Board 8 > Pokemon Masters 8 Match-ups Revealed SPOILERS

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BlueCrystalTear 07/15/22 7:58:05 AM #51:	XIII_rocks posted... The semi-finals seem likely to be one-episode 3v3 battles. Hopefully Ash vs. Leon gets a minimum of three episodes. They gave Ash vs Kukui 4 episodes ffs. They can stretch to three for Ash/Leon. Already feels rushed. They should be full battles. I didn't watch Alola at all so the extent of my knowledge was that Ash won the league and battled Kukui. Four episodes is too long, especially for a fight that nobody was really anticipating. The three Ash vs. Paul took was great - that was one of the best battles of all time and the stakes were laid out so well. Ash vs. Cynthia feels like it should have high stakes and not such a rushed payoff. --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:966588792] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>XIII_rocks posted... </cite> <quote>The semi-finals seem likely to be one-episode 3v3 battles. Hopefully Ash vs. Leon gets a minimum of three episodes. They gave Ash vs Kukui 4 episodes ffs. They can stretch to three for Ash/Leon.</quote>Already feels rushed. They should be full battles. I didn't watch Alola at all so the extent of my knowledge was that Ash won the league and battled Kukui. Four episodes is too long, especially for a fight that nobody was really anticipating. The three Ash vs. Paul took was great - that was one of the best battles of all time and the stakes were laid out so well. Ash vs. Cynthia feels like it should have high stakes and not such a rushed payoff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/15/22 7:58:38 AM #52:	Also just looking at it, they have time S/V is November. My guess would be you can set almost all of September aside for Ash/Leon and still have time for some wrap-up episodes in October before transitioning to S/V --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966588798] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Also just looking at it, they have time S/V is November. My guess would be you can set almost all of September aside for Ash/Leon and still have time for some wrap-up episodes in October before transitioning to S/V </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 07/15/22 11:31:41 AM #53:	Since they are skipping July 29th, there are 14 weeks remaining after Ash/Steven until the end of the anime, assuming we follow the same format of Sun/Moon ending and Sword/Shield beginning. In 14 episodes (assuming there are no further breaks or they aren't countered by double headers) we need to finish Chloe/Eevee's story (hoping only one more episode), Goh's story (feels like there is at minimum 2 more episodes) and three Masters 8 battles which could range from 3-9 episodes, probably closer to 5-7 episodes plus one final episode at the end. There's clearly a lot of wiggle room left and it will depend if the writers decide to make the semis a 3v3 or 6v6 and how much focus they want to give on Goh and his storyline. --- Congratulations to azuarc for winning the guru challenge <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:966592523] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Since they are skipping July 29th, there are 14 weeks remaining after Ash/Steven until the end of the anime, assuming we follow the same format of Sun/Moon ending and Sword/Shield beginning. In 14 episodes (assuming there are no further breaks or they aren't countered by double headers) we need to finish Chloe/Eevee's story (hoping only one more episode), Goh's story (feels like there is at minimum 2 more episodes) and three Masters 8 battles which could range from 3-9 episodes, probably closer to 5-7 episodes plus one final episode at the end. There's clearly a lot of wiggle room left and it will depend if the writers decide to make the semis a 3v3 or 6v6 and how much focus they want to give on Goh and his storyline. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 07/15/22 11:59:46 AM #54:	It feels really weird that the most premier tournament in the pokemon world is using 3v3 instead of 6v6 all the way through. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:966593110] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>It feels really weird that the most premier tournament in the pokemon world is using 3v3 instead of 6v6 all the way through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/15/22 1:48:29 PM #55:	Oh absolutely it should but what are you gonna do This show has never fully committed to a league arc like it should. They're always crazy short, with Alola being the only one to be as long as it should have been. --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966595649] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Oh absolutely it should but what are you gonna do This show has never fully committed to a league arc like it should. They're always crazy short, with Alola being the only one to be as long as it should have been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/15/22 2:30:46 PM #56:	XIII_rocks posted... This show has never fully committed to a league arc like it should. They're always crazy short, with Alola being the only one to be as long as it should have been. Most of the leagues I'm remembering should've been another 2-3 episodes. They could've easily ditched a few of the awful filler episodes from Johto and Hoenn for those regions' leagues. Sinnoh was probably the tightest since there were very few filler episodes there. Unova had a bunch of battle tournaments before the league, which kinda went against the point; they could've scrapped one or two of those to make the league more intense. This one is fine having each first round match being a single episode except for Ash's, but they should be full battles throughout. R2 can have one episode for Leon's and two for Ash's. And then a three-episode grand finale. 5 + 3 + 3 = 11 episodes. I don't see why that would be an objectionable length. If this is Ash's grand finale like it very well might be, they certainly aren't doing him any favors if they rush this insane tournament. Still don't know where he goes from here. Again, it may be that Rica Matsumoto has had enough after 25 years, and is ready to retire. And that could be why they did this instead of a straight Galar arc. --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:966596583] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>XIII_rocks posted... </cite> <quote>This show has never fully committed to a league arc like it should. They're always crazy short, with Alola being the only one to be as long as it should have been.</quote>Most of the leagues I'm remembering should've been another 2-3 episodes. They could've easily ditched a few of the awful filler episodes from Johto and Hoenn for those regions' leagues. Sinnoh was probably the tightest since there were very few filler episodes there. Unova had a bunch of battle tournaments before the league, which kinda went against the point; they could've scrapped one or two of those to make the league more intense. This one is fine having each first round match being a single episode except for Ash's, but they should be full battles throughout. R2 can have one episode for Leon's and two for Ash's. And then a three-episode grand finale. 5 + 3 + 3 = 11 episodes. I don't see why that would be an objectionable length. If this is Ash's grand finale like it very well might be, they certainly aren't doing him any favors if they rush this insane tournament. Still don't know where he goes from here. Again, it may be that Rica Matsumoto has had enough after 25 years, and is ready to retire. And that could be why they did this instead of a straight Galar arc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 07/15/22 2:34:16 PM #57:	Maybe with the new gen's gimmick being past and future we'll get ash's ancestor and descendant next! Cue all the shipping people trying to guess which girl ash ended up with in the end --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:966596670] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Maybe with the new gen's gimmick being past and future we'll get ash's ancestor and descendant next! Cue all the shipping people trying to guess which girl ash ended up with in the end </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/15/22 2:37:06 PM #58:	I doubt the show does that. Too complex for a show that plays it very simple almost every time --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966596727] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I doubt the show does that. Too complex for a show that plays it very simple almost every time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 07/15/22 3:05:47 PM #59:	The Masters league is directly based on SwShs online ladder, for which the official format for singles is indeed 3v3. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:966597381] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>The Masters league is directly based on SwShs online ladder, for which the official format for singles is indeed 3v3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/15/22 3:27:56 PM #60:	Hbthebattle posted... The Masters league is directly based on SwShs online ladder, for which the official format for singles is indeed 3v3. So? The games' mechanics shouldn't dictate the anime's narrative. Having full battles is better for epic storytelling in a tournament like this one. I mean, they should've learned that in Sinnoh when they started allowing event legendaries in tournament play, so they had a trainer with hacked ubers in Tobias win it all. Not a good message to send. If Ash/Leon is 3v3 only, that's gonna be the biggest letdown since the ending of Kalos. --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:966597940] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Hbthebattle posted... </cite> <quote>The Masters league is directly based on SwShs online ladder, for which the official format for singles is indeed 3v3.</quote>So? The games' mechanics shouldn't dictate the anime's narrative. Having full battles is better for epic storytelling in a tournament like this one. I mean, they should've learned that in Sinnoh when they started allowing event legendaries in tournament play, so they had a trainer with hacked ubers in Tobias win it all. Not a good message to send. If Ash/Leon is 3v3 only, that's gonna be the biggest letdown since the ending of Kalos. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/15/22 3:30:25 PM #61:	If Ash/Leon isn't 6 on 6 I'd be shocked --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966597985] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>If Ash/Leon isn't 6 on 6 I'd be shocked </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shattered 07/15/22 3:41:40 PM #62:	I'm still mad that Leon is the end all be all champion. His design is so stupid. <cite>Shattered posted [p:966598238] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I'm still mad that Leon is the end all be all champion. His design is so stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 07/15/22 3:53:32 PM #63:	I love Leon's design, personally. It works well for the type of champion that comes from the more sports-like, sponsored style of Pokemon League like found in SwSh, and it's a nice change from the others. I liked that feel in SwSh in general. It's a step away from "This is just how life is" by basically making it a legit competitive sport. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:966598509] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I love Leon's design, personally. It works well for the type of champion that comes from the more sports-like, sponsored style of Pokemon League like found in SwSh, and it's a nice change from the others. I liked that feel in SwSh in general. It's a step away from "This is just how life is" by basically making it a legit competitive sport. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 07/15/22 4:20:16 PM #64:	The anime has already established via the structure of earlier season tournaments that 6 on 6 is the "serious business" portion of a tournament. This entire tournament is serious business, regardless of what the games say. And even outside of the games, stuff like smogon etc the main competitive format is 6v6. 3v3 is the warmup, 6v6 is the real stuff, that's what's been established. Also I don't mind leon. I think it is a bit weird narrative wise though that leon is the literal strongest trainer in the world but we only just heard about him in this gen but I mean, obviously the devs wouldn't be thinking 9 gens ahead when they began making the anime/manga. There was never going to be an easy way to shoehorn a person like Leon into the plot. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:966599167] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>The anime has already established via the structure of earlier season tournaments that 6 on 6 is the "serious business" portion of a tournament. This entire tournament is serious business, regardless of what the games say. And even outside of the games, stuff like smogon etc the main competitive format is 6v6. 3v3 is the warmup, 6v6 is the real stuff, that's what's been established. Also I don't mind leon. I think it is a bit weird narrative wise though that leon is the literal strongest trainer in the world but we only just heard about him in this gen but I mean, obviously the devs wouldn't be thinking 9 gens ahead when they began making the anime/manga. There was never going to be an easy way to shoehorn a person like Leon into the plot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 07/15/22 4:43:37 PM #65:	BlueCrystalTear posted... So? The games' mechanics shouldn't dictate the anime's narrative. Having full battles is better for epic storytelling in a tournament like this one. I mean, they should've learned that in Sinnoh when they started allowing event legendaries in tournament play, so they had a trainer with hacked ubers in Tobias win it all. Not a good message to send. It makes even less sense when they added a character whose goal is to catch every Pokemon to the anime this series, when you can't even do that in the games anymore. The anime hasn't followed the games all series, so it's disappointing to see that this is the first time they actually do follow the games, if that is the real reason. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:966599687] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite> <quote>So? The games' mechanics shouldn't dictate the anime's narrative. Having full battles is better for epic storytelling in a tournament like this one. I mean, they should've learned that in Sinnoh when they started allowing event legendaries in tournament play, so they had a trainer with hacked ubers in Tobias win it all. Not a good message to send.</quote> It makes even less sense when they added a character whose goal is to catch every Pokemon to the anime this series, when you can't even do that in the games anymore. The anime hasn't followed the games all series, so it's disappointing to see that this is the first time they actually do follow the games, if that is the real reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/15/22 4:48:54 PM #66:	I really don't think that's the reason. I think it's just a time thing. They wanted to give time to all the fights, but clearly didn't want 7 full battles. --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966599809] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I really don't think that's the reason. I think it's just a time thing. They wanted to give time to all the fights, but clearly didn't want 7 full battles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_PandaMaster_ 07/15/22 5:12:30 PM #67:	Imagine thinking Ash ~~won't find a way to get his Charizard back on his team and have a full Shonen Showdown with Leon's Charizard ala Naruto/Sasuke at the Valley of the End part 2.~~ IMAGINE! --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAdFc_AAApBB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Em9Xlbu.jpg [#Life&Hometown] https://i.imgtc.com/790csbr.jpg <cite>_PandaMaster_ posted [p:966600354] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking Ash won't find a way to get his Charizard back on his team and have a full Shonen Showdown with Leon's Charizard ala Naruto/Sasuke at the Valley of the End part 2. IMAGINE! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/15/22 5:35:26 PM #68:	XIII_rocks posted... I really don't think that's the reason. I think it's just a time thing. They wanted to give time to all the fights, but clearly didn't want 7 full battles. Yeah, that would've been my guess. They don't need 7 full battles, even though it should be 7 full battles. I'd think they need the semis and finals to be 6-on-6. Many leagues were full battles starting at the quarterfinals. Like Ash vs. Paul was a quarterfinal, and then Ash lost to Tobias in the semis. But those other matches were usually not featured, so that's the difference. I must wonder if there's a plot reason Tobias hasn't made an appearance, one that isn't "Oh yeah, that guy. We forgot about him." One would think that, if Ash was the first person to KO Darkrai, that the E4 would've had a lot of trouble with him. Especially with him having a Latios as backup. Who knows what else he'd hacked... --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:966600875] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>XIII_rocks posted... </cite> <quote>I really don't think that's the reason. I think it's just a time thing. They wanted to give time to all the fights, but clearly didn't want 7 full battles.</quote>Yeah, that would've been my guess. They don't need 7 full battles, even though it should be 7 full battles. I'd think they need the semis and finals to be 6-on-6. Many leagues were full battles starting at the quarterfinals. Like Ash vs. Paul was a quarterfinal, and then Ash lost to Tobias in the semis. But those other matches were usually not featured, so that's the difference. I must wonder if there's a plot reason Tobias hasn't made an appearance, one that isn't "Oh yeah, that guy. We forgot about him." One would think that, if Ash was the first person to KO Darkrai, that the E4 would've had a lot of trouble with him. Especially with him having a Latios as backup. Who knows what else he'd hacked... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 07/15/22 6:09:43 PM #69:	I think the writers just want to forget about Tobias. As for a possible plot reason, they can just say he wasn't interested in taking part, kind of what they did with Paul. --- Congratulations to azuarc for winning the guru challenge <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:966601665] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I think the writers just want to forget about Tobias. As for a possible plot reason, they can just say he wasn't interested in taking part, kind of what they did with Paul. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 07/21/22 11:18:58 AM #70:	Sounds like we'll be getting two Chloe-centered episodes after round 1, not sure if we'll get a Goh episode after or head back into the semis. --- Congratulations to azuarc for winning the guru challenge <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:966731737] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like we'll be getting two Chloe-centered episodes after round 1, not sure if we'll get a Goh episode after or head back into the semis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/21/22 11:22:50 AM #71:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/3/AAKKwUAADef5.jpg I love the hype for each match --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966731828] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/3/AAKKwUAADef5.jpg I love the hype for each match </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 07/21/22 12:13:34 PM #72:	Tobias is 100% someone they just threw in to keep ash from winning the title. Why they made him have ostensibly a team full of legendaries I dunno, but like we haven't seen Harrison from Hoenn either right? They are just there as plot excuses. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:966732970] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Tobias is 100% someone they just threw in to keep ash from winning the title. Why they made him have ostensibly a team full of legendaries I dunno, but like we haven't seen Harrison from Hoenn either right? They are just there as plot excuses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/21/22 12:43:38 PM #73:	One good thing about Tobias is that by having him thrash Ash, they could effectively get a full battle out of the way in one episode. This, I guess, allowed them to do 3 episodes for Ash/Paul I mean obviously the smart thing is to dump an earlier filler but clearly they didn't want to do that. --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966733626] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>One good thing about Tobias is that by having him thrash Ash, they could effectively get a full battle out of the way in one episode. This, I guess, allowed them to do 3 episodes for Ash/Paul I mean obviously the smart thing is to dump an earlier filler but clearly they didn't want to do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllHeDoesIsWin 07/21/22 4:04:27 PM #74:	BlueCrystalTear posted... If Leon wasn't the final boss for Ash, Not happening. Leon vs. Ash has been built up since like the first 10 episodes and the moment they were on opposite sides of the bracket pretty much locked in that final. Similar to Ash vs. Gladio in Alola BlueCrystalTear posted... I didn't watch Alola at all so the extent of my knowledge was that Ash won the league and battled Kukui. Battle Royale that went from 151 contestants to 16 in one episode Round of 16 was 1 vs. 1 with some matches just being quick cuts to show the results. 2 episodes total if I remember right. Quarters were 1 vs. 1 with matches being about half an episode to an episode long depending on matchup Semis were 2 vs. 2 with each match being an episode long. Finals was 3 vs. 3 and was one and a half episodes Break episode for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZyDugPd8s Ash vs. Kukui was 6 vs. 6 lasting 4 episodes <cite>AllHeDoesIsWin posted [p:966738395] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite> <quote>If Leon wasn't the final boss for Ash,</quote>Not happening. Leon vs. Ash has been built up since like the first 10 episodes and the moment they were on opposite sides of the bracket pretty much locked in that final. Similar to Ash vs. Gladio in Alola BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't watch Alola at all so the extent of my knowledge was that Ash won the league and battled Kukui.</quote>Battle Royale that went from 151 contestants to 16 in one episode Round of 16 was 1 vs. 1 with some matches just being quick cuts to show the results. 2 episodes total if I remember right. Quarters were 1 vs. 1 with matches being about half an episode to an episode long depending on matchup Semis were 2 vs. 2 with each match being an episode long. Finals was 3 vs. 3 and was one and a half episodes Break episode for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZyDugPd8s Ash vs. Kukui was 6 vs. 6 lasting 4 episodes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/22/22 6:45:50 AM #75:	Ash d. Steven. Pikachu KOs Cradily and then Mega Metagross using its Z-Move and then Iron Tail. Not a great battle in the first half but it picked up when Cradily came out. Gengar had previously KOd Aggron. --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966751783] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Ash d. Steven. Pikachu KOs Cradily and then Mega Metagross using its Z-Move and then Iron Tail. Not a great battle in the first half but it picked up when Cradily came out. Gengar had previously KOd Aggron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 07/22/22 1:31:06 PM #76:	Lame --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:966758305] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Lame </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/22/22 2:46:37 PM #77:	AllHeDoesIsWin posted... Not happening. Leon vs. Ash has been built up since like the first 10 episodes and the moment they were on opposite sides of the bracket pretty much locked in that final. Similar to Ash vs. Gladio in Alola That's what I was implying. I was gathering intel and figured that Ash vs. Leon was the final. No way it was going to be someone as whatever as Diantha. If Ash beats Leon, there's nothing more they can do with him. That's it, that's how his story ends. We will find out why promptly afterward - Rica Matsumoto may announce her retirement afterward, saying she kept quiet as to not spoil people that Ash's story was ending. Wonder what they're gonna do with Pikachu. He's just as important. (I'm also noting just how many previous characters, including one-offs, are resurfacing here - this really feels like it's the ending.) And... a 3-on-3 finals? Eww. They really like dropping the ball with their leagues, don't they? Ash not winning in a full battle is mightily disappointing and anti-climactic. It should've been three episodes and a full battle. Battle sounds disappointing, but Steven was never really that big of a deal in the anime to begin with. --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:966760011] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>AllHeDoesIsWin posted... </cite> <quote>Not happening. Leon vs. Ash has been built up since like the first 10 episodes and the moment they were on opposite sides of the bracket pretty much locked in that final. Similar to Ash vs. Gladio in Alola</quote>That's what I was implying. I was gathering intel and figured that Ash vs. Leon was the final. No way it was going to be someone as whatever as Diantha. If Ash beats Leon, there's nothing more they can do with him. That's it, that's how his story ends. We will find out why promptly afterward - Rica Matsumoto may announce her retirement afterward, saying she kept quiet as to not spoil people that Ash's story was ending. Wonder what they're gonna do with Pikachu. He's just as important. (I'm also noting just how many previous characters, including one-offs, are resurfacing here - this really feels like it's the ending.) And... a 3-on-3 finals? Eww. They really like dropping the ball with their leagues, don't they? Ash not winning in a full battle is mightily disappointing and anti-climactic. It should've been three episodes and a full battle. Battle sounds disappointing, but Steven was never really that big of a deal in the anime to begin with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/22/22 3:17:12 PM #78:	~~I think the final vs. Leon will be a 6-on-6~~ --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966760716] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I think the final vs. Leon will be a 6-on-6 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 07/22/22 4:10:52 PM #79:	I think he meant the Alola finals, but Kukui was always the true final boss anyway. They also made that one super awkward because Ash never had a full team of 6 in Alola except for the Kukui battle, where Naganadel came back just for that. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:966761864] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I think he meant the Alola finals, but Kukui was always the true final boss anyway. They also made that one super awkward because Ash never had a full team of 6 in Alola except for the Kukui battle, where Naganadel came back just for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokalicious 07/24/22 11:14:27 PM #80:	Bump --- ph33r teh masta~! Currently playing - Pokemon GO <cite>Pokalicious posted [p:966814403] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shattered 07/27/22 10:45:43 AM #81:	Are we ok to use non spoilers for the semi-finals yet? Guess better to be safe. ~~They better play Cynthia's piano music directly before her match with Ash.~~ <cite>Shattered posted [p:966870523] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Are we ok to use non spoilers for the semi-finals yet? Guess better to be safe. They better play Cynthia's piano music directly before her match with Ash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/28/22 5:22:42 PM #82:	Shattered posted... Are we ok to use non spoilers for the semi-finals yet? Guess better to be safe. ~~They better play Cynthia's piano music directly before her match with Ash.~~ This would be excellent I am so ready ~~https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/3/AAKKwUAADgMB.jpg~~ --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966905035] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Shattered posted... </cite> <quote>Are we ok to use non spoilers for the semi-finals yet? Guess better to be safe. They better play Cynthia's piano music directly before her match with Ash. </quote> This would be excellent I am so ready https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/3/AAKKwUAADgMB.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/30/22 9:27:42 AM #83:	Magazine leaks indicate that ~~Ash vs. Cynthia will be a 6 on 6.~~ ~~Taking it with a grain of salt obviously but sounds good!~~ --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966940975] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Magazine leaks indicate that Ash vs. Cynthia will be a 6 on 6. Taking it with a grain of salt obviously but sounds good! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 07/30/22 9:49:22 AM #84:	Yeah I heard that too, very exciting --- Congratulations to azuarc for winning the guru challenge <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:966941259] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I heard that too, very exciting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/30/22 11:50:27 AM #85:	I hope that also means two episodes, because that's really exciting news. Hoping it's true! --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:966943189] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I hope that also means two episodes, because that's really exciting news. Hoping it's true! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 07/30/22 2:42:22 PM #86:	Seeing as the first episode of the semifinals is called ~~Overwhelming Victory, it looks like Diantha's going to get crushed in a 6v6 against Leon. That one's probably not going to be pretty.~~ --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:966946545] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Seeing as the first episode of the semifinals is called Overwhelming Victory, it looks like Diantha's going to get crushed in a 6v6 against Leon. That one's probably not going to be pretty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/30/22 5:14:39 PM #87:	Mewtwo59 posted... Seeing as the first episode of the semifinals is called ~~Overwhelming Victory, it looks like Diantha's going to get crushed in a 6v6 against Leon. That one's probably not going to be pretty.~~ They've previously done full battles in one episode when Brandon/Tobias wiped the floor with Paul/Ash respectively, but it seems crazy for the gulf between Diantha and Leon to be that wide. Idk, maybe they'll cut to the match when a few Pokemon have been KOd. --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:966949496] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted... </cite> <quote>Seeing as the first episode of the semifinals is called Overwhelming Victory, it looks like Diantha's going to get crushed in a 6v6 against Leon. That one's probably not going to be pretty.</quote> They've previously done full battles in one episode when Brandon/Tobias wiped the floor with Paul/Ash respectively, but it seems crazy for the gulf between Diantha and Leon to be that wide. Idk, maybe they'll cut to the match when a few Pokemon have been KOd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 07/31/22 7:52:35 AM #88:	I hope ash loses. It would be funny --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:966963282] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I hope ash loses. It would be funny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AriaOfBolo 08/03/22 6:03:25 PM #89:	random questions because wifebolo sometimes puts on an og episode: Did we ever hear anything about Ash's dad? how about the other Pallet trainers? --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Now with no spaces! <cite>AriaOfBolo posted [p:967050623] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>random questions because wifebolo sometimes puts on an og episode: Did we ever hear anything about Ash's dad? how about the other Pallet trainers? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 08/03/22 6:28:12 PM #90:	AriaOfBolo posted... random questions because wifebolo sometimes puts on an og episode: Did we ever hear anything about Ash's dad? how about the other Pallet trainers? Oak said the other trainers called it quits at some point when Ash first returned to Pallet in Gen 1. They never appeared, and we didn't even know which starter Gary had chosen until the Johto League... which only Brock had been privy to, given the gym battle. The only thing about Ash's dad was in the most recent movie, where Ash had some memory of his father. No clues as to who said father is, but that was the first mention of the man since the very, very beginning of the anime, when Delia mentioned him in the second episode. --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:967051275] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>AriaOfBolo posted... </cite> <quote>random questions because wifebolo sometimes puts on an og episode: Did we ever hear anything about Ash's dad? how about the other Pallet trainers?</quote>Oak said the other trainers called it quits at some point when Ash first returned to Pallet in Gen 1. They never appeared, and we didn't even know which starter Gary had chosen until the Johto League... which only Brock had been privy to, given the gym battle. The only thing about Ash's dad was in the most recent movie, where Ash had some memory of his father. No clues as to who said father is, but that was the first mention of the man since the very, very beginning of the anime, when Delia mentioned him in the second episode. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GavsEvans123 08/03/22 6:47:08 PM #91:	The other Pallet Town trainers were mentioned in passing towards the end of Kanto as having quit their Pokemon trainer journeys. Ash's dad is mentioned a couple of times, but nothing specific about him other than he exists. Speaking of Ash's dad, I would like if either the last ever episode or Ash's last episode, whichever comes first, ends with Ash battling his dad atop a snowy mountain. We wouldn't get a full look at him, maybe he has his hat down obscuring part of his face. He would say something like "Delia's told me all about your achievements, and I couldn't be prouder of you. Are you ready to take on your old man?" and the episode ends as the battle between Pikachu and Ash's dad's Raichu begins. <cite>GavsEvans123 posted [p:967051752] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>The other Pallet Town trainers were mentioned in passing towards the end of Kanto as having quit their Pokemon trainer journeys. Ash's dad is mentioned a couple of times, but nothing specific about him other than he exists. Speaking of Ash's dad, I would like if either the last ever episode or Ash's last episode, whichever comes first, ends with Ash battling his dad atop a snowy mountain. We wouldn't get a full look at him, maybe he has his hat down obscuring part of his face. He would say something like "Delia's told me all about your achievements, and I couldn't be prouder of you. Are you ready to take on your old man?" and the episode ends as the battle between Pikachu and Ash's dad's Raichu begins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 08/03/22 7:56:21 PM #92:	GavsEvans123 posted... Speaking of Ash's dad, I would like if either the last ever episode or Ash's last episode, whichever comes first, ends with Ash battling his dad atop a snowy mountain. We wouldn't get a full look at him, maybe he has his hat down obscuring part of his face. He would say something like "Delia's told me all about your achievements, and I couldn't be prouder of you. Are you ready to take on your old man?" and the episode ends as the battle between Pikachu and Ash's dad's Raichu begins. Holy shit, I hope that happens. Good chance we're finding out this year. Like I said above, I'm still thinking this arc of the anime was designed to end Ash's story and start Goh's. It's a radical departure from before and most of the main characters from regions past have appeared or been referenced in some way. It really feels like this is the end, and my thought was that Rica Matsumoto is retiring. She's 53 y/o now. She's done this half her life. She may be ready for a new chapter. Ikue Otani may be ready to retire, too, but in her case they have thousands of clips they can reuse like they did when she was on maternity leave. May not appearing is relevant because her Japanese VA retired. They don't change VAs in Japan like they do here. If the VA is done, they usually retire the character except in rare circumstances when they can get away with something (see Persona 5). This is why they'd send Ash off with a bang. --- BlueCrystalTear \| You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer \| ((FREE HUGS)) <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:967053398] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>GavsEvans123 posted... </cite> <quote>Speaking of Ash's dad, I would like if either the last ever episode or Ash's last episode, whichever comes first, ends with Ash battling his dad atop a snowy mountain. We wouldn't get a full look at him, maybe he has his hat down obscuring part of his face. He would say something like "Delia's told me all about your achievements, and I couldn't be prouder of you. Are you ready to take on your old man?" and the episode ends as the battle between Pikachu and Ash's dad's Raichu begins.</quote>Holy shit, I hope that happens. Good chance we're finding out this year. Like I said above, I'm still thinking this arc of the anime was designed to end Ash's story and start Goh's. It's a radical departure from before and most of the main characters from regions past have appeared or been referenced in some way. It really feels like this is the end, and my thought was that Rica Matsumoto is retiring. She's 53 y/o now. She's done this half her life. She may be ready for a new chapter. Ikue Otani may be ready to retire, too, but in her case they have thousands of clips they can reuse like they did when she was on maternity leave. May not appearing is relevant because her Japanese VA retired. They don't change VAs in Japan like they do here. If the VA is done, they usually retire the character except in rare circumstances when they can get away with something (see Persona 5). This is why they'd send Ash off with a bang. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 08/03/22 8:05:31 PM #93:	The problem with that is, if Ash beats Leon, does his dad really stand a chance? It would seem like a copout if they're like "You know that unbeatable guy you just beat? Well I'm better than him." --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:967053596] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>The problem with that is, if Ash beats Leon, does his dad really stand a chance? It would seem like a copout if they're like "You know that unbeatable guy you just beat? Well I'm better than him." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AriaOfBolo 08/03/22 9:05:09 PM #94:	I'll accept that if his dad is Red --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Now with no spaces! <cite>AriaOfBolo posted [p:967055134] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>I'll accept that if his dad is Red </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 08/03/22 10:47:43 PM #95:	Mewtwo59 posted... The problem with that is, if Ash beats Leon, does his dad really stand a chance? It would seem like a copout if they're like "You know that unbeatable guy you just beat? Well I'm better than him." It could just be a 1 v 1 Pikachu vs Raichu rather than a full team. And it doesn't have to really be a thing where the Dad is stronger since the point isn't the winner it's the fact that he is seeing and facing his dad. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:967057317] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted... </cite> <quote>The problem with that is, if Ash beats Leon, does his dad really stand a chance? It would seem like a copout if they're like "You know that unbeatable guy you just beat? Well I'm better than him."</quote>It could just be a 1 v 1 Pikachu vs Raichu rather than a full team. And it doesn't have to really be a thing where the Dad is stronger since the point isn't the winner it's the fact that he is seeing and facing his dad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 08/04/22 1:29:15 PM #96:	The semifinals are ~~confirmed to be a 3-episode arc in September. It seems likely Leon will dispatch Diantha quite easily but at least Ash/Cynthia will get 2 episodes.~~ --- Not to be confused with XIII_minerals. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:967069617] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>The semifinals are confirmed to be a 3-episode arc in September. It seems likely Leon will dispatch Diantha quite easily but at least Ash/Cynthia will get 2 episodes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 08/04/22 1:42:49 PM #97:	Honestly I'd be surprised if ash's dad is even alive. How many seasons in are we? If ash's dad is really just off gallivanting about all this time, when he'd have had plenty o freason to visit ash beforehand after his many notable achievements, that would feel like a major "Why though" moment to me. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:967069903] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Honestly I'd be surprised if ash's dad is even alive. How many seasons in are we? If ash's dad is really just off gallivanting about all this time, when he'd have had plenty o freason to visit ash beforehand after his many notable achievements, that would feel like a major "Why though" moment to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 08/04/22 2:13:58 PM #98:	Don't you know? Ash is still 10 years old :p --- Congratulations to azuarc for winning the guru challenge <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:967070602] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Don't you know? Ash is still 10 years old :p </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 08/04/22 2:44:12 PM #99:	Man, you're right --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:967071216] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Man, you're right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 08/04/22 2:55:43 PM #100:	Emeraldegg posted... when he'd have had plenty o freason to visit ash Hey now, Ash is constantly traveling around the world so visiting him isn't that easy. Maybe he has been trying to meet up but is always about a week behind him in his travels. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:967071472] in Pokemon Ma... [t:80053743]...</cite> <quote>Emeraldegg posted... </cite> <quote>when he'd have had plenty o freason to visit ash</quote>Hey now, Ash is constantly traveling around the world so visiting him isn't that easy. Maybe he has been trying to meet up but is always about a week behind him in his travels. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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