Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 4 - Red/Green

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:30:32 PM
#101:


Sultan I think you should have kept that a secret...But now you might as well give flavor

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/19/22 7:31:01 PM
#102:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Sultan you do know you didn't have to claim either parts of this right.

I do know that but I did anyways.

I think it might be important to know Lea didnt move exspshally with her being trown around as a possible lynch today.

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ViolentAbacus
05/19/22 7:31:01 PM
#103:


masterplum posted...
How would you know this before the flip?

Nothing I've seen claimed he did know?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:31:03 PM
#104:


masterplum posted...
How would you know this before the flip?
I am discussing it today. Rephrase?

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:31:41 PM
#105:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...


I do know that but I did anyways.

I think it might be important to know Lea didnt move exspshally with her being trown around as a possible lynch today.


Should have held it back for Lea's claim

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:31:43 PM
#106:


Chris made an argument based on the assumption he knew that he would be a poisoner

How would chris know he knew that

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changmas
05/19/22 7:31:44 PM
#107:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I do know that but I did anyways.

I think it might be important to know Lea didnt move exspshally with her being trown around as a possible lynch today.

she claimed it herself though. i don't think anyone was suggesting she was lying about that

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:31:56 PM
#108:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I do know that but I did anyways.

I think it might be important to know Lea didnt move exspshally with her being trown around as a possible lynch today.

Scum has many roles that do not move at night.

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Hbthebattle
05/19/22 7:32:20 PM
#109:


how does prostitute work again?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:32:26 PM
#110:


masterplum posted...
Chris made an argument based on the assumption he knew that he would be a poisoner

How would chris know he knew that

I made a post theorizing maybe scum knew their roles as a scum advantage.

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Obellisk
05/19/22 7:32:29 PM
#111:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Scum has many roles that do not move at night.


was about to say this

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/19/22 7:32:52 PM
#112:


I was told I pick someone to sleep with they are told they were slept with I find out if they moved or not

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Obellisk
05/19/22 7:32:58 PM
#113:


remember that thing we were all waiting for that tells us Sultan js absolutely town?

it happened.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:32:58 PM
#114:


Hbthebattle posted...
how does prostitute work again?

You can see if your target got up or not but not to whom

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:33:22 PM
#115:


I mean hell, I guess everyone else is doing it.

I was quite surprised when I flipped from starwars to scum. Scum has to have know that was the case before hand. That makes me wonder if chris slipped up when he off hand implied he knew that sheep was going to flip.

I need to recheck this to make sure

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Hbthebattle
05/19/22 7:33:40 PM
#116:


masterplum posted...
Chris made an argument based on the assumption he knew that he would be a poisoner

How would chris know he knew that
You said it yourself:
All scum knew the flavor beforehand and knew they would transform otherwise the safelist would be a suicide list
It's not too big a leap to think they knew both their roles, too.

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changmas
05/19/22 7:33:40 PM
#117:


masterplum posted...
I was quite surprised when I flipped from starwars to scum.

any slippers?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:33:41 PM
#118:


masterplum posted...
I mean hell, I guess everyone else is doing it.

I was quite surprised when I flipped from starwars to scum. Scum has to have know that was the case before hand. That makes me wonder if chris slipped up when he off hand implied he knew that sheep was going to flip.

I need to recheck this to make sure

Slipped up huh

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:33:49 PM
#119:


Lol, Starwars to pokemon. Have scum on the brain

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Hbthebattle
05/19/22 7:34:22 PM
#120:


masterplum posted...
I was quite surprised when I flipped from starwars to scum.


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htaeD
05/19/22 7:35:15 PM
#121:


Okay but you being a prosty makes this question you asked seem very.... weirdly motivated?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Hold up with a game this size is having 2 trackers really that unreasonable?

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:36:02 PM
#122:


htaeD posted...
Okay but you being a prosty makes this question you asked seem very.... weirdly motivated?

You think scum sultan is really scanning town Lea?

Sultan has to be the lock of the century here for town, unless you think this is an elaborate scum ploy where both are scum

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:37:25 PM
#123:


Plum I just want Sultan to be able to tell me why he asked that question at the time.

Granted I dont think scum has a Prosty along with a Tracker, but I am still curious about his mindset.

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:37:47 PM
#125:


UltimaterializerX posted...
##Vote: Chris

Any game where you live past the strongman is a game where you should die on general principle. No offense. Bussing a strongman to give yourself an excuse to be alive forever is basically your scum MO.

Ok no, it's ulti

Why does ulti assume that chris is bussing a strongman here? He would have to know that scum knew that sheep was going to flip into a poisoner

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:38:16 PM
#126:


Anyway while plum goes on an adventure

Eod I made a list so I am going to rework it now

Town
Plum
Corrik
Isquen
Sultan
Hb
Kirby
Death
Chang

Scum
Arti
Lea
Ben

Ehhh

Sbell
Red
AV
mzero
Jc
Scare
Ulti

Ehh unordered

Igcd improves my pov by dying which was nice of him.

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:38:25 PM
#127:


htaeD posted...
Plum I just want Sultan to be able to tell me why he asked that question at the time.

Granted I dont think scum has a Prosty along with a Tracker, but I am still curious about his mindset.

That's fair

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:39:24 PM
#129:


I am contemplating sliding ulti up to town on the not so complicated premise that I don't know if any scum right now want to mess with me given what I did to sheep day one.

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Hbthebattle
05/19/22 7:39:34 PM
#130:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I think Chris is scum too, tbqh.
Again, on top of everything yesterday, where Chris kept the day extremely active, based on the way IGCD was playing there's no way he protects anyone other than Chris. To make this work, you have to believe scum shot themselves.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:41:28 PM
#131:


If I may suggest anyone who has Chris fear may want to carefully iso me and sheep yesterday. I was harassing him from the start and really I was on top of my game. You got to think I was really determined to be cruel to sheep yesterday if that was a bus. Which maybe you do but I did fine work yesterday.

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:41:49 PM
#132:


Ulti is feeling overly nonsensical.

Nor sure what that means.

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:43:12 PM
#133:


Plum.... I think you are inverting your feelings towards the concept of 'how could he know that?' here.

Granted Ulti should explain this instead of me, so his response isnt the greatest.

But town did not need to have known anything they couldn't know to assume Chris was bussing another player. Because every town would be able to theorize that scum knew about Sheep becoming a Poisoner in advance.

Besides Ulti's theory is bad anyway (also a scumChris wouldn't have needed to bus Sheep until day2)

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:43:33 PM
#134:


masterplum posted...
Ulti is feeling overly nonsensical.

Nor sure what that means.

Ulti is trying to bait someone to vote me he thinks I am out. He listened to me about massing obviously he doesn't think I am scum. But we don't need to bait things ulti just talk to Lea when she comes around.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/19/22 7:46:10 PM
#135:


Anways
##vote:Ben

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Hbthebattle
05/19/22 7:46:26 PM
#136:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
just talk to Lea when she comes around.
She was around, and then she vanished. Not the best of looks.

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:46:53 PM
#137:


Chris did Ben tell you why he claimed nilla at first?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:47:39 PM
#138:


I would ask that we don't just all vote Ben. We have plenty of time and five more scum to catch in total in all likelihood. So let's just chill. Coming to a conclusion an hour in deaden the day and does town no favors. If you don't wish to burn out and are in my town list you can flake a bit, that's cool, but please don't take away avenues to further break down the game.

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:49:22 PM
#139:


I think Ben is pretty town here

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:50:12 PM
#140:


Chris is the best choice for Neighboring I will concede

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:50:28 PM
#141:


Hbthebattle posted...
She was around, and then she vanished. Not the best of looks.

People get busy. I am cool letting her speak with me and not presuming. Her words have enough issues! I have a line of questioning already thought out.

htaeD posted...
Chris did Ben tell you why he claimed nilla at first?

Not that I can recall. He led with maybe thinking scare was scum for his eod and we chatted and agreed on a lot of things which makes me a little more lenient today maybe. I want to give him a chance to talk a lot with us and to explain. To me with what we have now I want a robust discussion between those two and for people to give input.

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:50:31 PM
#142:


Ben making a terrible claim as town that does him absolutely no good is 100% grade A Ben

I want a Red claim, as he claimed being a pokemon and I want to know how the hell he knew that.

Red is not someone who makes terrible claims as town

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:51:04 PM
#143:


In fact

##Vote:Red



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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:51:34 PM
#144:


masterplum posted...
I think Ben is pretty town here

Who do you think is suspicious? The end of yesterday you had kirby/me/Lea. Any development on that front?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/19/22 7:52:56 PM
#145:


masterplum posted...
In fact

##Vote:Red

I feel this vote for this reasoning may be ill thought out. As a long time host I can for sure see han finding it funny to have one or more people start as pokemon and not star wars. For example I have a hunch that isquen was a pokemon yesterday. (No need to confirm that isquen. In fact, dont)

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:53:43 PM
#146:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Who do you think is suspicious? The end of yesterday you had kirby/me/Lea. Any development on that front?


Still Lea, and Kirby hasn't really posted yet but nothing has changed on that front.

The whole pokemon flip thing made some things more interesting to look at for now.

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masterplum
05/19/22 7:55:24 PM
#147:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I feel this vote for this reasoning may be ill thought out. As a long time host I can for sure see han finding it funny to have one or more people start as pokemon and not star wars. For example I have a hunch that isquen was a pokemon yesterday. (No need to confirm that isquen. In fact, dont)

It's possible, but I wasn't a huge fan of red yesterday, and it feels as valid of a path to go down as any

Though I don't really like you feeding him rationale like that

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:55:35 PM
#148:


I would imagine myself that Han made the flavor split clear enough to scum
I dont see Red just picking a pokemon flavor either when all his teammates were likely all star wars characters

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ViolentAbacus
05/19/22 7:56:51 PM
#149:


The thing about Red is I don't see him saying he was a pokemon character in the middle of everyone else saying they were Star Wars.

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htaeD
05/19/22 7:56:53 PM
#150:


masterplum posted...


It's possible, but I wasn't a huge fan of red yesterday, and it feels as valid of a path to go down as any

Though I don't really like you feeding him rationale like that


Red shouldnt 'reason' in Hans place to begin with
If he was/is a Pokemon he was/is a pokemon

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