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yusiko posted...

i saw the first 2 seasons of fear the walking dead
its funny that the teenage daughter barely did anything in season 1 but in season 2 she slowly became the only cast member with common sense and grew to be pretty badass

Her turd brother simultaneously grows as a person yet remains a turd

yusiko posted...

the show humanizes the governor a bit here
like he keeps his walker daughter around cause he cant bear to kill his little girl.

in the comic he was basically a cartoon bad guy only rated R and he kept his zombie little girl around cause he was having sex with it
yeah incest/pedophile/necrophile
and a rapist which isnt brought up in the show but implied

That's crazy. I've been thinking the Governor is kind of a bitch so far. Like he's evil but not like... competent evil (as in evil with the goal to spread evil). He's more neural evil or something.

S3 E9 - The Suicide King

Zombies - Nothing of note.

Picks up where last episode left off. Presumably Merle and Daryl are fighting to the death. Merle tells Daryl to follow his lead. They start trying to cause general chaos. Then the group shows up, shoots out the lights, shoots some random lady (I think she was the one with the expensive bow from like episode 3 or 4?) Manage to escape, including with Merle

Get back to the group, everyone is upset Merle is there. Rick knocks him unconscious and the group talks. Daryl makes his position known, he doesn't abandon blood.

Back at the prison, Allen and Ben are talking about attacking Carol and Carl. I don't think it would work out well for them if they tried. Tyrese and Sasha are clearly the ones with sense. I wouldn't be surprised if Allen and Ben try to turn coat to the Governor and end up dead before the end of the season.

They aren't sure what to do with Michonne but take her back. I don't know what they are questioning with her. She obviously needs to be part of the group. Or she could become a lead of a spin off series I guess.

End of episode, the new group wants to join the main group. Rick doesn't like the sound of that. Then he starts hallucinating. I think that is supposed to be Lori but her breasts looked too big. Not sure who else it could be, though, so I am assuming Lori in a push up bra or something. He starts shouting non-sense at hear and the new group leaves wondering WTF is going on.

I'm guessing this is PTSD or some sort of stress induced mental breakdown. It will be interesting seeing how they handle this. I would assume this is common in the apocalypse.

I also feel like I am missing part of the meaning of the title in this one. Suicide king is the king of hearts. I was expecting some sort of poker playing or betting reference or something like that. I guess it could just Rick, the king of his group, on a suicide mission? I dunno, just doesn't seem as on-point as a bunch of the other titles.

Oh and Glen brings up Carol to Daryl, but I'm pretty sure he still thinks she is dead.

Part pay off episode, part aftermath episode.

RIP woodbury guy that got bitten and put down by the Gov.

8/10. I hope Daryl comes back soon after realizing Merle is an asshole. At this point all of the original survivors are great cast members, but Daryl and Glen in particular seem irreplaceable. Like the show could go on easier without Rick than them IMO.

I love season three, good to read about your experience.

daryl and glenn are both in my top 5 favorite walking dead character list
along with maggie beth and michonne

S3 E10 - Home

Starts with Rick looking through binoculars that could really have the lenses cleaned. He creeps on Michonne for half a second and then see the vision of Lori. This time it is clearly meant to be Lori. Rick runs after her, leaving the gates open and goes to have his face rubbed my Lori. At this point I was about 75% sure that a zombie was going to be caressing Rick and that it was 50/50 whether he gets turned or not. So I totally lost that bet.

Back to Woodbury, Governor is basically saying he is stepping down and Andrea should lead. Last episode Andrea gave a half assed "we are going to be in history books" speech that was somehow super effective.

Goes to Merle and Daryl, Daryl learns that the Governor is going to attack the prison.

Back to the prison, Glen and Michonne are making plans to take out the governor. Hershel is resisting violence, saying they should leave. Glen says makes a good point that when they were previously on the road no baby and Hershel had 2 legs. They still aren't working the new group into the plan and Rick is missing.

Glen basically forces Maggie to talk about what happened during the interrogation / sexual assault. This was actually a really well set up and executed scene because it at least kept me questioning what is Glen's motive here? On the surface from his perspective, it is that he needs Maggie to be in a good head space, she is a strong survivor and sort of her trauma needs to be put aside for now in order to prepare for the imminent threat of total annihilation. From Maggie's perspective, she is just trying to process, and heal, and he is pushing to know what happened and she seems to think it is some machismo / ownership thing on Glen's part as far as did the Governor rape HIS woman. Like none of that is set, but the undertones are there and you can tell to some degree Maggie may be right. But at the same time Glen really wasn't pushing, at least this time. He did before.

Daryl and Merle are in the woods making a lot of noise (Daryl is normally pretty quiet in the woods but he was making a lot of noise along with Merle, bad influence already) when Daryl hears a baby crying. Merle things its two raccoons going at it. Daryl spots some survivors on a bridge and goes to save them. That's the right survivor attitude! Daryl gets the best zombie kill of the series by far so far when he slams a trunk door on a zombie head while dragging a zombie out of the car. Merle then tries to hold up the people for some benefit, Daryl sends them on their way having Merle at bow point. I hope those people end up in a spin off series. I want Daryl to become like a Walking Dead tall tale, Paul Bunyon-esque character but he goes around with a cross bow saving people.

Back to prison, Rick tells Hershel he sees dead people. Hershel tries to get him to come in but he won't. Cuts to Axl talking to Carol in the courtyard and Axl gets headshot by the Governor. Gunfight ensues. The Group takes out 2, the guy in the tower and the guy driver the governor (kills go to Michonne, I think, and Maggie). Once it looked like the group was in real bad shape, what appeared to be a woman (I assume not Andrea... but maybe?) drove an armored like delivery truck with a rear ramp into the prison. Drops the ramp, maybe a dozen zombies walk out.

Glen shows back up as the Governors group is leaving and goes to save the people in the outer yard. And as Rick is being surrounded, Daryl and Merle show up.

Good episode. I would have liked to see the new group, I hope they aren't gone forever, Tyrese at least is way too good to lose.

9/10.

S3 E11 - I ain't a Judas

Zombies - Can survive a curb stomp in order to be made into camouflage zombies. One camouflage zombie largely conceals one human.

Group tries to figure out what to do after a perceived ass-kicking. Hershel tells Rick that if this isn't a democracy he better step up. A few minutes later Carl tells Rick to step down as leader. That's gotta sting.

Woodbury is mobilizing. Anyone over 13 other than the feeble and the elderly. A 60 something with arthritis is turned down but a 14 year old with asthma is conscripted.

Carol tells Daryl that Merle isn't good for him and that Daryl has grown.

Andrea escapes to talk to the group, come across Tyrese's group and Milton the doctor guy who is with Andrea on the governors orders takes the new group back to Woodbury. Stupid fucking Rick.

Andrea visits the prison, they are cold to her, she feels she doesn't belong anywhere, so goes back and bangs the governor.

Beth sings and it is nice. Makes it feel like war is on next episode. The night before battle.

I think it might have been a continuation of the same song, but episode ends back in Woodbury with what sounds like a Tom Waits song playing, or at least a Tom Waits impersonator.

6/10 episode. The last 4 minutes notwithstanding that was boring episode. It felt like about 25 minutes worth of story stretched to 43 minutes. The songs nearly bump it to 7.

S3 E12 - Clear

Zombies - Make for good traction when stuck in the mud.

Kind of a breath of fresh air of an episode, Rick, Michonne, Carl to start. Early on they are driving and see a guy walking and hitchhiking. They ignore him, get stuck, he comes running to them for help, they ignore him and drive off. They are going to get some guns from Rick's home sheriff department. It is looted and empty. So they decide to check on various restaurants and businesses that had permits. They come to the down town area and clearly someone set up base here. They tried to make it as clear as possible they wanted no company. But Rick and co ignore it. So they end up getting shot at. Somehow Michonne is able to scale a building in the time it takes Rick to re-load his revolver. Then boom, gut shot by Carl. But the guy is wearing body armor. And who is it? None other than a crazy Morgan from the first season! He is back and crazier than ever after his son died.

Carl goes on a side mission to get a picture of his family from a local family restaurant where it was hanging up. Michonne helps him. They bond. Morgan stays behind but a bit more sane than before. I wonder if he shows up in the spin offs?

They end up leaving with a bunch of guns and ammo and head back to the prison. The hitch hiker is dead, they see his bag and take it.

I feel like Rick changed a bit this episode talking to Morgan. It was good for the both of them I think. Rick is acknowledging his weaknesses finally. Leaning on others now and then. Morgan was pulled out of a dark place. Still not well but he has a chance.

8/10. Not the most action oriented but it was nice to have an episode not just bounce back and forth.

A lot of people think that Rick's speech to Morgan was more for Rick himself then Morgan. Kinda like he acknowledges after Lori he kinda went off the deep end with rage and guilt.

i recently learned that the hitchhikers backpack is in every season now
multiple characters have used it and it gets passed around to character in between episodes it seems

ive never noticed

still really enjoying this, bump

S3 E13 - Arrow on the Doorpost

Zombies -

I didn't quite follow the beginning. Rick, Hershel, Daryl show up at a store on neutral ground. The governor is already there and walks out of the shadows. A few minutes later Andrea, Milton, and the guy that is the governor's muscle (not sure if we've caught his name yet).

Rick and The Governor are negotiating for peace. The Gov claims he just wants Michonne, Rick doesn't believe him but doesn't lead on. I think the Gov leaves thinking he's tricked Rick.

Chekov's gun is taped under the table that Rick and the Governor are meeting at. I am wondering how that comes into play later, Rick shouldn't be stupid enough to show up there in 2 days (the deadline Gov sets for turning over Michonne)...

Milton and Hershel talk a bit, Milton is taking history of the apocalypse. Daryl and the muscle flex at each other and then bond for a few minutes, knowing they'll soon be killing each other.

Episode ends with them parting ways, back at Woodbury we learn The Gov plans to break his word, and at the prison we learn that Rick knows.

Oh, and we learn the Govs full name is Philip Blake.

Good episode. Lots of talking around the point between Rick and Gov. 8/10, solid set up episode.

S3 E14 - Prey

Zombies - Flammable but just lighting one on fire isn't a guarantee for total immolation.

Starts with a flashback to Michonne and Andrea. Talking about the 2 zombies they had with them. They apparently deserved it and weren't human to begin with.

Very interesting. Going back to my theory she is a special agent or some sort of law enforcement, I'm guessing they were perps (pedos or kid killers or something) that Michonne was transporting as the virus spread, turned in her custody and after observing a few zombies took their arms, jaw and teeth.

Rest of the episode is Woodbury centric, minus the part of Andrea just about making it to the prison. Governor is setting up a torture chamber, Andrea has him in her sights but Milton doesn't let her shoot. Andrea finally wises up on the Governor, decides she is going to leave. Tries to trick Tyrese and Shasha but they see through her but let her leave anyways. This leads to episode long chase of Andrea which I think was done really poorly. If I had been writing that, the truck driving by the field would have been closest I let the Gov get to her until he tackles her at the very end. I'm not sure but when they were in the warehouse, that seemed like Terminator music when Sarah was being stalked by the terminator.

We also learned Tyrese is a bad shot but Sasha is a good one, and that Allen and Ben aren't really all that trustworthy and are turn coats.

Milton is the one setting the walkers / biters on fire, not sure why Tyrese took the blame? Maybe he figured no one would believe him?

Overall I feel like they have done Andrea's character dirty this season. Season 1 and 2 I figured her loyalties were to herself after Amy died, just keeping herself safe. The problem is this season it feels like they have taken too much agency from her. My guess is they didn't want her to look evil, but when you only make decisions in ignorance it sort of takes a lot of weight away from that.

6/10. I might be a bit hard on this one, I often like chase movies / episodes, this one just didn't work for me.

andrea is one of the most hated characters in the series and season 3 didnt win her any fans
which is a shame cause comic book andrea is the best character in the comic

yusiko posted...

andrea is one of the most hated characters in the series and season 3 didnt win her any fans
which is a shame cause comic book andrea is the best character in the comic

Yeah I hear shes a badass in the comic. In the show though shes so stupid and I am not a fan.

dummy420 posted...

Yeah I hear shes a badass in the comic. In the show though shes so stupid and I am not a fan.

nearly every good female centric story arc in the show was an andrea storyline in the comics
the show did her dirty

the show did other female characters better though as a lot of them didnt get much focus in the comics due to andrea getting all the focus

yusiko posted...

nearly every good female centric story arc in the show was an andrea storyline in the comics
the show did her dirty

Yeah I hear Carol took alot of her stories. Her change over time was one of the things I like.

Norman_Smiley posted...

Very interesting. Going back to my theory she is a special agent or some sort of law enforcement, I'm guessing they were perps (pedos or kid killers or something) that Michonne was transporting as the virus spread, turned in her custody and after observing a few zombies took their arms, jaw and teeth.

Don't worry TC, eventually they do explain who those 2 zombies were. Although if I recall correctly, the show never confirms her previous occupation. Soo... theorycraft away lol

i dont remember if the show ever tells us what she used to do
but i know the comic does

if you want to know what michonne did before the end of the world she was a lawyer

yusiko posted...

if you want to know what michonne did

That sounds really familiar so Im guessing its mentioned in the show as well because I never read the comics. Could be wrong though of course.

S3 15 - This Sorrowful Life

Zombies - With a bit of effort, head can be torn off with a cord or cable.

Rick has a sudden change of opinion. Last episode he knew the Gov was lying, now he's trying to convince himself its their only option and is trying to get Daryl and Hershel on board. This feels out of character here for Rick. Anyway, Rick decides he needs Merle's help.

The group is deciding how / if Merle fits in. Glen just can't forgive.

Rick goes to get some cord to bind Michonne with when he starts seeing visions of Lori again. Meanwhile Merle is luring Michonne to the tombs, knocks her out and takes her captive. He tells her about the deal, how Rick wouldn't have done it but he will. They come to a restaurant and Michonne gets tied to a post and Merle hotwires a car. Incidentally, I don't think they should be able to hotwire any new cars at this point. All those batteries should be dead. This is especially true on a vehicle with an alarm that the car Merle was stealing. That battery should have been dead 9 months ago.

Anyway, Rick notices Michonne is gone, Daryl goes to track them.

Michonne and Merle are talking in car, Michonne says no one would miss Merle, not even his brother. A couple of minutes later Merle lets her go. Just unbinds her and gives her the sword and lets her go. Merle then goes to back to the restaurant and lures zombies with loud music while drinking (don't drink and drive, kids, even during the apocalypse) to the meeting place where he was going to turn over Michonne. Maybe 30 zombies come? Merle hides in the warehouse and starts shooting the Governor's men. I could 4 definite hits, might have been up to 7, a few of those were ambiguous was that a zombie or person that fell down.

Merle almost kills the governor but Ben gets in the way at the last minute and dies instead. A zombie attacks Merle, he fights the zombie and falls outside through the door and gets caught by the Governor's men, The Gov kicks the shit out of Merle, bites a couple of his fingers off and then shoots him.

Back at the prison, Rick tells everyone he's no longer in charge, its a democracy again. Michonne shows up shortly after alone. I wonder at this point if Michonne would really go back to the prison again.

Daryl finally catches up on Merle's trail only to find a Merle zombie. Turns out Michonne was wrong, Daryl did care. I dunno, I think I would have had Merle survive, having recurring characters even in the apocalypse is fun. Regardless, Daryl knives zombie Merle in the eye. And then a bunch more in the face.

Also, does Daryl have a new crossbow? Like the bow part is kind of 2 pieces where it was solid before. Was this the bow he stole from the guard at Woodbury? I thought that was just his same bow.

RIP Merle. You were a piece of shit but you started to grow on me a tiny bit. At least you went out evening the numbers, giving your baby brother a better chance to survive.

8/10. Maybe even a 9/10. Like that was a good send off for Merle. They somehow managed to humanize him. Has Daryl been in anything else I might have seen that predates walking dead?

A large part of what made Merle likable, even though he's not really a likable person, is Michael Rooker. That was a great casting choice.

IIRC michonne rick and carl found his new crossbow on their supply run
they can be seen loading it into the car

anyway fun fact, neither merle or daryl exist in the comic books
and daryl didnt exist in the early stages of the shows development
but normen reedus ended up auditioning for merle and they ended up liking him a lot but i guess they didnt think he was right for the role. so they created the daryl character especially for him

Norman_Smiley posted...

8/10. Maybe even a 9/10. Like that was a good send off for Merle. They somehow managed to humanize him. Has Daryl been in anything else I might have seen that predates walking dead?

he was in the boondock saints

yusiko posted...

he was in the boondock saints

oooohhh the younger brother right? ok he looked vaguely familiar but couldn't look it up because easy to spoil stuff.

Merle turned out to be a great character it's a shame they got rid of him. I love that scene drinking in the car with all the zombies around.

Norman_Smiley posted...

oooohhh the younger brother right? ok he looked vaguely familiar but couldn't look it up because easy to spoil stuff.

Why do you assume his dick is smaller than Sean Patrick Flanery's?

S3 E16 Welcome to the Tombs

Zombies - Nothing of note

What the fuck was that? That totally flipped my expectations on anything that could have possibly gone down. Episode starts Governor beating Milton, takes him to Andrea, tells him to kill her, he clumsily swings on the governor, Gov stabs him in the gut. Tells him one way or another he's going to kill Andrea. They leave and at some point come back, Milton tells a while after he's been stabbed he left a tool behind her chair and she can get it. Should have shared that 30 minutes ago Milton. Anyway, done with them for now.

Goes to the group, they appear to be preparing to leave. Carl is all pissed. Rick is seeing things.

Most of the episode is settling this shit once and for all. Governor and the militia come in guns blazing. Mounted 50 call auto and grenade launchers and everyone armed with rifles. All the zombies are annihilated. They enter the courtyard, the prison, the cell block, nothing. No resistance. So enter the tombs. Get deep in them when smoke grenades and sirens start going off. I think they were at 33 and lost 8 so 25? They break up, zombies, panic firing, shouting, chaos. They exit and Andrea and Glen are shooting from elevated cross firing positions. As any arm chair action / military movie fan knows, they've got a definite kill zone here. Yet they don't hit anyone. All Woodbury escapes as far as I can tell. Well, almost.

As everyone is leaving, a 18-ish year old boy comes across Hershel, Beth and Carl. Carl draws and Hershel says drop it. The boy is stupid. He is slowly inching towards Carl, telling him to take it. So Carl shoots him. Head shot. A crow caws. Shit.

The Governor's group are racing back to Woodbury. Governor cuts them off to stop them. They start talking about some slaughter. So Governor slaughters them. Kills all but 3. His new number 2, muscly black guy, and woman who said it was a slaughter. First two go back with Governor, last is hiding under a corpse and survives because Gov runs out of bullets.

Group decides to end it, but before doing so Rick tries to talk to Carl about killing that kid and Carl just blows him off telling him because Rick didn't kill Andrew Loris is dead and Merle is dead because Rick didn't kill the Governor when he had a chance and tells him to go do his job. Shit.

Rick, Michonne, Daryl apparently are enough to do the job in their mind. This is WTF for me. Like they could have killed easily 12 of them back at the prison if they actually tried. Then chase down the rest with maybe everyone but Hershel, Beth and Carl. But they come with only 3? Come on now. So they come across the scene of the slaughter, they find the slaughter lady, she tells them what happened.

They go to Woodbury and come across Sasha and Tyrese and after exchanging fire exchange words and they are let in. They find Andrea and Milton. Now come on here. Andrea got free. They spent basically the entire season, once she was healed, highlighting what a badass zombie killer she is. Milton would have been a shit zombie. She would have gotten him no problem. Worst case she gets a tooth in her foot as she stomps the head because she was barefoot at this point.

Episode ends with all the remaining Woodbury survivors coming to the prison. Young and elderly basically. Plus Sasha, Tyrese, and slaughter lady.

Fuck. God dammit Rick! This is not how I told you to build strength. This is the sort of shit the Vatos did! There was what, 9 of the original group? Hershel counts as half a fighter on defense now, Beth is non-combatant, Carl is just in the Ranks of killers. Carol also sits stuff out often. So call it 6.5-7.5/9. That is a strong group of survivors. Because you've also go 3 asterisk characters there with Daryl, Glen and Michonne.

Tyrese, Sasha, each a point. Slaughter lady, maybe half point. Probably just neutral for now, but potential to be a full pointer. Then like a dozen kids and a dozen elderly? Kids you are probably a -3 or so in strength. A few might be neutral but Carl is going to be by far most badass of the kids and he is only a .5 now. The elderly, I'm guessing 6 at +.5, 3 at 0, 3 at -.5 for a +1.5 total. So basically they added 27 people and got +1 survivability overall IMO. 7.5-8.5/36 sucks. Best case after a year that turns kids +3 and +6 elderly bringing them to like 17/36. That's still weak.

I guess the good news is it does make some sort of survivors more likely to stay and maybe even fully integrate into the group? Like no one from this group is going to threaten for leadership. Once you are at this size you can then absorb a group of maybe even a dozen without losing power. Though it would be smarter to take in groups of 3 or 4, after first couple of days splitting them up. Other than couples.

RIP Andrea. You were never one of my favorite characters but they sure gave you a lot of time to not really make you interesting.
RIP Milton. You could have been interesting in the main group if they managed to hole up somewhere long enough.
RIP at least 21 Woodbury folk by my count, maybe 24 or more if my numbers were wrong?

I'm going to go 8/10. The Governor is still out there and in full asshole mode. I'm guessing he kills the other two out of paranoia soon. But he could kill 5+ next season randomly before getting caught. Deadliest episode of the series so far. At least like 23 dead? Depending on how he counted I'm thinking up to... 26? All for nothing.

Season overall... 8/10. I can see this being an iconic season of the series. I hope the final conclusion with The Governor next season is really satisfying. Otherwise might bring this entire season down 1 for me. I was hoping to see him done with this season.

Overall at this point I'd say... Season 1>3>2, but it's kind of hard to compare them. Season 1 had so few episodes compared to season 3.16 episodes is a ton for an hour of television. Season 2 had too little happening for how long it was. I think the overall pacing of season 3 was alright, 13 episodes but same story arc probably would have been better.

2 & 3 were my favorite.

Oh man you're in for a disappointment. I liked it for a little while, but all the characters are written the same with the same character beats. Every single one.

if you had watched the show teen wolf you would have recognized the slaughter lady as the teen wolf main characters mom in the show

a few actors from teen wolf find their way into the walking dead or a walking dead spin off

Season four is fantastic, lots of big kills/events coming.

S4 E1 - 30 Days without an Accident

Zombies - Can a disease go from pigs to zombies to humans? There was a zombie with funky eyes, a couple of sick pigs, and now Carl's friend Patrick has died and presumably next episode will enjoy some canned food in the prison. I'm guessing they are going to kill the pigs and just go vegan?

Not clear if this is the same year as the Governor's fight. I think it is a couple of months later but that's not clear. The prison has a lot of people now, and not just elderly and young. They have been getting other survivors.

Rick is a farmer, Rick is trying to get Carl to be a kid again, but unsure how that will work out. Rick comes across a gun in the field he is hoeing, it might be Hershel's from the first time Governor attacked? Not sure exactly where it came from.

More and more zombies are surrounding the prison, I'm not sure if their herding mentality has changed over time or what. Rick goes to check trap lines and comes across a lady that initially looks like a zombie. Super dirty and stumbling, coming across a living (but barely) pig. Asks to join the camp with her husband Ed. Turns out she is crazy and Ed is a zombie. Kind of a sad moment.

Beth is dating some kid Zach? He dies this episode. Also there is some new guy Bob that first impression is "oh, army medic? He'll be hella useful" but he apparently was an alcoholic and unlucky to boot being tangentially responsible for Zach's death.

They should have taken a bunch of hummers back with them. I would be having the group in a fleet of hummers since I'm guessing we'll keep seeing them everywhere and roads are going to get worse and worse.

RIP Zach
RIP Patrick

The prison isn't as idyllic as it seems.

9/10 episode.

poor beth just cant keep a boyfriend
this is her second one to get eaten
also i think the first 5 seasons only cover about 2 years despite taking 5 in real life

yusiko posted...

poor beth just cant keep a boyfriend
this is her second one to get eaten
also i think the first 5 seasons only cover about 2 years despite taking 5 in real life

I think so. I remember it being really jarring with how much Carl was aging despite not much time passing in the show lol

there are longer time skips between seasons later on to account for actors aging
but early on not much time passed at all

Norman_Smiley posted...

RIP Andrea. You were never one of my favorite characters but they sure gave you a lot of time to not really make you interesting.

I hated Andrea and I still think that scene(s) was horseshit.

It felt like three and a half hours of "careful careful OH NO HE TWITCHED HOLD STILL FOR TWENTY MINUTES okay careful careful OH NO"

S4 E2 - Infected

Zombies - Nothing of note, still not sure direction virus jumps over.

Starts with someone feeding rats to walkers. I think it is that girl Lizzie. She is fucked up something bad. It could be a misdirect and she's normal and her sister is actually the psycho, but I'm pretty sure it's Lizzie.

Starts off Patrick eating some dude in the middle of the night that looked somewhat familiar. He goes on to eat others, or someone else died at the same time that locked themselves in their cell. So the flu killed two. This causes chaos, fight scene, the dad of Lizzie and the other girl I didn't catch the name of dies, Carol promises to look after the girls. Lizzie says she can put down her dad but doesn't. Later Carol calls her weak. The girl starts crying about the walker with a name tag. Then her sister says she's not weak, but messed up. Bad sign. Weak you can train. Messed up... well the apocalypse isn't good for mental health.

The Counsel (Hershel, Glen, Sasha, Daryl, Carol) talks about what to do. Sounds like they are putting people in death row?

Beth is taping Michonne's ankle after she fell. Michonne was saying she should have been left before, so stupid. Kind of WTF given that she took care of Andrea all last winter. Later Beth is singing, tries to give Michonne Judith and Michonne freaks out. Guessing Michonne lost a baby at some point.

The zombies are nearly pushing down the fence before I think it was Glen and Maggie called for Rick and Daryl. How do they let it get like this? Like this is something you'd have multiple shifts each day of zombie fence clearers. Letting it get to that point is like the #1 thing you don't do. Plot induced stupidity.

Now that it has happened, my next step would be to put Cheval de frise(had to look that up) across the entire perimeter of the fence to try to stop so many getting on the fence at the same time.

Tyrese goes to visit slaughter lady (they were banging) but she was bloodied and burnt along with someone else. So there is someone in the prison going to extreme measures on their own. No idea who this would be... bob of the doctor maybe? Neither seem like a good fit yet though.

10/10 episode. This set up a lot of danger. Flu, zombie feeder, body burner, conflict between carol and parents for teaching weapons, splitting the group, even if Lizzie isn't the feeder her being "messed up" and still with this all going down, no sighting of the Governor, who I am guessing is at least partially responsible for all the zombies coming to the prison.

Norman_Smiley posted...

The zombies are nearly pushing down the fence before I think it was Glen and Maggie called for Rick and Daryl. How do they let it get like this? Like this is something you'd have multiple shifts each day of zombie fence clearers. Letting it get to that point is like the #1 thing you don't do. Plot induced stupidity.

Yeah, that really is. In the comics, they expressly patrol the fence to kill off zombies. They even strap a knife to a board so they can knife a zombie in the eye without the knife going through the fence.

Oh and this might be an unpopular opinion, but Carol is starting to get sexy. Never thought Id say that. I bet she can throw down when shes not with an abusive asshole.

If you're curious, I can tell you what happened with comic Carol because hoo boy it was a ride. They're completely different characters, so it wouldn't be spoiling the show.

I might read the series when Im done, so Id like to avoid any big comics spoilers.

I plugged it once, earlier in this topic, but the Telltale games have some real good stories, especially TWD Season 1 and TWD Michonne.

Now that you are watching and seemingly enjoying it, there are characters from the show that pop up here and there, and you get some side stuff on top of it. If you are looking to expand on the universe, it's a good game experience that can be had pretty cheap.

Norman_Smiley posted...

I might read the series when Im done, so Id like to avoid any big comics spoilers.

Fair enough.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Now that you are watching and seemingly enjoying it, there are characters from the show that pop up here and there,

More specifically, there are characters from the comic that pop up. They're pretty distinctly different from the show.

pegusus123456 posted...

They even strap a knife to a board so they can knife a zombie in the eye without the knife going through the fence.

I thought that was in the show.

DrizztLink posted...

I thought that was in the show.

It's definitely in the comic.

S4E3 - Isolation

Zombies - Seems to be no real limit on how large a horde can get. I'm not good estimating crowds that size, especially that quickly when you don't even have a chance to estimate the area they are covering but... 10,000? 20,000? Maybe 50,000? Huge horde. Seemed like up to now our biggest horde was maybe a couple hundred in Atlanta.

Starts with Tyrese telling Rick, Daryl and Carol about how he came across the scene. Tyrese wants to kill whoever did this. Rick tries to calm him down, they end up fighting, a bit of 2 on 1 action for Rick to be able to lay the boots to Tyrese.

The counsel meets, Sasha gets sick, we see Glen starting to get sick. Rick and Tyrese talk outside as Tyrese is digging graves and Rick apologizes, Tyrese accepts it. Hershel goes picking elderberries, Carl joins him. H stops C from shooting a zombie they come across because its so peaceful and the zombie had an animal trap on it's leg. Interesting call from H there.

Daryl, Michonne, Bob and Tyrese are going to set out for veterinary school 50 miles away. I didn't catch exactly what was said, I wanted to know where that was. They are looking for antibiotics. While they are driving in relative silence for what is assumed to be a good while, just as Daryl asks michonne for the CDs, someone starts speaking over the radio. So Daryl turns it up, tries to fine tune the frequency but its a newer car that just goes +/- .2mhz. At this point about 5 seconds have passed with Daryl not having his eyes on the road and I start yelling "LOOK UP! LOOK WHERE YOU ARE DRIVING!" and like 5 seconds later he's hitting zombies. Thankfully Daryl is no Lori and keeps the Dodge Charger upright (did the sponsor change late season 3 / season 4? Started being a lot of ram trucks recently, and now a Dodge Charger?). Then he keeps driving for another 10 or 15 seconds. WTF Daryl I don't expect this bullshit from you. You stop, kill the zombies around you, try to get that radio station. Or, more realistically when you stop 1/4 mile before, you then see a whole shit ton of zombies.

They get mobbed. Michonne, Daryl and somehow Bob make it. Tyrese ain't having any of this shit and is just chilling in the car. Then after enough coaxing from Bob he gets out. A death mob surrounds him and I was getting ready to write him off. Starting to think well, guess he's not that special after all. But nope, he starts playing expert level wack a zombie with his hammer and escapes off screen only to meet back up with teh group.

Back at the prison Rick asks Carol if she would do anything for the camp. She says yes. He then asks if she killed Karen and David, she says yes and walks off screen. Cold blooded. I figured it out mid-way through the episode, a bit disappointed I didn't see this last episode.

I bet watching this episode post-COVID is really different than pre-COVID. Like when Hershel walks into the quarantine area, he was wearing a bandanna. I was yelling at him for not wearing one of those riot cop head pieces with a face shield. Sure enough, blood is coughed on Hershel as he is taking care of the doctor.

9/10. Another good episode. I like this very slightly crossing genres. And again, I bet this entire plotline feels much different post COVID.

PS, watch out for those monkey pox, everyone.