Current Events > TEEP plays DANGANRONPA 2: Goodbye Dis Bear *progressive spoilers*

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teep_
05/19/22 2:40:55 PM
#152:


I love it when protagonists of a previous instalment show up unexpectedly as the Big Good in the sequel

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The Popo
05/19/22 3:01:19 PM
#153:


teep_ posted...
I love it when protagonists of a previous instalment show up unexpectedly as the Big Good in the sequel

I loved that moment

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teep_
05/19/22 3:04:30 PM
#154:


Hopefully this time it's the real one


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teep_
05/19/22 3:52:07 PM
#155:


roll credits


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teep_
05/19/22 3:59:26 PM
#156:


write up coming soon. but the ending was kino and the game in general was great. now I just need to recover lol

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kirbymuncher
05/19/22 4:08:14 PM
#157:


teep_ posted...
I fail to see the parallels between Makoto and Nagito,
in japanese his name is an anagram of "I am makoto naegi"

like obviously since you're done you know it's all just red herring stuff but I think it's pretty funny how hard they pushed this

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DeadBankerDream
05/19/22 4:33:16 PM
#158:


My only real problem with the ending is that the conclusion is a complete power of friendship asspull that makes no sense and just happens cause it happens. I mostly ignore it because what the ending does in focusing on Hajime and the other characters to a lesser extent is so good. I even don't mind the return of big boobie Junko for the same reason. Not having to set up a new villain makes it easier to focus on Hajime.

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LinkFanatic
05/20/22 12:10:26 AM
#159:


teep_ posted...
write up coming soon. but the ending was kino and the game in general was great. now I just need to recover lol

You gonna do the third one at some point?

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teep_
05/20/22 5:00:16 AM
#160:


LinkFanatic posted...
You gonna do the third one at some point?
I will, and it'll be soon-ish too. If I do it straight away, then from experience I'll get burned out and drop it for a year or so. That's why I want to get a "palate cleanser" in before I come back to Danganronpa

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LinkFanatic
05/20/22 6:16:44 AM
#161:


teep_ posted...
I will, and it'll be soon-ish too. If I do it straight away, then from experience I'll get burned out and drop it for a year or so. That's why I want to get a "palate cleanser" in before I come back to Danganronpa

Makes sense. I want you at the top of your game for the third one, after all! These topics are rad. :)

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teep_
05/20/22 6:26:20 AM
#162:


OK, so this was a great game overall. I liked how from the beginning and all throughout the game, it seemed to set DR1 up and then subvert it in some way. This also extends to the ending, with DR 1 being very "hope good despair bad" and this one being more "decide for yourself whether you want hope or despair"

I liked the new minigames overall, but felt that in some trials they took away focus from the non-stop debates. Those are the core of trial gameplay for me, with the other minigames being cool additions to break up the monotony. That said, the large number of types of minigame meant that the individual minigames were used sparingly, which I appreciated.

The investigative side was better than DR1 too. In contrast to DR1, I liked how usually you had enough information going into a trial to be able to figure out most of what went down. Trial 4 had the best aha moment for me with the two areas and their positioning, and was probably the best trial for me. I enjoyed how they were longer and more nuanced/complex than DR1 too

The characters were overall pretty cool. I felt Mahiru was quite bland and not really fleshed out within the main game, but the rest of the cast was distinct and memorable. Akane was best girl with Chiaki getting an honourable mention and Gundham was best boy with Nekomaru getting an honourable mention. I liked Hajime as a protagonist, Junko is always great and Nagito was oddly compelling. Despite post #157, I'm still convinced Makoto and Nagito are secretly related somehow <_<

There are two things I feel could have been improved:
  1. The (earlier) executions were bland and felt lacking compared to the first one. In particular, they were less cruel/ironic. YMMV
  2. The interactions between Monokuma and Usami were ...not great. I'm not convinced Monokuma needs an extra character to bounce off; the schoolchildren are fine for that purpose imo.
I think I covered everything I wanted to talk about

DeadBankerDream posted...
My only real problem with the ending is that the conclusion is a complete power of friendship asspull that makes no sense and just happens cause it happens. I mostly ignore it because what the ending does in focusing on Hajime and the other characters to a lesser extent is so good. I even don't mind the return of big boobie Junko for the same reason. Not having to set up a new villain makes it easier to focus on Hajime.
I get that tbh, it does come out of nowhere. But I felt it was well-deserved and I don't begrudge the characters a happy ending in that regard

kirbymuncher posted...
ike obviously since you're done you know it's all just red herring stuff
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I'm still not convinced lol

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BakonBitz
05/20/22 7:29:19 AM
#163:


teep_ posted...
The (earlier) executions were bland and felt lacking compared to the first one. In particular, they were less cruel/ironic.
Yeah, definitely. Fun fact though, Kodaka didn't direct most of the execution scenes unlike in DR1 (I think the only one he did was Chiaki's), so that's probably why. But he made a point to direct them all in V3, and they are indeed an improvement.

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Umbreon
05/20/22 8:10:04 AM
#164:


Mahiru is one of those characters that you need to go deep in their free times to really see the appeal of. She's initially a bit abrasive, so people aren't too encouraged to spend much time with her. Then she dies in case 2 and that's that. Doesn't help that she's protective of Hiyoko of all characters.

But once you get to know her, she's pretty sweet. Easily one of the most 'normal' characters in the game.

So what did you think of the Rebuttal Showdowns in this game?

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teep_
05/20/22 8:29:04 AM
#165:


BakonBitz posted...
But he made a point to direct them all in V3, and they are indeed an improvement.


Umbreon posted...
So what did you think of the Rebuttal Showdowns in this game?
I think I jumped the first time it happened. But it's a good addition! Helps make things flow better. I also liked how you can back up other people instead of just calling them out within the nonstop debates

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markconig
05/20/22 8:38:44 AM
#166:


teep_ posted...
I also liked how you can back up other people instead of just calling them out within the nonstop debates

An advantage of that I didn't realize while playing was it makes the whole cast seem smarter. In DR1 your just constantly knocking away people's stupid statements so it seems like you, Kyoko, and Byakuya are the only smart people in the room. But when you agree with peoples statements, it shows they're at least thinking about the case critically. That helps the cast stand far above DR1s cast in my opinion. I like the cast of V3 the best because almost everyone actually contributes and is useful in some way.

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DeadBankerDream
05/20/22 8:50:42 AM
#167:


teep_ posted...
I felt Mahiru was quite bland and not really fleshed out within the main game
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/5/AAeS0LAADQEp.jpg

teep_ posted...
Akane was best girl with Chiaki getting an honourable mention
Lol, really? Owari is bottom 2 of the franchise for me. Only beat out by Yasuhiro.

teep_ posted...
The interactions between Monokuma and Usami were ...not great. I'm not convinced Monokuma needs an extra character to bounce off; the schoolchildren are fine for that purpose imo.
Awww, I really like Usami. Which I understand is not a popular opinion, but I do feel she added an interesting side to the Monokuma interactions.

Sounds like you're jumping straight to V3 (when you get to it) and skipping Ultra Despair Girls. Boo!

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DeadBankerDream
05/20/22 9:10:26 AM
#169:


Well I'm not gonna sit here and say you have to, but as a giant big butt fan of the series I absolutely adore UDG. It goes on sale at least on PSN fairly regularly and honestly it isn't much of a TPS (not a FPS), which can be further remedied with both difficulty selection and selecting the "I don't want to play the game let me win instantly" character.

It's just such an excellent take on the Dangan storyline outside of a visual novel setting and it legit is one of my favourite video games of all time for its storytelling structure.

There. Piece said. I'll shut up about it forever.

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teep_
05/20/22 9:12:05 AM
#170:


OK I messed up that post

I was gonna say that I'm not gonna hold off on V3 while waiting to get a job, make money, buy UDG etc. I should play what I already own and play the other stuff once I get it, y'know?

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teep_
05/20/22 9:15:40 AM
#171:


Also, it's not even been 24 hours and I'm getting withdrawal symptoms

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DeadBankerDream
05/20/22 9:19:00 AM
#172:


Solution: Go to school mode and date Mahiru

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Smiffwilm
05/20/22 9:19:12 AM
#173:


teep_ posted...
Yes, I'm not much of an FPS guy. Plus I refuse to wait until I a) get a job and b) it goes on sale to buy UDG
It's not necessary for V3, but it does provide some background context of the overall story. Like for example: how things were able to get as bad as they did outside of Hope's Peak and wasn't directly because of youknowwho.

Plus, Toko's much needed character development is a real shame to miss out on.

Just what a cutscene compilation if you really have no plans to play it ever but plan to ever see the D3 anime.

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teep_
05/20/22 9:24:52 AM
#174:


I plan on reading Zero and watching 3 at some point, so I'll be sure to play UDG beforehand

DeadBankerDream posted...
Solution: Go to school mode and date Mahiru
You spelt "everyone except mahiru...and saionji" wrong

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DeadBankerDream
05/20/22 9:27:23 AM
#175:


But if you date Mahiru in school mode she wants to take nude photos of you on the beach

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teep_
05/20/22 9:41:54 AM
#176:


...and can Hajime reciprocate?

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The Popo
05/20/22 9:47:21 AM
#177:


Ive never understood the love Mahiru gets from some people and the hate that Akane gets from some people. Even after all the dating stuff, Mahiru remains bland.

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DeadBankerDream
05/20/22 9:52:31 AM
#178:


She has red hair.

Your argument is invalid.

teep_ posted...
...and can Hajime reciprocate?
I don't remember. Possibly doubtful. >_>

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teep_
05/20/22 9:59:36 AM
#179:


The Popo posted...
Ive never understood the love Mahiru gets from some people
You don't even see her in her bikini

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Smiffwilm
05/20/22 11:16:19 AM
#180:


teep_ posted...
You don't even see her in her bikini
But did you see the special scene that requires the Man's Nut item with her?

Fyi, there are a few scenes like that in DR1 and 2 that require items to see.

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teep_
05/20/22 1:40:57 PM
#181:


Smiffwilm posted...
But did you see the special scene that requires the Man's Nut item with her?

Fyi, there are a few scenes like that in DR1 and 2 that require items to see.
Oh my...nice

I saw the DR1 ones, I missed these ones it seems. Mainly because I didn't realise the palm tree was a vending machine >_>

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BakonBitz
05/20/22 2:22:13 PM
#182:


teep_ posted...
Oh my...nice

I saw the DR1 ones, I missed these ones it seems. Mainly because I didn't realise the palm tree was a vending machine >_>
Lol, that's definitely easy to overlook.
But yeah, there's a bunch of hidden item scenes compared to 1.

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teep_
05/21/22 2:19:36 PM
#183:


fuck it, I'm seeing this through to the end

V3 topic https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80029028

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