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changmas
06/13/22 11:31:09 PM
#101:


amazing what you can do when you don't have to play for the timberwolves

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LeonhartFour
06/13/22 11:31:40 PM
#102:


changmas posted...
amazing what you can do when you don't have to play for the timberwolves

or when you can be the 4th option instead of the 1st or 2nd

people have been able to be awesome for bad Minnesota teams, Wiggins just isn't a #1 or #2

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changmas
06/13/22 11:34:38 PM
#103:


he's arguably the 2nd option these playoffs, depending on the series. generally the third option for this team though i'd say. and I agree that's a much better role for him. but certainly nobody knew he could play defense like this when he was stuck trying to be the first option in minnesota

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06/13/22 11:34:53 PM
#104:


well I was wrong. given the warriors' track record with close out games I like boston's chances on thursday. In game 7 though... it's a toss up honestly

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changmas
06/13/22 11:37:11 PM
#105:


dread it. run from it. game 6 klay arrives all the same.

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Leonhart4
06/14/22 2:13:55 PM
#106:


Leonhart4 posted...
With no game decided by fewer than 10 points

Still in line to nail this prediction after 5 games

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changmas
06/15/22 12:30:29 AM
#107:


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34092828/phoenix-suns-employee-resigns-citing-retaliation-reporting-concerns-toxic-misogynistic-culture

Robert sarver must go.

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MZero
06/15/22 6:44:12 AM
#108:


changmas posted...
Robert sarver must go.

This would be true even without this story tbh

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changmas
06/15/22 9:31:48 PM
#109:


https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1537239482394546177?s=20&t=c2crQRoyoULQTCZve9pA3g

luka got his man

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ShatteredElysium
06/15/22 9:37:33 PM
#110:


Feels like terrible value for the Rockets, I think Wood is better than that but I guess he went nuclear so they had to get rid
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changmas
06/15/22 9:40:44 PM
#111:


I assume it's more the sense that he's a free agent next summer anyway and likely has no interest in re-signing for them. And he's blocking Sengun from starting / getting more playing time who is the guy they really want in the future.

So they were willing to lose out on some value on him just to be sure they could get a first round pick back in return. Even if it's the 26th pick.

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ninkendo
06/15/22 10:02:34 PM
#112:


Still think it was a huge mistake for the pistons to get rid of wood in the 1st place

Although if we didn't get rid of him maybe we don't end up with the number one pick and Cade Cunningham

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changmas
06/15/22 10:08:54 PM
#113:


ninkendo posted...
Still think it was a huge mistake for the pistons to get rid of wood in the 1st place

Although if we didn't get rid of him maybe we don't end up with the number one pick and Cade Cunningham

i forget, did he play a year with jerami grant or did they get rid of wood to sign grant?


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LiquidOshawott
06/15/22 10:09:56 PM
#114:


Its also that the top 3 picks are all bigs and you probably want one of them to start


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ninkendo
06/15/22 10:27:31 PM
#115:


changmas posted...
i forget, did he play a year with jerami grant or did they get rid of wood to sign grant?
The latter

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LeonhartFour
06/15/22 10:53:22 PM
#117:


Gobert has proven to be utterly useless in the playoffs, so I doubt that.

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SeabassDebeste
06/15/22 10:55:59 PM
#118:


gobert is definitely not useless in the playoffs

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LeonhartFour
06/15/22 10:56:39 PM
#119:


Maybe useless is too strong of a word but teams have learned to scheme around him in a long series to where he's not nearly as effective.

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LiquidOshawott
06/15/22 11:01:08 PM
#120:


I feel like the weakness around the team is less around Gobert and more that everyone elses defense sucks

like you just play around the perimeter and they dont have a good player to defend around there

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ninkendo
06/16/22 4:41:19 AM
#121:


https://youtu.be/RmVEFnbSEZs

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Leonhart4
06/16/22 7:52:51 PM
#122:


https://mobile.twitter.com/isaiahthomas/status/1537425973787824128

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changmas
06/16/22 8:05:08 PM
#123:


i think getting christian wood and giving up basically nothing is much better for your title odds than gutting your team for gobert. reportedly utah wants a young star-upside player, salary filler, and 2-3 first round picks.

compared to more or less just the 26th pick and salary filler for christian wood who is miles more talented than gobert on offense.

even though gobert is legitimately in another world than wood on defense, dallas has a good team defensive scheme that worked well for them this year and i don't forsee wood singlehandedly ruining that.

if dallas can snag a cheap big man with good defense in free agency or on the market to pair with wood they should be in great shape moving forward.

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changmas
06/16/22 8:15:56 PM
#125:


I'm pretty confident in saying that at the very least, the warriors lineup of guards could heavily limit rudy gobert's impact on defense as they have consistently been able to do to every traditional center in the league (including Gobert himself). And Gobert isn't worth playing for his offense. most backup centers in the league have a better offensive game than him.

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SeabassDebeste
06/16/22 8:40:20 PM
#126:


changmas posted...
i think getting christian wood and giving up basically nothing is much better for your title odds than gutting your team for gobert. reportedly utah wants a young star-upside player, salary filler, and 2-3 first round picks.

compared to more or less just the 26th pick and salary filler for christian wood who is miles more talented than gobert on offense.

even though gobert is legitimately in another world than wood on defense, dallas has a good team defensive scheme that worked well for them this year and i don't forsee wood singlehandedly ruining that.

if dallas can snag a cheap big man with good defense in free agency or on the market to pair with wood they should be in great shape moving forward.

i think i'm with you here yeah. haven't watched wood but based on everything i've heard, this is great value in a trade

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changmas
06/16/22 9:30:46 PM
#128:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Too many fouls being called both ways. Its game 6 of the finals, refs. Stop being dumb.

agreed. smart has been flopping all over the place and gary payton II has the most friendly whistle in the league for some reason. absolutely no clue how he draws a foul on every fast break

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LeonhartFour
06/16/22 10:12:11 PM
#129:


wow ESPN doing a list of all-time Finals Game 6 performances and they don't even acknowledge the time Tim Duncan should've had a quadruple-double against the Nets

that's double robbery

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SeabassDebeste
06/16/22 10:12:20 PM
#130:


zach zarba has been the worst ref for the celtics this postseason. 1-4 with him reffing. they're always called awfully too.

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changmas
06/16/22 10:16:16 PM
#131:


maybe tatum shouldn't do that take foul in the first quarter that he does every single game if he doesn't want to be in foul trouble.

can't wait for them to legislate those fouls out of the game next year

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SeabassDebeste
06/16/22 10:35:16 PM
#132:


yeah, i absolutely hate take fouls. celtics are always taking 1-2 in the first quarter.

anyway, the defense looks like it's finally breaking this game.

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SeabassDebeste
06/16/22 10:38:35 PM
#134:


when a dude just grabs someone at half court to stop the game and prevent a fast break

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changmas
06/16/22 10:39:08 PM
#135:


when you just grab a guy to stop the fast break with no intention to make a play on the ball

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changmas
06/16/22 11:00:21 PM
#137:


curry getting mauled on every drive as per usual. the only way to stop him.

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ninkendo
06/16/22 11:11:42 PM
#138:


Gary Payton II gonna get an NBA Title way earlier than The Glove did

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SeabassDebeste
06/16/22 11:18:13 PM
#140:


god, help al on defense. he's guarding curry well but there's just no one at the rim protecting him

22 celtic turnovers

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changmas
06/16/22 11:23:17 PM
#141:


that should do it.

steph finally gets his long-deserved finals mvp!!!!! let's go!!!

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Leonhart4
06/16/22 11:25:38 PM
#142:


Kevin Durant is 1-4 in his last 5 playoff games without Steph Curry

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changmas
06/16/22 11:27:45 PM
#144:


Leonhart4 posted...
Kevin Durant is 1-4 in his last 5 playoff games without Steph Curry

don't play-in games not count as playoffs for stat purposes? so he would be 0-6 in his last 6 games I believe

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LeonhartFour
06/16/22 11:28:19 PM
#145:


sorry I meant Finals games

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changmas
06/16/22 11:29:27 PM
#146:


ah, gotcha

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SeabassDebeste
06/16/22 11:30:47 PM
#147:


sad finish but it always is. what a postseason for the celtics.

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colliding
06/16/22 11:35:23 PM
#149:


happy for klay and wiggins particularly

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ninkendo
06/16/22 11:35:37 PM
#150:


See you all next week for the NBA Draft

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