Board 8 > B8 Yugioh MasterDuel Tournament Signup Thread 2 (Modern & Rarity Lock) [ygo]

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them both being 42 cards is just me being really indecisive. i actually think Reborn might be one of the cuts in the Harpie one which just sounds crazy to my yugiboomer brain and maybe it just needs to adjust

That's a great looking Hall of Fame

HERO:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/0/AAQluRAAC-cw.jpg

Blackwing:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/1/AAQluRAAC-cx.jpg

"Expensive" and "Trap Heavy" are the words I'd use to describe them, respectively.

Your Harpie list also looks incredibly expensive as well @kateee . Are most of the cards from the same secret pack at least?

i had to actually craft the other two Harpie Traps since I didn't pull them
Unexpected Dai is a free card iirc

pretty much all the Extra Deck stuff is from different packs but i didn't newly craft all of them this time at least. had some lying around from before like Abyss Dweller from the Mermail pack. Utopia stuff is from teh structure deck

the Barrier Statue i was particularly annoyed about because it's a fucking legacy pack card and i had to craft it.

but i don't think it's quite as expensive as it looks first glance but it still felt like quite a bit.

but i don't think anything's beating that HERO deck in terms of expenses

LOL Kalut was going to be my pick if I won the early archetype tournament too. Glad to see. :)

Sorry about bailing but real life emergencies take precedent. At least I got to play one match before shit hit the fan.

For what it's worth, I probably would have gotten rolled in the modern tournament this time, my deck was purely a fun/silly one. I'll use it next time assuming my house doesn't blow up. :D

when you initially described the problem it sounded like one of my worst nightmares

hope things are better

This was the most "fun" deck that I had, so I'll have to see what else I can figure out for Modern while still being competitive. I don't want to just win the tournament every time by playing the best deck.

Although I don't think I had the actual best deck in the tournament considering Tri-Brigade was in it.

oh yeah so there was an interaction i was curious about during my match with Sceptile

i attack with a monster (no relevant effect), Paleozoic Dinomischus gets flipped (targets face-up & banishes) and i chain Book of Moon to flip facedown but monster still gets banished.

what's up with that

I looked it up and it seems like in general, flipping things face-down doesn't make them invalid targets for cards that say face-up.

I don't know why either.

EDIT: I think it's because Dinomischus doesn't check on resolution; someone was talking about how the use of 'that target' means it checks and 'it' means it doesn't. This is quite arcane. It's a little weird because I was originally playing Dark World Lightning in that deck, and I know flipping up the target prevents Lightning from resolving, but Lightning says 'that target'. I guess that's what's really going on?

A quick search of rulings says two things:

1) If you flipped Dinomischus itself face-down, that doesn't seem to matter because Book Of Moon can't negate that already-activated effect unless the card specifically says it has to be face up to resolve, such as Scep's favorite Red Dragon Archfiend
2) If you flipped the target face down, then that doesn't seem to matter because it was face-up while targeted, satisfying the condition

hmm ok

i also found this on the wiki:

Target 1 face-up card on the field; discard 1 card, and if you do, banish it

"The application of "discard 1 card" and the application of "banish it" are treated as being done at the same time."

so yeah i guess everything is saying similar things about when the effect is actually happening

So overall, how did you all feel about the deckbuilding process and matches for EARL compared to Classic (more enjoyable, about the same, etc.)?

Some proposals for the next alt format:

XYZ Rarity Lock - Same rules as EARL but expanding the list of archetypes.

Synchro/XYZ Era - Pool of allowed cards limited to Synchro Era (everything up to ~August 2011/before XYZ) or XYZ Era (everything up to ~August 2014/before Pendulum). What I would personally have the most long-term interest in since there's a lot of decks from around this time I want to play with. Of course, the potential resources needed might be a deterrent for people.

Classic - We can revisit Classic. Would probably also include The Lost Millennium as well since it's not too big of a difference.

Randomizer - The jankiest of formats. You would be given a pool of cards to make your deck with. There could be modified rulesets here as well (Classic Randomizer, Rarity Lock Randomizer, etc.)

Let me know which (if any) you would be interested in for the next one (or even later down the line?). Again, can't have a tournament without players.

It would be really nice if Master Duel implemented some changes like a proper older format ladder or did something where getting older SR/URs easier though. But I think the biggest advantage we have as a group is having that environment where we can at least play a couple matches with older cards. I would love to play all day in 2013-14 format but if I make a deck, I can't exactly play randoms with it expecting the same power level.

Any of the first three, I'm exceedingly likely to run back a deck I've already played (Flame Sprite for Classic or some form of classic Monarchs for the others, even if they get worse the more cards you add) considering I'm in the process of blowing all of my deck building resources as discussed in the other topic.

Randomizer seems interesting, but I'd *really* encourage not using Master Duel for that one.

First, I liked EARL much more than Classic. I found there were plenty of interesting cards available in the format, even at the lower rarities, whereas I didn't find too many Classic cards interesting even including higher rarities. The obvious corollary from that is that I don't want to return to Classic.

I wouldn't mind an XYZ era format, because I played a fair bit of YGO at that time, but I'll have a really hard time making a deck for that in Master Duel, I think.

Are there are possibilities for formats that aren't based on a specific timeframe? I'm struggling to think of what that would entail. A pure common only, or common/rare only format, certainly. Randomizer is the only one that qualifies of what you mentioned, and that's interesting to me, I just don't know how easy it is to execute.

I do agree that a generic rarity lock format with no archetype or timeframe restrictions might be cool. And I actually do have the resources to make that in Master Duel if it's N/R only

Generic rarity lock would be cool, seeing as I have a gouki deck and a fluffal deck built around using as many commons and rares as I could, so they would be easy to edit.

As far as your list, I'd be okay with Synchro or XYZ Era.

I don't know if anyone's familiar with Cimooooo, but he has a fun series where they do simulated pack openings then have to build decks around what they draw. I think that'd be a good way to do a Randomizer, although I agree it probably shouldn't be on Master Duel. So we're not blowing points on cards we're never going to use again.

I'm also going to support the rarity locks across the board. Even though I'm garbage at it haha.

I would at least prefer to do XYZ rarity lock before general reality lock. I'm guessing people would play newer archetypes for general anyway and I'd want to compare the three formats.

Sceptilesolar posted...

Are there are possibilities for formats that aren't based on a specific timeframe? I'm struggling to think of what that would entail.

If anybody has ideas, feel free to suggest them. I did look into what was out there but most of the ideas I saw that weren't timeframes limited involved changing the rules which couldn't be done on Master Duel (e.g. level 5s and up don't require tributes, both players playing from same deck).

Draft/sealed mode was also an idea. Either with everyone having access to same pool of cards or people actually doing a draft so only the person who picks a card could play it.

BetrayedTangy posted...

I don't know if anyone's familiar with Cimooooo, but he has a fun series where they do simulated pack openings then have to build decks around what they draw. I think that'd be a good way to do a Randomizer, although I agree it probably shouldn't be on Master Duel.

Yess. I thought of suggesting a Progression series on B8 when I first came across it but it seemed like too much of an effort

Also, I don't know how much support this would get but taking a break from Modern and doing two alt formats one week is also on the table e.g. a form of rarity lock on Master Duel and randomizer on Dueling Book

BetrayedTangy posted...

I don't know if anyone's familiar with Cimooooo, but he has a fun series where they do simulated pack openings then have to build decks around what they draw. I think that'd be a good way to do a Randomizer, although I agree it probably shouldn't be on Master Duel. So we're not blowing points on cards we're never going to use again.

That sounds cool to me.

Also in that vein, a Sealed Deck tournament.

The first 3 scenarios all sounds cool to me.

kateee posted...

Synchro/XYZ Era - Pool of allowed cards limited to Synchro Era (everything up to ~August 2011/before XYZ) or XYZ Era (everything up to ~August 2014/before Pendulum). What I would personally have the most long-term interest in since there's a lot of decks from around this time I want to play with. Of course, the potential resources needed might be a deterrent for people.

This is the one that interests me the most, for sure. I think there is value to having an expanded card pool in a limited format. I know some aren't a huge fan of specific formats, but there is something similar to Goat format called Edison format that captures this period in time pretty well.

In terms of rarity lock for all cards, that's also fine, but there are legit meta decks available right now with only N/R cards, like Phantasm Spiral, so those would dominate there.

Other non time-limited wacky format ideas. Restrictions may apply

Rituals - type of summoning mechanic that gets overlooked a lot

Various other theme decks e.g. animal decks where every card needs to have a cat or something

Letter - all cards start with a certain letter

It could also be fun to build decks around the anime characters

I'm planning to post the next signup thread tomorrow or Saturday for Modern and XYZ rarity lock (will include synchro era archetypes as well). Seems like it's the easiest for now since not a lot is going to change.

As a heads up, I won't be available the weekend of the 12th-13th as I'll be away on vacation, so I'll have to get in on the next one.

I'd be down to help anyone with some testing leading up to it, though.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79928530

new signup topic

Have 6k gems, need to decide on a new deck to make. I really don't want to make one of the super popular decks... But I may have to if I ever want to hit platinum.