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VampireCoyote 06/17/22 4:32:52 PM #455:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetroot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(2004_TV_series) --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965897232] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetroot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(2004_TV_series) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/17/22 4:58:02 PM #456:	Lauren boobert <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:965897947] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Lauren boobert </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/17/22 5:00:52 PM #457:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... Lauren boobert shame on you farq already made that joke <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965898053] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>Lauren boobert</quote> shame on you farq already made that joke </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Adam_Savage 06/17/22 7:38:33 PM #458:	darkknight109 posted... Already addressed this several times. and yet you keep trying to argue that it is the rest of that post is likely irrelevant, like all your others all you have to do is go "y'know what, my opinion on abortion does mean less than a womans" and like, that's it, then you can go on with your life with this understanding but instead you keep posting novels about how it isn't despite being very clear that it is. you cannot have an abortion. your opinion means less than someones who can. --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun <cite>Adam_Savage posted [p:965901946] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Already addressed this several times.</quote> and yet you keep trying to argue that it is the rest of that post is likely irrelevant, like all your others all you have to do is go "y'know what, my opinion on abortion does mean less than a womans" and like, that's it, then you can go on with your life with this understanding but instead you keep posting novels about how it isn't despite being very clear that it is. you cannot have an abortion. your opinion means less than someones who can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 06/17/22 8:29:53 PM #459:	Far-Queue posted... See, we shouldn't approach everything with common sense or logical consistency. Sometimes there are factors to be considered which tip the scales a bit. Considering those other factors is approaching the matter with common sense and logical consistency. I understand bringing that up, because a whole lot of people who love humping straw Vulcans will try to completely remove personal identity or emotions from their assessment of a situation, but that approach isn't flawed because they need to consider something other than logical reasoning to have a valid point, it's flawed because their logical reasoning is incomplete without considering those. Far-Queue posted... That Dr Spock logic doesn't fly when people's rights are being stripped away. Again, assessing the opinions in question finds that stripping away rights without personal experience is logically flawed (the decision is made based on incomplete information), but protecting those rights without personal experience is logically sound (because the information needed to justify that belief doesn't depend on personal experience). Ultimately, the only reason any man needs to be pro-choice is that the women in his life want that freedom. That's sufficient justification, and that does not in any way rely on personal experience. He can go beyond that to form a more substantial opinion by talking more broadly about bodily autonomy or bringing in stats about the potential harms of pregnancy and childbirth, but "women want this and nobody else has a right to take it from them" is all that's really needed. The burden of proof for "women should keep this right" is much, much easier to meet than the burden of proof for "this right should be taken from women." darkknight109 posted... But I still think this is a worthwhile exercise, if only for people who might be reading this and who are unconvinced one way or another. Those are minds that can actually be changed. If nothing else, it makes for more robust (and therefore more valid) opinions by prompting us to think about how to justify the beliefs we already hold. I'm not a fan of people treating abortion debates as simple academic exercises, since that's a flippant dismissal of how profoundly the issue affects people that don't have the privilege of not caring about it, but this isn't an abortion debate (we all already agree that pro-lifers should use a fleshlight made out of cactus as their primary form of birth control), so I'm fine with exercising a little. Jen0125 posted... But your opinion shouldn't have any affect on what women do whether it's good or bad. Sure it should. Or at least, it should have the same effect on what women do as it has on what anyone else do, which is to say it should be assessed on its merits and responded to accordingly. Sometimes, that means ignoring or dismissing the opinion because I don't understand the situation enough to contribute meaningfully. Sometimes, that means accepting new insights and incorporating them into one's own opinion. But that's an assessment that needs to be done for each opinion I state, not on the basis of what genitals I have. Saying this, I recognize that men very often do not offer women that same courtesy. That's wrong. When I say that women shouldn't dismiss my opinions wholesale because I'm a man, I have every intent of applying that both ways: Dismissing women's opinions because they're women is no less misogynist than this is misandrist. Jen0125 posted... If a woman and a man both have pro-choice opinions with the same background and you have a speaking event about abortion rights are you going to hire the man or woman? Why would you hire a man over a woman to talk about that? Because they're a better public speaker? Because they've done research or otherwise had experiences that allow them to provide insights the other person can't provide? There are plenty of cases where a male speaker might provide more value than a female one. Perhaps most notably, having pro-choice men speaking at the event can increase the chance that any pro-life men in the audience change their minds (and, let's be real, swaying pro-lifers is most of the potential value abortion rights events have, since it's not like you can or need to convince pro-choice people to become more pro-choice), especially coming from the perspective of saying "it's not our place to tell women what to do with their bodies" or bringing in analogies like forced circumcision or vasectomies. There are also reasons to prefer a female speaker, of course (such as avoiding female pro-life audience members falling back on "this man shouldn't tell me what to do" to reinforce their belief that they have the right to tell other women what to do, because pro-life logic), and if all other factors are equal, many events will preferentially choose the female one for the comfort of female attendees, but it's a mistake to think of that in terms of the validity of their respective opinions. The validity of their opinions is not necessarily tied to their genitals. Jen0125 posted... Everyone can have a valid opinion on boobs because everyone has breast tissue Depends on the opinion. Men wanting to make breast reduction illegal, for example, is made less valid by the fact that it's exceedingly unlikely they'll ever be in a situation where breast reduction surgery is anything more than an aesthetic thing, whereas it's a significant medical issue for many women. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:965903190] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>See, we shouldn't approach everything with common sense or logical consistency. Sometimes there are factors to be considered which tip the scales a bit.</quote> Considering those other factors is approaching the matter with common sense and logical consistency. I understand bringing that up, because a whole lot of people who love humping straw Vulcans will try to completely remove personal identity or emotions from their assessment of a situation, but that approach isn't flawed because they need to consider something other than logical reasoning to have a valid point, it's flawed because their logical reasoning is incomplete without considering those. Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>That Dr Spock logic doesn't fly when people's rights are being stripped away.</quote> Again, assessing the opinions in question finds that stripping away rights without personal experience is logically flawed (the decision is made based on incomplete information), but protecting those rights without personal experience is logically sound (because the information needed to justify that belief doesn't depend on personal experience). Ultimately, the only reason any man needs to be pro-choice is that the women in his life want that freedom. That's sufficient justification, and that does not in any way rely on personal experience. He can go beyond that to form a more substantial opinion by talking more broadly about bodily autonomy or bringing in stats about the potential harms of pregnancy and childbirth, but "women want this and nobody else has a right to take it from them" is all that's really needed. The burden of proof for "women should keep this right" is much, much easier to meet than the burden of proof for "this right should be taken from women." darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>But I still think this is a worthwhile exercise, if only for people who might be reading this and who are unconvinced one way or another. Those are minds that can actually be changed.</quote> If nothing else, it makes for more robust (and therefore more valid) opinions by prompting us to think about how to justify the beliefs we already hold. I'm not a fan of people treating abortion debates as simple academic exercises, since that's a flippant dismissal of how profoundly the issue affects people that don't have the privilege of not caring about it, but this isn't an abortion debate (we all already agree that pro-lifers should use a fleshlight made out of cactus as their primary form of birth control), so I'm fine with exercising a little. Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>But your opinion shouldn't have any affect on what women do whether it's good or bad.</quote> Sure it should. Or at least, it should have the same effect on what women do as it has on what anyone else do, which is to say it should be assessed on its merits and responded to accordingly. Sometimes, that means ignoring or dismissing the opinion because I don't understand the situation enough to contribute meaningfully. Sometimes, that means accepting new insights and incorporating them into one's own opinion. But that's an assessment that needs to be done for each opinion I state, not on the basis of what genitals I have. Saying this, I recognize that men very often do not offer women that same courtesy. That's wrong. When I say that women shouldn't dismiss my opinions wholesale because I'm a man, I have every intent of applying that both ways: Dismissing women's opinions because they're women is no less misogynist than this is misandrist. Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>If a woman and a man both have pro-choice opinions with the same background and you have a speaking event about abortion rights are you going to hire the man or woman? Why would you hire a man over a woman to talk about that?</quote> Because they're a better public speaker? Because they've done research or otherwise had experiences that allow them to provide insights the other person can't provide? There are plenty of cases where a male speaker might provide more value than a female one. Perhaps most notably, having pro-choice men speaking at the event can increase the chance that any pro-life men in the audience change their minds (and, let's be real, swaying pro-lifers is most of the potential value abortion rights events have, since it's not like you can or need to convince pro-choice people to become more pro-choice), especially coming from the perspective of saying "it's not our place to tell women what to do with their bodies" or bringing in analogies like forced circumcision or vasectomies. There are also reasons to prefer a female speaker, of course (such as avoiding female pro-life audience members falling back on "this man shouldn't tell me what to do" to reinforce their belief that they have the right to tell other women what to do, because pro-life logic), and if all other factors are equal, many events will preferentially choose the female one for the comfort of female attendees, but it's a mistake to think of that in terms of the validity of their respective opinions. The validity of their opinions is not necessarily tied to their genitals. Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone can have a valid opinion on boobs because everyone has breast tissue</quote> Depends on the opinion. Men wanting to make breast reduction illegal, for example, is made less valid by the fact that it's exceedingly unlikely they'll ever be in a situation where breast reduction surgery is anything more than an aesthetic thing, whereas it's a significant medical issue for many women. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 06/17/22 9:42:04 PM #460:	Adam_Savage posted... and yet you keep trying to argue that it is I've literally never once argued this. Quote where I stated my opinion was more important than a woman's. Adam_Savage posted... all you have to do is go "y'know what, my opinion on abortion does mean less than a womans" You mean like this? darkknight109 posted... There are men whose expertise means they have extremely important input into this discussion, whether that's researchers who have studied this issue extensively or doctors who can speak firsthand to the horrors of having to treat a woman who suffered a botched back-alley abortion (and if that woman died from it, she obviously can't speak for herself). Those people have opinions and statements that need to be given careful consideration, opinions that no layperson - male or female - can speak to. And, yes, their view should be given outsize importance - they are the experts and having experts weigh in on a matter like this is critical to good policy. To be abundantly clear, since certain individuals with low attention spans still seem to be missing this, *I AM NOT SAYING I AM ONE OF THOSE MEN.* I am very much not. I do not pretend to have any experience or credentials that would lend my opinion any notable weight in this category. Because I've done that numerous times; you just seem incapable of understanding what I'm saying. Am I still exceeding your attention span? Because I'm seriously trying to make these as short as possible now. Adam_Savage posted... you cannot have an abortion. your opinion means less than someones who can. I take some satisfaction in that you are likely furious that literally everyone else in the world would trust the expertise of a male OB/GYN over a random woman on the street when it comes to matters of pregnancy of abortion. Your opinion on this is irrelevant; I am simply stating facts. Accept or deny them, it makes no difference to me. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:965904934] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Adam_Savage posted... </cite> <quote>and yet you keep trying to argue that it is</quote>I've literally never once argued this. Quote where I stated my opinion was more important than a woman's. Adam_Savage posted... </cite> <quote>all you have to do is go "y'know what, my opinion on abortion does mean less than a womans"</quote>You mean like this? darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>There are men whose expertise means they have extremely important input into this discussion, whether that's researchers who have studied this issue extensively or doctors who can speak firsthand to the horrors of having to treat a woman who suffered a botched back-alley abortion (and if that woman died from it, she obviously can't speak for herself). Those people have opinions and statements that need to be given careful consideration, opinions that no layperson - male or female - can speak to. And, yes, their view should be given outsize importance - they are the experts and having experts weigh in on a matter like this is critical to good policy. To be abundantly clear, since certain individuals with low attention spans still seem to be missing this, I AM NOT SAYING I AM ONE OF THOSE MEN. I am very much not. I do not pretend to have any experience or credentials that would lend my opinion any notable weight in this category.</quote> Because I've done that numerous times; you just seem incapable of understanding what I'm saying. Am I still exceeding your attention span? Because I'm seriously trying to make these as short as possible now. Adam_Savage posted... </cite> <quote>you cannot have an abortion. your opinion means less than someones who can.</quote>I take some satisfaction in that you are likely furious that literally everyone else in the world would trust the expertise of a male OB/GYN over a random woman on the street when it comes to matters of pregnancy of abortion. Your opinion on this is irrelevant; I am simply stating facts. Accept or deny them, it makes no difference to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/17/22 10:56:25 PM #461:	sorry folks we're gonna have to abort this topic, it isn't viable --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:965906512] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>sorry folks we're gonna have to abort this topic, it isn't viable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sodium-chloride 06/17/22 11:31:29 PM #462:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] sure there are some random cases of men producing milk. maybe some of them are not even genotypically male, and have a hormone imbalance. my original point was that the vast majority of men do not produce milk. despite being superficially similar (and even that is stretching it if you don't count cases of gynecomastia), men's boobs and women's boobs are not biologically or functionally comparable. only things they share in common are fat and stromal tissue. there are better comparisons to make if you want to talk about body parts men and women have in common. like, literally any other part of the body that isn't involved in sexual reproduction or boobs. why not say men and women both have buttholes? or tongues? i wonder if anyone has licked their own butthole. i bet there's a porno somewhere out there <cite>sodium-chloride posted [p:965907077] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> sure there are some random cases of men producing milk. maybe some of them are not even genotypically male, and have a hormone imbalance. my original point was that the vast majority of men do not produce milk. despite being superficially similar (and even that is stretching it if you don't count cases of gynecomastia), men's boobs and women's boobs are not biologically or functionally comparable. only things they share in common are fat and stromal tissue. there are better comparisons to make if you want to talk about body parts men and women have in common. like, literally any other part of the body that isn't involved in sexual reproduction or boobs. why not say men and women both have buttholes? or tongues? i wonder if anyone has licked their own butthole. i bet there's a porno somewhere out there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/17/22 11:42:35 PM #463:	Pro-choice men are evil: the thread. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:965907247] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Pro-choice men are evil: the thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/17/22 11:44:31 PM #464:	You're evil. I'm Evil Knievel. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:965907272] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>You're evil. I'm Evil Knievel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sodium-chloride 06/17/22 11:59:13 PM #465:	a hamburger needs to have ketchup to be good. i will fight to the death on this <cite>sodium-chloride posted [p:965907496] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>a hamburger needs to have ketchup to be good. i will fight to the death on this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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party_animal07 06/18/22 12:42:48 AM #467:	ReturnOfFa posted... sorry folks we're gonna have to abort this topic, it isn't viable I think it too late at this point to terminate. We gotta see it through. --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:965908200] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>sorry folks we're gonna have to abort this topic, it isn't viable</quote>I think it too late at this point to terminate. We gotta see it through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 11:14:58 AM #468:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/7/AAAgaZAADWt_.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965914704] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/7/AAAgaZAADWt_.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 06/18/22 11:40:14 AM #469:	Just the kind of folks we need to decide whether or not you can have a D&C procedure following miscarriage, before sepsis sets in --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. Decimating fragile male egos since 2022. Egos decimated to date: 5 <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:965915167] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Just the kind of folks we need to decide whether or not you can have a D&C procedure following miscarriage, before sepsis sets in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 11:43:38 AM #470:	Far-Queue posted... Just the kind of folks we need to decide whether or not you can have a D&C procedure following miscarriage, before sepsis sets in All the men trying to legislate you can't even abort during ectopic pregnancies which are never viable. But yes, they should get a say lol <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965915221] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>Just the kind of folks we need to decide whether or not you can have a D&C procedure following miscarriage, before sepsis sets in</quote> All the men trying to legislate you can't even abort during ectopic pregnancies which are never viable. But yes, they should get a say lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 06/18/22 11:54:31 AM #471:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/5/AAfSRzAADWub.jpg --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965915402] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/5/AAfSRzAADWub.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 06/18/22 11:54:47 AM #472:	And who can forget this gem?: https://time.com/3001785/todd-akin-legitimate-rape-msnbc-child-of-rape/ Don't worry about getting pregnant from rape it's impossible if it's a legitimate rape Glad men like that get a say in how you and your doctor decide what's best for you Obviously men should be granted equal measure when deciding issues that affect women. Their opinions matter equally because it would be unfair to say otherwise waaaaah --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. Decimating fragile male egos since 2022. Egos decimated to date: 5 <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:965915407] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>And who can forget this gem?: https://time.com/3001785/todd-akin-legitimate-rape-msnbc-child-of-rape/ Don't worry about getting pregnant from rape it's impossible if it's a legitimate rape Glad men like that get a say in how you and your doctor decide what's best for you Obviously men should be granted equal measure when deciding issues that affect women. Their opinions matter equally because it would be unfair to say otherwise waaaaah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 12:11:10 PM #473:	Or the GOP political candidate who told his daughters if they're raped to just sit back and enjoy it https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/michigan-gop-candidate-fire-rape-analogy-tells-daughters-lie-back-enjo-rcna19350 Glad we have such bastions of feminism to really let us get the care we need <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965915715] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Or the GOP political candidate who told his daughters if they're raped to just sit back and enjoy it https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/michigan-gop-candidate-fire-rape-analogy-tells-daughters-lie-back-enjo-rcna19350 Glad we have such bastions of feminism to really let us get the care we need </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 06/18/22 12:17:34 PM #474:	I'm sure being men has nothing to do with how ignorant they are of the female body or the female experience, so obviously their opinions should be regarded as equal to the average woman's --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. Decimating fragile male egos since 2022. Egos decimated to date: 5 <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:965915840] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure being men has nothing to do with how ignorant they are of the female body or the female experience, so obviously their opinions should be regarded as equal to the average woman's </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/18/22 12:23:50 PM #475:	Jen0125 posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/7/AAAgaZAADWt_.jpg Far-Queue posted... And who can forget this gem?: https://time.com/3001785/todd-akin-legitimate-rape-msnbc-child-of-rape/ Don't worry about getting pregnant from rape it's impossible if it's a legitimate rape Glad men like that get a say in how you and your doctor decide what's best for you Obviously men should be granted equal measure when deciding issues that affect women. Their opinions matter equally because it would be unfair to say otherwise waaaaah Jen0125 posted... Or the GOP political candidate who told his daughters if they're raped to just sit back and enjoy it https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/michigan-gop-candidate-fire-rape-analogy-tells-daughters-lie-back-enjo-rcna19350 Glad we have such bastions of feminism to really let us get the care we need Most men would think those guys are all whackos that shouldn't have an opinion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than cherry picking examples of oblivious men to make your argument seem better. No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it so those examples don't mean shit. --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:965915987] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/7/AAAgaZAADWt_.jpg</quote> Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>And who can forget this gem?: https://time.com/3001785/todd-akin-legitimate-rape-msnbc-child-of-rape/ Don't worry about getting pregnant from rape it's impossible if it's a legitimate rape Glad men like that get a say in how you and your doctor decide what's best for you Obviously men should be granted equal measure when deciding issues that affect women. Their opinions matter equally because it would be unfair to say otherwise waaaaah </quote> Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>Or the GOP political candidate who told his daughters if they're raped to just sit back and enjoy it https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/michigan-gop-candidate-fire-rape-analogy-tells-daughters-lie-back-enjo-rcna19350 Glad we have such bastions of feminism to really let us get the care we need</quote>Most men would think those guys are all whackos that shouldn't have an opinion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than cherry picking examples of oblivious men to make your argument seem better. No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it so those examples don't mean shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 12:25:56 PM #476:	Far-Queue posted... I'm sure being men has nothing to do with how ignorant they are of the female body or the female experience, so obviously their opinions should be regarded as equal to the average woman's Can I tell you I was having massive health problems from last August 2021 until just last month in my abdomen. I went to about 4-5 male doctors for various parts inside my body and literally none of them thought to mention maybe I should see a gynecologist. I go to physical therapy for pelvic floor dysfunction and the first female provider I had (the PT) mentioned maybe I should go to a gyno to get checked, sounds like it could be related to endometriosis. It took me from August 2021-May 2022 to have literally anyone tell me that. I went to the gyno, got a new IUD and I'm cured. That's all it was. My IUD had shifted. And not a single male provider thought two seconds that something in my digestive area could be linked to my reproductive organs. But yes, trust male doctors implicitly because they're doctors. Dude they were talking about doing a colonoscopy next I can't even. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916029] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sure being men has nothing to do with how ignorant they are of the female body or the female experience, so obviously their opinions should be regarded as equal to the average woman's</quote> Can I tell you I was having massive health problems from last August 2021 until just last month in my abdomen. I went to about 4-5 male doctors for various parts inside my body and literally none of them thought to mention maybe I should see a gynecologist. I go to physical therapy for pelvic floor dysfunction and the first female provider I had (the PT) mentioned maybe I should go to a gyno to get checked, sounds like it could be related to endometriosis. It took me from August 2021-May 2022 to have literally anyone tell me that. I went to the gyno, got a new IUD and I'm cured. That's all it was. My IUD had shifted. And not a single male provider thought two seconds that something in my digestive area could be linked to my reproductive organs. But yes, trust male doctors implicitly because they're doctors. Dude they were talking about doing a colonoscopy next I can't even. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 12:26:54 PM #477:	Muscles posted... Most men would think those guys are all whackos that shouldn't have an opinion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than cherry picking examples of oblivious men to make your argument seem better. No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it so those examples don't mean shit. Most men have zero clue about the female reproductive system and that's seriously a fact. Some adult men still don't even know women have a urethra separate from their vaginal cavity. But they vote on female specific issues lmao ok <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916046] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Most men would think those guys are all whackos that shouldn't have an opinion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than cherry picking examples of oblivious men to make your argument seem better. No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it so those examples don't mean shit.</quote> Most men have zero clue about the female reproductive system and that's seriously a fact. Some adult men still don't even know women have a urethra separate from their vaginal cavity. But they vote on female specific issues lmao ok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 06/18/22 12:44:58 PM #478:	Muscles posted... No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it I'm aware. They're saying all men have an equally important opinion on it. Which is false. --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. Decimating fragile male egos since 2022. Egos decimated to date: 5 <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:965916420] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it</quote>I'm aware. They're saying all men have an equally important opinion on it. Which is false. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/18/22 12:47:31 PM #479:	Far-Queue posted... I'm aware. They're saying all men have an equally important opinion on it. Which is false. idk if I'm involved in this, but I would never suggest that all men have an equally important opinion on abortion. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:965916485] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>I'm aware. They're saying all men have an equally important opinion on it. Which is false.</quote>idk if I'm involved in this, but I would never suggest that all men have an equally important opinion on abortion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/18/22 12:48:08 PM #480:	Far-Queue posted... I'm aware. They're saying all men have an equally important opinion on it. Which is false. Except no one said that either, I think everyone itt would agree Todd Akin's opinion is not just worthless, but outright laughable and should be mocked --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:965916507] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>I'm aware. They're saying all men have an equally important opinion on it. Which is false.</quote>Except no one said that either, I think everyone itt would agree Todd Akin's opinion is not just worthless, but outright laughable and should be mocked </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 12:48:53 PM #481:	Muscles posted... Except no one said that either, I think everyone itt would agree Todd Akin's opinion is not just worthless, but outright laughable and should be mocked Except for.. You know the 100% of GOP men that dont disagree and keep voting for these people. Except all those millions of men. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916518] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Except no one said that either, I think everyone itt would agree Todd Akin's opinion is not just worthless, but outright laughable and should be mocked</quote> Except for.. You know the 100% of GOP men that dont disagree and keep voting for these people. Except all those millions of men. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 12:50:53 PM #482:	It's always really sad and pathetic to try to watch men talk about the lived female experience like they have any real idea. Then when you try to talk about the abundance of ways a large portion of men try to complicate your life by taking away basic medical care and murdering you in a parking lot if you say no to a date they hand wave it away by saying it just isn't common. And you would know how? <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916554] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>It's always really sad and pathetic to try to watch men talk about the lived female experience like they have any real idea. Then when you try to talk about the abundance of ways a large portion of men try to complicate your life by taking away basic medical care and murdering you in a parking lot if you say no to a date they hand wave it away by saying it just isn't common. And you would know how? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/18/22 12:51:29 PM #483:	Jen0125 posted... Except for.. You know the 100% of GOP men that dont disagree and keep voting for these people. Except all those millions of men. Let's end this topic on a high note - I'm sure the majority of us will agree that 100% of GOP men can rot in hell. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:965916573] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>Except for.. You know the 100% of GOP men that dont disagree and keep voting for these people. Except all those millions of men.</quote>Let's end this topic on a high note - I'm sure the majority of us will agree that 100% of GOP men can rot in hell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 12:53:02 PM #484:	ReturnOfFa posted... Let's end this topic on a high note - I'm sure the majority of us will agree that 100% of GOP men can rot in hell. Except for all the alt right GOP on this board lol <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916605] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Let's end this topic on a high note - I'm sure the majority of us will agree that 100% of GOP men can rot in hell.</quote> Except for all the alt right GOP on this board lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/18/22 1:00:36 PM #486:	I said itt (in this topic) not men as a whole, I know there are millions of stupid and/or evil men that are a problem and shouldn't be listened to, including congressmen that shouldn't be voting on those laws --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:965916775] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>I said itt (in this topic) not men as a whole, I know there are millions of stupid and/or evil men that are a problem and shouldn't be listened to, including congressmen that shouldn't be voting on those laws </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 1:02:02 PM #487:	Muscles posted... I said itt (in this topic) not men as a whole, I know there are millions of stupid and/or evil men that are a problem and shouldn't be listened to, including congressmen that shouldn't be voting on those laws I'm glad you agree with everything I said in this topic. Welcome to the dark side man. Good luck. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916799] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I said itt (in this topic) not men as a whole, I know there are millions of stupid and/or evil men that are a problem and shouldn't be listened to, including congressmen that shouldn't be voting on those laws</quote> I'm glad you agree with everything I said in this topic. Welcome to the dark side man. Good luck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/18/22 1:10:36 PM #488:	There's also millions of men that have a worthwhile opinion though, so you can't just discount men as a whole --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:965916906] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>There's also millions of men that have a worthwhile opinion though, so you can't just discount men as a whole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 06/18/22 1:11:09 PM #489:	Muscles posted... Most men would think those guys are all whackos that shouldn't have an opinion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than cherry picking examples of oblivious men to make your argument seem better. No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it so those examples don't mean shit. They don't care, they just want to bash men. It's literal strawmanning, but they don't care. We could name women like MTG, Boebert, Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell, etc... as shining examples of women's understanding of science and basic medical knowledge if we wanted to, too. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:965916919] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Most men would think those guys are all whackos that shouldn't have an opinion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than cherry picking examples of oblivious men to make your argument seem better. No one here has said all men have a valid opinion on it so those examples don't mean shit.</quote> They don't care, they just want to bash men. It's literal strawmanning, but they don't care. We could name women like MTG, Boebert, Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell, etc... as shining examples of women's understanding of science and basic medical knowledge if we wanted to, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 1:11:44 PM #490:	Muscles posted... There's also millions of men that have a worthwhile opinion though, so you can't just discount men as a whole Yes I can lmao <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965916937] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>There's also millions of men that have a worthwhile opinion though, so you can't just discount men as a whole</quote> Yes I can lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/18/22 1:15:42 PM #491:	I guess you can but it's stupid to throw away millions of opinions you agree with because of identity politics --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:965916997] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>I guess you can but it's stupid to throw away millions of opinions you agree with because of identity politics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 1:29:36 PM #492:	Muscles posted... I guess you can but it's stupid to throw away millions of opinions you agree with because of identity politics Not when it has to do with my ability to be alive and healthy It's easy for you to say this because you've never had to experience it <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965917270] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I guess you can but it's stupid to throw away millions of opinions you agree with because of identity politics</quote> Not when it has to do with my ability to be alive and healthy It's easy for you to say this because you've never had to experience it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 06/18/22 1:59:51 PM #493:	VampireCoyote posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/5/AAfSRzAADWub.jpg --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965917908] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>VampireCoyote posted... </cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/5/AAfSRzAADWub.jpg</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 06/18/22 2:03:10 PM #494:	almost 500 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965917984] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>almost 500 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/18/22 2:21:09 PM #500:	500 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:965918356] in lmao, Laur... [t:80058279]...</cite> <quote>500 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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