Board 8 > Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia - Topic 5 - Destiny (Ablaze)

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Alive (11):
Ben
changmas
ChichiriMuyo
Chris (DoomTheGyarados)
Corrik
MZero
red13n
ScareChan
Sheep007
TidusOfTheX
Ultimaterializer

Dead (4):
IfGodCouldDie - Owain, Vanilla TOWN (LD1)
Shonen_Bat - Frederick TOWN Mason Bodyguard (KN1)
htaeD - Validar MAFIA Vigilante (LD2)
HanOfTheNekos - Kjelle TOWN Bulletproof (KN2)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends at 11:00PM GMT/06:00 PM EST on Wednesday (42 hours from now).

Unofficial Votals

[] Chris: Sheep, Corrik, Ulti, Scare
[] Chichiri: Ben
[] Red: (Ben)
[] Ulti: (Tidus)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends at 11:00PM GMT/06:00 PM EST on Wednesday (~42 hours from now).

Do we need to discuss anything more before lynching Chris today? I can put us to -1 whenever we're ready.

Who do you think my two buddies are, chang?

I am in no hurry to end the day. I would very much like some time to read through the game knowing for sure Han is town perspective as well.

That said if it really is just Chris/Ulti/Muyo and we're wasting time with an obvious answer in front of us I'm going to be disappointed. But it very well might be.

Good news you won't be bored for long.

As of now, I'd probably say MZero and one of Muyo/Red/Ulti (ordered in likeliness).

It's certainly possible that Red has been roleblocked every night to this point, but I'd still like to hear him say it just for confirmation.

Anyway time for random dead man walking observations

ChichiriMuyo posted...

I know you don't come around the Magic the Gathering topic, but over there Ulti can come off as being a bit dramatic and maybe taking things (even random luck) a bit too personal sometimes. I was just trying to gauge whether or not red fucked up the game or if Ulti was just taking it personally. Since some of the others suggest red's logic for eliminating Ulti in the situation was a bit sus, maybe it's a little of both.

This early post makes me doubt a muyo/ulti pairing.

Reading topic one page 3 makes me want to vote for myself.

red13n posted...

I am in no hurry to end the day. I would very much like some time to read through the game knowing for sure Han is town perspective as well.

I'm in no particular rush myself. I'll sleep on it and reconvene with everyone when I wake up tomorrow.

Btw post death town Chris says red is town. I am not wrong about this. With benefit of hindsight and more play red is firmly in his town meta

red13n posted...

I don't have the strong town vibes I had from death last game.

(The fact he got RNG shot still makes me a bit salty)

Never ever scum scum. Red respects death way too much to fo this early. Never scum. Remove him from sny town Chris scum teams after my death. I will fucking haunt you all.

Changmas is like 75% town but he is for sure not buddies with mzero with the epic "where is mzero?" Don't think my man is that level of scum to do that lol

Revisiting end of day 1 votals and the people saying me/ulti run into a snag

[6] IGCD: Chris, Ben, Ulti, (Corrik), Sheep, Corrik, changmas
[5] Ulti: Scare, (Ben), (Ben), (Corrik), Tidus, htaeD, red, Shonen_Bat, (Corrik)

Death is on ulti and he voted pretty late. We also know it is 2/3 likely that if ulti is scum he is Jack or the blocker, something you wouldn't want to bus. That death vote leads me to believe ulti is fine.

Who wasn't voting... igcd town on Ben. Han town. Mzero the idle and.. right muyo who tried to vote igcd late.

Judging by who we know is town this still makes 0 sense as scum/town imo

This will likely be more beneficial when the rest of you know I am town, granted.

So I was wrong thinking scum might prefer igcd so I think chang overall is looking fine in additional hindsight. None of the late votes on ulti are suspicious at all and I begin to wonder how much influence scum had this game. For app of the grumbling as of this moment town is doing well.

Corrik and death almost feels like scum theater every time they interact and I don't know if I am just paranoid of an extremely good scum corrik or if I am onto something there. Something about those interactions just bothers me.

Man han is so mean to me. He was thinking I was scummy but in real time both of my major discussions with red and changmas he said I raised a lot of good points. Han you are a jerk and I love you a lot.

Btw han explained why you shouldn't claim doctor as doctor and my response was to TAKE NOTES I low key hare all of you for not appreciating my masterful breadcrumbs.

Also

htaeD posted...

I mean if he didn't track Chris and yet somehow thats the first thing he wanted to say when he came back, that would be kinda infuriating.

Its almost like he forgot

Red is negative 99% scum at this point. No chance.

Also 307 to 311 in topic 3 is such classical town Chris trolling mafia that I hate all of you for not instantly seeing that. I was having a blast.

In conclusion every single person who has ever played with me knows I am a complete fucking control freak as scum. If you sincerely think I would let death endanger a scum buddy instead of joining on a counter train I started you are, in all honesty, delusional.

Like I know you want it. I get it but most of you know how I am as scum. You know end votes matter a lot to me. I would not let death put me and ulti in jeopardy by exposing the fact that I started that counter train day one. Voters please.

Anyway ten not me atm and 3 of you are scum

TIERS BABY

Town
Ben
Red
Tidus

Would have to be the bussiest mfer of all time/be bussed for no reason tier
Sheep
Scare (I forget if he was around at end day actually and I am tired now. Just saw his vote is on ulti)
Ult

Scanned as their weapon checking out
Chang

Epic scum theater tier
Corrik

He is a newbie, I don't want him to be scum but...
Muyo

Good content but nothing at all ruling him out as scum
Mzero

It is a personal shame for me because mzero is the only non Ben person today who wants to defend me but at present he hasn't really given the game anything great. Would love to hear his thought on the three man team not involving me though.

changmas posted...

Do we need to discuss anything more before lynching Chris today? I can put us to -1 whenever we're ready.

changmas posted...

I'm in no particular rush myself. I'll sleep on it and reconvene with everyone when I wake up tomorrow.

Chang if you are town remind me to completely adjust my radar of you after. Everything you say comes off so bad to me.

Well, you arent wrong, if somehow you are town we pretty much immediately burn Corrik.

You may begin now if you like.

red13n posted...

I am in no hurry to end the day. I would very much like some time to read through the game knowing for sure Han is town perspective as well.

That said if it really is just Chris/Ulti/Muyo and we're wasting time with an obvious answer in front of us I'm going to be disappointed. But it very well might be.

Hello red

Welcome to the game

##unvote

No early hammer today
Not yet anyways

But we are still lynching Chris

[3] Chris: Sheep, Corrik, Ulti, (Scare)
[1] Muyo: Ben
[0] red: (Ben)
[0] Ulti: (Tidus)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends at 11:00PM GMT/06:00 PM EST on Wednesday (just over 37 hours from now).

Fastbreak posted...

No early hammer today
Not yet anyways

But we are still lynching Chris

I agree, but we need to sort out what we're doing in future days. There's still enough unconfirmed players left that we can't just barrel forwards, lynch everyone who isn't town cleared and expect to win. And all of us seem to have different opinions on MZero and Muyo, at the very least. Hell, I'm basically set to clear Ulti based on D1 in my own list and you think he's probably scum. We aren't ending the day until we have stronger and more consistent reads because one of me/you/Ben is probably gonna die tonight (and frankly on the smaller chance I die I am not comfortable in the knowledge that MZero is probably lynched tomorrow as it stands).

red13n posted...

Well, you arent wrong, if somehow you are town we pretty much immediately burn Corrik.

I kind of agree here? I think in a situation where Chris is not scum Corrik almost has to be scum. Otherwise there's some batshit team composed of Chang/MZero/one of Ulti/Red/Tidus which is just... not it

Catching up

ChichiriMuyo posted...

Actually, scare, fwiw you've been less involved than death.

this feels like a newer player extending a bit too far for his buddy

For what it's worth, I wasn't entirely sure Chris was scum before. I feel like since I went off last night, his annoyance was mostly genuine. They did feel like the words of someone who is incredibly frustrated that he put so much effort into the game. He has been met by probably getting lynched D3 by people who've not put in half the time or energy he has, and all that after he claimed doctor. I do agree with Scare and think that town Chris probably just fucking annihilates scum here out of irritation? But I do also kinda buy that he could have had enough as town and is just lashing out instead of doing something more helpful.

You will notice that my vote has not changed and probably won't change for the rest of the day. However, I'm generous and would like to give you an out, Chris. A chance to really hand it to em. Also, I'm greedy and would like to see you castigate a scum mate publicly before you go. You and I have precisely one (1) overlapping scum read. I have not had a town read on him all game, you had him in your scum list earlier when I asked, along with Mayor, Ulti and a newly-scanned Chang.

Convince me that Muyo is scum. I'm only about 95% sure on you, and you're far more dangerous alive if you are scum. So I'd say you need me to be 99% sure that he's scum for it to be worth going for him over you. And you also need to convince Scare and the rest of the game while you're at it! I'm obviously willing to listen to whatever you have to say, but Muyo is the only person I'm open to lynching today other than you and that is not subject to change (if I say it does then I would kindly ask Ben slap me back to my senses).

Also, every time you argue MZero is scum instead will make me more likely to lynch you

Hey MZero

What do you think about literally every player in the game I remember except for myself calling you scum?

Sheep007 posted...

Hey MZero

What do you think about literally every player in the game I remember except for myself calling you scum?

sounds like every game i'm not confirmable

more serious answer: my lack of activity combined with the state of the game makes it hard to find a scum team I'm not on unless you are me. Between power and pro-town play

Ben
red13n
ScareChan
Sheep007
TidusOfTheX

are not getting lynched. That leaves

changmas
ChichiriMuyo
Chris (DoomTheGyarados)
Corrik
MZero
Ultimaterializer

changmas has your scan and some people think Muyo is confirmed town for no reason. The options start to get very limited

Something from Death early in topic 1: He devotes a small post to Ulti, and his next post is a small post devoted to Scare. Pretty much leaves no chance of both Ulti and Scare being scum(Could be one, but basically in no world both).

i will say thought that I don't think changmas is cleared unless you have something more than I think you have

MZero posted...

i will say thought that I don't think changmas is cleared unless you have something more than I think you have

I agree that he's not clear, as anyone who is scanned isn't fully clear, but it makes the chances of him being scum much smaller and I'm not willing to bank on them and potentially lynch him until we need to figure out which of the four outside of Chris/Muyo are scum.

You know what, Sheep, that's just some dirty fucking shit. If you want to vote for me then do it, don't fucking ask Chris to bend over backwards to "justify" it for you. Just fucking vote for me. Oh you're X% sure of this and X% sure of that? No. No you are not. I get why people are thinking Chris looks bad here, he lied. Who hasn't? Don't twist him up like he's some kind of play thing. If you think I'm scum come at me yourself. It's not his job to prove your pet theory and get punished for it at the same time.

Anyway Chris lynch is bad. We should test Scare today and revisit Chris if he's alive tomorrow. If Chris is town, this either takes two mislynches off the table as they'll likely shoot him or gives him the chance to stop a night kill while confirming Scare town. If Scare is lying we just take him out.

If Chris is town and gets shot, that puts us at 7-3. Scum needs two mislynches to win and will only have two options: me and whoever's not scum between chang/Corrik/Ulti/Muyo, barring something weird like red, Sheep, or Tidus being scum

Or if Chris is doc and stops the NK we're still at 8-3, scum needs 3 mislynches and basically have no path to victory, again unless there's scum in red/Sheep/Tidus or something

If Chris is scum, it's 7-3. He gets lynched the next day most likely and it's 6-2. This is worse than just lynching Chris today if he's scum because scum only needs two mislynches instead of 3. However they still need to hit two mislynches in three choices most likely and comfirms Scare.

I am a bit biased because I buy Chris more than I buy Scare (he didn't even claim flavor) mostly based on play and I think setup meta is almost always bad, but I think it's pretty solid!

ChichiriMuyo posted...

You know what, Sheep, that's just some dirty fucking shit. If you want to vote for me then do it, don't fucking ask Chris to bend over backwards to "justify" it for you. Just fucking vote for me. Oh you're X% sure of this and X% sure of that? No. No you are not. I get why people are thinking Chris looks bad here, he lied. Who hasn't? Don't twist him up like he's some kind of play thing. If you think I'm scum come at me yourself. It's not his job to prove your pet theory and get punished for it at the same time.

Weirdest post of the century.

I don't care. I still think you're scum, Corrik. And I think it's a dick move for anyone to force Chris "prove" I'm scum when they've said they're going to eliminate him anyway.

ChichiriMuyo posted...

I don't care. I still think you're scum, Corrik. And I think it's a dick move for anyone to force Chris "prove" I'm scum when they've said they're going to eliminate him anyway.

Weirder post.

I can't even tell alignment of this random tirade. It's just so weird. Lol.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Man. If Chriss buddies are Death/Corrik/MZero then its no wonder he checked out. No one could carry that team without extreme luck.

Death rolled over out of literally nowhere yesterday.

Corrik7 posted...

Death rolled over out of literally nowhere yesterday.

Sounds like you're personally hurt by what Ulti said there

ChichiriMuyo posted...

Sounds like you're personally hurt by what Ulti said there

What?

Ulti what was your flavor claim again?