Current Events > Maps of Ukraine on April 1st and April 28th.

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Slayer_22
04/28/22 5:37:03 AM
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As you can see, Ukraine was getting hit from the north AND the south.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/2/AARI02AADLYm.jpg And now as you can see, in just under a month Ukraine pushed Russian forces all the way back past the northern border, with minimal advancements in the south.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/3/AARI02AADLYn.jpg

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Chicken
04/28/22 5:40:04 AM
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looks like a command & conquer map

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Slayer_22
04/28/22 5:40:56 AM
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Chicken posted...
looks like a command & conquer map
It's a simplified map created by: https://mobile.twitter.com/War_Mapper

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Slayer_22
04/28/22 7:38:14 AM
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Bump.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
04/28/22 7:41:11 AM
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yeah the assault on Kiev was given up to concentrate on the east

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DarkRoast
04/28/22 7:44:31 AM
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
yeah the assault on Kiev was given up to concentrate on the east

Pretty sure they gave up because they didn't have any supplies left

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specialkid8
04/28/22 7:59:13 AM
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To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas. Still, Ukraine is making an absolute embarrassment out of a world super power.

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Dragon239
04/28/22 8:00:53 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas.
If they couldn't hold both and had to abandon one, is that not being pushed back?

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Slayer_22
04/28/22 8:03:16 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas. Still, Ukraine is making an absolute embarrassment out of a world super power.
They were pushed back. Being forced to retreat to focus on another area, or abandoning the area, is still being pushed back. Especially when one of their major goals was to take Kyiv, and they abandoned that.

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spikethedevil
04/28/22 8:05:43 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas. Still, Ukraine is making an absolute embarrassment out of a world super power.

How much is Russia paying you?

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Slayer_22
04/28/22 10:24:05 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
How much is Russia paying you?
Lol

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Doe
04/28/22 10:25:24 AM
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Wouldn't be happening if Ukraine had nuclear weapons

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Questionmarktarius
04/28/22 10:29:42 AM
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If Russia succeeds in cutting off Ukraine's coastline and also takes that sliver of Moldova, a "land bridge" to Kalingrad is next.
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thronedfire2
04/28/22 10:29:53 AM
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Doe posted...
Wouldn't be happening if Ukraine had nuclear weapons

yup

no other country is ever, ever going to give up nukes after this

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ncsonic
04/28/22 10:30:09 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas. Still, Ukraine is making an absolute embarrassment out of a world super power.

Thats what being pushed back is called


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masterpug53
04/28/22 10:51:59 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas. Still, Ukraine is making an absolute embarrassment out of a world super power.

"We're not retreating, we're just advancing in the opposite direction!"

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TendoDRM
04/28/22 11:09:04 AM
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
yeah the assault on Kiev was given up to concentrate on the east

*Kyiv

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Questionmarktarius
04/28/22 11:10:21 AM
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Dragon239 posted...
If they couldn't hold both and had to abandon one, is that not being pushed back?
Could have been a feint, but that implies competence.
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ZevLoveDOOM
04/28/22 11:11:08 AM
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good, i hope Putin continues to fail...
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Trelve
04/28/22 11:14:50 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
To be clear, the Russians were not pushed back. They abandoned those areas to focus on the Donbas. Still, Ukraine is making an absolute embarrassment out of a world super power.
Russia hasn't been a superpower since 1991.
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/22 11:16:11 AM
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ncsonic posted...
Thats what being pushed back is called
I think his point is that the Russians weren't routed ,it was an organised strategic retreat

There is a difference between that and outright defeat on the field . See Gettysburg

But no doubt about it they were pushed back and embarrassed

Russia has really had their pants pulled down in front of the world. There has been Joseph Stalin level Incompetence

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Questionmarktarius
04/28/22 11:19:42 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
good, i hope Putin continues to fail...
The scenario of Russia itself disintegrating is starting to seem more likely.
Kalingrad's independence movement is gaining momentum, and eastern Russia likely isn't going to put up with Moscow for very much longer.
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theAteam
04/28/22 11:25:27 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
world super power

Are they though?

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UnfairRepresent
04/28/22 11:28:35 AM
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theAteam posted...
Are they though?
They have nukes and we rely on them for energy, they also have tons of political influence

Yeah they are a world power sadly

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Thompson
04/28/22 11:32:39 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The scenario of Russia itself disintegrating is starting to seem more likely.
Kalingrad's independence movement is gaining momentum, and eastern Russia likely isn't going to put up with Moscow for very much longer.
A high-ranking Donetsk army commander guy (Strelkov or something) predicted that Russia could not take Kyiv, and would only end up consolidating into a front some distance from the capital. He was wrong; he didn't foresee that Russia would withdraw entirely from Kyiv.
He has also predicted that if the offensives in east of Ukraine drags on for months or even fails, then Russia itself will start to come undone.

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Questionmarktarius
04/28/22 11:35:18 AM
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If China starts posturing towards Vladivostok, Russia's disintegration is inevitable and soon.
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thronedfire2
04/28/22 11:36:21 AM
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Thompson posted...
A high-ranking Donetsk army commander guy (Strelkov or something) predicted that Russia could not take Kyiv, and would only end up consolidating into a front some distance from the capital. He was wrong; he didn't foresee that Russia would withdraw entirely from Kyiv.
He has also predicted that if the offensives in east of Ukraine drags on for months or even fails, then Russia itself will start to come undone.

Putin is too arrogant to admit defeat so he'll keep running Russia into the ground if the fighting drags on

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DarkRoast
04/28/22 1:04:30 PM
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Russia isn't "refocused" they're basically in an aimless quagmire.

They're only there because Putin's ego can't handle it

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ncsonic
04/28/22 1:08:29 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If China starts posturing towards Vladivostok, Russia's disintegration is inevitable and soon.
Thats what Im hoping for, pay back Russia always hacking and spying on our shit

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DarkRoast
04/28/22 1:11:56 PM
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Russia defaulted on its debts and is under heavy sanctions. At some point they're gonna run out of money.

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UnfairRepresent
04/28/22 3:56:47 PM
#33:


DarkRoast posted...
Russia isn't "refocused" they're basically in an aimless quagmire.

They're only there because Putin's ego can't handle it


I think it goes beyond Ego

Putin knows he won't be here in 10 years time so he legitimately doesn't care

It's why I don't get why people are like "Putin won't nuke anything, he's far too intelligent and rational for that."

he's a nutjob

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CelestialVoices
04/28/22 3:59:24 PM
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Sayoria
04/28/22 4:15:40 PM
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Surprised Putin isn't trying to enlist Hungary from the east. I am sure Orban would love to send bodies for Putin's cause.

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EyeWontBeFooled
04/28/22 4:20:01 PM
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Trelve posted...
Russia hasn't been a superpower since 1991.


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Shablagoo
04/28/22 4:20:28 PM
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Anyone know why some of the terminology in the legend changes between maps (e.g. conflicted vs. contested settlement)?

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Slayer_22
04/28/22 5:21:38 PM
#38:


Shablagoo posted...
Anyone know why some of the terminology in the legend changes between maps (e.g. conflicted vs. contested settlement)?
It might just be a different bit of terminology to reflect the different coloring they're using? I don't think it's actually something important.

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