Poll of the Day > Kotaku upsets Game Developer after referencing his race for reason.

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STEROLIZER
05/19/22 4:48:30 AM
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Was Kotaku being racist?


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/2/AABajLAADPyK.jpg

https://twitter.com/stephen_ddungu/status/1526674934923157511?s=21&t=FpJQNJ3ryY8U2y2CybejcQ

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Lokarin
05/19/22 4:50:06 AM
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r/kotakuinaction

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STEROLIZER
05/19/22 4:52:54 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/4/AABajLAADPyM.jpg

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Revelation34
05/19/22 6:26:45 AM
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He should sue.

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Metalsonic66
05/19/22 7:33:24 AM
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lolKotaku

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adjl
05/19/22 8:46:04 AM
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Racist? I wouldn't say so. Capitalizing on his race for the sake of scoring bonus points for covering this "poor, oppressed black developer who wouldn't have a voice if not for us"? Pretty obviously.

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TheNewOcelot902
05/19/22 8:55:18 AM
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Not cool. They should have told him first what the article was going to look like before they published it.
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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 8:56:45 AM
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adjl posted...
Racist? I wouldn't say so. Capitalizing on his race for the sake of scoring bonus points for covering this "poor, oppressed black developer who wouldn't have a voice if not for us"? Pretty obviously.

Id call it racist. Theyre discriminating against his right to just be called a game developer. They wouldnt have done this if the developer had been white or any other race most likely.

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RedSox342
05/19/22 9:00:34 AM
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Not racist, they called a black guy a black guy

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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 9:06:09 AM
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RedSox342 posted...
Not racist, they called a black guy a black guy

when you pass a black dude in the street do you stop to remind him that hes black

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RedSox342
05/19/22 9:15:04 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
when you pass a black dude in the street do you stop to remind him that hes black

Naturally.

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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 9:16:35 AM
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RedSox342 posted...
Naturally.

i respect it

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Kyuubi4269
05/19/22 9:30:16 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...


Id call it racist. Theyre discriminating against his right to just be called a game developer. They wouldnt have done this if the developer had been white or any other race most likely.

Nobody has a right to be called just anything, and race is ALWAYS brought up when it's convenient to bringing about outrage/controversy, including white. Remember the "white nationalist" shooter who ended up not being white? It's easy bait, more views, more clicks.

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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 9:33:45 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Nobody has a right to be called just anything, and race is ALWAYS brought up when it's convenient to bringing about outrage/controversy, including white. Remember the "white nationalist" shooter who ended up not being white? It's easy bait, more views, more clicks.

this might blow your mind but Im of them opinion that being racist is a bad thing, and that includes being racist against a white

people need to just chill and stop being weird about race

everyone eats food. Every race. So everyone just eat food and chill tf out. Thats the mandate.

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Revelation34
05/19/22 9:37:42 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...


when you pass a black dude in the street do you stop to remind him that hes black


https://www.yahoo.com/video/did-not-state-person-white-124600889.html

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Kyuubi4269
05/19/22 9:42:20 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...


this might blow your mind but Im of them opinion that being racist is a bad thing, and that includes being racist against a white

people need to just chill and stop being weird about race

everyone eats food. Every race. So everyone just eat food and chill tf out. Thats the mandate.

Unfortunately, racism still is a thing, and Kotaku is a business. If pandering to that is profitable, that is their prerogative. Everybody eats food, so it's in a businesses prerogative to use food to make money, and companies will leverage that; see Costco hotdogs.

For businesses to not reference something, it has to not be beneficial to them.

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Adam_Savage
05/19/22 9:43:31 AM
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who is this tc

who are these two random ass accounts

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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 9:47:26 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Unfortunately, racism still is a thing, and Kotaku is a business. If pandering to that is profitable, that is their prerogative. Everybody eats food, so it's in a businesses prerogative to use food to make money, and companies will leverage that; see Costco hotdogs.

For businesses to not reference something, it has to not be beneficial to them.

what the fuck is your point even

its ok the business WAS MOTIVATED to act like assholes, financially!

who gives a fuck

Revelation34 posted...
https://www.yahoo.com/video/did-not-state-person-white-124600889.html

Rev why the fuck would anyone give a rats ass about what is happening in an utter shithole like Scottsdale

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adjl
05/19/22 9:51:14 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Unfortunately, racism still is a thing, and Kotaku is a business. If pandering to that is profitable, that is their prerogative. Everybody eats food, so it's in a businesses prerogative to use food to make money, and companies will leverage that; see Costco hotdogs.

For businesses to not reference something, it has to not be beneficial to them.

And criticizing them and holding them accountable for their decisions helps to prevent it from being beneficial.

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RedSox342
05/19/22 10:03:04 AM
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Adam_Savage posted...
who is this tc

who are these two random ass accounts

IVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN U BUDDY

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Kyuubi4269
05/19/22 10:19:36 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
who gives a fuck

They don't, and neither do their readers, which is the point.

adjl posted...
And criticizing them and holding them accountable for their decisions helps to prevent it from being beneficial.

If you're not a consumer, no, it doesn't. They can and will comfortably ignore you as you aren't involved in their profit margins. If anything, you're publicising them. People who don't want their content will continue to not consume it, and those who do will become aware of it if they weren't already.

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mharbenedict34
05/19/22 10:22:04 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
when you pass a black dude in the street do you stop to remind him that hes black
Or when you see a wheel chair person do you ask him to stand up?

There are certain codes and behaviors good people follow. Kotaku is trying to start a race war.
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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 11:35:00 AM
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mharbenedict34 posted...
Or when you see a wheel chair person do you ask him to stand up?

There are certain codes and behaviors good people follow. Kotaku is trying to start a race war.

please elaborate on the Kotaku race war

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Blightzkrieg
05/19/22 11:38:30 AM
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RedSox342 posted...
Not racist, they called a black guy a black guy
"Black guy says the rich should not exist after being nailed to a cross and dying for three days"

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Conner4REAL
05/19/22 12:36:59 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
when you pass a black dude in the street do you stop to remind him that hes black

they werent writing the article to inform him. So pointing out to the guy directly isnt a good analogy.

a necessary piece of information (his race)?
no.

racist?
no.

his race has as much to do with the story as does his hairstyle or which way his penis curves.

unessecary descriptive term =/= racism unless its specifically used in a deragoatory and insulting manner.

which it wasnt here it was meant to inform about a developer.

this is the same as if you saw a black guy walking down the street drinking a double expresso then you turn to your friend and say?

that black guy I just saw drinking an expresso made me want one. Lets go get one anyplace except Starbucks because Starbucks is terrible and tastes like fecal matter.

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Adam_Savage
05/19/22 12:57:55 PM
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RedSox342 posted...


IVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN U BUDDY

doubt

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STEROLIZER
05/19/22 1:02:38 PM
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His game is really cool BTW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eup-g3CxxFc

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RedSox342
05/19/22 1:03:15 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
doubt

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STEROLIZER
05/19/22 1:03:26 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
when you pass a black dude in the street do you stop to remind him that hes black

Holy shit. That's a comment XD

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STEROLIZER
05/19/22 1:07:29 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
who is this tc

who are these two random ass accounts

Who?

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adjl
05/19/22 1:17:58 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
If you're not a consumer, no, it doesn't.

Sure it can. Bad PR is bad PR. Its entire audience doesn't necessarily need to be a potential customer to see an impact from it.

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Kyuubi4269
05/19/22 1:49:52 PM
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adjl posted...


Sure it can. Bad PR is bad PR. Its entire audience doesn't necessarily need to be a potential customer to see an impact from it.

You're not wrong, but considering how trivial the complaint is, you're advertising to their sponsors and potential sponsors that they know how to make otherwise small articles in to viral viewership. This is ideal for advertisers, so without a real attachment to racism (which saying someone's race neutrally isn't), it's a benefit.

Remember that shitholes like Fox can get a lot of advertisers and viewers, people can talk all kinds of shit about it but it remains wildly profitable while being much more egrigious.

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adjl
05/19/22 2:04:19 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
You're not wrong, but considering how trivial the complaint is, you're advertising to their sponsors and potential sponsors that they know how to make otherwise small articles in to viral viewership. This is ideal for advertisers, so without a real attachment to racism (which saying someone's race neutrally isn't), it's a benefit.

Remember that shitholes like Fox can get a lot of advertisers and viewers, people can talk all kinds of shit about it but it remains wildly profitable while being much more egrigious.

Indeed, but I'm still inclined to criticize it regardless of how likely that criticism is to make a meaningful difference.

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I'd call it "race-baiting."

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STEROLIZER
05/19/22 2:09:29 PM
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When I first read this article (popped in my Google News Feed) I thought the name of the development company was literally "Black" -- like it was an LLC or something. I google to try and figure that out immediately brought me to the Dev's Twitter where he was like "I didn't agree to this shit!"

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Adam_Savage
05/19/22 3:55:56 PM
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RedSox342 posted...


Name RedSox342
Member Since June 8th, 2009 (12 years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/7gLVaUA.png

since you think account creation date matters for some reason

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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 3:58:34 PM
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who is this helly person

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adjl
05/19/22 4:04:57 PM
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I've certainly never heard of him.

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Final Fantasy2389
05/19/22 4:06:47 PM
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So, I have an issue with his statement.
How does he know they specifically went back to reshoot the music fighting scene in November 2021? Is there proof of this or is he just making a claim? Reshoots happen all the time. Even months after filming has "wrapped."

And while his game looks cool, and I'm gonna look into it further, it looks like he took inspiration from Doctor Strange and how he forms his magic and portals in the first place.

Not saying he's wrong, btw, maybe they did. I just want the proof and not just his claim.

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Adam_Savage
05/19/22 4:28:44 PM
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it's not really a secret, that movie had tons, and tons of reshoots in november

https://screenrant.com/doctor-strange-2-reshoots-filming-update-details/

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VampireCoyote
05/19/22 5:15:32 PM
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and it wasnt very good

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Final Fantasy2389
05/19/22 5:16:31 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
it's not really a secret, that movie had tons, and tons of reshoots in november

https://screenrant.com/doctor-strange-2-reshoots-filming-update-details/
That wasn't at all what I was asking.

But I did find these two articles:

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/dr-strange-2-music-fight-sam-raimis-idea/
https://www.cbr.com/doctor-strange-2-musical-fight-reshoots/

So, who knows what happened. It could just be mere coincidence but it could also be Sam saw the game and wanted to implement that into Doctor Strange. We'll probably never know.

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Metalsonic66
05/19/22 5:17:10 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
and it wasnt very good
It was excellent

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sull56ivan2010
05/19/22 5:20:09 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
https://i.imgur.com/7gLVaUA.png

since you think account creation date matters for some reason
Who's alt are you? Since it seems obvious with your karma and account creation date.

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RedSox342
05/19/22 5:21:34 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
https://i.imgur.com/7gLVaUA.png

since you think account creation date matters for some reason

ok random whoever tf you are


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Maximoom
05/19/22 6:09:59 PM
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IMO it was obviously racist, there was no reason whatsoever to describe that person by his skin color just to clickbait.
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Adam_Savage
05/19/22 7:28:43 PM
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sull56ivan2010 posted...

Who's alt are you? Since it seems obvious with your karma and account creation date.

y'know, i wonder

might be some clues in that image

RedSox342 posted...


ok random whoever tf you are



don't bring it up if you can't handle losing

but it doesn't matter, i know who you are again thanks to the archives, and you're re-tagged

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RedSox342
05/19/22 9:31:05 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
don't bring it up if you can't handle losing

but it doesn't matter, i know who you are again thanks to the archives, and you're re-tagged

i lost?

L....

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