Poll of the Day > How is there even a habitable place north of Skyrim?

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It's like if I told you humans were born in Antarctica. Did Nirn have an ice age or something?

NeoSioType posted...

It's like if I told you humans were born in Antarctica. Did Nirn have an ice age or something?

I kinda got the impression humans were leaving Atmora due to it becoming colder, but I don't know if it is ever really specified.

*Shrug* I mean you got places like Iceland being fairly habitable despite being so far north due to currents so maybe something similar?

NeoSioType posted...

How is there even a habitable place north of Skyrim?

Magic.



NeoSioType posted...

It's like if I told you humans were born in Antarctica.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Land



BlackScythe0 posted...

I kinda got the impression humans were leaving Atmora due to it becoming colder

There's also at least some implication if you read really deep into the lore that they weren't humans who left Atmora. They were dragons that became humans when they first landed in Skyrim.

Doesn't one of the races have extra cold resistance or something? I forget.

wolfy42 posted...

Doesn't one of the races have extra cold resistance or something? I forget.

Probably nords.

Revelation34 posted...

nords

Ayup, that's it.

• Resist Frost: Your Nord blood gives you 50% resistance to frost.

So basically the race is magically able to live in the freezing cold.

Im not even sure how Argonians are able to function properly in a cold place like Skyrim. They must be slightly different than ordinary lizards. I do have a head canon that if they are werewolves, the cold doesnt effect them as much. (Why the heck would reptiles turn into freaking wolves?! Werecrocodiles are a thing in Elder Scrolls lore. Is it location based?)

I mean there's probably somebody living in Atmora, but overall it's a barren, frozen wasteland.

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Im not even sure how Argonians are able to function properly in a cold place like Skyrim. They must be slightly different than ordinary lizards. I do have a head canon that if they are werewolves, the cold doesnt effect them as much. (Why the heck would reptiles turn into freaking wolves?! Werecrocodiles are a thing in Elder Scrolls lore. Is it location based?)

Argonians came from tree-like aedra

I hope TES7 is Black Marsh. We need to stop the Hist before they mind control all of Tamriel!

It's more like Alaska than Antarctica

papercup posted...

I hope TES7 is Black Marsh. We need to stop the Hist before they mind control all of Tamriel!

I want Elsweyr the most.

Revelation34 posted...

I want Elsweyr the most.

skooma addict

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Magic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Land

There's also at least some implication if you read really deep into the lore that they weren't humans who left Atmora. They were dragons that became humans when they first landed in Skyrim.

The awful thing is that wikipedia article is written as if it's real and not some fantasy shit.

Judgmenl posted...

The awful thing is that wikipedia article is written as if it's real and not some fantasy shit.

What?

BlackScythe0 posted...

What?

The Savage Land is a hidden prehistoric land appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. It is a tropical preserve hidden in Antarctica. It has appeared in many story arcs in Uncanny X-Men as well as related books.

Judgmenl posted...

The Savage Land is a hidden prehistoric land appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. It is a tropical preserve hidden in Antarctica. It has appeared in many story arcs in Uncanny X-Men as well as related books.

No I meant I read the wikipedia article and I didn't see it as though it were real.

If you were born and raised in Atmora and you had to deal with that shit your whole life its probably not a big deal. People live in places like Russia, Canada, Alaska, the Midwest, etc. In real life too so its not that crazy.

Judgmenl posted...

The awful thing is that wikipedia article is written as if it's real and not some fantasy shit.

No, the awful thing is that they write those sorts of articles in chronological order of events in-universe, not based on when stories were told in real time, which means terrible modern retcons are woven directly into the description right from the beginning.

It seems like modern writers are just so bad at writing anything interesting, their go-to strategy is to constantly go back and break things that other better writers wrote decades ago. Which is sad.

Muscles posted...

If you were born and raised in Atmora and you had to deal with that shit your whole life its probably not a big deal. People live in places like Russia, Canada, Alaska, the Midwest, etc. In real life too so its not that crazy.

Actually that reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4ZMLsPzqM

Why are you questioning the shaky lore of TES when you could be buying Skyrim for the 10th time?

ParanoidObsessive posted...

There's also at least some implication if you read really deep into the lore that they weren't humans who left Atmora. They were dragons that became humans when they first landed in Skyrim.

Pretty sure most of the really old "lore" is all bullshit. Like how the Tsaesci "ate all the men in Akavir" but it's implied that "ate" really means "dominated the culture of."
Like Tiber Septim had Akavirii soldiers in his armies, and they weren't snake people

Zareth posted...

Pretty sure most of the really old "lore" is all bullshit. Like how the Tsaesci "ate all the men in Akavir" but it's implied that "ate" really means "dominated the culture of."

Like Tiber Septim had Akavirii soldiers in his armies, and they weren't snake people

It also doesn't help that a lot of the old lore was basically written by a single guy, and he was kind of an insane genius. But he doesn't work there now so the current staff has to try and figure out what he intended and what stuff meant and whether or not they still consider certain things canon or not.

But it's also a setting very heavy with ideas of transformation and metaphysical bullshit, so it's also hard to tell what's supposed to be metaphor and what's supposed to be literal. And whether the in-game information sources you're reading are even accurate, or just someone in-universe misinterpreting things.

I mean, the underlying plot of the Thalmor in Skyrim is that they're effectively trying to kill God and destroy the universe so they can go back to being gods themselves. But no one ever explicitly says that or spells it out for you. So it sort of comes across like the Thalmor are just kind of assholes. Meanwhile you yourself are a pseudo-reincarnation of multiple people (including a god) because reincarnation and avatarhood works really, really weirdly in the Elder Scrolls universe. So most people miss the deeper themes. Especially if they don't have the patience to read every single book they come across (and obsessively string bits and pieces of info together across multiple games).