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ZannoL
12/23/21 10:21:05 PM
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Do you think she is right?


https://www.comicsands.com/twitch-streamer-fanfan-shame-obese-2656084663.html

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A Twitch streamer, Fiona Fan, is apologizing after receiving backlash for asking why we don't publicly "shame" obese people.

Fan, known as Fanfan on Twitch, was streaming on December 15 to her 50.4 thousand subscribers. Normally, she discusses her life and current events under the "Just Chatting" category.

On this stream, she suggested sectioning off those who are obese the way we designate a space for smokers.

You can't smoke on planes."

"And when you go to a restaurant or a hotel, they have a little roped off area for a 'smoking area.'"

"Like the 'dedicated smoking area' in airports, right? Like, it's roped off."

"Why don't they fucking have that for obese people?"

"I know they don't have that for heroine users, but why do we not shame people who are morbidly obese?"

"It's bad for them."

As comments began calling her out in real time, she later tried to clarify what she was saying.

It didn't make things any better.

"The whole thing that I was saying was that we should not be glorifying people who are morbidly obese, which makes sense, doesn't it?"

"We should not be seeing someone who has health problems because they ate themselves until obesity and call them brave."

"I stand by it."

On a stream the following day, she continued to defend her statements.

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Lost_All_Senses
12/23/21 10:23:17 PM
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She got shamed for promoting shaming. Lol. Sometimes the short stories are the best stories.

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Unsugarized_Foo
12/23/21 10:24:17 PM
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Her audience is probably fat

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SweetieBeIle462
12/23/21 10:25:37 PM
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Basically questions asked in the movie SuperSize Me.

Sucks she's getting harassed

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cjsdowg
12/23/21 10:30:23 PM
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No one who says something like that really care about health of big people .

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Solar_Crimson
12/23/21 10:30:45 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Her audience is probably fat
This. Fat, nerdy neckbeards.

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Lost_All_Senses
12/23/21 10:31:03 PM
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The problem with statements like this

ZannoL posted...
"We should not be seeing someone who has health problems because they ate themselves until obesity and call them brave."

Is that she's being an idiot. She's using stuff only said by very few people to argue to people who are most likely not those people. So, of course the response is gonna be people wondering why she's attacking them for something they personally never claimed. But, she looks young. Hopefully she builds some more character as she ages and understands where and where not to take these stands. Seeing that was her response to backlash, it's not happening soon.

And shaming people is literally never the wave. Unless they're like Nazis or some shit. Weight isn't as simple as choosing a side.

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Umbreon
12/23/21 10:31:06 PM
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Being a shitty person isn't suddenly excused because your target could stand to lose a few pounds.

99% of the people who want shit like this isn't doing it because they're concerned for the health of others, they just want permission to bully someone else.

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cjsdowg
12/23/21 10:31:07 PM
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SweetieBeIle462 posted...
Basically questions asked in the movie SuperSize Me.

Sucks she's getting harassed

SuperSize me was a con job.
And no she said we should rope fat people off, from the rest of the people. How is that okay ?

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JKwaffle
12/23/21 10:31:41 PM
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Some people get too offended by comments about fat people.

This isn't one of those cases. Jesus christ, literally saying to seperate fat people from the rest of society? What the actual fuck?

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Rayman2943
12/23/21 10:32:24 PM
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JKwaffle posted...
Some people get too offended by comments about fat people.

This isn't one of those cases. Jesus christ, literally saying to seperate fat people from the rest of society? What the actual fuck?
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inTaCtfuL
12/23/21 10:42:42 PM
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This is why fat people get "too sensitive", you have more than half the people here agreeing that they should be separated from society and shamed >_>

And idk why she compared them to cigarettes smokers, I never knew we shamed smokers or that being around fat people can ruin our health lol

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Garioshi
12/23/21 10:44:56 PM
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how do you have designated fat areas

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Unsugarized_Foo
12/23/21 10:47:16 PM
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Garioshi posted...
how do you have designated fat areas

You ask them if they want fries with that

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NatsuSama
12/23/21 10:59:32 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
She's using stuff only said by very few people to argue to people who are most likely not those people.
Mmm, I'd definitely argue there are more than a few who embrace near or borderline obesity.

The US is among the top 15 most obese countries and our culture does embrace it directly and indirectly.

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Lost_All_Senses
12/23/21 11:12:51 PM
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NatsuSama posted...
Mmm, I'd definitely argue there are more than a few who embrace near or borderline obesity.

The US is among the top 15 most obese countries and our culture does embrace it directly and indirectly.

And they all call it brave? Cause I mostly see people struggling to fight off temptation of America shoving convenience in their face over health. Foods an addiction. And I might not know being heavy. But, I know addiction. Most them don't see being big as brave. The one's who promote that would obviously be louder tho. Literally leading people down an unhealthy path to profit off them and then shaming them for falling into the trap set up.

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Chortlez
12/23/21 11:13:22 PM
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The general issue with fatshaming is that it's one of the few social pressures that just doesn't work and ends up having the opposite intended affect. Fatshaming a dude could likely lead to him getting depressed and doubling down on his eating habits.

It's a shame the government doesn't actually care about the obesity problem because the least they could do is ban high fructose corn syrup or something.
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Tyranthraxus
12/23/21 11:15:32 PM
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Chortlez posted...
The general issue with fatshaming is that it's one of the few social pressures that just doesn't work and ends up having the opposite intended affect. Fatshaming a dude could likely lead to him getting depressed and doubling down on his eating habits.

It's a shame the government doesn't actually care about the obesity problem because the least they could do is ban high fructose corn syrup or something.
There is no significant caloric difference between HFCS and cane sugar.

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Chortlez
12/23/21 11:26:03 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
There is no significant caloric difference between HFCS and cane sugar.


It's addictive and in damn near everything due to being considerably cheaper to produce.
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Tyranthraxus
12/23/21 11:30:02 PM
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Chortlez posted...
It's addictive and in damn near everything due to being considerably cheaper to produce.

Banning it would probably make companies use much less sweeteners for cost reasons I guess but the addictive properties are essentially also the same as sugar.

Of course it would also destroy the corn industry. It would be better to just regulate the amount of added sugars any given product could have.

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omega cookie
12/23/21 11:32:54 PM
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Garioshi posted...
how do you have designated fat areas
Set up an area to charge their scooters, along with complimentary long grabber things.

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Chortlez
12/23/21 11:40:51 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Of course it would also destroy the corn industry. It would be better to just regulate the amount of added sugars any given product could have.


Dude, something has to give. We have an obesity crisis on top of a gazillion other epidemics affecting the US.
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smoke_break
12/23/21 11:45:06 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
This is why fat people get "too sensitive", you have more than half the people here agreeing that they should be separated from society and shamed >_>
Yeah, her comments are disturbing. You have to be a pretty hateful and nasty person to think about things like this. She even felt it was okay to say it publicly.

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Tyranthraxus
12/23/21 11:50:49 PM
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Chortlez posted...
Dude, something has to give. We have an obesity crisis on top of a gazillion other epidemics affecting the US.

I promise you banning HFCS isn't going to solve obesity.

Obesity in America is caused by multiple things all going on at the same time. They are:
  1. Lack of physical activity. Most Americans drive everywhere and walk only the minimum amount necessary and then many go on to become couch potatoes in their spare time
  2. Long working hours & long commute times leave many with little time to cook. So many turn to fast food or prepackaged unhealthy shit they can microwave.
  3. Poor mental health causes people to eat as a coping mechanism.
  4. Americans just straight up eat too much fucking meat. Especially beef. Especially fatty beef like Ribeyes. Also stuff like pork sausage. We need to chill with the meat and eat more veggies.

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Chortlez
12/24/21 12:00:40 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Long working hours & long commute times leave many with little time to cook. So many turn to fast food or prepackaged unhealthy s*** they can microwave.


I'd imagine targeting the HFCS content here would lead to some impact.
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Tyranthraxus
12/24/21 12:05:22 AM
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Chortlez posted...
I'd imagine targeting the HFCS content here would lead to some impact.
Not nearly enough. A large fries is going to have no HFCS. People will get Chinese food and eat a giant tub of white rice without really thinking about it. They'll get a pizza and load up on empty carbs and fat all at once. All great tasting stuff easy to feed a family for less than $20 a day without having to spend time cooking and can be picked up mid-commute without even having to get out of the car in most cases.

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DocDelicious
12/24/21 12:48:15 AM
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That sounds like a fucking fantastic idea.
I fully support having an obese section in restaurants so I don't have to see you shovel food into your disgusting cake hole.

Obese seating in public places would also be incredible. Not having to sit next to the stinking pile of meat overflowing from their chair sounds so nice.

It'd be hard to implement on planes and busses, etc. because of weight distribution issues but we could just give them their own airline or something. Just rip out all the seats and pile them on the floor.

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DeadBankerDream
12/24/21 12:53:20 AM
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The most fascinating element of this is that she's so stupid she thinks smoking sections exist to shame smokers into not smoking.

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YugiNoob
12/24/21 12:56:27 AM
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She's hot :3

But she also has a stupid take on that. Unless she thinks that designated smoking areas are for shaming smokers, or that obesity poses a health risk for people nearby :<

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NatsuSama
12/24/21 8:02:30 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
And they all call it brave? Cause I mostly see people struggling to fight off temptation of America shoving convenience in their face over health. Foods an addiction. And I might not know being heavy. But, I know addiction. Most them don't see being big as brave. The one's who promote that would obviously be louder tho. Literally leading people down an unhealthy path to profit off them and then shaming them for falling into the trap set up.
Are there more than a few who embrace near or borderline obesity? What I specifically said, yes. Our culture here in the states most definitely embraces such a weight.

We are among the top 15 most obese countries for a reason. It's not just food addiction, it's our culture as well. Our culture finds every excuse in the world to point fingers somewhere, and our culture is definitely of the "super size me" variety.

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Flaming_Fire619
12/24/21 8:08:32 AM
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I remember reading about this. I like how she doesn't understand that we rope off people from smoking due to the inherent risk smoking has on other people that they don't have a say in due to second hand smoke. The moment I see second hand fatness I'm running for the hills.

And yeah; all research shows that shaming those that are obese is the worst case scenario. As a fat dude that's on the path to recovery my eating habits were a lot based around depression and general feelings of bleh. I'm not saying that's the case for everyone but a good portion of obesity can probably be linked to self esteem and stress issues that causes a downward spiral

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Lost_All_Senses
12/24/21 9:14:14 AM
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NatsuSama posted...
Are there more than a few who embrace near or borderline obesity? What I specifically said, yes. Our culture here in the states most definitely embraces such a weight.

We are among the top 15 most obese countries for a reason. It's not just food addiction, it's our culture as well. Our culture finds every excuse in the world to point fingers somewhere, and our culture is definitely of the "super size me" variety.

At this point, we're basically just arguing that both sides exists. Which, I don't disagree with. But like I said in the beginning. She's arguing against one group to a different group that would obviously feel a way about them being assumed upon. And I assume all the time, so I definitely have a good idea of how people feel about that. I don't even think I'm smarter than this chick. I've caught myself doing the same dumb shit she's doing. I don't double down tho. So, eh, maybe a tiny bit smarter here. I usually know when to shut the fuck up. The trick of not dying on your own sword is to never have your sword with you. Especially if it's gonna fuck with your hustle.

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Bandit_Keith
12/24/21 9:27:37 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I've caught myself doing the same dumb shit she's doing. I don't double down tho.
Exactly. You be like "Oh, yeah I see where you're coming from." Or "I see how you could take my comments that way" or something. And you clarify by actually clarifying! She's just like "Fuck you, I stand by my views!" Well, I guess that is clarifying in its own way. lol

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Lost_All_Senses
12/24/21 9:37:13 AM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
Exactly. You be like "Oh, yeah I see where you're coming from." Or "I see how you could take my comments that way" or something. And you clarify by actually clarifying! She's just like "Fuck you, I stand by my views!" Well, I guess that is clarifying in its own way. lol

Yeah. It changes from being able to be like "Ah, they didn't think it through and were just talking unfiltered" to "Oh damn, they're actually willing to die on this hill. They really believe this strongly".

Being corrected is a very respectable way to learn if you actually accept the lesson imo. Personally,my main way of learning throughout life. But, I mean you also gotta stick to your guns when someone else is trippin. She definitely got those wires crossed. Just shows a lack of overall compassion. Not saying she isn't compassionate with anyone. But there's an overall compassion missing.

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LinkDaLunatic
12/24/21 9:40:54 AM
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lmfao she called out her own audience
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LeoRavus
12/24/21 9:41:54 AM
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Did she not think any of her 50k viewers were fat?

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ZannoL
12/24/21 1:56:51 PM
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LinkDaLunatic posted...
lmfao she called out her own audience

LeoRavus posted...
Did she not think any of her 50k viewers were fat?

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Wolfesth6090
12/24/21 2:20:36 PM
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Double down time.

The whole thing that I was saying was that we should not be glorifying people who are morbidly obese, which makes sense, doesnt it? We should not be seeing someone who has health problems because they ate themselves until obese and call them brave. I stand by it.

So she's shifted it from "obese" to "morbidly obese". It's only really really fat people not average fat people who deserve to be shamed.
She is an idiot if she thinks that comment helped her cause.
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Ving_Rhames
12/24/21 2:23:00 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Her audience is definitely fat

Which is why she got called out pretty much immediately lol

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Wolfesth6090
12/24/21 2:26:25 PM
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Oh and this girl is a fucking weirdo.
That's some Jordan Peterson shit.

https://twitter.com/issfanfan/status/1469739003284901890?t=b-K6hM0RP7DH2ckmFBHlyA&s=19
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_Angel_
12/24/21 2:49:49 PM
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LinkDaLunatic posted...
lmfao she called out her own audience

Seriously

Say that shit like the gamer crowd isn't decently likely to be overweight loooool

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Vyrulisse
12/24/21 5:12:09 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGnYxiF0GXk

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ZannoL
12/24/21 8:36:29 PM
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Bump.
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DespondentDeity
12/24/21 8:40:25 PM
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Put the fat people in space like Wall-E

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Smackems
12/24/21 8:43:24 PM
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Lmao

Us poor Fats have so much to deal with, pound for pound

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Derwood
12/24/21 8:44:21 PM
#48:


How many thousands of dollars does she get from her obese simps every month?
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MasterChief5000
12/24/21 8:45:04 PM
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Her opinion is trash.
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