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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 4:57:58 PM
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Welcome back to Board 8 Ranks 2010s Horror Movies! We've had surprises, we've had arguments, and we've had hatred of Terrifier. The carnage is only going to heat up as we enter into the mid-way portion of the list and beyond. So strap in tight and get excited, because Chapter 2 is underway!

The rankings so far:
21. Creep (2014)
22. Sinister (2012)
23. Halloween (2018)
24. Insidious (2010)
25. A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night (2014)
26. The Purge: Anarchy (2014)
27. Terrifier (2016)
28. Curse of Chucky (2013)
29. V/H/S (2012)
30. Bird Box (2018)

Outlier
Tom Nook: 105
red13n: 84
Snake: 75
PrinceKaro: 74
Suprak: 73
FFDragon: 64
Plasmabeam: 60
Inviso: 51
jcgamer107: 51
fortybelowsummer: 45
thesmark: 34
rockus: 33
Lightning_Strikes: 31
Johnbobb: 28
BetrayedTangy: 27

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Suprak the Stud
05/19/22 4:58:58 PM
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Damn. The sequel is never as good as the original.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 4:59:04 PM
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Next ranking will be up in just a little bit, sorry for the longer-than-usual wait, busy day and all that!

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BetrayedTangy
05/19/22 5:10:19 PM
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Suprak the Stud posted...
Damn. The sequel is never as good as the original.

Tell that to Evil Dead 2

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jcgamer107
05/19/22 5:13:58 PM
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Well I prefer Evil Dead 1

Ouija: Origin of Evil though...

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Lightning Strikes
05/19/22 5:14:25 PM
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Theres s sequel thats better than its original on this list!

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Lightning Strikes
05/19/22 5:16:45 PM
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Also theres been a lot of talk of which Flanagan film should have been on this list and I think that Ouija: Origin of Evil has the strongest case for being the most improved sequel of all-time.

Though in non-horror films apparently Top Gun: Maverick is up there for that!

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 5:32:05 PM
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Suprak the Stud posted...
Damn. The sequel is never as good as the original.

This is almost always correct when it comes to horror movies. Sequels suck because once you know what the monster/evil/etc. is capable of, it becomes less scary.

That's why it Aliens is such a successful sequel. It doesn't try to be a better horror movie than the original--it doesn't try to be a horror movie at all.

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 5:32:59 PM
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BetrayedTangy posted...
Tell that to Evil Dead 2

You mean Evil Dead Remake?

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 5:37:35 PM
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Blaziken 1 hour ago #497
Ideally, the next one out wouldn't be one of the fun movies. It'd be one of the high-minded movies. But it won't be, since fun is subjective and people are lame.

Yeah, so far we've only disemboweled one of the highbrow movies (A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night).

Everything else has been Slashers, Found Footage, and Haunted House movies.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 5:48:20 PM
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20. Don't Breathe (256 points)

Why I Chose It: One of the biggest successes of the decade both critically and commercially, Don't Breathe was also one of the decade's many films to highlight a specific sense or senses - in this case, sight & sound. Don't Breathe offered an unflinching portrayal of Detroit & the lower-class, PTSD, and how tragedy effects us all while delivering it through a complete cast of gray-moral characters, making it a film that played as much to horror as it did a modern-day drama piece.

Plasmabeam: 4
Tom Nook: 4
jcgamer107: 9
BetrayedTangy: 17
rockus: 17
thesmark: 17
fortybelowsummer: 19
Johnbobb: 19
Snake: 19
Inviso: 20
Lightning Strikes: 20
red13n: 21
PrinceKaro: 22
FFDragon: 23
Suprak: 25

Plasmabeam - This is how you do a haunted house story. Ditch all the usual cliches and create a scenario where the monsters become the victims and the victim becomes the monster. I love the use of characterization and moral ambiguity in this one. And the turkey baster scene will likely never be purged from my memory bank.

Tom Nook - This is a great movie for a couple simple reasons. It takes the familiar, but turns enough of it on its head to make the whole thing refreshing. Then add in possibly the most iconic new horror villain of the 2010s, and you have a big success! It takes the home invasion concept, but instead, the main villain is the one being invaded. I really had no sympathy for the 3 "good guys" though, no matter what sob story they tried to sell me. This lead to me rooting for the villain, who was just a poor blind guy living by himself who's daughter died. They eventually show us that he is in fact quite a monster himself! But that doesn't change me rooting for him, because thieves are scum. The whole thing played out in a suspenseful and satisfying way.

Jcgamer107 - One of the most tense theater experiences Ive ever had. A friend who was there with me nearly walked out at the uh.baster scene, and I cant hardly blame her. For me though: just fucked up enough. Theres great horror to be found in going even deeper past the initial premise into something much worse. Full of well-shot suspense sequences, and perfectly captures Detroit as a desolate hellhole.

BetrayedTangy - I have to respect the decision to use a much smaller cast of characters here. Most horror flicks will have characters whose only purpose is to be killed off. Dont get me wrong I love when a movie can come up with a whole slew of creative kills, but theres something refreshing about the back and forth between Rocky/Alex and the Old Man. It feels like a fight for survival from both sides and not just this unstoppable thing slaughtering a bunch of defenseless people. In fact, I find it pretty funny that they had to make the guy a fucking rapist, just so dont have any sympathy for him. I also really like when movies have the movie pretty much start at night and it ends in the morning. A lot of movies on the list do it to some degree, but I think Dont Breathe does it the best. The darkness is used so well throughout the entire movie and really puts into perspective how much we rely on our eyesight. Then once were finally given the light of a new morning and Rocky thinks shes safe we get the awesome shot of the dog running out of the house and realize the danger is still there.

Rockus - Dont Breathe proves that you can have a pretty solid movie even when the writing isnt all that good. After the movie establishes some perfunctory motivations for two of its leads it throws a wrench into their break-in schemes by having their third wheel be pretty much the dumbest guy youll see in one of the movies on this list, and thats saying a lot. However, Fede lvarez puts together a pretty solid thriller once everyone shuts up. Assured direction and well established understanding of space makes the second half of this worth seeing. He begins to run out of tricks and turns in the last twenty minutes where it feels like he could have ended it sooner but its still a pretty decent movie overall.

Thesmark - Begins by painting a slightly sympathetic portrait of home robbers (well, 2 of them, one is just an asshole) out to make one last big score at a blind guys house so they can get out of their shitty situations and move to Californiathat of course goes horribly wrong and THEN turns into a horror film. The premise when they break into the house is kind of like Wait Until Dark except instead of Audrey Hepburn, its buff Iraq war vet Stephen Lang the robbers are dealing with. Early on, theres a oner that, while not technically impressive because it clearly involved digital trickery, does a great job of giving us a sense of the geography of the house that will come into play for the rest of the film. And for most of it, its a really good tense thriller where the hunters become the prey and Stephen Lang is great; however, in the last 20 minutes it takes a turn in a pretty fucked up direction and the idea of there being a Dont Breathe 2 where Lang is the good guy is INSANE. I mean, the turn does shift our alligences towards the robbers (which is a whole can of worms in itself), but Im not a fan at all. The first hour is strong enough that it lands in the middle of my list though.

Fortybelowsummer - Suspenseful and kept me on the edge of my seat, especially when the lights went out and blind psycho guy gains the advantage. I downloaded this years ago and never got around to watching it because it didnt seem overly interesting. Id say I was pleasantly surprised, and it was well directed and well-acted. The girl in the basement was a good twist that raised the stakes and revealed the true danger that the characters were in. As far as home invasion horror (I didnt actually realize that was considered a specific sub-genre until recently) there are better examples, but this one is definitely unique and worth a watch.

Johnbobb - One of the handful of great horror movies on this list that absolutely did not need a sequel. In fact, this might have honestly sat better in my mind had they not made a sequel! Don't Breathe does a really interesting thing juggling who the "victim" of the movie is. By all means, the blind man being robbed by a few 20-somethings should be the victim, but of course he turns the tables on them. Even then, it's hard to chalk him up as the villain, because he is of course still the one whose home is being broken into. Then you see it, and any sympathy you might've had for him is gone, leaving him as one of the most memorable horror antagonists of the decade.

Snake - A nice little thriller, straight-forward with one MAJOR twist thrown in close to the end of the run time. Its easily the most memorable part of the film, a disgusting capstone on a film that otherwise was playing it pretty straight and safe to be honest. And I mean disgusting in a good way - the horror is completely flipped on its head, the home-burglars never had a chance. The use of lighting or lack of it really is excellent and so is the solid use of sound throughout. The fact they used real Detroit locations just adds SO MUCH atmosphere to the film as well. I do look back fondly on this film and I think its way better than the sequel, yet at the same time it doesnt have that next special step up I think to make it a top-tier favorite for me. Definitely solid though.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 5:49:26 PM
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Lightning Strikes - Its kind of messed up to rob a blind guy, isnt it?

I really enjoy when a film really makes you feel the weather and the season of the time it is taking place. In Dont Breathe, unlike most horror films which tend to favour cold, chilly nights, this one is drenched in heat and long days, the film released in August and you can truly feel the late summer energy. I like that about it quite a lot. I also feel that the film plays out the stalker thriller idea in quite a fun way in that both the apparent victim at first turns out to be the monster of the piece and the protagonists are largely shown to be pretty bad people indeed. This adds something of a moral ambiguity to the early parts of the film, and then it wrongfoots you when it turns up the nastiness and makes it very clear that this guy is no good even if he is the supposed victim at the start. Overall there is a sense that the film is making a point that extending your own suffering to others is ultimately wrong.

This aspect is where the film does falter a bit, the sequence with the other women in the house does seem misjudged, it is getting into some territory that I dont quite think the film was equipped to handle. It feels a little bit too nasty when I feel like the film was already nasty enough. That sequence aside there is a really effective villain in Stephen Lang, the leads are all well played and there are effectively suspenseful scenes throughout.

On the whole this is a very good thriller with a fun concept (What if Daredevil was the bad guy?) and a great atmosphere to it all. I really enjoyed it on the whole. I have to question however, why anybody thought the sequel to this film was a good idea. Making the villain here, after everything he does, the protagonist has to be one of the most magnificently misjudged story moves I have ever seen. That isnt this film though, which I like!

4/5

Biggest scare: The dog somehow manages to be scarier than the man.

Red13n - Honestly this would have been a really cool movie if it was just about a heist gone wrong and a blind dude turning their day into a horrible nightmare. But then we have to go off the rails and because the blind can can't just be this terrifying death machine but also has to be evil, we throw in this weird kidnapping and impregnation plot, then toss in this weird moral code of the blind guy not being a rapist but then because it isn't plot convenient just decide to turn him into a rapist. Also I'm pretty sure the title of the movie was a dropped concept, as while the blind guy has heightened senses for the most part you never feel like he can track anyone just by them breathing, which really feels like the intention you thought they might go for early on.

PrinceKaro - So this trio of professional thieves get the incredibly stupid idea of trying to burglarize the home of a reclusive military veteran WHILE HE'S STILL IN THE HOUSE. Remember, they made the decision to do this job before they even found out he was blind. Forget not breathing, this film should be called 'Don't Think'.

There is some excellent cinematography, but it starts to get very silly as time goes on as the scenario is forced upon the movie with the strength of a brazilian jujitsu hold, as increasingly stupid reasons why they just cant leave the house start occurring.

It feels like they needed to stack the deck absurdly in favor of the blind guy in order to make him seem threatening. I mean he literally can't see, just toss something to the other side of the room and thwack him in the back of the head when he goes to check it out.

The story is just a tired scenario that they try to inject some freshness into by making everyone play blindman's bluff, but if you think this will be any good don't hold your breath.

FFDragon - The better of the "blind" movies, with questionable morality all around.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 5:50:45 PM
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Suprak -

C-
This was, to me, the holy shit what the fuck movie on the list. We didnt have anything truly deranged like Human Centipede or anything like that, but this is the one that came closest for me. This isnt a movie I watched before, but I had heard mostly positive things from friends so it was one I was definitely interested in watching. Im now reevaluating those friendships. It doesnt waste much time getting started, and the three heroes find themselves in this house relatively quickly. It was at this point that I found myself wondering wow how is this movie going to stretch things out another hour. The answer I soon found was well, not very well if were being completely honest and you are stuck with another hour and a half or so as three (and very soon two) characters must try and find their way out of this house that they had wrongfully assumed would be lightly protected.

Whats interesting is that I unintentionally watched this after A Quiet Place which I OPINION REDACTED. But it was weird comparing the creatures in that to the monster in this, who is quite literally an old blind man. Hes a super jacked old blind man, dont get me wrong, but hes just an old blind man who seems to be doing some sort of Bane impression (and who I was shocked to find out wasnt actually Donald Sutherland). I had assumed from the title that he was going to possess these amazing super senses, but the film is a lot more grounded than that. His whole thing seems to be that he knows the layout to his house really well and he can smell the intruders nasty dirty shoes they left by the back doorway. Other than that, hes not doing anything all that crazy. He walks right past Clay from 13 Reasons Why even though he wasnt exactly breathing quietly. He accidentally stabs the corpse on top of Clay instead of Clay himself. And in order to actually cause damage he has to get super close and even then he sometimes winds up missing you. I dont know, but I feel like if I was going to rank the monsters or bad guys in this list in terms of most intimidating to least, hed somehow not rank because I wouldnt put old man with a disability sticker on his car as something I was particularly afraid of unless I had a deathly allergy to Werthers candy.

So thats your bad guy here, and I feel like they thought of this to film one scene and one scene only. Like they had a concept for one scene and built a movie around it as best as they could. Im talking about the chase in the basement. Dont get me wrong its a great scene. When the one character is getting closer and closer with their arm out, and the old man slowly comes into focus and hes just inches away before he hears another noise and moves on thats fantastic. Really good film making there, and some great tension as you want to shout out NO DONT DO THAT HES RIGHT THERE! I mean, sure it sort of takes away some points as to how much of a threat this guy is as he cant hear them walking towards him in a completely silent basement, but it looked really interesting and was the closest I came to actually liking this movie. The whole basement scene is really well done, as he deftly makes his way through this familiar space and the two remaining characters are just sort of blindly fumbling around. I really liked the contrast to what you would assume it would be, and suddenly finding themselves in the pitch dark and completely helpless while the old man is now right in his element is a really clever twist on what the normal dichotomy would be. I almost bumped this movie up a few spots for that alone, because it truly is a great sequence.

One of the biggest struggles this film has is coming up with ways to make you cheer on the protagonists. I mean, a crucial component to a horror film like this is making it so Im not actively rooting for the monster to kill all the kids at the campground, and Dont Breathe spends like half of the movie trying to justify this. I mean, the set up is bonkers insane. The good guys are a group of three burglars that break into peoples houses and steal their stuff and wear their clothes and pee on their carpet, and the bad guy is a disabled war hero mourning the recent death of his daughter. Like, before we find out dude has turkey basters full of semen waiting for us in his basement, all we know about him is that he lives in this horrendous house that has no neighbors for like three blocks in any direction because of how much the city is falling apart and the only reason he has money for them to steal is because his daughter died in a tragic accident and he got some big settlement from a rich family. This group of goons is going to a blind mans house to steal his sorry your daughter is dead money. Like holy shit what the fuck? This sounds like the script to a terrible late 2000s Clint Eastwood movie where the old guy is supposed to be the hero , only someone had to try and rewrite the script to make him the bad guy on a dare and this was the movie that came out of it.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 5:50:52 PM
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And to make the main character here semi-sympathetic, they try to out tragedy this old man. There is this hilarious info dump where she talks about how she used to get locked in the trunk of her moms car, and what gave her hope was one time she saw a ladybug and Im sorry, this is one of the dumbest parts of any movie on this list and it is even dumber where some random ladybug shows up in the final scene in a hamfisted attempt to tie it all together. The reason the main character needs the money then is so she can move her and herlittle sister? Did they even explain that part? Anyway, move her and her maybe little sister out of her moms trailer, who spends her one scene in the movie intimating her daughter is a whore and sitting next to her boyfriend that has a literal Nazi tattoo on his arm. And then the reason the dude from 13 Reasons Why needs the money is because he wants to bone this girl so I guess were supposed to cut him some slack. But, again, I repeat my earlier point of holy shit what the fuck because even with all this tragedy porn they try to stick in our faces, I spent the first two-thirds of the movie actively rooting for the blind guy (who I should remind you is a disabled war vet and who only has money because his daughter JUST DIED IN A TRAGIC ACCIDENT). It is such an insanely stupid setup and it botches all the horror when Im like haha yeah old man get those kids. It would be like if in the first scene of Nightmare on Elm street, all the kids got together and set Freddy Kruegers dog on fire and also Freddy Krueger was a volunteer at the orphanage who lost his hands in a tragic saving babies from a woodchipper incident. And then we were supposed to be rooting for those kids. Likeno. Want to avoid the horror in this movie? Just dont break into this old guys house and poison his dog.

And I guess while Im on the subject of holy shit what the fuck, I should probably mention THE SCENE in this movie. I was neither frightened nor entertained by what I was watching here, but I will say this movie disturbed me more than any other film on the list, all thanks to a turkey baster and what can I only assume was weeks worth of masturbation. The whole twist of this movie is that the blind man is also a monster, and has the woman responsible for his daugthers death tied up in a room in his basement. How does a blind man who never leaves his house and would be useless navigating places he wasnt intimately familiar with manage to kidnap anyone? Great question, and the movie doesnt feel like answering it. Ill give the movie the benefit of the doubt and assume that she came to his house to apologize, but then that opens up the question of why dont the police check this place out? but I cant sit around focusing on all the ways the movie is dumb because I dont want to write out another six paragraphs.

Regardless, the SECOND TWIST is that this old dude is actually a SUPER MONSTER and had impregnated this woman for the sole purpose of giving him another kid. She dies because blind man wildly firing in the basement has consequences. The scene that Im going to remember, probably forever, from this movie is the one where he throws the main character in this weird harness, brings her off the ground, rips a hole in her pants, and the approaches her with a turkey baster FULL of blind old man semen to now get her pregnant as payback for the baby he accidentally killed because of her earlier. I was squirming this whole scene and had several different variations of holy shit what the fuck come out of my mouth. The scene winds up being capped off with what I can only describe as the HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK climax of this holy shit what the fuck movie, where Clay from 13 Reasons Why shows up and saves her, and she turns the tables on him by forcing him to deepthroat the turkey baster and squeezing until his own cum explodes from his mouth. I hate that forcing him to deepthroat the turkey baster and squeezing until his own cum explodes from his mouth is a sentence I just typed, but if I had to watch it, you have to read it.

I have so much more I want to say. So much more I want to complain about. How the movie has like six different endings at the end, all serving to draw the movie out longer for another scene I didnt want to watch. I think at like the third one (where she traps the dog in the car and he shows up behind her) is the point where I checked to see how much was left because I was just going to shut it off if there was another 30 minutes. How the cops somehow came to the conclusion well this dude must be innocent even after finding what is pretty clearly a torture dungeon complete with several different types of restraints in his basement. How the dog is supposed to be the secondary villain here but all I could think of when he was scurrying down the vent was AW WHAT A BIG DROOLY CUTIE. Theres so much else here I want to say and make fun off, but I need to stop because my rambling has gone on for too long already and no one is reading this still. This is just such a weird movie that gets so many different things wrong that it almost feels like they mustve been trying. There are a couple of cool scenes and I will say it is at the very least memorable although for reasons I wish I could forget. But this is a bad horror movie. It fails to get the central conceit right and was about three times longer than it needed to be.

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FFDragon
05/19/22 5:55:08 PM
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Oh hey yes more like that


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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 5:57:20 PM
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Outlier
Tom Nook: 121
red13n: 85
Suprak: 78
Snake: 76
Plasmabeam: 76
PrinceKaro: 76
FFDragon: 67
jcgamer107: 62
Inviso: 51
fortybelowsummer: 46
thesmark: 37
rockus: 36
Lightning_Strikes: 31
BetrayedTangy: 30
Johnbobb: 29

Those holding their breath for a bigger shake-up may have to wait a bit longer, as despite some disparity here, this was one of the most consistently-ranked films of the list so far.

Next ranking later tonight.

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Lightning Strikes
05/19/22 5:59:26 PM
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I knew I should have said Dont Breathe. It was conspicuously absent from plasmas odds.

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Leafeon13N
05/19/22 6:00:14 PM
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"Don't Breathe" might be the worst title on the entire list.

It doesn't even have anything to do with anything. It isn't even just generic, it is just outright lying to you.
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Lightning Strikes
05/19/22 6:08:02 PM
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Things I love about these writeups:

-Suprak just referring to the heroic male lead as Clay from 13 Reasons Why which is also how I think of him.

-Multiple people pointing out how deranged it is that Dont Breathe 2 exists and the old man is the good guy.

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Leafeon13N
05/19/22 6:09:47 PM
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Lightning Strikes posted...


-Multiple people pointing out how deranged it is that Dont Breathe 2 exists and the old man is the good guy.
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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 6:10:35 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Wait what

Yup he's just a straight up good guy, no twist to it or anything.

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Suprak the Stud
05/19/22 6:12:12 PM
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Wait.

WHAT?

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BetrayedTangy
05/19/22 6:14:29 PM
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That's the main reason I refuse to watch the sequel. It's an interesting choice, but I literally wouldn't be able to take my mind off of it.

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Lightning Strikes
05/19/22 6:15:04 PM
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Its a very bad decision.

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Suprak the Stud
05/19/22 6:19:00 PM
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Unless the villain is an even older man with an even larger rape dungeon and an even more voluminous turkey baster full of semen, I cannot possibly imagine a way where that isn't the worst idea ever.

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FFDragon
05/19/22 6:20:51 PM
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spoilers

it is the worst idea ever

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TomNook
05/19/22 6:28:21 PM
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Blind Man did nothing wrong.

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BetrayedTangy
05/19/22 6:28:35 PM
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Yeah just read the summary on Wikipedia. Yikes

Looks like the old man found a young girl in a burned down building and took her in as his daughter, but it turns out the house burned down because of a meth lab explosion. However both of her parents survived and they want their daughter back to use her organs as a transplant for the mother whose organs were poisoned from the initial smoke. I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.

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05/19/22 6:36:10 PM
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A person who had this #20 gave it a 4/5, wow!

I liked the sequel. In fact I thought the prospect of cutting a girl's heart out of her chest while she's still alive to be even more fucked than the turkey baster scene. Similar formula - they set it up like this unimaginably horrific thing is about to happen, then at the last second it gets flipped around on the bad guys.

Leafeon13N posted...
"Don't Breathe" might be the worst title on the entire list.

It doesn't even have anything to do with anything. It isn't even just generic, it is just outright lying to you.
....I think it makes sense. Like, you have to be so quiet, you can't even breathe.

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Inviso
05/19/22 6:39:48 PM
#30:


I'm actually quite happy with that elimination. I think it's one of the ones where it ranked as high as it did because I really didn't care for the bottom portion of my list.

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 7:27:02 PM
#31:


As much as I loved Don't Breathe, I might love Suprak's commentary on it even more.

Snake5555555555 posted...
And I guess while Im on the subject of holy shit what the fuck, I should probably mention THE SCENE in this movie. I was neither frightened nor entertained by what I was watching here, but I will say this movie disturbed me more than any other film on the list, all thanks to a turkey baster and what can I only assume was weeks worth of masturbation. The whole twist of this movie is that the blind man is also a monster, and has the woman responsible for his daugthers death tied up in a room in his basement. How does a blind man who never leaves his house and would be useless navigating places he wasnt intimately familiar with manage to kidnap anyone? Great question, and the movie doesnt feel like answering it. Ill give the movie the benefit of the doubt and assume that she came to his house to apologize, but then that opens up the question of why dont the police check this place out? but I cant sit around focusing on all the ways the movie is dumb because I dont want to write out another six paragraphs.

Regardless, the SECOND TWIST is that this old dude is actually a SUPER MONSTER and had impregnated this woman for the sole purpose of giving him another kid. She dies because blind man wildly firing in the basement has consequences. The scene that Im going to remember, probably forever, from this movie is the one where he throws the main character in this weird harness, brings her off the ground, rips a hole in her pants, and the approaches her with a turkey baster FULL of blind old man semen to now get her pregnant as payback for the baby he accidentally killed because of her earlier. I was squirming this whole scene and had several different variations of holy shit what the fuck come out of my mouth. The scene winds up being capped off with what I can only describe as the HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK climax of this holy shit what the fuck movie, where Clay from 13 Reasons Why shows up and saves her, and she turns the tables on him by forcing him to deepthroat the turkey baster and squeezing until his own cum explodes from his mouth. I hate that forcing him to deepthroat the turkey baster and squeezing until his own cum explodes from his mouth is a sentence I just typed, but if I had to watch it, you have to read it.

Priceless. All of it. I'm not even angry that he ranked it so low or that the movie ranked 5-8 spots lower than I anticipated. Every word he typed out was worth it.

Snake5555555555 posted...
Suprak -

C-
This was, to me, the holy shit what the fuck movie on the list. We didnt have anything truly deranged like Human Centipede or anything like that, but this is the one that came closest for me. This isnt a movie I watched before, but I had heard mostly positive things from friends so it was one I was definitely interested in watching. Im now reevaluating those friendships.

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 7:30:14 PM
#32:


Lightning Strikes posted...
I knew I should have said Dont Breathe. It was conspicuously absent from plasmas odds.

Yeah, I totally thought people other than Tom Nook would enjoy it as much as I did. I generally hate the Haunted House subgenre, and Don't Breathe tipped it on its head in a lot of ways. That won me over, and the movie was flat-out gripping.

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 7:44:17 PM
#33:


Betting "Any Other Movie" paid off huge for Tangy, Inviso, and Wally.

Vegas Odds on #19:
+500: You're Next (2011)
+500: Happy Death Day (2017)
+500: Ready or Not (2019)
+750: Tucker & Dale vs. Evil (2010)
+750: Split (2016)
+1000: The Conjuring (2013)
+1000: It Follows (2014)
+1000: Us (2019)
+1500: The VVitch: A New-England Folktale (2015)
+1500: Green Room (2015)
+2000: Any other movie

Leaderboard:
  1. BetrayedTangy $2500 (Insidious 300, Sinister 200, Don't Breathe 2000)
  2. Inviso/Espeon $2250 (Creep 250, Don't Breathe 2000)
  3. jcgamer107 $2200 (Halloween 2000, Sinister 200)
  4. wallmasterz $2000 (Don't Breathe 2000)

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Johnbobb
05/19/22 8:07:21 PM
#34:


oh you don't even have to bet a specific other movie, just "Any other movie?"

ok I bet that every time from now on

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wallmasterz
05/19/22 8:34:24 PM
#35:


Can we get any bonus points for specifying which any other movie

also Im guessing any other movie

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jcgamer107
05/19/22 8:37:54 PM
#36:


jcgamer107 posted...
you're next, You're Next

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BetrayedTangy
05/19/22 8:47:29 PM
#37:


I'm going out on a limb here and am going to guess Train to Busan

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 8:50:00 PM
#38:


Johnbobb posted...
oh you don't even have to bet a specific other movie, just "Any other movie?"

ok I bet that every time from now on

Correct.

wallmasterz posted...
Can we get any bonus points for specifying which any other movie

also Im guessing any other movie

That's actually a good idea. If you guess "Any other movie" and get it right, I'll double the amount.

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plasmabeam
05/19/22 8:55:42 PM
#39:


Note the change to "Any other movie"

Vegas Odds on #19:
+500: You're Next (2011)
+500: Happy Death Day (2017)
+500: Ready or Not (2019)
+750: Tucker & Dale vs. Evil (2010)
+750: Split (2016)
+1000: The Conjuring (2013)
+1000: It Follows (2014)
+1000: Us (2019)
+1500: The VVitch: A New-England Folktale (2015)
+1500: Green Room (2015)
+2000: Any other movie (+4000 if you guess the exact movie correctly)

Leaderboard:
  1. BetrayedTangy $2500 (Insidious 300, Sinister 200, Don't Breathe 2000)
  2. Inviso/Espeon $2250 (Creep 250, Don't Breathe 2000)
  3. jcgamer107 $2200 (Halloween 2000, Sinister 200)
  4. wallmasterz $2000 (Don't Breathe 2000)


Current bets:
JohnRobert - Any other movie (none specified)
Wally - Any other movie (none specified)
jcgamer - You're Next
Tangy - Any other movie (Train to Busan)

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Blaziken
05/19/22 9:10:05 PM
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I'm going to guess Tucker & Dale this time.

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thesmark
05/19/22 10:10:37 PM
#41:


Argento Watch Update:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/5/AAMnSOAADP_p.jpg

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Suprak the Stud
05/19/22 10:15:40 PM
#42:


I'm actually surprised I wasn't more of an outlier on that one. I felt like it was going to be top 15 or so, at worst. I was the lowest ranker, but there were a ton of us bunched together sub-18 so it wasn't as controversial as I thought it would be.

plasmabeam posted...
As much as I loved Don't Breathe, I might love Suprak's commentary on it even more.

Priceless. All of it. I'm not even angry that he ranked it so low or that the movie ranked 5-8 spots lower than I anticipated. Every word he typed out was worth it.

Including ours, no doubt.

Haha no! This one at least had enough interesting stuff that I could see people liking it. The basement chase scene was incredibly well done, at the very least.

To me though, this had the most insane set up out of any movie. It sounds like the sequel was even more bizarre though. I had no plans to see it but now I kinda want to.

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Suprak the Stud
05/19/22 10:18:06 PM
#43:


Also, post 467:

Also I'm gonna take "the field" on this one. Mostly because I don't really have a guess for what's coming next.

I DEMAND MY FUN BUCKS

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wallmasterz
05/19/22 10:28:22 PM
#44:


Going to roll the dice on It as my specific movie guess

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Suprak the Stud
05/19/22 10:42:34 PM
#45:


I will once again take the field. I'm sure there are some weird low outliers out there still.

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Snake5555555555
05/19/22 10:55:01 PM
#46:


thesmark posted...
Argento Watch Update:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/5/AAMnSOAADP_p.jpg

Suspiria #1 as it should be!

Next ranking coming up real soon

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Snake5555555555
05/20/22 12:20:13 AM
#47:


19. The Conjuring (254 points, loses tiebreaker with an adjusted 221 points)

Why I Chose It: Remember when James Wan directed Insidious, influencing countless films & helping usher in a new breed of blockbuster horror for the decade to come? Well, this motherfucker did it again with The Conjuring, an even MORE successful blockbuster horror film, taking it to its logical conclusion - the massive cinematic universe, with each sequel and spin-off grossing high and influencing their own sub-set of films in their own right. Wan built The Conjuring into a franchise that you could call the "horror MCU", and is the second-highest grossing horror franchise of all time, and could be the first depending on how you categorize Godzilla. The Conjuring also brought higher and newfound attention to real-life paranormal cases, particularly those of relation to Ed and Lorraine Warren (the main protagonists of The Conjuring) and the doll Annabelle.

Tom Nook: 5
BetrayedTangy: 6
fortybelowsummer: 8
Inviso: 10
rockus: 13
PrinceKaro: 17
Snake: 17
red13n: 18
Suprak: 19
FFDragon: 20
jcgamer107: 21
Lightning Strikes: 21
thesmark: 24
Plasmabeam: 27
Johnbobb: 28

Tom Nook - This is the highest ranking film of the ones I hadn't seen prior to this project, and very a pleasant surprise! I know this is a very popular film, but I just never got around to it because supernatural haunting films are usually among my least favorite types of horror films. This avoided all the junk that I normally dislike in them, especially the situation where the supernatural can do anything and everything with unclear rules. In this, Patrick Wilson's character was an expert who knew all the ins and outs, and the supernatural didn't break the established film rules; there weren't vague powers that could do anything. The evil's strategy is to break down people with fear, then possess them once they are weak--Great! Of course overcoming the pitfall that many supernatural films fall into is only one aspect of this being good. This also had very nice pacing and buildup, where the escalation felt natural, and not blowing its momentum on stupid things like dream sequences just so they have an excuse for early jump scares. The movie also made the transition where the characters accept paranormal at a good pace too, without going through the song and dance of "that can't be real", which, while realistic, has made it a tiring mandatory part of these films a lot of times. I think by introducing "the experts" as leads at the beginning, it allowed us to get into that transition more seamlessly, rather than sometimes taking well over an hour before they'd show up. And speaking of them, I also liked ALL the characters, which made me feel more invested. The whole family was likable, and Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga were a great duo. My only real gripe with this movie is that the exorcism scene near the end felt too over the top. I think if that had been toned down, just even a bit, I'd probably have put this movie 1 or 2 spots higher! But it was a really great one!

BetrayedTangy - To me The Conjuring is James Wans best movie. Sure, it might not have the insanity of Malignant or the sheer brutality of Saw, but it manages to be an incredible thrill ride from start to finish. The scares are all incredibly paced, well thought out and even implement a cool use of Chekovs Gun here and there. Things like Cindys sleepwalking, the clapping game, even the Warrens trophy room are all used to great effect later in the movie and it just enhances the scares. I also enjoy the Warrens overall story arc here. Theyre established as pretty likable, but still have that sense of arrogance about them. Which makes it hit even harder when we get to see what theyre up against and how Lorraine reacts to it. The technical aspects are also a ton of fun. I love how during the night, when the ghosts start coming out, the camera wastes no time jumping from one scare to another. It creates such a great sense of panic and really puts you in the shoes of the characters. Then the static shots add to it even more, the way the camera lingers on an unnerving shot before hitting you with the jump scare. Its classic horror bread and butter, but its done so well and so frequently that it just doesnt lose its luster and keeps you engaged until the credits roll. One of my favorites for sure.

Fortybelowsummer - I was aware of the Warrens well before The Conjuring came out and their stories single-handedly made me believe in at least the possibility of ghosts being real. Thats why this film is so effective because it really is based on a true story. Of course, it has its Hollywood embellishments, but you cant deny the power it has being rooted in reality. James Wan proves how badass he really is by evolving beyond the torture-porn of Saw and providing a lot of old school chills. While it takes a while to get going and the ending is fairly weak, this is still one of the most important horror movies of all time. It spawned a whole universe (with not always great entries, but still) and remains highly influential.

Inviso - So early in the list, and Ive already had several house possessed by demonic entity movies. But for what it is (and for the fact that I remember the early 2010s, when all those movies came out), the Conjuring does an extremely good job of setting up suspense and really keeping the fear elements going right away in the film. The film has some jump scares (namely the basement clapping scene and the leap from atop the wardrobe), but overall, theres just more tension and spookiness than anything. Its hard to describe; I just think the pacing is solid in this film, and it builds the fear in a solid way. The Annabelle stuff feels a bit tacked on in this film, but whatever. Overall, the film just works for what its going for.

Rockus - I think this largely works because of how much it commits to being a pretty traditional haunted house style horror movie. Even when it delivers some jump scares that tend to be undeserved in this kind of thing it establishes itself through a tried and true setup and payoff method. It kind of loses me a little in the over the top CG heavy finale but I was mostly won over by the time that rolls around anyway. Established a pretty decent mid-tier franchise, the kind of thing that delivers pretty regularly but never one of the best films of the year or anything.

PrinceKaro - A family is haunted by the spirit of a vengeful witch in a decent enough haunted house/possession film that plays it incredibly safe and hits all the marks that have been hit a million times before.

Things go bump in the night. Paranormal investigators are called in. An exorcism is performed. The story is always interesting, but the plot is paint by numbers and had weirdness like this thing with the evil doll that they kept pushing but ultimately went nowhere and I am like what is even the point of this being in the movie? Did somebody think they didn't have nearly enough overused horror elements in their film as is?

The only thing that needs to be conjured up here is some originality.


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05/20/22 12:22:40 AM
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Snake - It took me a long time to really warm up to this film. I first wrote it off back in 2013 for feeling generic, overdone, and boring. I thought the film was going to focus more on Annabelle and I was also severely disappointed (then they actually made an Annabelle film and for at least the first one, you get what you asked for :/). I digress. I had revisited it some years later, and the film finally clicked with me. I better understood its ambitions. Its a real horror films horror film. Its a very quintessentially tropey movie but it does everything really well and it being set in the 70s gives it a sense of vintage class. Its a film all about ghosts and demons and witches and a clairvoyant in a haunted house and what should be tired is elevated by James Wans sense of direction with an epic sense of scale and consequence. By the ending, I really feel this is the Marvel'' of horror, everyone in the cast is giving it their all, theres quips and humor, the Warrens feel like superheroes exorcising this dangerous demon-ghost-witch, theres loud-noises and everything is rumbling and shaking and its exciting and epic and not really frightening per se but its something an audience can easily connect and get into and feel the fear anyway. Just a really solid horror film I feel more respect towards everytime I re-evaluate it.

Red13n - Family moves into a cursed house, hires some professional demon uhh, trackers or whatever, and then is left stranded because the Catholic Church is a horribly inept organization that really should be forced to pay taxes. Some of the tracking of the ghost or demons or whatever is actually kind of clever and interesting, though the subplot of the turmoil of the professional demon people ends up falling really flat. They were literally depending on the church to do it when apparently they could just have done it themselves the whole time. Like many movies on this list, don't think about it too hard.

Suprak - C+
The Conjuring was another movie I had seen before starting this project, and I was already aware going into it that this would probably not be cracking my top half. I couldnt quite remember why I didnt like it that much, which is honestly probably one of the main issues I had with it. I barely remembered anything about it, and after my rewatch I kinda see why. There are horror movies that stick with you and then there are horror movies that pass right by, and The Conjuring is absolutely in that second bucket for me. There are some good occasional scares, sure, and some interesting cinematography, but something about the film overall just doesnt work for me like a lot of others on this list.

One of the biggest issues is the nagging sense of familiarity. Say what you will about some of these other movies, but almost all the others on this list felt at the very least unique. I feel like Ive seen The Conjuring like six other times by now, and I feel like Ive seen it done better six other times (including by a couple of other movies on this list!). Evil house/demon/Satan haunts and possesses the family is something that felt a bit stale by the 80s. I feel like one of the worst things a horror movie can be is formulaic, and of all the horror films on this list I think this might be the most predictable. There is no subverting genre tropes or anything unexpected about the storytelling here. This is by the book (assuming the book is an upside down flaming bible, of course) and you just sort of know what is going to happen right from the start of the film.

I also wasnt particularly crazy about the non-horror parts of the film. Like when the movie is doing scary stuff, I feel like thats when it is at its most competent. But any really good horror movie has interesting stuff around that scary stuff, and it tends to be what separates an ok horror film from a great one. The lives of Ed and Lorraine and the family life of Perron family fall flat and I honestly just didnt care what happened to them. I kept getting Ned Flanders vibes from everyone, sort of generic good person without really anything interesting about their personalities. Like, these guys are just here so scary stuff can jump out at them and yell BOO and honestly Im not sure I could do a good job describing the various characters in anyway that wasnt basically just who the actor was that played them or what they looked like. The Ed and Lorraine stuff in particularly I just wasnt interested in it. They have all these scenes with them in colleges and college students are like well what do you call this demon and then Ed mugs at the camera and is like JUST DONT CALL THEM LATE TO DINNER HYUK and everyone laughs like theyre some hugely charismatic couple but I never got that from them. It was like if the Carol and Mike Brady decided to take up fighting demons on the weekend and I feel like a lot of the later scenes in the movie wouldve resonated better if these two in particular werent so painfully dull.

The only reason this movie is as high as it is is because I feel like it actually doesnt a genuinely good job with the horror scenes. There are a lot of great moments here, and I feel like I appreciated them more on the rewatch partially because I went in with very low expectations. But, like that scene where the mom is lighting matches and the little boy ghost is playing hide and clap, that sticks out to me as one of the better jump scares on the list. You are expecting the mom to light the candle and then the ghost be there looking at her, so when the hands emerge from behind here and clap instead, that is the kind of misdirect I love in movies like this. Then you have stuff like that sheet getting blown off by the wind, catching on a form, and flying up to the window, or the creepy witch woman materializing on top of the dresser to attack the daughter there are a handful of examples of them doing a good job setting up a legitimate scare and following through on it. Theres a lot I dont like about The Conjuring as a movie, but at the very least I feel like it is competent with the horror part of the film, which is honestly the most important thing to get right anyway.

FFDragon - Somehow works for a horror movie where no one actually dies.

Jcgamer107 - I remember this being pretty intense to watch in the theater - then I quickly forgot about it and never really got the urge to watch it again. Some solid scares though, and the way the camera moves through the house almost makes it feel like a thrill ride.

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Snake5555555555
05/20/22 12:23:08 AM
#49:


Lightning Strikes - Want to play hide and clap?

There are in my opinion three defining sub-types of horror film of the last decade: low budget Blumhouse-style horror thrillers, genre-blending films, and what Ill call blockbuster horror - large scale, mass audience thrill rides. Although there are better examples of this, the Conjuring is probably the first really successful example of this in the 2010s, not the deepest film ever but it is an exciting thrill ride that feels like it has ten times the budget it does.

Overall theres not much to say about The Conjuring. Its a really effective, fun horror film. It uses its scares effectively and never lets up the tension. It also has a likeable cast with a strong relationship at its core between Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmigas characters. It even manages to make jump scares fun by deploying some creative ones. If theres an issue with this film its that it is not terribly memorable likely as a result of how conventional it is. However, while its not the most original film it is a thoroughly enjoyable one Id recommend to almost anybody.

4/5

Biggest scare: The second hide and clap scene is chilling, and a fantastic example of how to do jump scares right at a time when they were typically a sign of a bad film.

thesmark - Outside of a very good 15 minutes or so at the end and a nice dynamic between Wilson and Farmega, Im very surprised that this movie did so insanely well, making $320 million WW and spawning an (as of now) 8-film franchise. Its exceedingly competent, but Im looking for more creative or visually memorable setpieces and scares than we got. I like that they mostly stuck with practical effects and makeup vs. CGI, but the first hour is tedious with few scares and the character development/world building for the Warrens is alright but nothing that made me want to see more of them beyond this movie. Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga are the best thing here, they have a genuine sense of history between them, but it basically hits the beats youd expect. I warmed up to it more towards the end, but I wouldnt call myself a fan.

Plasmabeam - Another yawner of a haunted house story. It has great production values, but the story itself is something Ive seen a million times before.

Johnbobb - I've seen this movie maybe three times now and can still barely remember it. It's some legitimately creepy cinematography paired with hundreds of mind-numbing jump scares and inconsistent "rules" revolving around the movie's big bad ghosty. The idea of a horror extended universe is honestly pretty compelling and potentially groundbreaking, and it's honestly kind of a shame this is the one we ended up with.

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Snake5555555555
05/20/22 12:31:17 AM
#50:


Outlier
Tom Nook: 135
red13n: 86
Plasmabeam: 84
PrinceKaro: 78
Snake: 78
Suprak: 78
FFDragon: 68
jcgamer107: 64
Inviso: 60
fortybelowsummer: 57
BetrayedTangy: 43
thesmark: 42
rockus: 42
Johnbobb: 38
Lightning_Strikes: 33

Plasma takes the third place spot and looking to exorcise red from the second place spot next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wOWlKi4gI

Next ranking should be at normal time in the afternoon. What film won the tiebreaker? Tune in tomorrow and find out!

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