Poll of the Day > Finally watched Spider-Man:Far From Home *Spoilers*

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In preparation of the new one (currently doing very well on RT)..

What the heck was that?
It made even less sense when you found out Nick wasnt Nick at the end and he's just chilling in outer space while **** went down back on Earth..
What was the point of recruiting Peter to do all that bull when literally anyone else in the MCU would've been a better choice?
What a mess of a film :O

Mysterio is my favorite Spider-Man villain and I was overjoyed to see him done right on the big screen.

Ultimately that's all that mattered to me. I hated almost all of the school trip and MJ crap, and basically any moment Mysterio wasn't on screen.
But that was enough to make it my favorite Spider-Man movie.

And yeah, that post-credits scene pissed me off. Retroactively makes Mysterio look like a total chump, getting fooled by Nick Fury like that. Fury should be a supporting character, he shouldn't be outdoing the superheroes/villains... If there's ONE guy who should've been able to outsmart Fury, it should've been Mysterio. But...nope!

I like to pretend that post-credits scene didn't happen, so it doesn't ruin the film for me. *shrug*

Yeah, tied with SM2 as second best Spider-Man movie

streamofthesky posted...

Mysterio is my favorite Spider-Man villain and I was overjoyed to see him done right on the big screen

Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised they kept the retro outfit, looked good too

The thing I dislike most about it is the plot hole it creates for Endgame.

Why would Tony not deploy the murder drones for the final battle with Thanos?

GanonsSpirit posted...

The thing I dislike most about it is the plot hole it creates for Endgame.

Why would Tony not deploy the murder drones for the final battle with Thanos?

thanos was disrupting any long range form of communication

I loved everything about that movie

9 thumbs up

streamofthesky posted...

And yeah, that post-credits scene pissed me off. Retroactively makes Mysterio look like a total chump, getting fooled by Nick Fury like that.

Ehh, I don't think it makes him look like a chump. The whole point of the Skrulls is that they're really good at disguise. And it's not like Mysterio knew Nick Fury personally.

Now, if it was established that Quentin knew Nick for like 20 years beforehand and didn't notice the change, then yeah, I'd agree that makes him look kind of dumb. But if you've never met someone and only really know them by reputation at best, you'll probably be fooled.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Ehh, I don't think it makes him look like a chump. The whole point of the Skrulls is that they're really good at disguise. And it's not like Mysterio knew Nick Fury personally.

Now, if it was established that Quentin knew Nick for like 20 years beforehand and didn't notice the change, then yeah, I'd agree that makes him look kind of dumb. But if you've never met someone and only really know them by reputation at best, you'll probably be fooled.

It's not that Mysterio should have known about the Skrulls or whatever. I just wish that entire thing had been left out.

It means that:

• Nick Fury was never actually in any danger at all
• Mysterio wasn't cleverly manipulating Fury for his own ends the entire movie after all
• A lot of Mysterio's plan had no chance of ever working in the long run b/c it wasn't really Fury in the first place
• Prior to the scene, Spider-Man was the hero who stopped Mysterio's nefarious plot. After that scene, it means Spidey's involvement was basically just being duped into giving Mysterio the murder drones and then undoing that mistake by getting them back.

Just really retroactively takes the wind out of the sails of the entire movie. All to set up some larger universe crap I don't care about.

Wait people disliked the movie? Also the "why spiderman?" was literally covered in the movie.

The movie was great.

streamofthesky posted...

* Nick Fury was never actually in any danger at all
* Mysterio wasn't cleverly manipulating Fury for his own ends the entire movie after all
* A lot of Mysterio's plan had no chance of ever working in the long run b/c it wasn't really Fury in the first place

Ehh, I think that's a more negative interpretation than is strictly warranted.

Fury has clearly given Talos a fair bit of clearance to make things happen in his absence, to help keep up the charade. So if Mysterio manages to trick Skrull Fury into doing what he wants, he succeeds at his plan just as much as he would have if it was the real Fury. Even in the end, when he's going to kill Fury (which won't work because he'd be killing the Skrull, not the real one), it would still work for his plan - he doesn't actually need Fury dead as much as it will add to his overall narrative... and a dead doppelganger works for that just as well as the real one does. So even if the real Fury shows up later and is like "Nah, that wasn't me, it was a body double", Mysterio still "wins".

Plus, you know, Peter and most of his friends would be dead, so it's not as if there's no stakes if Peter fails to stop Mysterio. They're just not entirely the stakes you thought they were. But things not being what they seem is pretty much the entire point of the movie anyway.



streamofthesky posted...

* Prior to the scene, Spider-Man was the hero who stopped Mysterio's nefarious plot. After that scene, it means Spidey's involvement was basically just being duped into giving Mysterio the murder drones and then undoing that mistake by getting them back.

That's literally Spidey's involvement regardless of whether or not Fury is real. Peter IS straight up duped into giving Mysterio the murder drones, and the only heroic thing he actually accomplishes all movie is literally cleaning up his own mistake.

If Peter had stayed home and just smashed the glasses in the first 5 minutes of the movie, he would arguably have accomplished more of heroic value than anything he accomplishes in the movie as-is. Mysterio isn't really all that much of a threat until Peter makes him one And that's regardless of whether or not Fury is real, fake, a ghost, or not involved at all.

I dont remember the movie super well was it confirmed that Fury was part of the skrulls taking his and some other shield peoples place? Cause it looked like he was chilling up there but maybe he isnt there of his own free will? Idk

I think the implication is that Fury is working on SWORD