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Lebronwon
12/24/21 3:10:49 PM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aoc-goes-war-former-nypd-152647223.html

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1474129460177903622

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1474134887984680965



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Wolfesth6090
12/24/21 3:31:38 PM
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Don't agree with everything she says but she's got a point here. That was a poorly worded tweet from the police commissioner.

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/21 3:34:09 PM
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wait, y'all got robo dogs over there?
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DowntownMrSmith
12/24/21 3:34:11 PM
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Robo dogs?
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MICHALECOLE
12/24/21 3:35:15 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
wait, y'all got robo dogs over there?

DowntownMrSmith posted...
Robo dogs?
Dont worry guys, I brought my dinosaur who eats force field dogs
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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/21 3:35:51 PM
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that's true. nothing can fuck with the mechassaurus...
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GALA462
12/24/21 3:38:30 PM
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I do agree that she's right as well about it shouldn't be the police's job.

With how bloated the NYC's government budget is and how high taxes are, this technically shouldn't be a problem.

Too much corruption

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s0nicfan
12/24/21 3:39:50 PM
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Has she proposed any sort of concrete legislation that addresses this issue with any evidence-based efficacy? Since that's literally her job?

jk. I know she's not doing anything more than tweeting about it.


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Wolfesth6090
12/24/21 3:39:58 PM
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That's Spot he cost $94,000.
They used him in an actual hostage situation.
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ZevLoveDOOM
12/24/21 3:41:01 PM
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looking like something out of the Metal Gear series...
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CobraGT
12/24/21 3:49:09 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Has she proposed any sort of concrete legislation that addresses this issue with any evidence-based efficacy? Since that's literally her job?

jk. I know she's not doing anything more than tweeting about it.

AOC is on record for supporting government assisted housing. She does more than just tweet.


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ChocoboMogALT
12/24/21 3:56:06 PM
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How many empty buildings litter NY because the price to rent just makes no sense? Not talking about just apartments, but stores, etc.

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Antifar
12/24/21 3:56:54 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Has she proposed any sort of concrete legislation that addresses this issue with any evidence-based efficacy?
Yes.

https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2019/9/27/aoc-amp-the-progressive-consensus-on-housing
On Wednesday, Congresswoman and progressive vanguard Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez released her A Place to Prosper Act, a bold plan to restructure the U.S. housing system. As part of her A Just Society package, AOC lays out a vision that would take our country closer to manifesting housing as a human right. Her proposal also encapsulates the emergent progressive consensus on housing: protect tenants, regulate landlords, abolish exclusionary zoning, and build more homes outside the private market. AOC's bill is the product of collaboration with the Center for Popular Democracy and their housing justice network, and closely follows their A Home to Thrive plan.

AOCs plan (which well shorthand to A Place to Prosper) builds off three cornerstones:

A nationwide cap on rent increases and ban on no-cause evictions (small landlords who rent 5 or fewer homes are exempted), along with new funding for legal counsel for evicted tenants.

Strict regulations on landlords, banning them from refusing to rent to tenants because they receive public assistance (one way that landlords currently often legally discriminate) and requiring transparency for large landlords who rent 100 or more homes on rent prices, evictions, fees charged, lease agreements, ownership, and instances of violations they have committed

Withholding federal highway funds from localities using exclusionary zoning to prevent housing affordability and integration, while offering additional funds to localities that encourage the development of affordable housing.

AOCs plan also includes other important elements, such as funding for lead abatement, but the three cornerstones above get to the heart of the new progressive consensus on how to solve the housing crisis and we should look at each more closely to see how.
https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-sanders-are-reintroducing-their-green-new-deal-for-public-housing-bill/
It would also remove limitations on building more public housing as set by the Faircloth Amendment, which sets strict limits on how much affordable housing can be built.

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Ryven
12/24/21 3:58:14 PM
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Can we just vote her into the presidency already?

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Ilishe
12/24/21 3:59:21 PM
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B-black mirror is happening

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CharlesBronson
12/24/21 4:01:00 PM
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CobraGT posted...
AOC is on record for supporting government assisted housing. She does more than just tweet.
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.
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Intro2Logic
12/24/21 4:06:09 PM
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Congressional proposals are just a fancier form of tweeting anyways. Unless you're proposing the Tax Abatements for Raytheon and Maybe Some Housing Too Act, it's not gonna go anywhere.

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MICHALECOLE
12/24/21 4:06:23 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.
translation: I care more about money than human life
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gunplagirl
12/24/21 4:07:25 PM
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That's the old model. The new one has fucking guns. You know, like they said from the beginning they'd never do but plenty of us knew it would turn out this way.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/24/21 4:09:15 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.
Appropriate the property of conservative politicians to pay for more taxpayer handouts, you're welcome.

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Blightzkrieg
12/24/21 4:10:35 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.
Now let's pay the cops ten billion dollars to beat up poor people

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s0nicfan
12/24/21 4:12:11 PM
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Antifar posted...
Yes.

https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2019/9/27/aoc-amp-the-progressive-consensus-on-housing
https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-sanders-are-reintroducing-their-green-new-deal-for-public-housing-bill/

  1. That's from 2019
  2. That does nothing to address homelessness
  3. Rent caps (and public housing) have never fixed this problem. When I said evidence-based, I didn't think I needed to specify plans that don't have evidence that they don't work.

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Wolfesth6090
12/24/21 4:13:45 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.

  • Eight of the 10 states most dependent on the federal government were Republican-voting, with the average red state receiving $1.35 per dollar spent.
  • Nine states sent more to the federal government than they received seven of these were Democrat-voting and had higher per capita GDPs than many of the red states that received the most.
  • New Mexico had the highest return on federal spending of any state ($4.33), and Delaware had the lowest ($0.63).
  • The eight states receiving the highest child tax credit per capita were all Republican-voting


^Get your own damned states in order before complaining about taxpayers money being wasted on handouts.
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Intro2Logic
12/24/21 4:16:27 PM
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I hate to break it to you but he does not care.

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CobraGT
12/24/21 4:17:03 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.

Lie. It is only a taxpayer handout when you disapprove.

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Nukazie
12/24/21 4:19:12 PM
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damn wars only on happening on twitter

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Holy_Cloud105
12/24/21 5:27:17 PM
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Wolfesth6090 posted...
* Eight of the 10 states most dependent on the federal government were Republican-voting, with the average red state receiving $1.35 per dollar spent.
* Nine states sent more to the federal government than they received seven of these were Democrat-voting and had higher per capita GDPs than many of the red states that received the most.
* New Mexico had the highest return on federal spending of any state ($4.33), and Delaware had the lowest ($0.63).
* The eight states receiving the highest child tax credit per capita were all Republican-voting

^Get your own damned states in order before complaining about taxpayers money being wasted on handouts.
Republicans don't care the blue states bankroll their shitty states so they can continue to suck more money without providing anything valuable in return.

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What_
12/24/21 5:39:16 PM
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Shes not wrong
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NatsuSama
12/24/21 7:26:07 PM
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CobraGT posted...
AOC is on record for supporting government assisted housing. She does more than just tweet.
Doesn't address what he said.

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andel
12/24/21 7:30:55 PM
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damn the right wingers in this topic got obliterated

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ThanksUglyGod
12/24/21 7:50:50 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
1. That's from 2019
2. That does nothing to address homelessness
3. Rent caps (and public housing) have never fixed this problem. When I said evidence-based, I didn't think I needed to specify plans that don't have evidence that they don't work.
  1. Who cares???
  2. Making housing more available and affordable while giving evicted tenants cheaper legal counsel absolutely would do something to address homelessness, wtf are you talking about?
  3. See #2. You're welcome to provide evidence that those policies wouldn't address homelessness.
If you're gonna move those goalposts, at least be a little more clever than "nuh-uh".
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TerraSeeker
12/24/21 7:54:17 PM
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I'm going to say the obvious. We don't need the police to have robot dogs, but government housing services are known to be ineffective as well. If you wanted to help with homelessness, you would give to a charity that is actually effective.

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Shablagoo
12/24/21 7:56:38 PM
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Shes right, of course, like she usually is.

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s0nicfan
12/24/21 10:00:50 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
1. Who cares???
2. Making housing more available and affordable while giving evicted tenants cheaper legal counsel absolutely would do something to address homelessness, wtf are you talking about?
3. See #2. You're welcome to provide evidence that those policies wouldn't address homelessness.
If you're gonna move those goalposts, at least be a little more clever than "nuh-uh".

https://www.nmhc.org/news/articles/the-high-cost-of-rent-control/
That rent control is an ineffective and often counterproductive housing policy is no longer open to serious question. The profound economic and social consequences of government intervention in the nation's housing markets have been documented in study after study, over the past twenty-five years. In response to this hard-earned experience, states and local jurisdictions from Massachusetts to California have banned or greatly constrained rent control. Nevertheless, a number of communities around the country continue to impose rent controls, usually with the stated goal of preserving affordable housing for low- and middle-income families. Rent control does not advance this important goal. To the contrary, in many communities rent control has actually reduced both the quality and quantity of available housing.

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K181
12/24/21 10:03:46 PM
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Mild, but pointed, criticism of someone elses hot take is going to war now?

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EyeWontBeFooled
12/24/21 10:06:38 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
No more taxpayer handouts, thank you.
What else would you suggest?

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EyeWontBeFooled
12/24/21 10:08:35 PM
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Ilishe posted...
B-black mirror is happening
It really, really is.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/9/AACjiOAACvNR.jpg

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nfearurspecimn
12/24/21 10:09:39 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
That's the old model. The new one has fucking guns. You know, like they said from the beginning they'd never do but plenty of us knew it would turn out this way.
what the fuck, that's legitimately terrifying
is this what getting old felt like to all the old timers afraid of technology?

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EyeWontBeFooled
12/24/21 10:11:59 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
what the fuck, that's legitimately terrifying
is this what getting old felt like to all the old timers afraid of technology?
There is a difference in being a Luddite and having genuine, realistic concerns about a technology. See above picture and just think about how friendly our future robo dogs with guns will be!

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nfearurspecimn
12/24/21 10:15:45 PM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
There is a difference in being a Luddite and having genuine, realistic concerns about a technology. See above picture and just think about how friendly our future robo dogs with guns will be!
I mean, if the tech advances significantly to the point at which errors are extremely rare, it could be less of a concern than a cop or flying in an aircraft. There's always fear of anticipation of things going wrong over technology and always has been. The fear may be legitimate as in there may be several accidents, but maybe it will be seen as safer when the kinks are ironed out.

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nfearurspecimn
12/24/21 10:18:49 PM
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So that's why they made all their cute videos of them dancing: to make people feel comfortable lol.

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What_
12/24/21 10:19:38 PM
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DARPA funds all the advanced robotics technology and research of course its going to go military
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runewalshPSiv
12/24/21 10:21:04 PM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
What else would you suggest?

Let the states taxpayers pay for it.

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