Board 8 > Elden Ring Topic 12: Precious Item Ahead

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I'm not sure why message writer Corrik actually gets involved in this conversation at all unless he just... Felt like it.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I'm not sure why message writer Corrik actually gets involved in this conversation at all unless he just... Felt like it.

How sure have you ever been about Corrik doing anything in a game of Mafia?

Corrik7 posted...

It's a slew of words. If Corrik were x, he would be *stupidword that rhymes with corr* ik.

If Corrik were hidden in Elden Ring, he would be lore Corrik

I went back to see if Corrik mentioned this about the message at the start of the day. At the beginning of the day, you posted this.

Corrik7 posted...

Ben you got some explaining to do.

Corrik, I thought you said i was confirmed third party for the entire game? Why then would i have explaining to do? You were adamant there was no possibility for me to be town at the of day 2

PunishedBen posted...

I went back to see if Corrik mentioned this about the message at the start of the day. At the beginning of the day, you posted this.

Corrik, I thought you said i was confirmed third party for the entire game? Why then would i have explaining to do? You were adamant there was no possibility for me to be town at the of day 2

Because you are the independent. It's like common sense.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

How sure have you ever been about Corrik doing anything in a game of Mafia?

It's not possible.

Corrik7 posted...

Because you are the independent. It's like common sense.

So before this moment where i needed to explain myself you were leashing me? Because it looked like you were lynching me

PunishedBen posted...

So before this moment where i needed to explain myself you were leashing me? Because it looked like you were lynching me

What?

I have said you are independent for basically the entire game since you came out about it.

And, yes, you will definitely be the correct lynch down the road if things go awry. Right now, we get the last scum and we win. You kind of have to try and find scum with us because you know you're on a timer now with 1 scum left.

Like I said, the chances of the message writer being scum is very unlikely. It is definitely not town though like you tried to frame it.

My brain says the safe play here is lynch igcd and we have enough info to figure out what needed to happen after that.

But to say I've been busy and then kind of frazzled when not is an understatement right now so I dont trust me and I haven't been able to just sit down and focus on the logic surrounding this.

I don't know if we have logic anymore. Those scum all died in such quick succession that we lost a lot of possible information.

Corrik7 posted...

Like I said, the chances of the message writer being scum is very unlikely. It is definitely not town though like you tried to frame it.

They are almost as scum as the remaining scum to me right now.

I'm asking why you said On day 3 I needed to explain myself if you had already decided I was third party and the optimal lynch day 2

I will admit though. I thought for sure you were going to claim that only town could jump without dying and that if scum used it they imploded because it was a confirming scan if town used jumped. That I was the bait.

Instead you backed off completely. That surprised me. So, I figured you actually were trying to paint me as scum with it instead when you backed off tbqh so that if I flipped town if anyone mislynched me that you could be like "NUH UH WASN'T ME!"

sheep is the 'trusting my reads' vote, so I am going with that. But I have made my opinion known, my god have mercy on us

let's all agree if we have a new message tomorrow no one takes it if we dont win right now. unless ulti revives and takes it again

I'm fine with analyzing the message to decide what, if anything, we do with it.

Best we can do really.

PunishedBen posted...

I'm asking why you said On day 3 I needed to explain myself if you had already decided I was third party and the optimal lynch day 2

Because you said if we rate good that you got pro-town powers to give out?

Also i realized never got a chance to laugh at it properly, but anyone that has played Elden Ring would have been immediately wary of a sign telling them to jump.

I'll take it if I survive! Probably.

Leafeon13N posted...

My brain says the safe play here is lynch igcd and we have enough info to figure out what needed to happen after that.

Do you think keeping IGCD alive and potentially clearing Isquen too is worth it?

Leafeon13N posted...

Also i realized never got a chance to laugh at it properly, but anyone that has played Elden Ring would have been immediately wary of a sign telling them to jump.

That was funny, but idk why I think Ulti might have done it purposely. It just seems like an Ulti thing to do. He always suicides in some way as Scum Vanilla lol.

Sheep007 posted...

I'll take it if I survive! Probably.

Do you think keeping IGCD alive and potentially clearing Isquen too is worth it?

50/50.

I think IGCD might be a town trap. Merely because that is a role bordering on bannable without something to counter it.

It's almost like Ulti wanted to flip scum as fast as possible so something he said prior would be looked at favorably. Why else would someone jump on a dark souls message.

I've only played I think 3 of them, but Try Jumping, Tongue But Hole, and Big Chest Ahead are like the biggest troll messages there are.

ulti literally posted ##jump in 12 seconds. unless he knew beforehand i think it's safe to say he literally did not have enough time to even comprehend what was being said, just saw the bolded command and posted as fast as he could

changmas posted...

ulti literally posted ##jump in 12 seconds. unless he knew beforehand i think it's safe to say he literally did not have enough time to even comprehend what was being said, just saw the bolded command and posted as fast as he could

You don't think he comprehended what jump was when typing it out? like lol.

in 12 seconds? no shot

changmas posted...

ulti literally posted ##jump in 12 seconds. unless he knew beforehand i think it's safe to say he literally did not have enough time to even comprehend what was being said, just saw the bolded command and posted as fast as he could

If you played elden ring, you wouldn't do it.

Do you think keeping IGCD alive and potentially clearing Isquen too is worth it?

I wanna ask this to everyone around who is left alive, actually. I'm still kinda considering letting myself die if everyone agrees that IGCD staying around is the better play (and y'all obviously have votes to do that so it's not exactly in my hands), but there's no reason to kill myself for someone who probably dies tomorrow anyway if nobody values the information they're putting out and they have any chance at all to be scum.

Trust me when I say Ulti as Scum Vanilla is almost always him trying to find a way to die to make his teammates look good. Usually a big argument where the other scum catches Ulti. Or where Scum starts the train on him or finishes him off. It's like clockwork with his scum vanilla play.

Chris can vouch that I am sure.

Corrik7 posted...

Trust me when I say Ulti as Scum Vanilla is almost always him trying to find a way to die to make his teammates look good. Usually a big argument where the other scum catches Ulti. Or where Scum starts the train on him or finishes him off. It's like clockwork with his scum vanilla play.

Chris can vouch that I am sure.

Scum Ulti uses his vanillas as literal fodder,

Doesn't Isquen possibly clear with IGCD's result tomorrow? Isquen said he no longer has actions.

That said, i will float one theory, sign guy doesn't write messages, he just fills in blanks(or submits from a selection). And it is possible he selected 1 name for that sign to be good for(corrik) and if anyone else took it then it would be death.

But again, I've mostly withheld these theories because i find them pointless. I kind of just want this one on record for potential postgame talk.

Corrik7 posted...

Doesn't Isquen possibly clear with IGCD's result tomorrow? Isquen said he no longer has actions.

how can he clear if we don't know whether we can trust IGCD's result

changmas posted...

in 12 seconds? no shot

Even if you don't think so... what did the game say to do if anyone but Mzero took the power. What did Ulti do in 12 seconds?

Corrik7 posted...

Even if you don't think so... what did the game say to do if anyone but Mzero took the power. What did Ulti do in 12 seconds?

oh for sure it was suicide in that regard

Corrik7 posted...

Doesn't Isquen possibly clear with IGCD's result tomorrow? Isquen said he no longer has actions.

Scum can have no longer have actions too

changmas posted...

how can he clear if we don't know whether we can trust IGCD's result

This feels ticketed to ending up as a Sheep lynch followed by an IGCD lynch with both flipping town and us getting very little additional information out of either.

Does not leave a good taste.

MZero posted...

Scum can have no longer have actions too

Night kill?

MZero posted...

Scum can have no longer have actions too

True.

Leafeon13N posted...

That said, i will float one theory, sign guy doesn't write messages, he just fills in blanks(or submits from a selection). And it is possible he selected 1 name for that sign to be good for(corrik) and if anyone else took it then it would be death.

But again, I've mostly withheld these theories because i find them pointless. I kind of just want this one on record for potential postgame talk.

I had the same thought when Ben said his word choice was limited.

changmas posted...

how can he clear if we don't know whether we can trust IGCD's result

If the disruption to his result is consistent then we see a drop that's consistent with what we know too. If it's not consistent or he's lying then we don't. Either way IGCD probably gets lynched tomorrow to prove Isquen anyway.

Corrik7 posted...

Night kill?

and roleblock on top too. Otherwise scum starts to look stupid weak.

but we're telling all this info to IGCD in advance. if he's faking it he'll just take that into account when he makes up his number

changmas posted...

but we're telling all this info to IGCD in advance. if he's faking it he'll just take that into account when he makes up his number

Also true.

If scum has no more actions, it means a 2 power jack? I mean... ? Or you arguing for an even night roleblocker or a one shot roleblocker? Seems silly to me.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Also true.

People can purposely choose not to use their powers tonight to see what IGCD comes up with.

I can simply choose not to use my power tonight if I don't want to for example.

If IGCD is faking it we have won the game anyway because he is a dead man walking, but I doubt that's the case.

How is he going to account for me or chang or red and so on all randomly deciding whether to use our powers? Or Sultan even.

because there's plausible deniability there. he can just say my number isn't wrong, 2 scum/3p players left are lying and as long as his number is within 2 that's viable

Well that means the bastard scum can just say they witheld powers to make IGCD look like a liar.

We have to kill IGCD to clear the game of this garbo that is stupid for a town to have in the first place

changmas posted...

because there's plausible deniability there. he can just say my number isn't wrong, 2 scum/3p players left are lying and as long as his number is within 2 that's viable

I don't think it is as much as you say it is. I am not even sure why you would argue against it.

PunishedBen posted...

Well that means the bastard scum can just say they witheld powers to make IGCD look like a liar.

We have to kill IGCD to clear the game of this garbo that is stupid for a town to have in the first place

I don't think scum can afford not to roleblock tonight due to red fear. They have to assume Red is being bodyguarded also.