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Zikten
03/02/22 8:32:10 PM
#351:


CyricZ posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/8/AAACPvAAC_NU.jpg Gura why

Lol nice
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Voidgolem
03/02/22 8:41:07 PM
#352:


i didn't know there even -was- a body hair slider, truly an educational playthrough

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legendarylemur
03/03/22 1:00:28 AM
#353:


I dunno if there's a Vtuber I've seen that actually went far in Elden Ring. Probably some dudes in Nijisanji globally have done it, but none of the people I usually watch. I wanna see their reaction to things like the Dragon Burnt Ruin, which is early game, chest trap... Man if you get that shit literally the first thing in the game, you need genuine luck to get out

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LordFarquad1312
03/03/22 7:04:52 AM
#354:


legendarylemur posted...
I dunno if there's a Vtuber I've seen that actually went far in Elden Ring. Probably some dudes in Nijisanji globally have done it, but none of the people I usually watch. I wanna see their reaction to things like the Dragon Burnt Ruin, which is early game, chest trap... Man if you get that shit literally the first thing in the game, you need genuine luck to get out
I just ran for my life and managed to find the exit

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Twinklestar
03/03/22 1:12:59 PM
#355:


Zikten posted...
https://youtu.be/yt6ET2zXQ2o

During their trip, Kronii once called Fauna, well, Fauna. While in a public area. She started to panic immediately after


This is exactly something I expect to happen once in a while to vtubers during offline meeting

When you're so very used to calling your friend with his/her online name, logically a slip-up like this bounds to happen XD

Although, I think it's actually better to use their vtuber name? Provided they ensure no one heard, of course. That way they get used to only one name, so it minimizes the risk/chance that they slip-up and use real life name during a stream.
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kirbymuncher
03/03/22 2:08:48 PM
#356:


Twinklestar posted...
Although, I think it's actually better to use their vtuber name? Provided they ensure no one heard, of course. That way they get used to only one name, so it minimizes the risk/chance that they slip-up and use real life name during a stream.

some of the jp side has talked before about going out to eat as a group and essentially using codenames. like, coming up with a new name that is neither their real name nor their vtuber name

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MabinogiFan
03/03/22 4:54:28 PM
#357:


I recently learned that Gura apparently said Ame's real name in a collab shortly after debut, and people were none the wiser. Not sure if it's true though. She said Rebecca, which I think is a pretty name and suits Ame well.
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Funkydog
03/04/22 10:39:35 AM
#358:


Hololive officially opened up applications for a male English group. Maybe with Stars though it seems, rather than EN directly.

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Hop103
03/04/22 10:54:26 AM
#359:


Funkydog posted...
Hololive officially opened up applications for a male English group. Maybe with Stars though it seems, rather than EN directly.


But will they be successful, the guys in NijiEN are successful because while they are hot guys they're also mostly unhinged and not idols.

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Funkydog
03/04/22 10:59:06 AM
#360:


Hardly any of Hololive are traditional idols either though. Sure, several do "idol things" but plenty of them are perverted, swear, rage and so on.

No reason whatsoever they get won't do well - being part of Hololive will already give them a big boost and male streamers in the west dominate streaming anyway. We'll see though.

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Puglia77
03/04/22 12:33:06 PM
#361:


Whatever happened to Holo ID gen 3? I forgot if there was an update on that.

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Caelthus
03/04/22 7:36:41 PM
#362:


Hop103 posted...
But will they be successful, the guys in NijiEN are successful because while they are hot guys they're also mostly unhinged and not idols.
Have ya fucking seen the shit Haachama and marine sometimes, post?

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Balnazarr
03/05/22 1:00:39 AM
#363:


Ina and Irys kicking ass in Elden Ring. Ina took down Margit and the Giant Dragon.
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Eab1990
03/05/22 1:50:54 AM
#364:


So many clippers posting Calli's English stream in the past hour. Never seen my feed fill up so fast and varied before.

Those Laplus moments are too strong.

Also, Korone doing Click Clock Wood tomorrow.

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Puglia77
03/05/22 1:55:32 AM
#365:


Eab1990 posted...
So many clippers posting Calli's English stream in the past hour. Never seen my feed fill up so fast and varied before.

Those Laplus moments are too strong.

Sounds like a stream vod I'll need to catch later. I've been watching Koyori DDLC, and she's past the Sayori part.

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Ushiromiya
03/05/22 11:35:56 AM
#366:


Mfers need to stop leaking their discord contents.

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Funkydog
03/05/22 11:44:05 AM
#367:


Save for one person, anything I saw that in that leaked image is pretty mild to what was said on the hololive sub regarding the male auditions. People just love their drama.

But really, should make sure to not leave any discord messages open when streaming, so if they do accidently tab to it nothing gets shown.

Sucks for Kiara though. Didn't get to collab with Veibae, now likely no collab with Pomu either.

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Caelthus
03/05/22 12:49:12 PM
#368:


Funkydog posted...
Sucks for Kiara though. Didn't get to collab with Veibae, now likely no collab with Pomu either.
What happened that she couldnt collab with them?

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Funkydog
03/05/22 1:03:20 PM
#369:


Caelthus posted...
What happened that she couldnt collab with them?
Deleted message before mine referenced an accidental leak from NijiEN with some reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal minor "shit talk", so who knows if it will actually prevent a future one with Pomu. Hopefully not though.

The stuff with Vei is long in the past and something they came to an agreement with themselves after Vei had a small rant about Hololive management even more in the past and people got real upset about a collab they were going to have.

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Questionmarktarius
03/05/22 2:29:40 PM
#370:


Eab1990 posted...
Also, Korone doing Click Clock Wood tomorrow.
Has Korone played Wowowow Korone Box yet?

also here's a video of a cat for some reason
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legendarylemur
03/05/22 7:18:39 PM
#371:


At the very least, Holo has never once leaked anything that was anything remotely shittalky, just sat down and worked interacted amongst themselves, some of them even having friends in Niji. Weird how it's never the other way around, it seems. I guess the closest they ever got was Rushia if Korekore is to be fully believed

Meanwhile who the fuck does that Fulgur fuck think he is? He just debuted and thinks he's some hot shit? Vox also seems to have a big fucking head for having a single good month on his first monetization month spike. I've seen Niji have plenty of broadcast malfunctions, so I dunno what he's on about.

I know I'm probably not watching them, maybe except for poor Mysta lol...

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kirbymuncher
03/05/22 8:14:37 PM
#372:


it's all about tone, really. like, honestly basically everything in there is more or less true

  • luxiem / noctyx both absolutely masssive and setting a very high bar for eng male vtubers
  • council not performing very well compared to previous holoEN gen, hololive in general, and probably most peoples' expectations (though even then they are massive streamers in the overall scheme of things)
  • hololive seems likely to mostly keep up the gender segregation, though hard to tell for sure obviously. and if they do so I feel like they might struggle just like holostars did
  • the audition announcement is very likely at least in part due to seeing the success nijisanji had


it's just the general attitude and choice of wording here that makes it look so bad. well, it doesn't help that it's some super secret private server either since it sorta paints a negative look on anyone even remotely involved as you wonder what else they could be saying in there

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legendarylemur
03/05/22 8:20:32 PM
#373:


Ok absolutely massive but still mostly outperformed by Sana who barely streams? We don't even know if the Niji guys gen 2 are even gonna succeed. They barely even debuted. Why does Nijisanji keep getting so much pass from you lol.

Hololive segregation isn't even something they pushed of their own volition. It's because the JP idol simp culture is so toxic that that's the only thing they could do.

Also Holo opened audition permanently quite a while ago. This is just a more specific round of interviews. Why are they making it all about them? I don't even think Holo considers them a competition because NijiEN overall has only had modest success thus far.

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Voidgolem
03/05/22 8:28:45 PM
#374:


Pomu seems like good people. Outside of that I could not give less of a damn about niji and am at capacity just supporting the HoloEN gang.

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kirbymuncher
03/05/22 8:34:06 PM
#375:


legendarylemur posted...
Hololive segregation isn't even something they pushed of their own volition. It's because the JP idol simp culture is so toxic that that's the only thing they could do.
I'm not really putting blame on anyone for that, just kinda describing how it is. honestly if you wanted to put blame you could probably come up with reasons to put it on literally any party involved (e.g. the idol purists are only a problem because of the idol image that they have cultivated in the first place) but it seems sort of pointless to try and do that. it's just something that, for a variety of reasons, is kinda a core part of how hololive functions at this point.

ulltimately, my question here is whether this segregation will still continue to exist once holoEN also has male streamers and my guess would be that yes, it will. but I'd totally welcome being proven wrong


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Voidgolem
03/05/22 8:38:19 PM
#376:


I would bet "segregation" would still exist but only because the EN gang are weirdo introverts. Not because of "idol culture" or anything like that.

like Bae was very clearly dying of nerves from talking to coworkers she hadn't before during the birthday callin segment and Irys has expressed much the same despite living in an area where she could conceivably go visit in person.

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kirbymuncher
03/05/22 8:47:01 PM
#377:


Yeah I dunno, some of it is definitely on the streamers themselves too. it's kind of a weird thing where it's just a general part of the culture/atmosphere and I don't think there's any one party actualy enforcing anything but it just sorta persists anyway. Which is the main reason I don't think it's going away any time soon even with whatever new wave we end up getting out of this

I just think it's an interesting subject to think about since for years the reason given has basically just been "you can't have guys and girls doing collabs because of crazy jp idol fans" and we're about to get to the test of whether this is the sole reason or if there are other parts to it

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Voidgolem
03/05/22 8:58:13 PM
#378:


I doubt, even with auditions open, that we'll get an EN Stars even this year, if ever. The roles being open is not the same thing as finding people who fit those roles.

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Ushiromiya
03/05/22 9:31:19 PM
#379:


Haven't watched Ame in a minute (besides skimming a bit of the off-collab)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um1YIqEG9W4

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MabinogiFan
03/05/22 9:43:06 PM
#380:


Voidgolem posted...
I doubt, even with auditions open, that we'll get an EN Stars even this year, if ever. The roles being open is not the same thing as finding people who fit those roles.
I have no doubt it's gonna happen. Hololive is a huge brand right now so they're gonna get a lot of applicants. The amount of talents that'll debut is up in the air though. I'm guessing at least 3 like the ID generations do.
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legendarylemur
03/06/22 12:58:27 AM
#381:


I don't think EN fans are nearly as anal about girls collabing with guys. Because of the way Twitch is and whatnot, generally guy streamers are bigger there, and the major girl streamers frequently join popular male streamers' shows and whatnot.

But on the JP side, it's getting less toxic by the day but on a snail's pace. I still remember the time Watame had to publicly apologize for just talking about how she said hi to a Holostar member she ran into in their office. It's so stupid and completely understandable why Stars were generally dissuaded from collabing with girls ever.

I just hope Holo actually has a strategy in mind. I feel like NijiEN boys just went for the pretty boys/otome game style market. Them being mostly British probably helped a bit with the appeal. No clue why China loves them that much, but it could also be a byproduct of them jumping ship off Holo

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LordFarquad1312
03/06/22 9:23:45 AM
#382:


In other news, Wactor actually revealed personal information about a talent they firedhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/5/AAJHcPAAC_8n.jpg


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Hop103
03/06/22 1:45:42 PM
#383:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
In other news, Wactor actually revealed personal information about a talent they firedhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/5/AAJHcPAAC_8n.jpg



That's insanely unprofessional but at least Eileen milked and dunked on Wactor for what it was worth.

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R_Jackal
03/06/22 2:43:38 PM
#384:


In a business that values anonymity (or atleast the kayfabe of it all) that's kinda crazy.
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legendarylemur
03/06/22 4:24:59 PM
#385:


Yeah that sounds like a complete shitshow

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Voidgolem
03/06/22 6:40:36 PM
#386:


Fauna's emo karaoke is like being gently mauled by a small fluffy animal and it's quite fun. I can't think of many of the gang's various singing streams that just makes me smile all the way through.

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Alteres
03/06/22 6:46:50 PM
#387:


Voidgolem posted...
Fauna's emo karaoke is like being gently mauled by a small fluffy animal and it's quite fun. I can't think of many of the gang's various singing streams that just makes me smile all the way through.
I turned this on and the audio keeps switching from left to right, its weird.

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Voidgolem
03/06/22 6:48:48 PM
#388:


Alteres posted...
I turned this on and the audio keeps switching from left to right, its weird.

She's using her KU100.

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Balnazarr
03/07/22 12:42:40 AM
#389:


Ina is seriously impressive at Elden Ring.
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Twinklestar
03/07/22 12:40:17 PM
#390:


*reads previous page*

Amusingly if there's a group that's far more likely to collab with Holostars EN, I think it's not Hololive EN, it's Hololive ID

Looking at ID vtubers at a glance, it appears the "environment" of vtuber industry in ID region (as a whole, not just in Hololive ID) seems to be so different that many of the female vtubers can just go and collab with male vtubers and not cause any drama at all. In fact ID fans seems to love it to see a female vtuber collab with male ones. I still remember there's that one time a guy in Twitter complained that Ollie collabed with a male vtuber, and most of the replies are criticizing the the guy instead for essentially trying to control her.

This different situation is likely why Hololive ID has been allowed to collab with Holostars JP multiple times. I have no doubt they'll be allowed to collab with Holostars EN too.

Meanwhile, with Hololive EN, it remains to be seen how much it will be accepted if they collab with boys, because, well, how often did they do that so far? Unlike with ID, we don't have enough sample yet to be sure, I think some of the HoloEN girls haven't even talked with any boys yet, let alone a collab (Bae at least has one with Roberu, and it seems no issue came out of it, so that's something I guess).

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Regarding Wactor

I'm seriously questioning why did they do that, only reason I can think of is to reveal her identity to all vtuber companies at once, in hopes that no other company will take her in. Which is like, a special kind of petty revenge.
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Voidgolem
03/07/22 1:02:27 PM
#391:


the main problem with a theoretical EN-stars collab is that the gang are weirdo introverts.

like unless they get some amazing cast choices for the dudes I can only imagine the existing gang with like the exceptions of maybe Calli and Bae imploding into cringe singularities when trying to chat with them.

Then you get into the handful of unicorns and imageboard rejects which'll scream loudly about the dudes existing in the first place, much less interacting with the gang.

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Ushiromiya
03/08/22 11:17:19 AM
#392:


Sana sighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgzpshmBBQ

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Voidgolem
03/08/22 1:26:34 PM
#393:


Ay, she lives!

Not that that's unexpected given how chipper she's been on birthday callins, but like 3 weeks of near radio silence outside of that is pretty rare for the gang without some kind of formal announcement (as opposed to a blink and you'll miss it "hey busy til next month" during the last stream)

I'll have to check whatever it is she's done once I'm not stuck in the office :|

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Ushiromiya
03/08/22 2:21:12 PM
#394:


Just a short stream. She's dealing with a back injury/condition. Seems like something long-term, so hopefully it gets better/more manageable over time.

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Voidgolem
03/08/22 2:24:54 PM
#395:


Guess we aught to do a better job with the posture checking during 11 hour grindfests

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legendarylemur
03/08/22 3:24:03 PM
#396:


Yeah she probably should've been more transparent about it, even if that meant she might not be able to recover fully. Back problem certainly is no joke, though there are other solutions like a standing desk. I have one myself and there are plenty affordable ones

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Voidgolem
03/08/22 3:55:25 PM
#397:


I can respect the intent behind not announcing a problem until you have a better idea of how it'll develop, especially with recent events. Nobody would've enjoyed a "hey, back is ruined guess I'm done forever bye".

Utter radio silence still sorta bogus especially given that this is coming off -another- multi week stint of utter radio silence, but y'know. Not everybody is as cozy with social media on main as Kiara or Calli. Can't be too upset.

(Comparison point: Goob being downed with COVID for a week and a half had nothing but a members post 4 days in and a stream cancellation, which...is still more than Sana but hey, goob has experience)

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legendarylemur
03/08/22 9:47:29 PM
#398:


https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1501377760308039686

Matsuri wants to become Suisei's child and have her sing lullabies during bed time

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Ushiromiya
03/09/22 3:58:36 PM
#399:


Kiara teaching Ame and Egg some dance moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV5JrOYPGhM

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Funkydog
03/09/22 4:02:32 PM
#400:


And it's beautifully cursed. (at times)

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