Poll of the Day > Someone stole my medicine delivery off my porch

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Jen0125 04/11/22 12:35:09 PM #1:	I hope they enjoy the medication for my skin condition weirdos <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964198941] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>I hope they enjoy the medication for my skin condition weirdos </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/11/22 12:42:15 PM #2:	Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964199168] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Archaea_Ottoia 04/11/22 12:52:06 PM #3:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition? Sue them for what? The package is most probably insured and the sender will get their money back and ship a new container. You need to show damages of some sort to be successful in a lawsuit. Simply going "but it was medication!" isn't a valid form of damages. Even if it was for a life threatening condition, you have to show that you could not have been able to get the replacement medication in time. People really need to hop off the litigious stripper pole. --- I fear that our friend might be an offshoot of the Archaea Ottoia family. <cite>Archaea_Ottoia posted [p:964199406] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition?</quote> Sue them for what? The package is most probably insured and the sender will get their money back and ship a new container. You need to show damages of some sort to be successful in a lawsuit. Simply going "but it was medication!" isn't a valid form of damages. Even if it was for a life threatening condition, you have to show that you could not have been able to get the replacement medication in time. People really need to hop off the litigious stripper pole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 04/11/22 12:53:13 PM #4:	I had a couple bottles of tecfidera swiped off my porch back before I switched meds. All you're going to get popping those is the feeling of being hot and itchy (flushing) and a potentially fucked up immune system. And yeah, dipshit porch pirates dont seem to realize pretty much any medication that is getting delivered isnt going to be a narcotic. <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:964199436] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>I had a couple bottles of tecfidera swiped off my porch back before I switched meds. All you're going to get popping those is the feeling of being hot and itchy (flushing) and a potentially fucked up immune system. And yeah, dipshit porch pirates dont seem to realize pretty much any medication that is getting delivered isnt going to be a narcotic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 04/11/22 12:54:11 PM #5:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition? Typically you authorize them to release it without signature, which frees them of exactly that liability <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:964199459] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition?</quote> Typically you authorize them to release it without signature, which frees them of exactly that liability </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/11/22 12:57:32 PM #6:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition? When I called they said they offer the option to sign but I did not get that offer. And I also can't get another order because it's $180 after my insurance and they use a manufacturers coupon that can only be used once a month to bring the cost to $0. So I either can pay $65 for the generic with insurance or $180 for the name brand I usually get free. I'm not doing either so now I won't have this medication for a month <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964199547] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition?</quote> When I called they said they offer the option to sign but I did not get that offer. And I also can't get another order because it's $180 after my insurance and they use a manufacturers coupon that can only be used once a month to bring the cost to $0. So I either can pay $65 for the generic with insurance or $180 for the name brand I usually get free. I'm not doing either so now I won't have this medication for a month </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/11/22 12:58:21 PM #7:	Notschmendrake posted... I had a couple bottles of tecfidera swiped off my porch back before I switched meds. All you're going to get popping those is the feeling of being hot and itchy (flushing) and a potentially fucked up immune system. And yeah, dipshit porch pirates dont seem to realize pretty much any medication that is getting delivered isnt going to be a narcotic. Yeah this is literally an oral antibiotic for my skin. You can't get high off it at all. I almost wish it was my linzess so they'd have mad diarrhea when they tried to take it lol <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964199565] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Notschmendrake posted... </cite> <quote>I had a couple bottles of tecfidera swiped off my porch back before I switched meds. All you're going to get popping those is the feeling of being hot and itchy (flushing) and a potentially fucked up immune system. And yeah, dipshit porch pirates dont seem to realize pretty much any medication that is getting delivered isnt going to be a narcotic.</quote> Yeah this is literally an oral antibiotic for my skin. You can't get high off it at all. I almost wish it was my linzess so they'd have mad diarrhea when they tried to take it lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 04/11/22 1:02:37 PM #8:	Jen0125 posted... When I called they said they offer the option to sign but I did not get that offer. And I also can't get another order because it's $180 after my insurance and they use a manufacturers coupon that can only be used once a month to bring the cost to $0. So I either can pay $65 for the generic with insurance or $180 for the name brand I usually get free. I'm not doing either so now I won't have this medication for a month Shouldn't the courier's insurance cover the replacement cost? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:964199674] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>When I called they said they offer the option to sign but I did not get that offer. And I also can't get another order because it's $180 after my insurance and they use a manufacturers coupon that can only be used once a month to bring the cost to $0. So I either can pay $65 for the generic with insurance or $180 for the name brand I usually get free. I'm not doing either so now I won't have this medication for a month</quote> Shouldn't the courier's insurance cover the replacement cost? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavageGlum100 04/11/22 1:11:52 PM #9:	Jen0125 posted... Yeah this is literally an oral antibiotic for my skin. You can't get high off it at all. I almost wish it was my linzess so they'd have mad diarrhea when they tried to take it lol They can't get high off of oral antibiotic for skin, but I guarantee you they are desperate and stupid enough to try. LOL. If you see any young people with very bleached up nose hair around your neighborhood (if they are stealing it from your porch then 9 times out of 10 it's someone who lives on your block or a block very, very close by) that's definitely someone to suspect. LOL. <cite>SavageGlum100 posted [p:964199908] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah this is literally an oral antibiotic for my skin. You can't get high off it at all. I almost wish it was my linzess so they'd have mad diarrhea when they tried to take it lol</quote> They can't get high off of oral antibiotic for skin, but I guarantee you they are desperate and stupid enough to try. LOL. If you see any young people with very bleached up nose hair around your neighborhood (if they are stealing it from your porch then 9 times out of 10 it's someone who lives on your block or a block very, very close by) that's definitely someone to suspect. LOL. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aHappySacka 04/11/22 1:25:30 PM #10:	Set up a glitter bomb for them to steal next time. --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. https://i.imgur.com/91NC0Cb.mp4 <cite>aHappySacka posted [p:964200310] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Set up a glitter bomb for them to steal next time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/11/22 1:41:21 PM #11:	adjl posted... Shouldn't the courier's insurance cover the replacement cost? I mean maybe? But I'd have to pay up front and fight over it. Plus with the insurance and coupon aspects it's just going to be too convoluted <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964200713] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Shouldn't the courier's insurance cover the replacement cost?</quote> I mean maybe? But I'd have to pay up front and fight over it. Plus with the insurance and coupon aspects it's just going to be too convoluted </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/11/22 1:43:25 PM #12:	There should be a complaint system for you to inform them you did not receive the package? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964200767] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>There should be a complaint system for you to inform them you did not receive the package? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 04/11/22 2:09:36 PM #13:	As the new union is cutting into profits, Jeff Bezos will now randomly snatch 4% of delivered packages to recoup losses. Not just Amazon packages, anything. He grabbed my aunt's doortmat. --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:964201414] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>As the new union is cutting into profits, Jeff Bezos will now randomly snatch 4% of delivered packages to recoup losses. Not just Amazon packages, anything. He grabbed my aunt's doortmat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/11/22 2:26:21 PM #14:	Nichtcrawler X posted... There should be a complaint system for you to inform them you did not receive the package? I surely did but they did not offer any recourse besides paying for the new medication without any benefits <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964201894] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted... </cite> <quote>There should be a complaint system for you to inform them you did not receive the package?</quote> I surely did but they did not offer any recourse besides paying for the new medication without any benefits </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/11/22 2:26:40 PM #15:	Blightzkrieg posted... As the new union is cutting into profits, Jeff Bezos will now randomly snatch 4% of delivered packages to recoup losses. Not just Amazon packages, anything. He grabbed my aunt's doortmat. Not the doortmat <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964201901] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Blightzkrieg posted... </cite> <quote>As the new union is cutting into profits, Jeff Bezos will now randomly snatch 4% of delivered packages to recoup losses. Not just Amazon packages, anything. He grabbed my aunt's doortmat.</quote> Not the doortmat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oliver_Oliver 04/11/22 2:37:48 PM #16:	SavageGlum100 posted... They can't get high off of oral antibiotic for skin, but I guarantee you they are desperate and stupid enough to try. LOL. If you see any young people with very bleached up nose hair around your neighborhood (if they are stealing it from your porch then 9 times out of 10 it's someone who lives on your block or a block very, very close by) that's definitely someone to suspect. LOL. 90% chance it's someone in a house somewhere in the neighborhood (thieves / junkies close by are typically the ones who steal packages from porches) and 90% chance it's a younger person (those are typically the ones that most of the time don't have access to real drugs due to monetary or availability issues, so they have to rely on getting high in alternative ways). Only a 10% chance it's someone from a few miles away driving around to other neighborhoods looking at porches while driving by and 10% chance it's an older person (if it is then it's an older person who is under some type of semi-lockdown at home and can't get out beyond their neighborhood to purchase real drugs so they are roaming around to close by houses looking to see what they can find). --- Confidence? It's nothing but an illusion. <cite>Oliver_Oliver posted [p:964202251] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>SavageGlum100 posted... </cite> <quote>They can't get high off of oral antibiotic for skin, but I guarantee you they are desperate and stupid enough to try. LOL. If you see any young people with very bleached up nose hair around your neighborhood (if they are stealing it from your porch then 9 times out of 10 it's someone who lives on your block or a block very, very close by) that's definitely someone to suspect. LOL.</quote> 90% chance it's someone in a house somewhere in the neighborhood (thieves / junkies close by are typically the ones who steal packages from porches) and 90% chance it's a younger person (those are typically the ones that most of the time don't have access to real drugs due to monetary or availability issues, so they have to rely on getting high in alternative ways). Only a 10% chance it's someone from a few miles away driving around to other neighborhoods looking at porches while driving by and 10% chance it's an older person (if it is then it's an older person who is under some type of semi-lockdown at home and can't get out beyond their neighborhood to purchase real drugs so they are roaming around to close by houses looking to see what they can find). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 04/11/22 3:43:10 PM #17:	Jen0125 posted... I mean maybe? But I'd have to pay up front and fight over it. Plus with the insurance and coupon aspects it's just going to be too convoluted I don't see why the insurance/coupon would make it any more convoluted. The cost you have to incur to get a replacement is $180, so that's the cost that should be incurred by their insurance to cover the consequence of them failing to ensure the package was delivered securely. That you paid $0 for the initial product doesn't change the replacement value. Now, the fact that you refused a signature might mean you don't win that fight. They did offer a more secure delivery option, but you turned it down, so that probably absolves them of any shortcomings there. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:964203943] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean maybe? But I'd have to pay up front and fight over it. Plus with the insurance and coupon aspects it's just going to be too convoluted</quote> I don't see why the insurance/coupon would make it any more convoluted. The cost you have to incur to get a replacement is $180, so that's the cost that should be incurred by their insurance to cover the consequence of them failing to ensure the package was delivered securely. That you paid $0 for the initial product doesn't change the replacement value. Now, the fact that you refused a signature might mean you don't win that fight. They did offer a more secure delivery option, but you turned it down, so that probably absolves them of any shortcomings there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dmess85 04/11/22 3:45:08 PM #18:	Hopefully next time they won't steal your porch. :( --- Previewing your message before you post is for suckers. --- <cite>Dmess85 posted [p:964203993] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully next time they won't steal your porch. :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/11/22 3:49:19 PM #19:	adjl posted... I don't see why the insurance/coupon would make it any more convoluted. The cost you have to incur to get a replacement is $180, so that's the cost that should be incurred by their insurance to cover the consequence of them failing to ensure the package was delivered securely. That you paid $0 for the initial product doesn't change the replacement value. Now, the fact that you refused a signature might mean you don't win that fight. They did offer a more secure delivery option, but you turned it down, so that probably absolves them of any shortcomings there. I did not get offered a signature for this one. Sometimes I can sign for it on the website for the delivery so they can leave it but I didn't do that this time and they did not get a delivery signature. What actually annoys me is that they did their job right but my roommate saw my package and left and didn't bring it in. Then it got taken. So I don't even think the pharmacy should be responsible. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964204108] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>I don't see why the insurance/coupon would make it any more convoluted. The cost you have to incur to get a replacement is $180, so that's the cost that should be incurred by their insurance to cover the consequence of them failing to ensure the package was delivered securely. That you paid $0 for the initial product doesn't change the replacement value. Now, the fact that you refused a signature might mean you don't win that fight. They did offer a more secure delivery option, but you turned it down, so that probably absolves them of any shortcomings there.</quote> I did not get offered a signature for this one. Sometimes I can sign for it on the website for the delivery so they can leave it but I didn't do that this time and they did not get a delivery signature. What actually annoys me is that they did their job right but my roommate saw my package and left and didn't bring it in. Then it got taken. So I don't even think the pharmacy should be responsible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 04/11/22 4:32:18 PM #20:	Jen0125 posted... What actually annoys me is that they did their job right but my roommate saw my package and left and didn't bring it in. Then it got taken. So I don't even think the pharmacy should be responsible. But they are. They're legally obligated to deliver the product to you. If the package gets stolen before then, they have to send you another. They're the one who should be dealing with the theft, not you. Signatures also don't protect them. All it does is make it easier for them to deal with potential theft and reduce the risk of it. --- I'm French speaking. 32/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:964205166] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>What actually annoys me is that they did their job right but my roommate saw my package and left and didn't bring it in. Then it got taken. So I don't even think the pharmacy should be responsible.</quote>But they are. They're legally obligated to deliver the product to you. If the package gets stolen before then, they have to send you another. They're the one who should be dealing with the theft, not you. Signatures also don't protect them. All it does is make it easier for them to deal with potential theft and reduce the risk of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 04/11/22 4:42:33 PM #21:	It was me I'm sorry --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:964205410] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>It was me I'm sorry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/12/22 5:59:15 AM #22:	Oliver_Oliver posted... 90% chance it's someone in a house somewhere in the neighborhood (thieves / junkies close by are typically the ones who steal packages from porches) and 90% chance it's a younger person (those are typically the ones that most of the time don't have access to real drugs due to monetary or availability issues, so they have to rely on getting high in alternative ways). Only a 10% chance it's someone from a few miles away driving around to other neighborhoods looking at porches while driving by and 10% chance it's an older person (if it is then it's an older person who is under some type of semi-lockdown at home and can't get out beyond their neighborhood to purchase real drugs so they are roaming around to close by houses looking to see what they can find). This sounds like bullshit. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:964219840] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Oliver_Oliver posted...</cite> <quote> 90% chance it's someone in a house somewhere in the neighborhood (thieves / junkies close by are typically the ones who steal packages from porches) and 90% chance it's a younger person (those are typically the ones that most of the time don't have access to real drugs due to monetary or availability issues, so they have to rely on getting high in alternative ways). Only a 10% chance it's someone from a few miles away driving around to other neighborhoods looking at porches while driving by and 10% chance it's an older person (if it is then it's an older person who is under some type of semi-lockdown at home and can't get out beyond their neighborhood to purchase real drugs so they are roaming around to close by houses looking to see what they can find). </quote> This sounds like bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BuIIyMaguire 04/12/22 7:33:27 AM #23:	Accrovideogames posted... But they are. They're legally obligated to deliver the product to you. If the package gets stolen before then, they have to send you another. They're the one who should be dealing with the theft, not you. Signatures also don't protect them. All it does is make it easier for them to deal with potential theft and reduce the risk of it. Whats the legal backing for this? --- I missed the part where that's my problem. <cite>BuIIyMaguire posted [p:964220789] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Accrovideogames posted... </cite> <quote>But they are. They're legally obligated to deliver the product to you. If the package gets stolen before then, they have to send you another. They're the one who should be dealing with the theft, not you. Signatures also don't protect them. All it does is make it easier for them to deal with potential theft and reduce the risk of it.</quote>Whats the legal backing for this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 04/12/22 7:42:17 AM #24:	Seriously I'm disappointed in you all. First thing that popped into my mind when I read this. Sounds like a job for SPIDERMAN!!! But then I saw all the replies and I'm like, no way someone didn't say that already. But nobody did. Not one person. I am so disappointed in you all. shakes head and walks away --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:964220891] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Seriously I'm disappointed in you all. First thing that popped into my mind when I read this. Sounds like a job for SPIDERMAN!!! But then I saw all the replies and I'm like, no way someone didn't say that already. But nobody did. Not one person. I am so disappointed in you all. shakes head and walks away </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Conner4REAL 04/12/22 9:50:43 AM #26:	Get a non working but real security camera and put it in front of your door aimed at your porch. its not as good as a real security camera recording but they will think you have one and it might deter them. It also helps if you can get your hands on some security camera companys sticker that they put on doors. its not as good as having the actual service but it wont cost an arm and a leg. --- "I pet my dog I don't eat it" ~ Lemone <cite>Conner4REAL posted [p:964222922] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Get a non working but real security camera and put it in front of your door aimed at your porch. its not as good as a real security camera recording but they will think you have one and it might deter them. It also helps if you can get your hands on some security camera companys sticker that they put on doors. its not as good as having the actual service but it wont cost an arm and a leg. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 04/12/22 9:52:33 AM #27:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Its boomer humor yo. That means it's not supposed to be funny. <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:964222959] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Its boomer humor yo. That means it's not supposed to be funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 04/12/22 10:11:45 AM #28:	Conner4REAL posted... Get a non working but real security camera and put it in front of your door aimed at your porch. its not as good as a real security camera recording but they will think you have one and it might deter them. It also helps if you can get your hands on some security camera companys sticker that they put on doors. its not as good as having the actual service but it wont cost an arm and a leg. I have security cameras but they haven't been working since I got new internet. I can't figure out how to connect them and haven't called but that's my fault <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:964223348] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Conner4REAL posted... </cite> <quote>Get a non working but real security camera and put it in front of your door aimed at your porch. its not as good as a real security camera recording but they will think you have one and it might deter them. It also helps if you can get your hands on some security camera companys sticker that they put on doors. its not as good as having the actual service but it wont cost an arm and a leg.</quote> I have security cameras but they haven't been working since I got new internet. I can't figure out how to connect them and haven't called but that's my fault </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 04/12/22 10:32:03 AM #29:	Wow, that's fucked up. Stupid porch pirates. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:964223796] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Wow, that's fucked up. Stupid porch pirates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 04/12/22 1:09:31 PM #30:	BuIIyMaguire posted... Whats the legal backing for this? https://tinyurl.com/53epy3nm https://tinyurl.com/4t5ccr42 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/delivery-online-lost-packages-retail-1.5798556 (Two of the links had to be shortened due to the character limit.) The law regarding delivery is pretty much the same in the US, UK, EU, Canada, NZ, and Australia. I haven't checked other countries. Legally, a package is considered delivered if the customer, or someone on behalf of the customer, physically receives in person the package. Unless the customer personally contracted the carrier, they only have to deal with the seller. You are entitled to ask for a full refund, including shipping costs, or ask for the item to be redelivered if you don't receive it within the promised delivery date or within reasonable time if a date wasn't specified (the time may vary depending on your country, but usually it's 30 days). The seller is contractually obligated to the customer. If the carrier the seller contracted is faulty, it's up to the seller to deal with them, not the customer. If for example the delivery firm steals the package instead of delivering it, they are still not liable. The seller must refund the customer even in that case. Pro Tip: If the seller makes your life difficult or doesn't seem to want to follow the law, just ask your credit card company to do a chargeback. This obviously only works if you paid with a credit card, which is what you should always use online due to the extra protection. By the way, chargebacks are very bad for sellers because they have to pay extra fees. And when a credit card company sends too many chargebacks to any given company, they may ban them, making them unable to accept credit cards. Not being able to accept credit cards can be a death sentence to online retailers, as it's pretty much what the vast majority of customers use. Credit card companies have zero incentive to refuse chargebacks, they're being paid either way and they know that refusal means they lose a client. Yes, this basically means that the buyer has a lot of power that can be prone to abuse. But remember that without it, the retailers are the ones with that power. It's unfair for big companies with a lot of money to be able to so easily abuse customers. Let's turn the tables around and ask for a chargeback. If you abuse it, it's up to the retailer to prove it and do the steps necessary to sue you. Now you're the one with the advantage. It's basically a UNO Reverse card. --- I'm French speaking. 32/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:964227752] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>BuIIyMaguire posted... </cite> <quote>Whats the legal backing for this?</quote>https://tinyurl.com/53epy3nm https://tinyurl.com/4t5ccr42 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/delivery-online-lost-packages-retail-1.5798556 (Two of the links had to be shortened due to the character limit.) The law regarding delivery is pretty much the same in the US, UK, EU, Canada, NZ, and Australia. I haven't checked other countries. Legally, a package is considered delivered if the customer, or someone on behalf of the customer, physically receives in person the package. Unless the customer personally contracted the carrier, they only have to deal with the seller. You are entitled to ask for a full refund, including shipping costs, or ask for the item to be redelivered if you don't receive it within the promised delivery date or within reasonable time if a date wasn't specified (the time may vary depending on your country, but usually it's 30 days). The seller is contractually obligated to the customer. If the carrier the seller contracted is faulty, it's up to the seller to deal with them, not the customer. If for example the delivery firm steals the package instead of delivering it, they are still not liable. The seller must refund the customer even in that case. Pro Tip: If the seller makes your life difficult or doesn't seem to want to follow the law, just ask your credit card company to do a chargeback. This obviously only works if you paid with a credit card, which is what you should always use online due to the extra protection. By the way, chargebacks are very bad for sellers because they have to pay extra fees. And when a credit card company sends too many chargebacks to any given company, they may ban them, making them unable to accept credit cards. Not being able to accept credit cards can be a death sentence to online retailers, as it's pretty much what the vast majority of customers use. Credit card companies have zero incentive to refuse chargebacks, they're being paid either way and they know that refusal means they lose a client. Yes, this basically means that the buyer has a lot of power that can be prone to abuse. But remember that without it, the retailers are the ones with that power. It's unfair for big companies with a lot of money to be able to so easily abuse customers. Let's turn the tables around and ask for a chargeback. If you abuse it, it's up to the retailer to prove it and do the steps necessary to sue you. Now you're the one with the advantage. It's basically a UNO Reverse card. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
magemaximus 04/12/22 1:22:37 PM #31:	i work for the post office and deliver meds all the time. --- You can't persuade fanboys. You'd be better off trying to convince a wall. ~CodeNamePlasmaSnake~ <cite>magemaximus posted [p:964228105] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>i work for the post office and deliver meds all the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 04/12/22 1:27:20 PM #32:	I really think that there are two kinds of people, people that are normal, and people that should go in a big hole we dig in the ground. I would belong in the hole too, but I wouldn't jump in until I was done helping. --- why am I even here <cite>Yellow posted [p:964228235] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>I really think that there are two kinds of people, people that are normal, and people that should go in a big hole we dig in the ground. I would belong in the hole too, but I wouldn't jump in until I was done helping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Interstella5555 04/12/22 1:57:28 PM #33:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition? This is the most "Shit American's Say" thing I've ever seen. <cite>Interstella5555 posted [p:964229001] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like something that should not just be left on one's porch. Sue the delivery company. What if that medication is for a life threatening condition?</quote> This is the most "Shit American's Say" thing I've ever seen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Adam_Savage 04/12/22 2:54:47 PM #34:	he's not even from or in america --- seems like i'm fading, and that makes me terrified, because i'm not who i want to be <cite>Adam_Savage posted [p:964230460] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>he's not even from or in america</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/12/22 5:19:57 PM #35:	It was just the "American" answer. Post 12 is more in-line with what I actually think. While it is obviously never guaranteed, most companies have a system in-place for lost deliveries, you do need to inform them to get it going. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964234587] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>It was just the "American" answer. Post 12 is more in-line with what I actually think. While it is obviously never guaranteed, most companies have a system in-place for lost deliveries, you do need to inform them to get it going. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 04/12/22 5:30:11 PM #36:	Notschmendrake posted... Its boomer humor yo. That means it's not supposed to be funny. Bah, I ain't a boomer and it isn't even about that. This is POTD!!! That should have been like the first or second response. Something is wrong. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:964234808] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Notschmendrake posted... </cite> <quote>Its boomer humor yo. That means it's not supposed to be funny.</quote> Bah, I ain't a boomer and it isn't even about that. This is POTD!!! That should have been like the first or second response. Something is wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/13/22 1:22:49 AM #37:	Adam_Savage posted... he's not even from or in america Yet --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:964245390] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Adam_Savage posted...</cite> <quote>he's not even from or in america</quote> Yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/13/22 3:16:27 AM #38:	Revelation34 posted... Yet Please do not threaten me like that. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964246615] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Yet</quote> Please do not threaten me like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/13/22 11:32:54 AM #39:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Please do not threaten me like that. You're fine for now but there will eventually be a republican as president again. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:964252881] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote> Please do not threaten me like that. </quote> You're fine for now but there will eventually be a republican as president again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/13/22 12:19:08 PM #40:	Indeed, the eventual invasion of my country by the US is already codified into US law, no further presidents required. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964253983] in Someone st... [t:79981187]...</cite> <quote>Indeed, the eventual invasion of my country by the US is already codified into US law, no further presidents required. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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