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Season 2 is my favorite, followed by 3.

I got pissed off at the end of 6, but it's still good up to 8 at least.

Haven't seen 9 or 10.

Season 2 Episode 4: Cherokee Rose

Zombies apparently can get water logged. No other new lore.

Glen, wtf why make him live bait every time? They could have tied up a chicken if they just needed to be able to direct it a bit. And yeesh at the gut splitting. Was that practical effects?

Lori might be preggers.

Maggie surprising went for virgin Glen for no real rhyme or reason. Like they've interacted a bit but apparently just flashing the condoms is all she needed to go for it? I mean i get it, he's definitely the catch of the crew, considering survivability, attractiveness, psycho-ness, and availability.

Hershel and Maggie aren't fans of killing the walkers.

Dale is quickly losing his role as the old white guy.

Daryl gives Carol a Cherokee Rose, as the episode is titled, and tells a story about dead Native American babies. That doesn't sound too inspiring to me, but at the same time, Daryl found a sleeping area that I thought they were trying to make it look like it was Sophia, if so that's first sign of her alive since episode 1. Yet he didn't share that with her so maybe that wasn't supposed to have been Sophia or maybe it was too cold of at trail? I don't know, first episode that really put a focus on Sophia since the first.

Oh, and Daryl's motorcycle (maybe he still considers it Merle's until we find him dead?) has an SS logo on it. Hopefully Daryl removes that at some point...

8/10. Not sure what it was, but this was a really solid episode I felt.

Season 2 Episode 5 - Chupacabra

I actually thought Daryl was going to die this episode. When he fell down the cliff and starting dreaming of Merle, I figured that was the end of him. Wake up and a zombie is eating him, and low and behold, almost happened.
Then when he was climbing up the hill and hallucinated Merle again, I figured he would like step over a log and woops, there's a zombie mouth.
Then it gets to the end and fucking Andrea shoots him... nearly. I was sure they were going to go to black screen and we learn he's dead next episode. Glad to know I was wrong this time.

Maggie... so basically she likes controlling Glen? Like she's got to be in charge.
Glen "you know we've got 11 condoms left" shoot and a miss.

Lori is preggers. Now the question is who's is it? I'm not exactly sure how much time is supposed to have passed, but it seems more likely to be Shane's.

Carl is still out of it but he's gonna survive. Oh and last episode Carl got Rick's hat. I forgot to mention that. And Rick was putting away his badge and stuff, I was thinking that might be he is not being the authority here at the farm, which seems to be the idea.

And look forward to seeing the reason for having a barn full of walkers. Hershel seems to think they can be cured and aren't dead is my guess? Does Glen tell everyone or just Rick?

Similar to last episode, decent pacing, story is moving along.

7/10 episode.

Norman_Smiley posted...

I actually thought Daryl was going to die this episode. When he fell down the cliff and starting dreaming of Merle, I figured that was the end of him. Wake up and a zombie is eating him, and low and behold, almost happened.
Then when he was climbing up the hill and hallucinated Merle again, I figured he would like step over a log and woops, there's a zombie mouth.

Lmao, oh yeah, despite how many characters are constantly dying in this show, there are also a ton of fake outs like those for different characters. Really keeps you on your toes.

Been a fun read so far, thanks TC, brings me nostalgia.

fun fact about hershels 2 daughters maggie and beth
maggie is supposed to be around 21 or 22 right now
her actress was like 30 when cast

beth is supposed to be around 16 but her actress was like 27

Season 2 Episode 6: Secrets

Zombies - Glen nearly decapitated a zombie only one side of its neck was attached (left or right, I can't remember). Based on what you would see, a reasonable person would expect the spinal cord / brain stem being severed, but the zombie was able to still move easily. Seems to me it should have only been able to lay there and open its mouth and snarl.

Maggie is starting to scare me a bit. Like she's got a bit of the craziness in her. But she recognizes Glen is badass and treated like a buttmonkey. I sort of expect her to be his down fall in the future, just too crazy. Or maybe she just internalizes shit a lot. I dunno.

Lori's big choice was to abort or not to abort with a dozen morning after pills. I don't know if that would cause an abortion, but i have a feel taking a bunch of them would fuck up your insides one way or another.

Shane and Andrea finally fucked. I was actually starting to think I was wrong, but once she finally started shooting the z's it was on.

Dale calling out Shane like that seemed again not what I would expect his character to do. I could see Dale sitting on info, publicly sharing it when it benefited his goals, but one on one like that Shane (he's doubting Shane's story about Otis because Shane pointed a gun at Rick earlier in the season without Rick being aware). He then goes to Hershel about the walkers for who knows why, he didn't have a plan or anything. And then Maggie gets pissed at Glen for it but Dale seemed to actually reasonably cover his trail there so... I dunno.

T-dog did nothing. Carol did nothing.

Jimmy learned how to shoot. As did Andrea (she got shane's special instructions). And Beth and Patricia, though did they did something drastically with Patricia? I feel like 3 or 4 episodes ago she looked in her 60s, now I would guess late 40s / early 50s.

Daryl is convalescing.

I was looking for Sophia in the barn but didn't see her. I'm still pretty sure she is dead but they are really milking this. I'd say maybe 20% chance she is still alive?

6/10. Lot's of important stuff but something was a bit off to me.

If I recall, next episode is a good one

Season 2 Episode 7: Pretty Much Dead Already

Great episode.

Zombies, nothing new really other than you can kind of walk them on a tether / dog catchers stick by using yourself as the carrot.

Shane finds out Lori is pregnant, Carl tells Shane they have to stay, Shane makes the decision to kill all the walkers in the barn. He had plenty of time to cool his head while looking for Dale, this wasn't spur of the moment, this was calculated as the best course of action by Shane.

Rick of course was working with Hershel to get them to stay on the farm, and part of that was to accept walkers as human.

Maggie and Glen seem to be a real couple now? Maggie gave the go ahead to Glen to kill the walkers as well, so certainly not everyone on the farm fully agrees.

it was easy for everyone to step to the line and kill walkers. No one could pull the trigger on Sophia except Rick. Hershel was breaking down.

I have no idea how this is going to go next, lots of options from here.
1) Shane takes over the group, kills Hershel, somehow pacifies Rick, they run the farm.
2) Shane leaves / is killed and Rick remains, somehow able to patch things with Hershel and they stay.
3) Group leaves for Fort Benning, Hershel and his crew (except maggie who I expect would go with glen) are never to be seen again but will surely die in the future.
4) Group splinters. I could see Shane / Andrea leaving together, Daryl / Carol leaving (who would have thought that, but last couple of episodes they have really bonded), and maybe Dale and T-Dog, potentially leaving Rick, Lori, Carl, Glen on the farm.

That was really good. 6 episodes of building to that point.

10/10 episode.

Last episode i forgot to mention RIP Sophia.

Season 2 Episode 8: Nebraska

Basically aftermath of episode 7, takes place immediately after it.

Hershel wants the survivors gone. Maggie wants Glen to stop being a butt monkey. Beth is in shock (she's not going to last long). Carl was willing to kill Sophia.

Really biggest change seems to be Rick, which is surprising to me. I don't know when he changed his clothes but he's in all black now instead of any sheriff stuff. I know he put away his badge and stuff a few episodes, but it really feels like he put that life behind him now. I couldn't have seen episode 6 Rick to kill those two guys in the bar like that.

Lori is a terrible driver. I'm surprised she survived pre-apocalypse, if she ever texted and drove she would be dead.

Daryl I feel bad for. I think he was the only one that really believed Sophia was alive. There's something surprisingly innocent about Daryl.

T-dog and Andrea basically just went with the flow.

Was Hyundai a big sponsor of this show? Seems like new vehicle, hyundai. old vehicle, could be anything and odds are it barely works / gets flipped easily.

RIP "Dave" and "Tony". For some reason I don't believe those are their names.

8/10 episode.

Norman_Smiley posted...

Was Hyundai a big sponsor of this show? Seems like new vehicle, hyundai. old vehicle, could be anything and odds are it barely works / gets flipped easily.

Yes.

Norman_Smiley posted...

Was Hyundai a big sponsor of this show? Seems like new vehicle, hyundai. old vehicle, could be anything and odds are it barely works / gets flipped easily.

Yep, their deal with Hyundai started in season 2. They even had Hyundai presents scenes from the next episode at the end of some episodes lol.

That Sophia reveal is one of the coolest moments ever in television imo

Shablagoo posted...

That Sophia reveal is one of the coolest moments ever in television imo

I was really mad at her. I mean wtf all she had to do was stay where she was. Her fate was very frustrating

sophias death is something that only happens in the show
she survives the entire comic book series

she never actually does anything though. she is basically a background character throughout the entire comic but she survives the whole thing

ive heard conflicting reasons as to why they chose to kill her off
ive heard it was because she had hit puberty early and they werent ready to age up the character yet because only season 1 and 2 dont cover very much time.

ive also heard her parents didnt realize just how violent the show was until they saw it and they didnt want her involved in it anymore

Season 2 Episode 9 - Trigger Finger

Zombies - nothing new.

Rick, Hershel and Glen are still in town at the bar and need to leave when the group for Dave and Tony show up looking for them. A gun fight ensues. When the sniper on a roof who just moments before leaps to leave because walkers are coming, ends up falling and getting his leg impaled on an iron fence post, RHG decide to save this young guy instead. This might be the biggest point of plot induced stupidity so far in the show. He was literally trying to murder them less than 2 minutes before they are saving him. And even if he can be saved, there is literally no benefit. Even Hershel asks if they should just kill him. Seriously, WTF. This enraged me the rest of the episode.

Lori of course survived. End of the episode her and Rick are talking, Rick talks about how he killed the living to protect Carl, Lori, the baby, because they are his. Lori tells Rick that Shane believes she, Carl and the baby are Shane's because Rick can't protect them as well as Shane. This felt like some Lady MacBeth shit. I wish this wasn't in this episode because it could have hit home hard instead it just felt tacked on. Also Lori and Rick had the most unsexy "undress each other" moment I've ever seen on film, which was great, felt realistic and showed their bond.

Carol reaches out to Daryl. That duo is becoming one of the most surprising in the group. Like I don't think she's in love with Daryl, but I think she loves him. Like brotherly/ familial love. I think she saw how much Daryl was hurting over Sophia and that's their connection. Clearly no one else on the farm gave half as much of a fuck as Daryl. She knows that, we know that. Interesting to see how their dynamic grows.

Maggie tries to give Hershel shit for drinking but he kind of blows her off. Glen tells her when he was in trouble all he could think of was her, she thinks that is good, he tells her it wasn't people rely on him and he needs to be present.

This is a hard episode for me. A lot of good developments, things making sense within the character, but it is all ruined because they wanted to save someone who will take some of their limited medication, has no real upside and is from an adversarial group. I can't really think of a best case scenario. It doesn't seem like his group cared all that much about them, they left awfully quick. So I don't see value as a hostage.

RIP unnamed guy who was shot by Hershel.

5/10. The plot induced stupidity hurts it way too much.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Mmmm Maggie

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Norman_Smiley posted...

A gun fight ensues. When the sniper on a roof who just moments before leaps to leave because walkers are coming, ends up falling and getting his leg impaled on an iron fence post, RHG decide to save this young guy instead. This might be the biggest point of plot induced stupidity so far in the show. He was literally trying to murder them less than 2 minutes before they are saving him. And even if he can be saved, there is literally no benefit. Even Hershel asks if they should just kill him. Seriously, WTF. This enraged me the rest of the episode.

Yeah, this is the "we're the good guys, so we help everyone" trope that a lot of main characters do in shows. I hated it as well.

Season 2 Episode 10 - 18 Miles Out

Zombies - Episode 1 of season 2, T-Dog had a real gusher of a wound and the zombies couldn't smell it. This episode, small cut on the finger and rub it on a chain link fence and a zombie can smell it from 20 feet. Not the end of the world, but I would like some consistency within each season at least. Also the two cop zombies weren't bit but still turned.

Episode was near circular. Started at what was probably the 35 minute mark and continued past.

Beth is suicidal. Well, was. Made a shallow attempt. Maybe she'll survive a bit longer than I initially thought, still doesn't seem like a long term survivor though. She did this because Andrea left her alone when she promised Maggie she wouldn't. Andrea thinks she has figured it all out on how to survive... or something I dunno. Her and Lori get into a bit.

Most of the rest of the episode was Shane, Rick and the guy they just saved going to some sort of like government vehicle parking depot or something? I dunno, there was a sign early I didn't catch, but there were buses, sheriff cars, old looking industrial buildings. Presumably, they are 18 miles from Hershel's given the episode name. Rick and Shane are going to leave the guy there when he mentions having gone to school with Maggie. This makes Rick and Shane think he might know where the farm is so they can't leave him in case he gets back to his crew. Shane wants to kill him, Rick wants to sleep on it. So they fight. This should have been the focus of the episode and what makes or breaks the episode. This has been building since early season 1. Have a 5 minute epic fight with only a handful of cuts. Have it be slow, dirty, gritty, realistic. They ruined it.

Rick and Shane end up separated after the fight, both barely hanging on at times. Rick ends up coming back for Shane, guy they were going to abandon is a decent enough driver. Rick and Shane seemingly come to an understanding at the end of the episode.

7/10 episode. A properly shot and choreographed Rick vs Shane fight could have brought it up to a 9 or a 10 as a real pay off instead of just a throw away.

its best to think of the walking dead as a soap opera with blood
characters will always make the choice that adds more drama to the show rather than the smart choice that keeps everyone alive

Zombies - Episode 1 of season 2, T-Dog had a real gusher of a wound and the zombies couldn't smell it. This episode, small cut on the finger and rub it on a chain link fence and a zombie can smell it from 20 feet. Not the end of the world, but I would like some consistency within each season at least. Also the two cop zombies weren't bit but still turned.

Wasn't there an episode that explained this?

Get ready for consistent drops In quality as you progress

Season 2 Episode 11: Judge, Jury and Executioner

Zombies - Weak enough to get stuck in mud, strong enough to rip open human and cow bellies with just a single zombie.

The entire episode is whether or not to kill stranger man. Dale is pro-life, everyone else is either pro-death or doesn't care or doesn't want the responsibility.

B plot is Carl is turning into a little shit head / is having a hard time coping with the apocalypse. When Carol mentioned Sophia being in heaven Carl turned into an internet atheist and said only idiots believe in heaven. He then goes and steals a gun from Daryl, goes down the creek where he throws rocks at a zombie stuck in the mud a bit, then starts taunting it until it gets lose from the mud, Carl loses the gun and runs off like a bitch.

The A plot is decided with death to random guy, Carl comes in with a murder boner coaxing Rick to kill the guy. Carl is a frightened at what Carl has become, and can't pull the trigger and decides to spare the guy.

Then Dale is out walking around, finds a cow with its guts everywhere, and then the zombie that Carl was taunting attacks him. Dale isn't bitten but his belly is ripped open and his innards are fondled by the zombie.

Everyone comes running, Dale can't be saved, Carl comes last after being told to stay in the tents, sees the zombie was the one from the creek and cries like the bitch he is because he realized his dumb-assery just killed Dale.

RIP Dale.

9/10 episode. Basically a bottle episode but well done. Any high profile death adds drama and given the point of Dale's character, makes sense for him to die as he realizes the way of the old world is dead to.

Always felt like Dale could have had staying power too, he was a different perspective.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Always felt like Dale could have had staying power too, he was a different perspective.

Such a random death

Season 2 Episode 12 - Better Angels

Zombies - Lots of stuff. Going back to when they first tried to kill the guy, we have 2 instances of resurrections with no bite, both Randy and Shane. A few possibilities, either an everyone is already infected or a selected group are already infected. Like last years cold was actually the zombie virus. Or water born that somehow got into all our drinking sources anyone that was on city water has it or something? I seem to remember a lot of dead bodies in cars with fully intact skulls, though. And like what about the dead people zombies feed on? Like if everyone turns, then they have 2 minutes to 8 hours to devour the corpse. But it seems like some of those corpses gotta be hella old but haven't turned. I dunno, doesn't add up.

As Shane turned we the audience saw flashes of zombies / zombies chewing or feeding. I think this was meant to show the extent of Zombie Shane's thoughts? Also a nearby zombie horde reacted. Was that to the gun shot or was that to Zombie Shane awakening and being a zombie leader causing all the nearby zombies to converge on Zombie Shane?

Overall episode was about the aftermath of Dale, moving everyone inside, increasing security of the farm, Carl feeling responsible, Shane snaps and goes crazy mid episode. Decision is made to relocate Randy really far out of town. Shane's having none of that, stages an escape and takes Randy out to the woods to kill him by breaking his neck. Then comes back to tell the crew that Randy hit him and took his gun and went that-a-way. His ploy all alone was to get Rick on some hill and kill him.

The night shot, rick and shane silhouette on the slightly rolling land scape, moon in the background beautiful.
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Low res but I'm sure you remember this shot if you saw the show.

How it unfolded was great. Couldn't ask for better. At first I'm thinking Shane pulls but Rick is faster. Then when Rick is showing passive, I'm thinking aw, he was playing 3d chess, T-Dog had an empty gun and that is what Shane has. Then I'm thinking oh shit, maybe Shane will kill Rick. Then nope, knife the lung/ heart. Fatality. Rick can really emote, though I with he could learn to pull back just a hair.

As Rick crouches over a dead Shane, Carl comes up. He points the gun seemingly at Rick but Shane is getting up in the background. Carl kills Zombie Shane. Cold blooded. Can't kill the random creek zombie but can kill a quasi parental figure. Earlier in the episode Carl was told to grow up, no more being a kid. He took that shit to heart.

10/10. Favorite episode of the series since the first episode. I could nit pick but the pay off to Shane and Rick and how that unfolded was masterful. I think I still would have rather Shane somehow end up on one of the spin offs, but this was great.

Losing Shane was the hardest imo, even as the story progresses. I liked his character and even though he was a meathead, you need guys like that in a survival situation. I did not anticipate him going so fast, I thought he would be in it for the long haul and many seasons.

Losing Shane to me means that now the group HAS to grow. Like ok, you can maybe believe a combo of Rick and Shane being worth 10 random guys in a gun fight. But that is the two of them specifically being long term partners and knowing how each other thinks and will react in a given situation.

But like Rick and Daryl, ok maybe they are worth 4 random guys because each has individual high merit, but they are missing that connection. With the size of they group, they need like.. 5-10 more people to just be able to cover their own asses. 14 is way too small, especially when they know a group of 30 is out there that sounds none too friendly.

shane tried to rape lori
pointed a gun at rick
murdered otis
lied to the group in an attempt to take over
tried to murder rick again

after all that ill never understand how people think shane was a necessity to the group rather than a liability
if he would turn on his best friend he would turn on any member of the group on a whim

I'm glad you liked episode 12 TC. I had to resist so hard not to say anything when you were mad about how episode 10 played out lol.

But yeah, Shane was a massive liability, he had to go.

Fun fact, Shane lasted way longer in the show than in the comic. He dies in issue six which I think is way before they leave Atlanta. Carl shot him when he tried to kill Rick.

yes comic shane never makes it to the farm
the farm itself in the comics is only briefly visited

A 20 second recap of Season 2 episodes 1-4

https://youtu.be/7j-Y1eS0uF4

yusiko posted...

shane tried to rape lori
pointed a gun at rick
murdered otis
lied to the group in an attempt to take over
tried to murder rick again

after all that ill never understand how people think shane was a necessity to the group rather than a liability
if he would turn on his best friend he would turn on any member of the group on a whim

With the exception of trying to rape Lori (weird sentence) he was right about everything

Rick was wrong

Oh, another thing I forgot to mention. Since the episode where Rick kills Tony and Dave, he's been wearing random clothes. Not sheriff, not black. I was kind of thinking if Rick was going to kill someone, they'd have him wearing black going forward. So that was another part that got me a bit surprised with the actual killing of Shane.

UnfairRepresent posted...

With the exception of trying to rape Lori (weird sentence) he was right about everything

Rick was wrong

Lol he was RIGHT in his murder and multiple attempted murders???? Even for the king of contrarians this is a bit far.

Shane was definitely right about Randy. That dude should never have been rescued to start with. One of the many reasons I just really didn't like season 2 (like 1, some of 3, most of 4, and some of 5/6 then quit because of how bad the ending was to 6 imo.)

That being said, Shane was otherwise pretty unhinged and did a lot of stupid shit. His emotional tendencies towards Lori made him a 100000% liability even if his survival instincts were good.

Season 2 Episode 13- Beside the Dying Fire

Zombies - Extreme herding. They came from Atlanta. First spooked by the helicopter Rick saw but no one else did. Relatively flammable. Not put down immediately though, so seemingly a flaming zombie would be even more dangerous to the living.

Episode directly follows last episode. Herd is on the edge of the farm. Rick and Carl are separated, Hershel doesn't want to leave, group wants to fight back. The herd is too large, they have to abandon the farm.

At first it is looking like Rick, Hershel and Carl are together, Daryl and Carol, Glen and Maggie, and T-Dog, Lori and Beth. Each in a different group. But by end of the episode they get back together. I'm not sure that is the right choice. Having a bit of a journey to get back together would have been my choice. The group thinks Andrea is dead, but she managed to survive, stumbled into the woods and met some woman with a katana and two zombie slaves on chains with no arms. For some reason she kills Andrea.

I have a feeling if Andrea doesn't tag back up with the group soon, like early season 3, she will turn into a villain. Like running a gang whos sole purpose is to kill Rick or something.

Once back together, the group is falling a part. Rick tells Lori he killed Shane. She is upset with him, even though I'm pretty sure when I made the Lady MacBeth reference before, she was all but telling Rick to kill Shane. So WTF Lori? I'm having a hard time figuring out if Rick is a good actor or not. Like he has moments that are awesome. But his "I killed shane" monologue didn't hit how I would expect the telling your wife you killed your best friend would.

He then tells the group, including Carl, he killed Shane. Also a bit earlier he tells them that everyone is infected. Jenner told him. Seems stupid he didn't tell. That shit matters. Imagine Beth succeeded in her suicide and then bites a mourning Maggie. WTF Rick. Stupid move.

RIP Jimmy and Patricia. Jimmy died a fools death. He should have stopped the RV for no more than 5 seconds and then got moving again but going in reverse. Patricia... that seemed totally unnecessary. Like they just wanted Hershel and his girls from the farm. No one else.

Last episode was RIP Shane and Randy but I forgot to say that explicitly.

Rick is back in black now in this episode. He didn't kill anyone this episode though, so my theory he was going to wear black when he kills people is apparently bunk. Oh well.

Not the end of the world to have characters die unnecessarily in zombie fiction, but neither of them got to really make a mark.

Episode: 8/10. A zombie hoard is good, I suppose I am glad they are still showing the danger of zombies in the world. I was actually expecting Randy's gang to be the people to kick them off the farm through violence. Episode 12 was too much of a high with multi-episode pay off for this episode to stay as high.

Season thoughts next post.

jimmy and patricia were kind of just there
so they used the finale just to cut out all the most irrelevant characters

jimmy was made just for the show and he was actually supposed to die the same episode dale did. instead of dale finding a walker eating a cow dale was supposed to find a walker eating jimmy

dont know why they changed that.

patricia was a comic character where she actually had more screen time and didnt die on the farm

Season 2 - 8/10. Not quite as good as Season 1, but I think that is in part because it was more than twice as long. Some of the pacing was slow, but they did some good with it as well.

Rick's character is starting to take shape. First season he was just like empty protagonist to project yourself onto. Second season, he's methodical, he likes to think he is decisive but he really isn't, seems neutral to violence, really isn't that great of a leader but gets looked to as a leader. Something interesting is starting to take shape, not sure where they are going with him. At some point it feels like they are going to have to show him being a good leader. Having the group punch above it's weight, securing a good base or scavenge something awesome.

Lori's character probably had the most growth. She so could have been just a bitch. But she has some depth. I don't like all her character but it is painting a somewhat realistic picture.

Carl I am almost guessing a recast at some point. Like they have barely used him at all. It feels like they regret who they cast.

Andrea, didn't do any favors to her this season I don't think.

T-Dog I wish they would let him do something.

Hershel, BTW his shotgun has like a 50 shell stack or something. He just kept firing with never reloading. But I think I am liking Hershel.

Maggie and Glen had good growth this season. Maggie is seeming way more real now than she was first couple of episodes. And Glen is probably making out best out of the apocalypse of anyone.

I am interested in seeing how things go from here. Their group is either too big or too small right now. They either need to get up to like 30 people minimum, and that's if they can find a really good defensible location, or they need to shrink in size to like 6 or 7 if they are going to be a mobile scavenger group. 10 is going to be too many mouths to feed if youre mobile. Daryl and Glen will always supply a surplus of calories, but who else will?

They are in Georgia, but still winter will be something they have to survive. And weather in general. That is a big killer. They could go north and use the winter to their advantage. But I'm guessing shooting multiple locations is too expensive if they were already cutting budget after season 1.

Eventually the group should get competent at killing zombies via melee weapons. Zombies should never go away as a threat, but humans are always the biggest threat in the apocalypse. I don't think this group right now is it all positioned to handle any sort of real human threat right now. Like Randy's gang shows up now? Daryl is the only survivor.

It might still be early enough to proactively recruit. Like ham radio with good range or something. That's risky but only gets riskier long term.

Anyway, good season, still lots of potential for where this can go. Now, given that Project Zomboid is what got me to watch this, here are my PZ hints or tips for the survivors out there:

1) Base: Totally board up / destroy first floor entryways. Have base accessible for rope ladder only.
1.a) Base: Consider destroying all stair wells for super zombie proof. It depends on how well you can secure the first floor.
2) Fences: Have layers of fences. Outer layers should be solid to stop zombies from seeing in, inner fences should be chain link so you can keep visibility. Cars, trucks, buses should be used to secure entrance.
3) Have at least 2 exits. Try to make at least 1 exit not obvious.
4) Always wear a back pack.
5) Your back pack should have water, food, weapon, a bit of clothing.
6) Get fat when you can.
7) Must secure high value loot. Guns are needed but ammo is even more important.

Season 3 Episode 1 - Seed

6 months later...

Zombies - Seem maybe a bit slower? Could just be they haven't seen fresh meet in a while.

The group has been apparently going around in circles, surrounded by hoards everywhere. They have been sticking to rural areas and going door to door. Carl was looking happy to eat dog food, so things aren't going great.

During a break, Daryl and Rick come across a prison (nice map they had that doesn't mention it).

First night they waste a shit ton of ammo clearing out the inner fence. That was stupid. They had 2 fences. Kill the walkers on the outside fence, then kill the walkers on the inside. They could have done away with the entire group without firing more than a couple of shots. And if the inner wall zombies came out, who cares? You need to take care of them anyway.

Group is definitely rushing too much. You gotta slow down Rick. They are starting to use group melee tactics, but they aren't always choosing the right weapons for the job. Clearing the prison cells, I'd have like everyone but daryl with a spear.

Hershel in a rush got bit by a zombie sitting down looking dead. Rick cut off his leg and a group that appears to be prisoners appears at the end. I know I said the group needs to grow but this is a hard one. On the one hand, a group of prisoners that have survived have to be somewhat sociable, I'd think. On the other, they are prisoners and you don't know what they are in for and if they are all lying to you.

Hershel suggesting to grow vegetables was smart.

I dunno. Overall the prison seems like a bad place to make a base to me. It's too public, too many other people would think of it as secure, it comes with prisoners. There are a lot of positives, but if everyone can find you, you just can't be that safe. I guess that could be how Andrea finds them and they slowly build, small groups joining them at the prison?

8/10. Good enough opening. This is probably one of the problems with binging, I'm still coming off episodes 12 and 13, so this compared to that was slower, but still intense to get the audience back into it.

i know it doesnt really add much to the plot
but its a shame you didnt mention beth singing the parting glass
its such a nice scene and beth has a great singing voice

I miss Shane

UnfairRepresent posted...

I miss Shane

oh thats sweet but i didnt go anywher...........oh you werent talking about me
now i feel bad
i much prefer sharing my name with the hero from an old western rather than walking deads kind of first villain

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Shane was definitely right about Randy. That dude should never have been rescued to start with. One of the many reasons I just really didn't like season 2 (like 1, some of 3, most of 4, and some of 5/6 then quit because of how bad the ending was to 6 imo.)

I kind of respect something I believe Rick said. I think it was after him and Shane get into that fistfight. He say something along the lines of, "Now we're almost certainly going to have to kill that boy. But we're going to take the night to think it over. Because we owe it that."

That indicated to me that Rick would have made that decision if he needed to, but at least thinking the decision over makes sure that you don't get into the habit of casually murdering people for no reason. I don't remember if that's how the situation actually turned out or not, but I do like the idea.

Yeah you got that pretty much verbatim.

How did you like Hershals infinate ammo shotgun at the end of season 2. Absolutely hilarious that scene.

Ricks character works because he has resolve and he keeps his humanity, unlike Shane would would probably go full chaos later.Anyway, youre getting to some good stuff. Enjoy.