Poll of the Day > Best trilogy.

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Lord of the Rings.

ive been hesitant to show my son lord of the rings because i know he would complain that the first one doesnt have enough action and be reluctant to watch the other ones

Bog how is this even a choice?

Matrix had one good movie, the first, and it was really good, I'd put it up against any of the original star wars movies even.....but it only had one good one.

Lord of the rings is ok, but I wouldn't say any of the movies are in the same league as the original star wars movies or the first matrix movie.

Star wars was groundbreaking, created a new genre, every one of the three movies were great (I'd say Empire is the best but shrug). I have rewatched the original star wars movies more then any other movies over the y ears (literally all three would be in my top list of times watched).

Star wars should have gotten all the votes.

The Matrix has more votes than LotR, are you fucking kidding me you stupid fucking board

how fucking dare you

im literally contemplating leaving this place after this atrocious shit

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

ive been hesitant to show my son lord of the rings because i know he would complain that the first one doesnt have enough action and be reluctant to watch the other ones

the first one has plenty of action. You just need to sit through the first hour of intro

Star Wars is way overrated
The Matrix had one great movie
LotR was fantastic from beginning to end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1dU1HZ_73M

LOTR, easily

Matrix doesn't even belong in the poll

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

ive been hesitant to show my son lord of the rings because i know he would complain that the first one doesnt have enough action and be reluctant to watch the other ones

Watch the first movie at like 1.5x speed :p

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Lord of the rings if we're talking the entire trilogy, but I'd put the Matrix above any individual LotR movie personally. The Matrix is my favorite movie, and Return of the King is pretty high up there.

Star Wars at its best is like an 8/10 to me.

Star Wars is my favorite since childhood and now.

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

ive been hesitant to show my son lord of the rings because i know he would complain that the first one doesnt have enough action and be reluctant to watch the other ones

First one has the Ring Wraiths, that alone is worth the price of admission.

Black_Crusher posted...

First one has the Ring Wraiths, that alone is worth the price of admission.

uhh, not to mention the mines of fucking Moria and the ending battle of the Amon Hen

LotR and its not even close

we will never get a trilogy like that ever again

Star Wars basically created the trilogy of films, but LotR perfected it.

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

ive been hesitant to show my son lord of the rings because i know he would complain that the first one doesnt have enough action and be reluctant to watch the other ones

I watched them out of order and still loved them

JOExHIGASHI posted...

I watched them out of order and still loved them

i know he will love the second and third one. he sat through the new matrix in theaters and enjoyed it so i think he might be ready for fellowship

Zareth posted...

Star Wars basically created the trilogy of films, but LotR perfected it.

and the hobbit destroyed it.

Star Wars is perfection - a cinematic masterpiece and some of the most influential movies of all time.
The Lord of the Rings films were extremely good, but not flawless, particularly with how the last one had, like, seven endings.
The Matrix trilogy was very good, but had issues. Definitely the weakest of the three.

darkknight109 posted...

Star Wars is perfection - a cinematic masterpiece and some of the most influential movies of all time.
The Lord of the Rings films were extremely good, but not flawless, particularly with how the last one had, like, seven endings.
The Matrix trilogy was very good, but had issues. Definitely the weakest of the three.

I dont mean to be rude here but youre really saying Return of the Jedi was a flawless masterpiece? (And influential in any way at all?)

that movie is easily the closest to the Matrix sequels than anything else mentioned here

whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but you complain about multiple endings in one movie but dont even mention Ewoks orthisfrom Jedi. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4

I voted LotR, but if we're going to be honest, LotR is almost less of a trilogy and just one long movie split into three parts. Which is kind of appropriate, because that's exactly how the books were written as well.

Star Wars is the one where each film in the trilogy was written separately, filmed separately, and ultimately added up to something greater than the sum of its parts. It's what a trilogy should be - and it's a shame that the franchise as a whole has turned into what it has, as it feels like a betrayal of everything it once was.

The Matrix is just a joke, because it has precisely one great movie. Even Back to the Future or Indiana Jones (before they ruined the last one with Kingdom of the Shitty Skull) would rank higher as classic nerd trilogies. I might even rank Pirates of the Caribbean higher if we count the first three as a trilogy (which it originally was) and ignore the rest. If nothing else, Pirates did the whole "film the second and third movie together and then release them separately" thing way better than The Matrix did (though LotR did it even better, obviously).



eating4fun posted...

Zareth posted...

Star Wars basically created the trilogy of films, but LotR perfected it.

and the hobbit destroyed it.

Nah. If we're going that route, the prequel trilogy destroyed the concept long before The Hobbit existed.



FrozenBananas posted...

I dont mean to be rude here but youre really saying Return of the Jedi was a flawless masterpiece?

Flawless? No. But few movies are. Even Lord of the Rings has its dead weight moments, even if the films do a very good job of cutting them out and reordering scenes to make them work better (Return of the King the book is a painful slog at times - the film is much better. One of the very rare times in history where a film adaptation winds up being better than the book it's based on).

But Jedi mostly suffers from being a bit uneven. It has some of the worst moments in the entire trilogy, but it also has some of the best. Skim Jabba, skip Endor, and focus on the Emperor/Vader/Luke scenes, and it's easily the best content of the three films. The other parts drag it down (which is why so many people rank Empire higher, and some even rank the first film higher), but it's still fantastic in its own right.



FrozenBananas posted...

orthisfrom Jedi.

Ehh, that's from the Special Editions, and those don't count. Because they don't exist.

We can't really judge the value of a movie based on the changes an insane old man made decades after they first came out. It's like saying "It's a Wonderful Life" is a shit movie because of how poorly Ted Turner colorized it back in the 80s.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/5/4/AAQwHjAACvei.jpg

You could have chosen the Planet of the Apes trilogy, the Captain America trilogy, the Holland Spider-Man trilogy, the Ringu trilogy, but you went with The Matrix trilogy????? o_O

There's only one good Matrix movie as every sequel was 10x worse than the previous installment.

Anyway, the only choice is Lord of the Rings. Star Wars' OT is close, but it's the little things that keep it from being the same quality of LotR.

darkknight109 posted...

Star Wars is perfection - a cinematic masterpiece and some of the most influential movies of all time.
The Lord of the Rings films were extremely good, but not flawless, particularly with how the last one had, like, seven endings.

Sorry, but you can't say Lord of the Rings was not flawless and then blatantly ignore the issues with the Star Wars movies. The acting in A New Hope is pretty damn cringy at times whereas the acting in LotR never dropped once. Not to mention all three LotR movies were consistent in style from start to finish while each Star Wars movie had a different look and feel to it.

Matrix doesn't belong.

LotR is really good, but it's not as rewatchable as the OT for me.

I can sit down and watch any 10 min of the OT and be supremely entertained, and walk away satisfied.

For LotR I it usually all needs to be watched, and I simply don't have the time or desire to do so with any frequency, even if they are great.

My vote OT.

FrozenBananas posted...

I dont mean to be rude here but youre really saying Return of the Jedi was a flawless masterpiece? (And influential in any way at all?)

that movie is easily the closest to the Matrix sequels than anything else mentioned here

whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but you complain about multiple endings in one movie but dont even mention Ewoks orthisfrom Jedi. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4

I dont count that special edition crap, this bring the worst scene from it by far. Just terrible. Wtf, George??

Sahuagin posted...

Star Wars is way overrated

This. Whenever people complain about how bad the new movies are, I'm the guy who mentions that star wars movies were never really "good" movies. I still like the original trilogy and they're entertaining enough to watch but the acting is bad and the story is goofy

BttF

FrozenBananas posted...

I dont mean to be rude here but youre really saying Return of the Jedi was a flawless masterpiece? (And influential in any way at all?)

that movie is easily the closest to the Matrix sequels than anything else mentioned here

whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but you complain about multiple endings in one movie but dont even mention Ewoks orthisfrom Jedi. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4

Lapti Nek was so much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wINM8zsdw9s

darkknight109 posted...

Star Wars is perfection - a cinematic masterpiece and some of the most influential movies of all time.
The Lord of the Rings films were extremely good, but not flawless, particularly with how the last one had, like, seven endings.

Criticizing RotK for having multiple endings, but not ANH?

LotR easily. I really don't get how people can find it slow, do people just have no attention span anymore?

FrozenBananas posted...

I dont mean to be rude here but youre really saying Return of the Jedi was a flawless masterpiece? (And influential in any way at all?)

Flawless? No, I never said that. Jedi is where a lot of Lucas's sloppiness catches up to him (the entire scene with Obi-Wan's ghost and Luke in the Dagobah swamp is easily the clumsiest writing in the entire trilogy, as Lucas desperately tries to wallpaper over a bunch of plot-holes he hadn't thought through).

Masterpiece? Yes. The Battle of Endor is fucking phenomenal and is a masterclass in how to do a compelling cinematic climax with several different scenes all interlinking (you had the battle at the shield generator on the forest moon, the fight in space, and Luke's confrontation with the Emperor and Vader all playing out simultaneously and the movie blends them seamlessly).

Influential? Absolutely. This is the first real fleet battle we get to see in Star Wars (kind of hard to believe, but it's true) and that was hugely influential on sci-fi going forward in terms of what a "space battle" was supposed to look like. This is also where we get pay-dirt on the big twist revealed at the end of Empire, with Luke and Vader reaching the zenith of their respective character arcs, and that had reaches far beyond just sci-fi in terms of storytelling habits. ANH is far and away the most influential of the three movies, but Jedi isn't a slouch in that category.

FrozenBananas posted...

whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but you complain about multiple endings in one movie but dont even mention Ewoks orthisfrom Jedi. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4

I'm assuming we're talking about the cinematic cuts of the Star Wars movies, not whatever dogshit Lucas churned out after 1990. If you want to compare the special editions of the Star Wars movies to LotR, then yeah, LotR takes it easily, but that's not the version of the movies that most people venerate and cite as legendary.

KaijunoKami posted...

The acting in A New Hope is pretty damn cringy at times whereas the acting in LotR never dropped once.

I mean, if we're going the nitpicky route the LotR would occasionally have these little moments where a 10 year old seemed to sneak into the director's chair for a spell, like when someone decided it would be great to have Legolas start shredding on an Urak-hai shield down a flight of stairs right in the middle of the otherwise-serious Battle of Helm's Deep while the imperious "fellowship" fanfare blares loud and at a ridiculous double-speed so they can fit it all in before he jumps off the shield and decapitates an orc in the process. I love that movie, but I swear my eyes almost rolled out of my skull when I saw that.

KaijunoKami posted...

Not to mention all three LotR movies were consistent in style from start to finish while each Star Wars movie had a different look and feel to it.

That's a feature, not a bug.

A PO pointed out, Star Wars "feels" like a trilogy, whereas LotR "feels" like one extended movie chopped up into three parts. I don't hold one of those as inherently superior to the other, they're just different ways of storytelling (and also display, very clearly, the differences between a B-movie series that surprised everyone to become the most successful franchise in human history versus a well-financed, well-planned three-movie-series that was always intended to be a box-office blockbuster).

adjl posted...

Criticizing RotK for having multiple endings, but not ANH?

Where are the multiple ending points in ANH? The only alternate I can think of to ending it where they did would be to cut it after Obi-Wan gives his "The Force will be with you... always" line and Vader's TIE Advanced is seen flying off into the void. If you move past that, there's really no other natural ending point other than where the film actually ends.

By contrast, take a look at RotK. Since they cut out the entire "Scouring of the Shire" subplot (and, honestly, good riddance - I have no idea why Tolkien thought that was a good note to end the books on), we know they're not going to follow the books in terms of writing the ending. So where do you end the movie? Well...

If you want to go dark (and controversial), you could end it with Frodo and Sam lying next to each other on Mount Doom, surrounded by lava, with Frodo's "I'm glad I'm here with you, Sam... at the end of all things" line. Fade to black, roll credits. But you're probably not going to take that one.

The next natural ending point is where Frodo wakes up in Rivendell and the Fellowship all come in one by one to celebrate. You have the scene of them all standing around Frodo's bed, fade to white, roll credits.

...no, nevermind, now we're in Minis Tirith, watching Aragorn's coronation. "My friends! You bow to no one," the new king says, before the entire human court bows before the humble hobbit heroes. Slow zoom on Frodo, the former hobbit-boy from the Shire, now the greatest hero in Middle Earth. Fade out, roll credi-

OK, let's go back to the Shire. All the hobbits return home, the greatest heroes in the land... except no one realizes it. They all head back to the pub, with seemingly nothing changed from when they left. They share a knowing look and a nod, kick back a drink, fade out, roll cre-

Wait, no, we're going to the Grey Havens now. The hobbits bid Frodo a tearful goodbye as he sails with Bilbo, Gandalf, and the elves off to the undying lands. We get a nice shot of the boat sailing off into the horizon, fade to white, roll-

Back to the shire! "I'm home." Door closes. FINALLY, we roll the credits.

That's six possible points where the movie could have stopped (and most of them, acted like it was going to stop), before we suddenly get another screen transition and a new scene. Like, I love RotK, but man does that ending drag...

darkknight109 posted...

Where are the multiple ending points in ANH? The only alternate I can think of to ending it where they did would be to cut it after Obi-Wan gives his "The Force will be with you... always" line and Vader's TIE Advanced is seen flying off into the void. If you move past that, there's really no other natural ending point other than where the film actually ends.

The entire assault on the Death Star feels like an addendum. It's a good addendum, but it definitely feels odd that the movie keeps going.

KaijunoKami posted...

You could have chosen the Planet of the Apes trilogy, the Captain America trilogy, the Holland Spider-Man trilogy, the Ringu trilogy, but you went with The Matrix trilogy????? o_O

There's only one good Matrix movie as every sequel was 10x worse than the previous installment.

Anyway, the only choice is Lord of the Rings. Star Wars' OT is close, but it's the little things that keep it from being the same quality of LotR.

All of those are just as bad if not worse than the Matrix Trilogy.

Some acceptable answers would be: Indiana jones, Back to the Future, Jason Borne, Mexico, Blade, Austin Powers, or Naked Gun.

TC should have listed Back to the Future or Indiana Jones or even Fistful of Dollars

adjl posted...

The entire assault on the Death Star feels like an addendum. It's a good addendum, but it definitely feels odd that the movie keeps going.

...What?

GanonsSpirit posted...

...What?

I can't remember exactly, but I think the switch to the rebels happens very abruptly. I don't know that that means it would have made sense to end the movie before that point, but it does make the rebel part seem mildly separated from the rest of the movie.

adjl posted...

Criticizing RotK for having multiple endings, but not ANH?

RotK didn't even having multiple endings, it only had one. Getting to see each character's send-off doesn't make it an ending.

11110111011 posted...

All of those are just as bad if not worse than the Matrix Trilogy.

Some acceptable answers would be: Indiana jones, Back to the Future, Jason Borne, Mexico, Blade, Austin Powers, or Naked Gun.

Umn, excuse me? The Apes trilogy is one of the greatest trilogies ever made and each movie in that run was better than the previous installment. Rise was good, Dawn was better, and then War was just an absolute masterpiece of a film. One of the best films of the last decade.

Indiana Jones has Temple of Doom, so poor choice. Bourne Supremacy sucks. Once Upon A Time in Mexico is dogshit. Goldmember is just as bad as Mexico. And Blade? Seriously? That's the only one on the list that even compares to the Matrix trilogy as each movie got progressively worse than the last one.

I have only seen the first Naked Gun and I've never watched Back to the Future though.

KaijunoKami posted...

RotK didn't even having multiple endings, it only had one. Getting to see each character's send-off doesn't make it an ending.

It absolutely has multiple endings. In the language of film, setting up a conclusion and then fading to black is basically an ending. The movie does it about a dozen times in a row. It leaves the audience assuming each fade out is going to be the one that leads to the credits, only to advance to the next one.

It's basically the cinematic equivalent of edging.

It's not necessarily as bad a thing as some people imply it is, but it's absolutely a thing.

Sahuagin posted...

I can't remember exactly, but I think the switch to the rebels happens very abruptly. I don't know that that means it would have made sense to end the movie before that point, but it does make the rebel part seem mildly separated from the rest of the movie.

Pretty much. I'll concede that it's more like the division between episodes of a TV series than the division between entire movies, so I also wouldn't say the movie should actually end before that point, but it still definitely feels more like a follow-up than a smooth continuation.

adjl posted...

The entire assault on the Death Star feels like an addendum. It's a good addendum, but it definitely feels odd that the movie keeps going.

I strongly disagree. I mean... it would feel very strange if the movie ended without resolving the principle conflict, that being the presence of a planet-destroying superweapon. The entire reason why Luke was pulled into his journey was to save the princess and help her complete her mission of bringing the Death Star plans to the rebels so that they could find a way to destroy or disable it. He completes the former, but if you end it after they flee the Death Star the latter is left entirely unresolved.

Like... where in the movie would you even put the credits? There's no natural ending point after the Death Star escape. The gang fights off a whopping four TIE Fighters and has a quick cheer, but there's no denouement - from there we immediately cut to the Death Star and learn that the ship is being tracked, then Han, Luke, and Leia discuss their next moves, they land on Yavin and from there we transition immediately into the planning for the Death Star assault.

In RotK, if you stop at any of the points I mentioned and stick the credits there, the movie would still "feel" complete; I can't say the same for ANH.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Fistful of Dollars

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/6/AAQwHjAACvou.jpg

Neither of the others deserve to lace LOTRs boots.

Always found Star Wars overrated, Empire is great but the other 2 are just decent/good, LoTR is excellent from start to finish, as is the first matrix film.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It absolutely has multiple endings. In the language of film, setting up a conclusion and then fading to black is basically an ending. The movie does it about a dozen times in a row. It leaves the audience assuming each fade out is going to be the one that leads to the credits, only to advance to the next one.

It's basically the cinematic equivalent of edging.

It's not necessarily as bad a thing as some people imply it is, but it's absolutely a thing.

No, the only ending is the one that happened before the credits rolled.

KaijunoKami posted...

I have only seen the first Naked Gun and I've never watched Back to the Future though.

If this is indeed true, I can't recommend seeing this ASAP highly enough.
Practically the perfect movie.

Black_Crusher posted...

If this is indeed true, I can't recommend seeing this ASAP highly enough.
Practically the perfect movie.

I've just never been interested in that series. However, since it's now on 4K, I might bite sooner rather than later.