Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 3 - Revenge of the Scum

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 5:51:26 PM
#201:


So let's see 19 not me players, 5 scum left

Town
Plum
Corrik
Isquen
Sultan
Hb
Kirby
Death

Scum
Ben
Lea

Leaves

Sbell
Red
AV
mzero
Jc
Scare
Arti
Igcd
Ulti
Chang

3/10 scum there if everything is right and a lot of town leans to start me off

Hmm. Potentially productive day.


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PunishedBen
05/17/22 5:52:17 PM
#202:


Chang still super town

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 5:52:42 PM
#203:


Corrik7 posted...
Red is town if Sheep is scum btw

Sheep making that claim means he was prepared to be bussed imo if this is post claim thoughts.

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changmas
05/17/22 5:53:57 PM
#204:


Red is not clear if Sheep flips scum.

Red is the only person (thus far) who claims to be a Pokemon character and a town member and I will not be forgetting that fact if my League of Villainous Pokemon theory starts getting some hard evidence behind it.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 5:54:17 PM
#205:


PunishedBen posted...
Chang still super town

You said that about sheep too. In fact you even went against me to say that. Oops.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 5:55:09 PM
#206:


(I am a town lean on chang I am just mocking scum ben)

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Hbthebattle
05/17/22 5:55:53 PM
#207:


changmas posted...
Red is not clear if Sheep flips scum.

Red is the only person (thus far) who claims to be a Pokemon character and a town member and I will not be forgetting that fact if my League of Villainous Pokemon theory starts getting some hard evidence behind it.
If the scum was all Pokemon characters, they'd see from their fakeclaims list that all of town are star wars characters. There'd be no reason for any member of scum to admit that in that case.

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Corrik7
05/17/22 5:57:02 PM
#208:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Sheep making that claim means he was prepared to be bussed imo if this is post claim thoughts.
It's reds response to me that makes him town.

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changmas
05/17/22 5:57:12 PM
#209:


Hbthebattle posted...
If the scum was all Pokemon characters, they'd see from their fakeclaims list that all of town are star wars characters. There'd be no reason for any member of scum to admit that in that case.

it's always logic and quality reasoning that shut down the most fun we can have :/

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 5:57:40 PM
#210:


Corrik7 posted...
It's reds response to me that makes him town.

Quote it please?

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PunishedBen
05/17/22 5:58:38 PM
#211:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
You said that about sheep too. In fact you even went against me to say that. Oops.
>_> now you're just being mean. Chang was the first to bring up the flavor and is still watching claims to judge against his own. I just don't think scum touches that subject until more information comes out

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htaeD
05/17/22 5:58:48 PM
#212:


So what about Sultan, would Sheep as scum make Sultan play that silly 'vote death' game if Sultan were scum too?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 5:59:51 PM
#213:


htaeD posted...
So what about Sultan, would Sheep as scum make Sultan play that silly 'vote death' game if Sultan were scum too?

Nope

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Arti
05/17/22 6:02:23 PM
#214:


##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

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Fastbreak
05/17/22 6:04:11 PM
#215:


Hold on Chris

There was so much shit talked about me last game for lynching the cop

Why is it okay to lynch the tracker claim?

This is not about sheep this is about why it's suddenly a good move

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Kirby321
05/17/22 6:04:15 PM
#216:


PunishedBen posted...
Scroll back like one page from that question. I didn't answer because it's right there. It was in the post where he first voted me I think

Fair. It took me a while to find it, but I did find where he stated that you never said Sultan was Town on Day 1 in previous games.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:04:28 PM
#217:


Fastbreak posted...
Hold on Chris

There was so much shit talked about me last game for lynching the cop

Why is it okay to lynch the tracker claim?

This is not about sheep this is about why it's suddenly a good move

The counterclaim

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Fastbreak
05/17/22 6:05:33 PM
#218:


Oh. Well that's pretty different yes

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:05:54 PM
#219:


Hmm jury is out on Lea and Arti...
Sheep seemed to mostly waffle on giving a solid read on either

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Fastbreak
05/17/22 6:05:55 PM
#220:


Is there any context for why arti is here for lopen

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PunishedBen
05/17/22 6:06:06 PM
#221:


Fastbreak posted...
Hold on Chris

There was so much shit talked about me last game for lynching the cop

Why is it okay to lynch the tracker claim?

This is not about sheep this is about why it's suddenly a good move
I'd probably be more hesitant if sheep hadn't seemingly vanished right after the counter

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:06:16 PM
#222:


Fastbreak posted...
Is there any context for why arti is here for lopen

Lopen cited he had something come up and might replace.

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:06:34 PM
#223:


Cops are clearly cursed

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/17/22 6:06:52 PM
#224:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
The counterclaim
Why not kill Ben 1st? Their is a small chance they are 2 town trackers but I know you think sheep is scum prior to claim and such

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:07:36 PM
#225:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Why not kill Ben 1st? Their is a small chance they are 2 town trackers but I know you think sheep is scum prior to claim and such

I mean if you guys get the votes for Ben that would amuse me. But in general since sheep literally stopped posting you take the literal confirmed scum

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:07:44 PM
#226:


PunishedBen posted...

I'd probably be more hesitant if sheep hadn't seemingly vanished right after the counter

I am sure you're giving him a dressing down for that right now!

Sorry I shouldnt be too mean

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/17/22 6:08:21 PM
#227:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I mean if you guys get the votes for Ben that would amuse me. But in general since sheep literally stopped posting you take the literal confirmed scum

Fair enough just curious why we wouldn't weed out the claim but youre right about the vanish by sheep

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:09:50 PM
#228:


By the way anyone on my ??? Is a good scan target. Scanners should pick whichever ones they are least sure about or think may be scum and go from there. Ben and Lea won't need powers to sort out imo.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/17/22 6:11:54 PM
#229:


The thing about Ben the most i think is scum is contradictions of himself and changing his story's.

Like example he brought up chang being town for questioning the flavor and he also questioning the flavor and then I theorize the flavor i " feel for his trap"
And pointed out he said the same thing and he was like oh I dont count.

Plus changed his story on his Sultan hasnt immediately confirmed himself town thing

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Obellisk
05/17/22 6:12:04 PM
#230:


changmas posted...
4 town claims, all star wars characters. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I have things to say on this. but not today

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:12:36 PM
#231:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
The thing about Ben the most i think is scum is contradictions of himself and changing his story's.

Like example he brought up chang being town for questioning the flavor and he also questioning the flavor and then I theorize the flavor i " feel for his trap"
And pointed out he said the same thing and he was like oh I dont count.

Plus changed his story on his Sultan hasnt immediately confirmed himself town thing

Indeed. Also let me pull up a sheep post

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Obellisk
05/17/22 6:12:38 PM
#232:


ok to vote?

I'm good with sheep.

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:13:09 PM
#233:


I do like Isquen for putting Sheep in his scummish pile
'bad list' indeed

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:14:57 PM
#234:


Sheep007 posted...
I think he stumbled over himself a fair bit and got caught up in semantics, but I don't think I can take much from that other than he felt he was under pressure from you. I haven't thought Ben was highly Town once in early D1 since mafia restarted, and that's not changed this game, but I don't take particular issue with any of what he said.

Sheep007 posted...
Frankly, I don't think Ben is great under pressure. He usually jumps all over the place a lot before landing on something that makes everyone go "oh yeah he's Town". I think his reaction isn't great, but nothing about it makes me wanna go "fuck fuck kill it with fire" either. We're in a position where I feel like your questioning of Ben is very pro-town and I'm content to let it flow as it will unless something that makes me wanna full-on murder him or say he's Town comes up.

I'll admit I'm struggling a fair bit to find scum reads this game - I feel decent about the most active players, and nobody has caught my eye so badly as to make me wanna murder them. I think the only post all game that made me think "yo wtf is up with that" was Plum's vote - probably not helped by my being asleep during highest activity rn, since I get a lot of my reads from interaction. I'm happy with my little collection of townreads so far, and I'm hoping I'll be able to build some strong scumreads when we get more info towards the end of the day.


These posts feel like many words saying nothing about Ben. Like. Just doing his best to give me nothing.


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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:17:06 PM
#235:


Does anyone have any questions for me? Given sheep was content to say he would revisit me day 2 I am very unlikely going to see that day 2 so ask now for my thoughts.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/17/22 6:17:15 PM
#236:


Alright sure let's go sheep

##unvote
##Vote:Sheep


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PunishedBen
05/17/22 6:18:09 PM
#237:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
The thing about Ben the most i think is scum is contradictions of himself and changing his story's.

Like example he brought up chang being town for questioning the flavor and he also questioning the flavor and then I theorize the flavor i " feel for his trap"
And pointed out he said the same thing and he was like oh I dont count.

Plus changed his story on his Sultan hasnt immediately confirmed himself town thing
The SECOND person to bring up the flavor doesnt get the read of being the FIRST person to bring up the flavor. That is the whole point.

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:19:05 PM
#239:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Does anyone have any questions for me? Given sheep was content to say he would revisit me day 2 I am very unlikely going to see that day 2 so ask now for my thoughts.


Whats your take on Scare and Ulti liking Sheep?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:19:22 PM
#240:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Do you think all the people listing me as scum are actually town?

I don't know who is listing you as scum but if rheu are on my town list I gave 100% yes

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PunishedBen
05/17/22 6:19:36 PM
#241:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
The thing about Ben the most i think is scum is contradictions of himself and changing his story's.

Like example he brought up chang being town for questioning the flavor and he also questioning the flavor and then I theorize the flavor i " feel for his trap"
And pointed out he said the same thing and he was like oh I dont count.

Plus changed his story on his Sultan hasnt immediately confirmed himself town thing
Oh but the trap thing was way more of a joke than the town trap Chang fell into

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:20:11 PM
#243:


htaeD posted...
Whats your take on Scare and Ulti liking Sheep?

Ulti is an uh oh and scare has been off lately but still an uh oh but the way sheep interacted with me about scare felt different than Ben so maybe scare is ok. Ulti should be scanned maybe

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:20:53 PM
#244:


But also actually I do love ulti's town read of plum early to contrast with sheep's bad read so maybe those two aren't compatible on a tram

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:22:06 PM
#245:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Its basically the entire game, which is honestly hilarious. Im the easiest town read of them all.


Psh, I havent even bothered to get a read on you yet

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Fastbreak
05/17/22 6:24:40 PM
#247:


Okay I went and found the counter

My (bad) meta says HB is legit. I don't think Asoka is a safe list type of claim. Beyond of course just the counted period

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htaeD
05/17/22 6:25:03 PM
#248:


I do wonder if a scumLea would invent a 'funny' reason to vote Sheep when she knows how good she could look if she actually voted him seriously

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DoomTheGyarados
05/17/22 6:26:02 PM
#249:


htaeD posted...
I do wonder if a scumLea would invent a 'funny' reason to vote Sheep when she knows how good she could look if she actually voted him seriously

Let's not delve into that level of wifom and get lost

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changmas
05/17/22 6:26:47 PM
#250:


alright it's getting to be about that time

##Vote: Sheep (or should I say, Wooloo)

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