never think to use the map when going through a certain puzzle.

Nah, it is just the palace is too long and repetitive. I never had any issue with the puzzle at the end.

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spikethedevil
08/28/22 4:13:38 AM
#204:


YellowSUV posted...
Nah, it is just the palace is too long and repetitive. I never had any issue with the puzzle at the end.

Was a big issue on the P5 board.

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teep_
08/28/22 4:22:49 AM
#205:


My only issue with that palace was (gameplay spoilers) you have to crank up your difficulty in order to be able to defeat the boss


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YellowSUV
08/28/22 5:02:45 AM
#206:


teep_ posted...
My only issue with that palace was (gameplay spoilers) you have to crank up your difficulty in order to be able to defeat the boss

You can also beat the boss by using consumable items to target weaknesses to get insane baton pass bonuses (since non-Joker party members won't be able to naturally target all the weaknesses). However, you never need these items for any other part of the game so chances are you won't have enough for the fight since you never bother collecting them.

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coolpal23
08/28/22 5:22:26 AM
#207:


teep_ posted...
My only issue with that palace was (gameplay spoilers) you have to crank up your difficulty in order to be able to defeat the boss
No you dont, I've beaten it plenty of times on Normal/Hard in both vanilla and Royal, it's fine, literally just focus on dps


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MedeaLysistrata
08/28/22 12:45:28 PM
#209:


YellowSUV posted...
Sounds like the topic creator still has to go through Okumura's Palace, which is easily the worst dungeon in the game.
when you depower the machine arm by raising the speed, it breaks even at the lowest increase. then you get to the boss which is one huge dps check, and if you notice that the speed of the battle is basically how far/fast they were able to push the turn based fluidity mechanics without the game breaking in terms of balance absolutely brilliant

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Dragon
08/29/22 7:46:46 AM
#210:


Made it through the outer space palace. It was repetitive like @YellowSUV said but it was still easy to navigate through. I was forced to use Haru in the opening battle against her fianc and decided to bring her along with me through the palace because no one in my main party has any psy abilities. It came in handy since a lot of the demons were weak against it. There were a few annoying red aura elephant enemies but I was able to one shot them with the bless skill that Joker has.

The final room with all the doors wasn't too bad. I just ran in and out of every room and flipped every switch I could. None of the enemies respawned so it didn't take very long. When I got to the end of the room it did take me 10 minutes or so to figure out how to exit, but I made it and now I'm going to send the calling card after work tomorrow.

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Dragon
08/29/22 7:49:02 AM
#211:


teep_ posted...
There's a certain hilarious cutscene if you romance more than one person. If you don't go that route in-game, you should check out the cutscene once you beat the game
I read about that but I'm not sure I want Joker to go through that pain. It will boil down to my mood once Kasumi joins my party, but most likely I will only romance Hifumi Togo.

EDIT: Whoops, hit submit too soon.

spikethedevil posted...
Was a big issue on the P5 board.
I thought it was easy. It's mostly just flipping every switch you come across. I can't remember if I went back to turn off a switch or not.

coolpal23 posted...
No you dont, I've beaten it plenty of times on Normal/Hard in both vanilla and Royal, it's fine, literally just focus on dps
So don't use any magic skills?

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teep_
08/29/22 9:11:28 AM
#212:


You have to use magic skills to hit their weaknesses. They mean that you focus on getting the highest amount of damage possible per move. Which might be possible, but for me (and others) it wasn't feasible

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coolpal23
08/29/22 12:04:50 PM
#213:


teep_ posted...
You have to use magic skills to hit their weaknesses.
You dont even have to do that, with proper buffs/debuffs, charge, and strong physical skills, you can score crits and or kill them, it's absolutely feasible if you stop and consider the situation
Dragon posted...
So don't use any magic skills?

Either magic or physical works, you just need a decent strategy, Royal made it even easier

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Dragon
08/30/22 5:54:23 AM
#214:


Wow I do not like this fight. I was good until the bigger guys showed up. Looks like Ill have to come up with a strategy for this.

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tripleh213
08/30/22 6:03:22 AM
#215:


That's where I got stuck for a while too.

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teep_
08/30/22 6:35:13 AM
#216:


Dragon posted...
Wow I do not like this fight. I was good until the bigger guys showed up. Looks like Ill have to come up with a strategy for this.
that was my problem too

one surefire solution that involves "taking advantage" of the game mechanics: increase the difficulty to merciless. at that difficulty, all attacks, including your own, hit harder. that's how I got past the boss

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Dragon
08/30/22 5:40:53 PM
#217:


Ill try that and see how it goes.

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Dragon
08/30/22 10:53:09 PM
#218:


Okay. That did it. What a pain. I failed the first time I set the difficulty to merciless and then gave it another chance. If I had failed again I was planning on watching some YouTube videos to see other peoples setups. But luckily I didn't have to do that and I managed to defeat those giant green guys. After that, it was pretty simple. When I got to Okumura I didn't expect to beat him in one hit by Joker. I expected a bit more fight than that.

I'm guessing the scene after everyone left is going to result in some sad news for Haru. I like Haru. I enjoyed using her in this dungeon, but It's time I go back to my boy Ryuji.

I've just been focusing on ranking up my Confidants. I got Chihaya and Kawakami up to rank 8 and learned the names of the people harassing them, and took a dive into Mementos to defeat them. While I was in there I attempted to take care of that arcade cheater guy, but I couldn't defeat him and got sent out. I then went to the other arcade in the city and found this little kid nicknamed King who gave me some tips, and now I have the Tower persona.

Also got Yusuke up to ranks. Need to get him to rank 7. I'd love to be able to duplicate high level skill cards. What's a good way to get those high skill cards? I don't think I have any yet.

I believe I also maxed out Maruki but I'm not completely sure. I got him to rank 9 and he said there's going to be no more visits. Do I still have one more rank for him, or am I done with him? I checked the guide and it just says "story progression".

I also can't seem to find Akechi. Online it said to find him by the darts&billiards lounge, but he's not there. Is he in hiding? I'm in the beginning of October. I only have him at rank 2 or 3 so I'd like him to get a bit higher.

I keep running into Mashima and I always forget he exists. Is there any point of ranking him up?

Before taking a break I was about to meet up with Kasumi, but we entered a palace. I needed to take a break to study but I'm going to play more tonight. I'm excited to see what happens next.

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teep_
08/31/22 12:02:23 AM
#219:


Dragon posted...
Do I still have one more rank for him, or am I done with him? I checked the guide and it just says "story progression".
Yeah, iirc the rank up will happen by itself during the course of the story


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Kircheis
08/31/22 12:15:08 AM
#220:


Dragon posted...
I keep running into Mashima and I always forget he exists. Is there any point of ranking him up?

Mishima, isn't that the one that increases the exp gained by benched party members? That one's pretty useful if you like to rotate your party. One of my favorite things about his confidant scenes is he'll always rank up every time you visit, so you can absolutely take the piss out of him whenever he says something stupid with no repercussions.

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ziggawatts
08/31/22 1:52:21 AM
#221:


Dragon posted...
I've just been focusing on ranking up my Confidants. I got Chihaya and Kawakami up to rank 8

Good. The new reading (celestial/fusion alarm) you got from Chihaya is fantastic for maxing out personas. You could still do it without, but getting alarms faster is better.
Go around instakilling things until a fusion alarm triggers, then teleport back to the start for the velvet room. Use the gallows to sacrifice a persona to another for an xp boost, then fuse 2 other personas, then gallows the newly fused persona (which should have a yellow name) to cause an accident and gain +10 stats to the target persona. If you want to risk it, you can usually get away with another gallows after the fusion before the forced accident for some extra xp.
Gallows normal (xp), fusion, gallows normal (xp), gallows the result of the fusion (+10 stat).
Using the gallows during an alarm doesn't count against the normal once a day limit, so you can cap a persona in a single day at mementos or a palace just by repeatedly triggering fusion alarms and using the gallows.

As for getting higher level skill cards, try using the electric chair during fusion alarms. It bumps the potential result up a level, like bufu->mabufu->bufula->mabufula->bufudyne->mabufudyne.
It's been a while, but I think there is an option when viewing the compendium that will show what the normal result from electric chair will be? So do that to figure out which give skills
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spikethedevil
08/31/22 3:10:45 AM
#222:


You need Akechi higher for the true ending he usually around that area a couple of days a week.

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Dragon
09/01/22 1:24:43 AM
#223:


Just focusing on advancing the story and ranking up as many confidants as possible. My main focus is Akechi but I'm also focusing on Futaba and Mishima. It sucks that Akechi is only available on certain nights, but is it true after rank 6 he opens up more?

I made it to the Destinyland celebration and it was cute seeing Ryuji in bear ears but holy shit that was a brutal death for Okumura. Seeing his blood shot eyes was pretty fucked up.

Now everyone is beginning to doubt the Phantom Thieves and my ranking percentage is going down, but I got two new Mementos requests which I can do after the exams when Haru join my team again.

I also got my next mission and holy shit, my final target is going to be Sae Niijima herself. I can't wait to see how that goes.

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Dragon
09/01/22 1:30:33 AM
#224:


teep_ posted...
Yeah, iirc the rank up will happen by itself during the course of the story
Okay good. Do you happen to know the day? Or is it just random?

Kircheis posted...
Mishima, isn't that the one that increases the exp gained by benched party members? That one's pretty useful if you like to rotate your party. One of my favorite things about his confidant scenes is he'll always rank up every time you visit, so you can absolutely take the piss out of him whenever he says something stupid with no repercussions.
Yeah that's him and I did not know that. And thanks for the recommendation because I always forget this guy exists so I don't really care what responses I give him.

ziggawatts posted...
As for getting higher level skill cards, try using the electric chair during fusion alarms.
Thanks. Thanks for that great advice about fusing Persona's. I really need to do that. I need to start doing the requests for the jailer twins as well. I always brush them off. And I think I'm going to start doing that for the cards because I'm working on Yusuke who can now duplicate cards he has done before, I just need to get him to the rank where he can duplicate high level magic cards.

spikethedevil posted...
You need Akechi higher for the true ending he usually around that area a couple of days a week.
I'm getting closer and closer to November. Is there anything else I need to do in order to get the true ending? I don't want to accidentally spoil myself so I haven't searched. I have Maruki at rank 9 and working on Akechi to rank 8.

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teep_
09/01/22 1:34:20 AM
#225:


Dragon posted...
Do you happen to know the day?
It's definitely in November. Possibly the 11th or the 19th but don't quote me on either

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spikethedevil
09/01/22 3:25:24 AM
#226:


Dragon posted...
Okay good. Do you happen to know the day? Or is it just random?

Yeah that's him and I did not know that. And thanks for the recommendation because I always forget this guy exists so I don't really care what responses I give him.

Thanks. Thanks for that great advice about fusing Persona's. I really need to do that. I need to start doing the requests for the jailer twins as well. I always brush them off. And I think I'm going to start doing that for the cards because I'm working on Yusuke who can now duplicate cards he has done before, I just need to get him to the rank where he can duplicate high level magic cards.

I'm getting closer and closer to November. Is there anything else I need to do in order to get the true ending? I don't want to accidentally spoil myself so I haven't searched. I have Maruki at rank 9 and working on Akechi to rank 8.

Kasumi rank 5 and youre good to go.


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tripleh213
09/01/22 4:00:34 AM
#227:


Plus the other guy

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spikethedevil
09/01/22 7:50:07 AM
#228:


tripleh213 posted...
Plus the other guy

Who? Hes got Akechi and Maruka where he needs them @tripleh213

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tripleh213
09/01/22 8:17:42 AM
#229:


spikethedevil posted...
Who? Hes got Akechi and Maruka where he needs them @tripleh213
Nm that is the other guy

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Dragon
09/02/22 7:23:45 AM
#230:


I pretty much no lifed it on my day off today and got to the end of Sae's palace.

The downside is I don't think I'll have much time to play this weekend, but I plan to at least send the calling card and defeat the boss.

I enjoyed the palace. The first half where you have to get the 10,000 coins was a lot more difficult than the second half. There were so many, many battles and I had to keep using potions to restore my SP little by little. But luckily I managed to get to level 54 and I upgraded my Faith persona.

I also had to go back and forth between using Ryuji and Haru. And I'm going to finish the palace using Akechi because I like his skills. Before sending the calling card I went to the paintball shop and bought some upgraded gear for him.

While I did enjoy the story leading up to the palace, I didn't like how much time was wasted where I wasn't able to leave. And I had to lose four days due to the exams. I need to rank up my confidants before It's too late.

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Dragon
09/02/22 7:25:47 AM
#231:


teep_ posted...
It's definitely in November. Possibly the 11th or the 19th but don't quote me on either
I made it to November 2nd so far. The date is coming up.

spikethedevil posted...
Kasumi rank 5 and youre good to go.
I got her to rank 5 early on. She was the first person I maxed out.

spikethedevil posted...
Who? Hes got Akechi and Maruka where he needs them
Haven't got Akechi to max rank yet, but he's at rank 6 now. He was hanging out in Leblanc's randomly and we went to the bath house. I'm at November 2nd so I don't believe I'll have any trouble getting him to max rank.


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spikethedevil
09/02/22 7:27:40 AM
#232:


You need him at 8 before the 24th, 9 and 10 are automatic.

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Dragon
09/03/22 7:22:40 AM
#233:


spikethedevil posted...
You need him at 8 before the 24th, 9 and 10 are automatic.
Thanks. I was able to get it tonight. I didnt know you save the boss fight until the 18th which was kind of cool. I played a few days. I got the Sun confidant guy to rank 8. I may be able to get him to rank 9 but he told me hes leaving in the middle of November. I dont know if Ill be able to max him out. Also got Ann to max rank. I didnt know their persona evolved like that. I need to get Ryuji up a rank so his evolves as well.

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ziggawatts
09/03/22 4:52:56 PM
#234:


One way to alleviate sp problems, at least for joker, is to create a persona specifically for sp restoration.
The best way to do that is to trigger a fusion alarm. Then fuse a persona, then use that gold named persona in a fusion to force an accident. Fusion accidents done this way create a persona with a preset combination of skills, randomly? chosen from a bunch of presets. One of those is invigorate 1,2,3 (3/5/7 sp per turn) heating up (+10 sp and some hp per turn if you ambushed the enemy), life aid (+sp and hp after battle) and spirit drain. It may take a lot of tries because there over a dozen presets, but most of them have some use anyway.
Some of the other presets are the dyne, madyne, break, boost, Amp, absorb of a single element + concentrate. Like bufudyne, mabufudyne, break ice, ice boost, ice Amp, absorb ice, concentrate.
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Lairen
09/03/22 4:53:44 PM
#235:


Theres so much talking that ill never play this game. My copy will stay sealed forever.

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teep_
09/03/22 4:55:14 PM
#236:


I used the charms I bought from Tae and never had SP problems

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Dragon
09/05/22 5:59:04 AM
#237:


ziggawatts posted...
One way to alleviate sp problems, at least for joker, is to create a persona specifically for sp restoration.
The best way to do that is to trigger a fusion alarm. Then fuse a persona, then use that gold named persona in a fusion to force an accident. Fusion accidents done this way create a persona with a preset combination of skills, randomly? chosen from a bunch of presets. One of those is invigorate 1,2,3 (3/5/7 sp per turn) heating up (+10 sp and some hp per turn if you ambushed the enemy), life aid (+sp and hp after battle) and spirit drain. It may take a lot of tries because there over a dozen presets, but most of them have some use anyway.
Some of the other presets are the dyne, madyne, break, boost, Amp, absorb of a single element + concentrate. Like bufudyne, mabufudyne, break ice, ice boost, ice Amp, absorb ice, concentrate.
That sounds like a lot of work. But something definitely to consider for new game+. Id love to buy the game again on the Switch when it comes out but I dont think I can transfer saves.

Lairen posted...
Theres so much talking that ill never play this game. My copy will stay sealed forever.
There is a lot of talking but its not bad at all when you like the characters.

teep_ posted...
I used the charms I bought from Tae and never had SP problems
I got her to rank 9 so I probably have them. Dont think I ever used them though.

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mehmeh1
09/05/22 9:53:36 AM
#238:


Dragon posted...
I got her to rank 9 so I probably have them. Dont think I ever used them though.
They're equippables that restore your SP every turn

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Dragon
09/06/22 5:38:30 AM
#239:


I got Sun confidant to rank 9 on 11/13. Oh well.

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Dragon
09/06/22 9:16:21 PM
#240:


Made it to 11/21. That was terrifying as fuck. I thought I messed up until I saw Ryujis smile. I should have known from the beginning that Akechi would betray us. I loved how the drugs tied in to the missing memories.

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Dragon
09/07/22 1:38:33 AM
#241:


Is it better to go into Shidos palace straight away, or should I max more relationships first?

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YellowSUV
09/07/22 2:41:01 AM
#242:


Dragon posted...
Is it better to go into Shidos palace straight away, or should I max more relationships first?

It doesn't matter, do it at whatever pace you desire.

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spikethedevil
09/07/22 3:41:29 AM
#243:


Dragon posted...
Made it to 11/21. That was terrifying as fuck. I thought I messed up until I saw Ryujis smile. I should have known from the beginning that Akechi would betray us. I loved how the drugs tied in to the missing memories.


Pancakes.

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Kloe_Rinz
09/07/22 3:44:01 AM
#244:


Taes accessories just break the game IMO. They eliminate SP issues for the most part and I was using them even in the final palaces in the game.
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mehmeh1
09/07/22 8:16:10 AM
#245:


Ngl I love how even the PTs figured out Akechi so the real twist was that they knew all along and planned against him

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Dragon
09/08/22 12:35:56 AM
#246:


I have Covid. Not sure when Ill get to play next.

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teep_
09/08/22 1:31:27 AM
#247:


Feel better soon TC

We'll try to keep this bumped for you

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spikethedevil
09/08/22 3:35:04 AM
#248:


teep_ posted...
Feel better soon TC

We'll try to keep this bumped for you

This.

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Dragon
09/09/22 4:44:07 AM
#249:


teep_ posted...
Feel better soon TC

We'll try to keep this bumped for you

spikethedevil posted...
This.
Thanks! Thanks to you both, I really appreciate that. I tested negative twice but I know I have it because my sister tested positive last week and we have the exact same symptoms, only mine were worse, which is odd because I'm boosted and she only has the second dose. After doing nothing but sleeping on and off for 30 hours I'm doing a lot better. I was able to eat some grapes and oatmeal then I took a shower and felt well enough to sit up. I do have some work that needs to be done but I can save that over the weekend when I'm feeling better.

I've never gone on a cruise ship before, but this place was huge! It started with Joker and everyone needing to get five different parchments from five separate people and with those parchments you use them to unlock the main room. Only each person was in a different area of the cruise ship. Luckily this area was somewhat linear so you just advanced to the next area after defeating the shadow. The interactions were cute, especially Futaba when she whipped out her laptop and started showing off her skills. It was also nice seeing how each of these five shadows connected to the story in some way, giving the story some extra closure.

The mice part was annoying at first, but it ended up not being too bad after I knew what I was doing. I mainly tried to defeat all the shadows in an area before turning into a mouse so I wouldn't have to deal with running away from them. The cheese items were a nice touch, both making fun of mice and their love of cheese and giving me the SP boost I desperately needed. I had to restore my SP a few times because of how many shadows I got into battle with.

The ending took me by surprise. I'm a bit conflicted on how I feel about Akechi. I don't know whether to dislike him or feel sorry for him. But I will say his alter persona was pretty badass looking and I much prefer that look on him than his red/white one.

I still think the pyramid palace is the best one, but the cruise ship one is maybe top 3. More aquatic looking shadows would have been nice. There was one dark manta ray looking shadow but that was it.

I'm about to leave the palace. Instead of leaving straight away I decided to explore some more so that I could save. There's a heat wave in my area and I was worried the entire time that my power would go out while playing.

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spikethedevil
09/09/22 4:54:32 AM
#250:


Cruise ship is great but the mouse section is the most annoying section in the game that goes on way too long imo.

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teep_
09/09/22 6:09:51 AM
#251:


The palace after the cruise ship has my favourite palace music of the game

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