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Lebronwon 02/02/22 3:28:22 PM #1: |
https://nypost.com/2022/02/02/suny-fredonia-professor-under-review-for-video-of-him-supporting-pedophilia/ A State University of New York at Fredonia professor is under investigation by the school after videos emerged of him defending pedophilia and insisting it wasnt obvious to him why it was wrong, according to a report. Professor Stephen Kershnar, who teaches libertarian philosophy and applied ethics at SUNY Fredonia, was filmed questioning whether pedophilia was in fact unethical. Imagine that an adult male wants to have sex with a 12-year-old girl. Imagine that shes a willing participant, Kershnar says in the viral clip shared on Twitter by Libs of TikTok. A very standard, very widely held view is that theres something deeply wrong about this and its wrong independent of it being criminalized, Kershnar continues. Its not obvious to me that its in fact wrong. I think this is a mistake. And I think exploring that why its a mistake will tell us not only things about adult/sex and statutory rape and also fundamental principles of morality, the professor adds in his jaw-dropping comments. One of the clips appeared to be from his appearance on a podcast, Unregistered with Thaddeus Russell, in December 2020. Fox News also reported that the clips were also from a YouTube video posted Jan. 30 on Brain in a Vat, which publishes thought experiments and discussions with philosophers. In the clips, Kershnar goes on to say: One is even if you are looking for a threshold. Lets say theres a threshold. Im making this number up, but lets say its at age 8. Still, that tells you that some adult sex is permissible. Second, the notion that its wrong even with a 1-year-old is not quite obvious to me, he says. There are reports in some cultures of grandmas fellating their baby boys to calm them down if theyre colicky, the professor continues, according to the Post Millennial. I dont know if this is true but this is sort of widely reported as occurring in at least a foreign culture and it working, that the grandmas believe that this actually works, Kershnar continues. If this were to be true, and again, I dont know it to be true, if this were to be true, its hard to see what would be wrong with it, he adds. Kershnar then makes the odd comparison of youngsters taking part in athletic activities and preparing for their bar and bat mitzvahs. They might think that children cant be willing things in general. Its an odd view in that they seem to will things all the time. They will participation in kickball. They will showing up and participating in bar mitzvah lessons, bat mitzvah lessons, he says. You might think that, well, maybe theres something distinct about sex that they cant really understand it. Its not clear to me that what theyre not getting at is consent, Kershnar goes on. I suspect that what they want to say is that theyre willing participants, theyre voluntary participants. They have some understanding of what is going on. Not the understanding we do, but some understanding. But they havent consented. Perhaps thats so, but thats a different claim from them being unwilling, he says. Theres a lot of activities that children engage in that they dont understand all that well. For example, when you first show up to participate in a judo tournament or when you prepare for your bar mitzvah. You have a rough idea, but its not clear how much you fully understand it, he adds. According to Kershnars LinkedIn page, he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School in 1991 and has been working for SUNY for more than 23 years. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/02/22 3:32:34 PM #2: |
At first when they said he was a philosophy and ethics professor I thought "Oh so he was going out on a limb trying to challenge the students' preconceptions of where we derive morality" but then he kept going and got to the grandma shit Put this dude away --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 02/02/22 3:34:51 PM #4: |
Lebronwon posted... libertarianLet out a real big laugh here --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelicRadiance 02/02/22 3:34:52 PM #5: |
Lebronwon posted... libertarianhttps://i.imgur.com/sohWhy9.png --- http://large.horse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Underpants 02/02/22 3:35:04 PM #6: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/8/AAfISYAAC4Sg.jpg "You look like a guy who has a nuanced opinion on the age of consent" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/02/22 3:36:56 PM #7: |
Lebronwon posted... There are reports in some cultures of grandmas fellating their baby boys to calm them down if theyre colicky, the professor continues, according to the Post Millennial. I dont know if this is true but this is sort of widely reported as occurring in at least a foreign culture and it working, that the grandmas believe that this actually works, Kershnar continues. If this were to be true, and again, I dont know it to be true, if this were to be true, its hard to see what would be wrong with it, he adds. "It works" does not equal "it's morally okay", or "it's justified", or anything other than simply "it achieves the desired result". --- Anything is a Trumble if you're brave enough. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/02/22 3:45:14 PM #8: |
Lebronwon posted... Professor Stephen Kershnar, who teaches libertarian philosophy of course that's what he teaches --- Playing: Prey; Dead Cells I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RenescoStCewl 02/02/22 3:50:40 PM #9: |
Good thing @VioletMassacre is in purgatory. Dude would totally support this guy. --- He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SydneySweenHero 02/02/22 3:51:42 PM #10: |
He looks like a guy who has a nuanced opinion on the age of consent --- NeonOctopus's Alt #7 >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryangrad 02/02/22 3:52:06 PM #11: |
Lebronwon posted... teaches libertarian philosophyhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/5/5/AAZ4PBAAC4Sn.jpg --- http://i.imgur.com/v3SzL0d.gif http://i.imgur.com/n8MtRqd.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 02/02/22 3:56:21 PM #12: |
Lebronwon posted... who teaches libertarian I see... --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 02/02/22 4:11:52 PM #13: |
Lebronwon posted... Second, the notion that its wrong even with a 1-year-old is not quite obvious to me, he says. There are reports in some cultures of grandmas.... This man has 100% raped a child before. You don't say shit like this unless you're acting on certain urges. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 02/02/22 5:34:37 PM #14: |
Lebronwon posted... Professor Stephen Kershnar, who teaches libertarianAnd there it is. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 02/02/22 5:45:32 PM #15: |
Trumble posted... "It works" does not equal "it's morally okay", or "it's justified", or anything other than simply "it achieves the desired result". This is on top of "I heard about this somewhere" is not the same "This happens" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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