Board 8 > Nickelodeon Mafia Topic 4- Toons all day long

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I'm wary of lynching weak players early. Feel free to look up the the dozens of cases where this has been true. Were DYL to flip town this game would look real fucking ugly at this point.

Hell I think if hes town he probably puts himself on the table just as easy yesterday. Its pretty much baseline DYL.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Ben what is your flavour?

IGCD you better have a better play in your pocket today.

I feel like this is the most Red has talked the entire game.

Kirby321 posted...

I feel like this is the most Red has talked the entire game.

reds hyped and happy to have a fucking giant screen in front of him now be happy hes invested and sit down.

red13n posted...

IGCD you better have a better play in your pocket today.

Sit down.

For the record the big screen has baseball but I also have a good size monitor for the distance I sit and I'm glad to have that too.

Kirby321 posted...

I feel like this is the most Red has talked the entire game.

feel like this is the most he's talked in the last 4 games.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sit down.

I am sitting down now don't screw this up.

Obellisk posted...

feel like this is the most he's talked in the last 4 games.

Nah I think we had that endgame where someone tried to go crazy and I threatened them with losing the game if they went against my wishes. This is a lot of me leaving incomplete thoughts and then feeling compelled to amend them.

Votals while chewing a whole pack of Zebra Gum

[2] Red- Lea, BCT
[1] Death- Ulti

Anyway now we are waiting on ben and he seems to have been gone for like an hour.

Kirby321 posted...

I feel like this is the most Red has talked the entire game.

Anyone know: Is this what he's like when he's panicking? It feels like he's throwing a lot of things out there and much of it isn't meaningful.

"He" being Red, I mean.

The fact you wasted your scan on me is ridiculous but whatever. I'm Rocco's Modern Life

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Anyone know: Is this what he's like when he's panicking? It feels like he's throwing a lot of things out there and much of it isn't meaningful.

Red doesn't panic.

Yeah this is the first time Red is at a computer because he's posting from the Red account and not Leafeon. Also I like his reactions and posts so far this day tbh.

PunishedBen posted...

The fact you wasted your scan on me is ridiculous but whatever. I'm Rocco's Modern Life

Checks out.

red13n posted...

Red doesn't panic.

he just puts in the work when necessary

Okay well that went mostly nowhere.

So I share my bit of information because you people are being dumb and I enjoy being able to coast after being hyped. I am Angry Beavers and when Han died we became angry and received a 1 use backup of doctor which I used last night to save IGCD.

The no kill came as 0 surprise to me.

Also hype for that.

Wow no reaction you all are boring.

k

Thanks Red

In all seriousness, I started to think you were town from this sudden hype burst and especially because of this post which I cant see you randomly faking. That's a play only I would do as scum

red13n posted...

And for anyone curious when DYL flipped I was like "oh hes redirector okay"(I'm a dirty skimmer we all know that) but then I got to topic and saw all of you saying bus driver and was confused. I had been assuming he was actually redirector(Target player A and force them to target player B), but then checked the flip and I'm now not even sure hes actually bus driver as I envision it because Sultan blargh.

But yes nice to know you are confirmed town too

...well then. I can't process all that right now but I can...

##Unvote

I am eager to go back and re-read with the knowledge Red is town. IIRC it makes Death more likely scum though

UltimaterializerX posted...

I actually don't buy that but I'm not going to kill uncountered protection. Not today anyway. Town backups are typically more than 1-shot.

I wasn't even informed of the backup. I thought I was just vanilla day 1 and trying to play extra cagey to draw shots/rb.

host lying to players sucks.

Thats one of those details you're probably better off not revealing just because no one is going to want to believe it, lol

I was going to but I didn't have a good gameplay reason to do so.

untargetable
doctor
mayor
lie detector
backup
hider

am I missing anything?

Obellisk posted...

am I missing anything?

flavor cop or thief or whatever

I mean, the only other explanation for the no kill is if scum forgot Lea was Invisible. And if Red is on the scum team, no way that's gonna happen by accident.

Meh, I'll believe Red's claim for now.

Kirby321 posted...

scum forgot Lea was Invisible

No way anyone forgets that

1. IGCD
4. Ulti
10.Red
7.Ben

12. Lea

2.Plum
5. Tidus
8. BlueCrystalTear

3. Sheep
6.kirby
9. Death
11. Sbell

Simple version of the game. Pull out the people linked together. Assume 5 scum. Lynch from last group(Death?). If wrong at any point, Plum is probably full of shit(Odds look potentially good for this?).

This is me completely ignoring peoples in game actions real quick. Can read back now that we have a flip and a bit more confirmations.

TidusOfTheX posted...

No way anyone forgets that

Hey Tidus what information were you looking to get out of lynching me day1?

red13n posted...

Simple version of the game. Pull out the people linked together. Assume 5 scum. Lynch from last group(Death?). If wrong at any point, Plum is probably full of shit(Odds look potentially good for this?).

I mean, I want to say this is a good analysis, but something is fundamentally wrong here since there's no way all of the remaining scum are in the last group, assuming five scum total. I'm in there for goodness sake!

But hmm... when the list is laid out like this, it definitely points to one of the claimed town powers lying...

Though honestly, lynching everybody in the last group might systematically work out. Sure, that includes me and Sheep (the latter who I presume is also town), but logically, once I flip, the odds would point to Plum very likely being a liar. If not Plum, then IGCD's role could be a scum role easily faked as a town one. Additionally, Red could be lying, though him faking the lack of a night kill isn't very pragmatic.

Math doesn't lie, though. I get the feeling there are multiple liars at work here, but this is honestly a decent plan. If Sheep is scum, I'll be surprised, but that makes our jobs easier. I have a feeling Plum is definitely lying and the other liar is... Lea? But that can only happen if Red and IGCD are both telling the truth. Red protected IGCD, so unless they're both liars, Lea would have to be scum.

... Meh, that doesn't sound right. I'd trust Lea as town way more than Red or IGCD. Though I guess I should be reserved until Sheep actually flips.

But in the meantime, I suppose Death is the popular lynch candidate for today. Tbh I don't think I felt as bad about Death compared to every other suspect, but I do have to admit his downplay of DYL's lynch doesn't look good, though I wouldn't go as far as saying his actions were a "hard defense". Good stuff, Ulti!

##Vote: Death

Wait shoot did I accidentally hammer I did not see Lea's post fuck

##Unvote

Oh nope I just can't count.

##Vote: Death

I decided to do my postgrad application stupidly late (as in the week of the deadline and also with no housing lined up after my lease expires) and am paying the price. My hours will be wack for today but hopefully I'll be around for EoD.

Plum is still not dead and I would like to reiterate that having a flesh-hungry corpse stumbling around our town is prohibitive to our long-term survival.

If he is Town he is roleblocked until he gets lynched. He has not been roleblocked. That has allowed the game to reach a state where it is "solved" if he is Town. Scum does not let that happen, it's that simple. Again, there's been zero effort to work the game out from him beyond his night actions, zero things to indicate he is Town, yadda yadda, so help me God (not you, although I would appreciate the aid). It sounds like people I trust are coming around to him being Town while people I do not trust also say he is Town and this actively offends me given how dogshit and anti-town Plum is playing. Did anyone watch him play last game? Or in Psych Mafia? Anyone at all? If he is a scanner he practically has the game sorted single-handedly and is thriving thinking about the number of scum he is about to put down.

Anyway, all that to say I do not understand where Ulti is coming from with the perspective slip clear and I would love to know how he came to that conclusion based on the words that were said.

Death, SBell and Tidus are probably all scum too. I went into the night assuming Red was Scum, and I normally want to murder backup claims on principle, but there is too much proactivity and hype, and not enough sneak and slime for this to be Scum Red, at least based on what I remember of him. I believe Red has unwittingly swapped our personalities today and I shall fulfill his niche of grumpy old man growling at pigeons for the time being. Unless someone else comes forward with another explanation for the lack of kill I buy it.

I would like claims from at least Death and SBell today. Tidus can wait until we kill Plum because there is no reason to ever lynch him first.

Also I was gonna vote Death at the end of this post and I refreshed, saw three Death votes, and panicked thinking I might have fat fingered and hammered him when I did so. Thanks for the minor heart attack, Kirby.

Guess I know what I am doing first.

UltimaterializerX posted...

"But not to make the day all about Plum here..

Looking back I am also surprised at how inactive DYL has been. Admittedly I cant remember if this is par for the DYL course. His opening post doesn't have specifically questionable stuff in it and yet it sounds... like it was written by a robot. As if the post just had to check some marks.

To compare I appreciate BCT's posts showing some effort and insight. He sounds like he is actually trying, even if it had to be forced out of him. But we can chalk that last bit up to inexperience with b8 I think?"

This was me defending BCT

"I will grant it at least that I dont know what it would do to vote DYL at this point if you already said you didnt want to lynch him today, Sheep."

This was me wondering why Sheep voted DYL if he said he didn't want to lynch him today.

"So I also tried to ISO Plum (even if that may repeat DYLs findings and Plum didn't do much of anything)."

"Yeah I noticed that, but DYL did have Ulti blocked so I think that was the sole reason for the vote."

"His third big action is to vote DYL. Not exactly undeserved if one wants to get DYL to become active, but an easy vote to make nonetheless. It didn't even stick that long."

The first sentence was me noting that DYL had already ISO'd Plum. Thats a fact not an opinion or an endorsement.
The second one was a comment about you and why your vote was placed.
The third was also more about the voter than the voted. It just happened to be DYL.

"I also think afk people also arent all the same.
Like red has a good reason to not be around for deadlines, as do Mzero and.... I forget who else has even worse timezones than me.

I dont know why DYL wasnt around on the other hand."

Not even sure how you see this as a defense

"Then there is DYL. His post to me comes across like he is a whole day behind on the discussion. I also think his logic for voting Kirby is fragile at best because it excludes the simple fact that Plum could still be the scum in there even if he did vote out of self-preservation.
Something about the DYL lynch feels off though. I mean DYL does not looks good, but except for Kirby all the voters on him seem barely motivated. (and Kirby just seems to be going after his most recent opponent out of everyone who wanted to vote him)"

This is the only one I will sorta grant you, but it was just the standard 'this all seems too easy' feeling I got at the time. I still didn't think it made DYL look good. It just made 2 other players look questionable.

Ulti did you just literally ctrl+f DYL to try and see if you can make a story out of it? Because you are almost completely wrong.

Oh and I sorta buy Red

Because I dont buy that scum would avoid a NK entirely

This throw my hypothetical scumteam for a loop though. I need to recheck everything

Death, I'd take it as a kindness if you'd claim out of the goodness of your heart. I feel like if all the people unassociated with scans claim we have an extremely high chance of solving the game, or at least hitting scum today. If we buy Plum, D1 was a town-town lynch that you stayed out of which makes the waffling look worse. If you need a bunch of foreplay I can rile up posts and votes tomorrow, but cooperation will do you credit.

Eh
If Plum is town, I would argue scum wouldn't care who died..
They might even focus on Plum since he was a claimed scanlike role.
It makes reading the day1 EOD a lot harder though which is why I came in today half expecting town to just vote Plum already.