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Mackorov 07/02/22 10:36:12 AM #1:	like holy hell. Apart from Thanos, every single MCU villain dies or gets defeated immediately in the very same movie they are first introduced. And during the so-called 'climax' battle, well, there's never any damn climax to begin with. MCU heroes are always just too overpowered or have 2-3 allies with them to jump in ever so conveniently to help them save the day. I kid you not. Every single MCU movie I watched has me wanting to exit the cinema or go to sleep at the final moments of the movie. EVERY single movie follows the exact same stupid predictable plot structure. The most recent two movies I watched were Batman and Doctor Strange MoM. Needless to say, the difference is so stark. One movie actually had a completely unpredictable ending and actually, ~~a villain win~~. The other... was merely yet another stupid cashgrab by Marvel relying once more on their celebrity stardom power and branding more than any kind of quality writing. How do people continue to keep watching Disney's rubbish shit-tier movies? <cite>Mackorov posted [p:966280692] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>like holy hell. Apart from Thanos, every single MCU villain dies or gets defeated immediately in the very same movie they are first introduced. And during the so-called 'climax' battle, well, there's never any damn climax to begin with. MCU heroes are always just too overpowered or have 2-3 allies with them to jump in ever so conveniently to help them save the day. I kid you not. Every single MCU movie I watched has me wanting to exit the cinema or go to sleep at the final moments of the movie. EVERY single movie follows the exact same stupid predictable plot structure. The most recent two movies I watched were Batman and Doctor Strange MoM. Needless to say, the difference is so stark. One movie actually had a completely unpredictable ending and actually, a villain win. The other... was merely yet another stupid cashgrab by Marvel relying once more on their celebrity stardom power and branding more than any kind of quality writing. How do people continue to keep watching Disney's rubbish shit-tier movies? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 07/02/22 10:39:11 AM #2:	Only real way to have recurring villains is to put them in the background like Thanos, make them incompetent, or make them into anti-heroes like Loki. I guess with Multiverse shenanigans, they can now make more copies of the same character if needed. <cite>Nemu posted [p:966280735] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Only real way to have recurring villains is to put them in the background like Thanos, make them incompetent, or make them into anti-heroes like Loki. I guess with Multiverse shenanigans, they can now make more copies of the same character if needed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/02/22 10:41:19 AM #3:	If your assertion is that ~~the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker~~ wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:966280769] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>If your assertion is that the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 07/02/22 10:41:36 AM #4:	>Marvel comics >quality writing pick one --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:966280772] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>>Marvel comics >quality writing pick one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 07/02/22 10:41:49 AM #5:	Nemu posted... Only real way to have recurring villains is to put them in the background like Thanos, make them incompetent, or make them into anti-heroes like Loki. I guess with Multiverse shenanigans, they can now make more copies of the same character if needed. Yknow what makes the Batman movies like Nolan's so great? Even though Nolan's villains do get defeated in the end, they pose such a menacing threat, you cant help but second-guess what the ending will truly be like, or more like to say... the dire consequences. With MCU movies, we never freaking see that at all. Villains are just squabbled down into comedic caricatures of their comic versions while only serving as stepping stones to further overpower the heroes themselves. Now toss in some new celebrity to be cameo feature to promote the next sequel and boom, that's all they need to draw in people .What a joke to cinema MCU movies are. The only reason to watch their films is when your girlfriend or family members drag you to see them. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:966280775] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted... </cite> <quote>Only real way to have recurring villains is to put them in the background like Thanos, make them incompetent, or make them into anti-heroes like Loki. I guess with Multiverse shenanigans, they can now make more copies of the same character if needed.</quote> Yknow what makes the Batman movies like Nolan's so great? Even though Nolan's villains do get defeated in the end, they pose such a menacing threat, you cant help but second-guess what the ending will truly be like, or more like to say... the dire consequences. With MCU movies, we never freaking see that at all. Villains are just squabbled down into comedic caricatures of their comic versions while only serving as stepping stones to further overpower the heroes themselves. Now toss in some new celebrity to be cameo feature to promote the next sequel and boom, that's all they need to draw in people .What a joke to cinema MCU movies are. The only reason to watch their films is when your girlfriend or family members drag you to see them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 07/02/22 10:42:47 AM #6:	meralonne posted... If your assertion is that ~~the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker~~ wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you. Seems clear he's talking about Riddler ~~successfully destroying Gotham's infrastructure and shooting the candidate for mayor.~~ --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:966280785] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>If your assertion is that the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you.</quote>Seems clear he's talking about Riddler successfully destroying Gotham's infrastructure and shooting the candidate for mayor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 07/02/22 10:44:24 AM #7:	meralonne posted... If your assertion is that ~~the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker~~ wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you. no, my assertion is on the Joker's whole story being played out very unlike what anyone imagined. No one would have expected ~~the flood checkmate plan~~ and even better, I bet almost NO ONE expected Batman would ~~actually fail to save the city in time.~~ When I got to the ~~flood scene~~, the only thought going through my head was, "How is ONE guy, completely powerless, like Batman... supposed to save everyone?" It's just so f*ing brilliant. He failed but still emerged with a shining beacon in hand. People are too used to stupid Marvel poop-tier writing where superheroes always magically get deus ex machina victories. What the hell is so fun about that? Probably the same people watching Sword Art Online and thinking it's some quality writing right there <cite>Mackorov posted [p:966280819] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>If your assertion is that the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you.</quote>no, my assertion is on the Joker's whole story being played out very unlike what anyone imagined. No one would have expected the flood checkmate plan and even better, I bet almost NO ONE expected Batman would actually fail to save the city in time. When I got to the flood scene, the only thought going through my head was, "How is ONE guy, completely powerless, like Batman... supposed to save everyone?" It's just so f*ing brilliant. He failed but still emerged with a shining beacon in hand. People are too used to stupid Marvel poop-tier writing where superheroes always magically get deus ex machina victories. What the hell is so fun about that? Probably the same people watching Sword Art Online and thinking it's some quality writing right there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/02/22 10:44:26 AM #8:	Dude if all you want is for the villain to win, just tune into real life. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:966280820] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Dude if all you want is for the villain to win, just tune into real life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/02/22 10:45:07 AM #9:	Nemu posted... Only real way to have recurring villains is to put them in the background like Thanos, make them incompetent, or make them into anti-heroes like Loki. I guess with Multiverse shenanigans, they can now make more copies of the same character if needed. Or.... You know.... Just not have the heroes kill the villains? And Harry Potter is basically WBs most profitable movie franchise so you can't really say "but people just don't want to see Spider-Man vs Green Goblin seven times" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:966280831] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted... </cite> <quote>Only real way to have recurring villains is to put them in the background like Thanos, make them incompetent, or make them into anti-heroes like Loki. I guess with Multiverse shenanigans, they can now make more copies of the same character if needed.</quote> Or.... You know.... Just not have the heroes kill the villains? And Harry Potter is basically WBs most profitable movie franchise so you can't really say "but people just don't want to see Spider-Man vs Green Goblin seven times" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 07/02/22 10:46:18 AM #10:	MCU, DCU... It's all cape shit, as the enlightened centrist would say. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:966280853] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>MCU, DCU... It's all cape shit, as the enlightened centrist would say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 07/02/22 10:48:03 AM #11:	CyricZ posted... Dude if all you want is for the villain to win, just tune into real life. not win. a villain is spposed to pose a threat. learn the diff. The only MCU movie that got close to that was the Incredible Hulk movie. That was before Disney swooped in and turned every Marvel movie thereafter into their trademark happy-ending predictable family nonsense <cite>Mackorov posted [p:966280872] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Dude if all you want is for the villain to win, just tune into real life.</quote> not win. a villain is spposed to pose a threat. learn the diff. The only MCU movie that got close to that was the Incredible Hulk movie. That was before Disney swooped in and turned every Marvel movie thereafter into their trademark happy-ending predictable family nonsense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 07/02/22 10:48:32 AM #12:	Don't take it too seriously. I do understand you though. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:966280880] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Don't take it too seriously. I do understand you though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 07/02/22 10:48:51 AM #13:	meralonne posted... If your assertion is that ~~the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker~~ wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you. That's not spoilers because it didn't happen? --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:966280883] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>If your assertion is that the Riddler ending up in Arkham and having a chat with Joker wasnt predictable as fuck, then Im not sure what to tell you.</quote> That's not spoilers because it didn't happen? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/02/22 10:50:25 AM #14:	Mackorov posted... a villain is spposed to pose a threat. learn the diff. What should a villain do before you consider them a threat? --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:966280909] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Mackorov posted... </cite> <quote>a villain is spposed to pose a threat. learn the diff.</quote>What should a villain do before you consider them a threat? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 07/02/22 10:51:26 AM #15:	Tyranthraxus posted... Or.... You know.... Just not have the heroes kill the villains? And Harry Potter is basically WBs most profitable movie franchise so you can't really say "but people just don't want to see Spider-Man vs Green Goblin seven times" If the villain can be incapacitated without being killed and keeps reappearing without any character growth, that usually leads to a weak, incompetent villain. Only real way to pull off a quick return is to have them do the villain team up trope afterwards. That's why most comic stories feel silly when these characters keep escaping, getting revived, etc, only to quickly be defeated again later on. <cite>Nemu posted [p:966280931] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Or.... You know.... Just not have the heroes kill the villains? And Harry Potter is basically WBs most profitable movie franchise so you can't really say "but people just don't want to see Spider-Man vs Green Goblin seven times"</quote>If the villain can be incapacitated without being killed and keeps reappearing without any character growth, that usually leads to a weak, incompetent villain. Only real way to pull off a quick return is to have them do the villain team up trope afterwards. That's why most comic stories feel silly when these characters keep escaping, getting revived, etc, only to quickly be defeated again later on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 07/02/22 10:57:29 AM #17:	Jagr_68 posted... >Marvel comics >quality writing pick one --- Crown of creation, creation of shame. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:966281029] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>>Marvel comics >quality writing pick one</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/02/22 11:01:12 AM #18:	Tyranthraxus posted... And Harry Potter is basically WBs most profitable movie franchise so you can't really say "but people just don't want to see Spider-Man vs Green Goblin seven times" But we don't really see "Harry Potter vs Voldemort" seven times though. Voldemort is the overarching threat of the entire series, but most of the movies don't have him as the most immediate threat. Usually, Harry and gang are fighting against one of his lackeys. That's not really much different from how the MCU does things, where you'll have villains for specific movies, but then you'll have long-term Big Bads like Thanos or soon to be Kang --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:966281090] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>And Harry Potter is basically WBs most profitable movie franchise so you can't really say "but people just don't want to see Spider-Man vs Green Goblin seven times"</quote> But we don't really see "Harry Potter vs Voldemort" seven times though. Voldemort is the overarching threat of the entire series, but most of the movies don't have him as the most immediate threat. Usually, Harry and gang are fighting against one of his lackeys. That's not really much different from how the MCU does things, where you'll have villains for specific movies, but then you'll have long-term Big Bads like Thanos or soon to be Kang </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/02/22 11:04:44 AM #19:	I feel something similar. I want more long term villains that are constantly appearing and building up. I do find the ending third act formula extremely stale at this point. I thought that was Kang for Phase 4, but there's been barely anything so far. Doom and Magneto being another 2 I'm expecting. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:966281139] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>I feel something similar. I want more long term villains that are constantly appearing and building up. I do find the ending third act formula extremely stale at this point. I thought that was Kang for Phase 4, but there's been barely anything so far. Doom and Magneto being another 2 I'm expecting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 07/02/22 11:06:51 AM #20:	You realize you can just choose to not watch these movies, right? --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:966281171] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>You realize you can just choose to not watch these movies, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/02/22 11:08:45 AM #21:	Nemu posted... If the villain can be incapacitated without being killed and keeps reappearing without any character growth, that usually leads to a weak, incompetent villain. Only real way to pull off a quick return is to have them do the villain team up trope afterwards. That's why most comic stories feel silly when these characters keep escaping, getting revived, etc, only to quickly be defeated again later on. Yeah, the thing with comics (especially earlier comics and ones that have had long runs) is that they want people to be able to pick a random book off the shelf and still be able to follow along. That's why villains escape so much and even in the instances where they die, if they're popular enough they just end up resurrecting them within 5 years. Movie series, on the other hand, aren't so serialized. They're not trying to avoid the issue of alienating people because they might potentially have to read tons of back issues to understand wtf is going on. You might just have to watch 1 or 2 2 hour long movies to prepare for a sequel. They're okay with killing villains off. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:966281211] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted... </cite> <quote>If the villain can be incapacitated without being killed and keeps reappearing without any character growth, that usually leads to a weak, incompetent villain. Only real way to pull off a quick return is to have them do the villain team up trope afterwards. That's why most comic stories feel silly when these characters keep escaping, getting revived, etc, only to quickly be defeated again later on.</quote> Yeah, the thing with comics (especially earlier comics and ones that have had long runs) is that they want people to be able to pick a random book off the shelf and still be able to follow along. That's why villains escape so much and even in the instances where they die, if they're popular enough they just end up resurrecting them within 5 years. Movie series, on the other hand, aren't so serialized. They're not trying to avoid the issue of alienating people because they might potentially have to read tons of back issues to understand wtf is going on. You might just have to watch 1 or 2 2 hour long movies to prepare for a sequel. They're okay with killing villains off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 07/02/22 11:12:23 AM #22:	Well to be fair killing off a villain doesn't have to be permanent. They just don't bring them back too often for whatever reason. If someone like say Mr. Sinister dies in his movie debut, he can easily return if the writers wanted him back. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:966281278] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Well to be fair killing off a villain doesn't have to be permanent. They just don't bring them back too often for whatever reason. If someone like say Mr. Sinister dies in his movie debut, he can easily return if the writers wanted him back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/02/22 11:25:46 AM #23:	itachi15243 posted... That's not spoilers because it didn't happen? Did you not see the same Pattinson Batman film that I saw? --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:966281529] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>That's not spoilers because it didn't happen?</quote>Did you not see the same Pattinson Batman film that I saw? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 07/02/22 12:07:04 PM #24:	Mackorov posted... With MCU movies, we never freaking see that at all. Villains are just squabbled down into comedic caricatures of their comic versions while only serving as stepping stones to further overpower the heroes themselves. Why are you talking like youve ever read a Marvel comic book in your life? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:966282299] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Mackorov posted... </cite> <quote>With MCU movies, we never freaking see that at all. Villains are just squabbled down into comedic caricatures of their comic versions while only serving as stepping stones to further overpower the heroes themselves.</quote> Why are you talking like youve ever read a Marvel comic book in your life? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/02/22 12:13:57 PM #25:	Mackorov posted... No one would have expected ~~the flood checkmate plan~~ Something like this has happened in every Batman movie ever made though lol some extreme city destroying act pulled from the villains back pocket. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:966282475] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Mackorov posted... </cite> <quote>No one would have expected the flood checkmate plan</quote> Something like this has happened in every Batman movie ever made though lol some extreme city destroying act pulled from the villains back pocket. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/02/22 12:49:31 PM #26:	So, the MCU really isn't the place to have the villain win. It will just lead to a sequel where the villain loses, no? It was a good idea to sorta save this concept until ~~Endgame~~. Otherwise, sometimes the movie shows a villain who actually does win in the beginning, but their ultimate fate of losing to a hero is also shown in the same feature, instead of stretching the story out over two films. Other times, the real villain only starts to reveal themselves at the half way mark, as the hero is busy with another fight, and by the end we are shown that a bigger bad guy has risen to power just under our noses. Then, you got stuff like ~~Civil War~~ where the villains are ambiguous or by losing the main villain still wins because that was his plan. There's cases where winning against the villain still feels like a net loss. Sometimes the heroes becomes the villains in these movies, or you can argue that they do win... Like in ~~The Eternals, where the heroes are captured by the main villain at the end of the movie~~. Or, like in ~~No Way Home~~ where ~~Peter's life is 100% ruined by the forces he fights in that movie~~ and these are recent films, so you can see they are evolving. It has a good variety of villains. Good thread <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:966283131] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>So, the MCU really isn't the place to have the villain win. It will just lead to a sequel where the villain loses, no? It was a good idea to sorta save this concept until Endgame. Otherwise, sometimes the movie shows a villain who actually does win in the beginning, but their ultimate fate of losing to a hero is also shown in the same feature, instead of stretching the story out over two films. Other times, the real villain only starts to reveal themselves at the half way mark, as the hero is busy with another fight, and by the end we are shown that a bigger bad guy has risen to power just under our noses. Then, you got stuff like Civil War where the villains are ambiguous or by losing the main villain still wins because that was his plan. There's cases where winning against the villain still feels like a net loss. Sometimes the heroes becomes the villains in these movies, or you can argue that they do win... Like in The Eternals, where the heroes are captured by the main villain at the end of the movie. Or, like in No Way Home where Peter's life is 100% ruined by the forces he fights in that movie and these are recent films, so you can see they are evolving. It has a good variety of villains. Good thread </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingJester 07/02/22 12:50:20 PM #27:	a "good" Doom would be nice. --- Perhaps the world is not made. Perhaps nothing is made. A clock without a craftsman. It's too late. Always has been. Always will be. Too late <cite>FightingJester posted [p:966283151] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote> a "good" Doom would be nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/02/22 12:52:52 PM #28:	What if the MCU were a great place for the villain to win? What if this will lead to a sequel where the villain wins again? <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:966283199] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>What if the MCU were a great place for the villain to win? What if this will lead to a sequel where the villain wins again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 07/02/22 12:53:04 PM #29:	the villain won in civil war btw --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:966283205] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>the villain won in civil war btw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/02/22 12:55:34 PM #30:	That's what I said <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:966283248] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>That's what I said </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Srk700 07/02/22 12:59:09 PM #31:	Only a matter of time before we get Dr. Doom with his defeats just being revealed that it was a Doombot that was defeated. <cite>Srk700 posted [p:966283307] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Only a matter of time before we get Dr. Doom with his defeats just being revealed that it was a Doombot that was defeated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 07/02/22 1:00:48 PM #32:	Black Panther --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:966283338] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Black Panther </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/02/22 1:02:34 PM #33:	Fantastic Four has a bad rep Introducing ~~Reed~~ like that in MoM was interesting. They'd made great X-Men characters. If the MCU kicks out a good FFour film, I will be impressed. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:966283369] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Fantastic Four has a bad rep Introducing Reed like that in MoM was interesting. They'd made great X-Men characters. If the MCU kicks out a good FFour film, I will be impressed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 07/02/22 1:06:57 PM #34:	The issue with serial threat escalation scaling. >_> If your series has this issue, you absolutely need to make the stakes significantly more personal from a character perspective. Otherwise it's just bigger explosions, harder punches, and more spectacle with no real substance. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:966283432] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>The issue with serial threat escalation scaling. >_> If your series has this issue, you absolutely need to make the stakes significantly more personal from a character perspective. Otherwise it's just bigger explosions, harder punches, and more spectacle with no real substance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 07/02/22 1:07:02 PM #35:	It's always been a serious problem in marvel movies honestly. With no recurring supervillians what is even the point of active superhero/team community? The villains also generally are really bad. Eith the hero barely interacting with the antagonist outside of combat. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:966283436] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>It's always been a serious problem in marvel movies honestly. With no recurring supervillians what is even the point of active superhero/team community? The villains also generally are really bad. Eith the hero barely interacting with the antagonist outside of combat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/02/22 1:10:01 PM #36:	Morbius <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:966283486] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Morbius </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/02/22 1:10:44 PM #37:	This happens because they get big names for villains and the actors are apprehensive about signing any long contracts with recurring roles, and also cost a shit ton. So it's better to just kill them off in a single movie. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:966283504] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>This happens because they get big names for villains and the actors are apprehensive about signing any long contracts with recurring roles, and also cost a shit ton. So it's better to just kill them off in a single movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/02/22 1:52:44 PM #38:	AsucaHayashi posted... the villain won in civil war btw The villain in Black Panther convinced the hero to change his world view as well. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:966284269] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite> <quote>the villain won in civil war btw</quote>The villain in Black Panther convinced the hero to change his world view as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 07/02/22 3:50:29 PM #39:	HornyLevel posted... This happens because they get big names for villains and the actors are apprehensive about signing any long contracts with recurring roles, and also cost a shit ton. So it's better to just kill them off in a single movie. Thats BS Any actor would KILL to have a long-term contract with Marvel movies. It'd mean a guaranteed succession of cashcow movies they can rely on. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:966286393] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite> <quote>This happens because they get big names for villains and the actors are apprehensive about signing any long contracts with recurring roles, and also cost a shit ton. So it's better to just kill them off in a single movie.</quote> Thats BS Any actor would KILL to have a long-term contract with Marvel movies. It'd mean a guaranteed succession of cashcow movies they can rely on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 07/02/22 3:52:20 PM #40:	Xethuminra posted... Fantastic Four has a bad rep Introducing ~~Reed~~ like that in MoM was interesting. They'd made great X-Men characters. If the MCU kicks out a good FFour film, I will be impressed. The MoM movie was just cameos done utterly wrong. They could afford to ~~kill off~~ those characters because they're just multi-verse versions of the superheroes. They could easily recast different or even the same actors in the next movie playing as yet another alive versions of their multiverse counterparts <cite>Mackorov posted [p:966286443] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>Fantastic Four has a bad rep Introducing Reed like that in MoM was interesting. They'd made great X-Men characters. If the MCU kicks out a good FFour film, I will be impressed.</quote>The MoM movie was just cameos done utterly wrong. They could afford to kill off those characters because they're just multi-verse versions of the superheroes. They could easily recast different or even the same actors in the next movie playing as yet another alive versions of their multiverse counterparts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchNemo 07/02/22 4:07:13 PM #41:	Mackorov posted... Thats BS Any actor would KILL to have a long-term contract with Marvel movies. It'd mean a guaranteed succession of cashcow movies they can rely on. Any young/unknown actor certainly. But an older actor or a more well known one doesn't want to potentially have to turn down projects they'd rather do on a personal level because they need to film 6 Marvel movies. --- Down with the Signess. <cite>ArchNemo posted [p:966286753] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Mackorov posted... </cite> <quote>Thats BS Any actor would KILL to have a long-term contract with Marvel movies. It'd mean a guaranteed succession of cashcow movies they can rely on.</quote> Any young/unknown actor certainly. But an older actor or a more well known one doesn't want to potentially have to turn down projects they'd rather do on a personal level because they need to film 6 Marvel movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/02/22 4:35:24 PM #42:	Mackorov posted... Thats BS Any actor would KILL to have a long-term contract with Marvel movies. It'd mean a guaranteed succession of cashcow movies they can rely on. ArchNemo posted... Any young/unknown actor certainly. But an older actor or a more well known one doesn't want to potentially have to turn down projects they'd rather do on a personal level because they need to film 6 Marvel movies. Yeah, what ArchNemo said. People in the start or middle of their careers are much more likely to stick around for that, as opposed to the likes of Cate Blanchett, Michael B Jordan, Tony Leung, Mads Mikkelsen, Christian Bale, etc. Plus, a lot of actors don't like being villains. Even Elizabeth Olsen is pretty pissed she missed out on so much because of her MCU contract and it seems like from MoM that ~~she's done. She did say she'd be down for a solo movie if it was a good script.~~ --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:966287311] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Mackorov posted... </cite> <quote>Thats BS Any actor would KILL to have a long-term contract with Marvel movies. It'd mean a guaranteed succession of cashcow movies they can rely on.</quote> ArchNemo posted... </cite> <quote>Any young/unknown actor certainly. But an older actor or a more well known one doesn't want to potentially have to turn down projects they'd rather do on a personal level because they need to film 6 Marvel movies.</quote>Yeah, what ArchNemo said. People in the start or middle of their careers are much more likely to stick around for that, as opposed to the likes of Cate Blanchett, Michael B Jordan, Tony Leung, Mads Mikkelsen, Christian Bale, etc. Plus, a lot of actors don't like being villains. Even Elizabeth Olsen is pretty pissed she missed out on so much because of her MCU contract and it seems like from MoM that she's done. She did say she'd be down for a solo movie if it was a good script. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/02/22 4:42:51 PM #43:	If its any consolation, theyre not going to one-and-done Kang the Conqueror. With the X-men and F4 on board, theyll definitely introduce Magneto and Dr Doom, neither of which is going down in one film. Lokis always down for a heel turn. Hell, even Scarlet Witch isnt necessarily dead we never saw a body. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:966287450] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>If its any consolation, theyre not going to one-and-done Kang the Conqueror. With the X-men and F4 on board, theyll definitely introduce Magneto and Dr Doom, neither of which is going down in one film. Lokis always down for a heel turn. Hell, even Scarlet Witch isnt necessarily dead we never saw a body. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/02/22 4:43:34 PM #44:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... But we don't really see "Harry Potter vs Voldemort" seven times though. Voldemort is the overarching threat of the entire series, but most of the movies don't have him as the most immediate threat. That's not really true. For books 1-3 yeah, but 4 onwards he was the immediate threat. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:966287464] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>But we don't really see "Harry Potter vs Voldemort" seven times though. Voldemort is the overarching threat of the entire series, but most of the movies don't have him as the most immediate threat.</quote>That's not really true. For books 1-3 yeah, but 4 onwards he was the immediate threat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/02/22 4:45:03 PM #45:	Smashingpmkns posted... Something like this has happened in every Batman movie ever made though lol some extreme city destroying act pulled from the villains back pocket. Have they been successful? Has it gone off perfectly, exactly according to plan? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:966287481] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Something like this has happened in every Batman movie ever made though lol some extreme city destroying act pulled from the villains back pocket.</quote>Have they been successful? Has it gone off perfectly, exactly according to plan? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 07/02/22 4:47:43 PM #47:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That wasn't him. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:966287542] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That wasn't him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/02/22 4:52:04 PM #48:	Also, we can probably tell that Adam Warlock might be recurring given they got Will Poulter, who isn't too big a name or anything. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:966287614] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Also, we can probably tell that Adam Warlock might be recurring given they got Will Poulter, who isn't too big a name or anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchNemo 07/02/22 4:56:00 PM #49:	meralonne posted... Spoilers dude god damn --- Down with the Signess. <cite>ArchNemo posted [p:966287705] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> Spoilers dude god damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burns112233 07/02/22 4:56:37 PM #50:	Damn, the villains were definitely a threat in No Way Home. Spider-Man needed a lot of help and he only won by pulling the nuclear option and losing everything. <cite>burns112233 posted [p:966287718] in Is anyone ... [t:80079736]...</cite> <quote>Damn, the villains were definitely a threat in No Way Home. Spider-Man needed a lot of help and he only won by pulling the nuclear option and losing everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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