Current Events > Gacha Game General Topic 24: ''A wasteland emptier than my gem stash''

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PikachuMaxwell
12/29/21 2:01:29 PM
#252:


Goddess of Genesis S:

Got my most desired unit in this game after unintentionally starting over: Gabriel.

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YugiNoob
12/29/21 2:57:28 PM
#253:


PikachuMaxwell posted...
Goddess of Genesis S:

Got my most desired unit in this game after unintentionally starting over: Gabriel.
I liked Lucifer when I played. Super strong single target attack with a high crit rate to one shot people and a passive thats identical to Galeforce from Fire Emblem? Lolz

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YotsuMaboroshi
12/29/21 3:42:29 PM
#254:


YugiNoob posted...
Oh yeah, in PriConne land, I have Tamaki at 4 stars, rank 8, and 88/150 shards. Should I save the shards to try to get her to 5 stars or get her UE first?
UE probably, assuming you have the hearts. 5 star is more stats, UE gives her a stun on her first, which is more immediately useful in PVP than the stats.

Priconne NA news update: https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/anime-news/2021/12/29/princess-connect-re-dive-prepares-some-end-of-year-festivities

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YugiNoob
12/29/21 3:51:15 PM
#255:


Tis done. Kitty now has a level 90 Phantom Taiyaki before I ran out of hearts lol

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Calwings
12/29/21 5:04:16 PM
#256:


YotsuMaboroshi posted...
triple normal drops

Fucking finally

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YugiNoob
12/29/21 6:27:25 PM
#257:


Oh dang I really like the new UR Iron Blood ships design. Should fleets have at least one carrier for balance or some shit? Or would just FdG, New Jersey, and Ulrich work out lol

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Shadow20201
12/29/21 6:49:31 PM
#258:


YugiNoob posted...
Oh dang I really like the new UR Iron Blood ships design. Should fleets have at least one carrier for balance or some shit? Or would just FdG, New Jersey, and Ulrich work out lol
You only 'need' carriers on maps with high AA requirements, or heavy plane spam such as world 13. And there are ways around it anyways.

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YugiNoob
12/29/21 7:17:56 PM
#259:


Oh my god that made me realize Ive been on world 10 for ages lol. Ive just been doing events D:

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legendarylemur
12/29/21 10:24:08 PM
#260:


For GT? W10 and on are all pretty much perfect

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YugiNoob
12/29/21 11:21:00 PM
#261:


No in Azur Lane. Also world 10 in GT was depressing :<

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The Catgirl Fondler
12/30/21 2:51:45 AM
#262:


YugiNoob posted...
Oh my god that made me realize Ive been on world 10 for ages lol. Ive just been doing events D:


Don't feel too bad, I only recently cleared world 4 and could finally make a 3rd fleet. I don't really blame events so much as my obsession with completeness, namely the part where I'm trying to fill-in all of the "unknown" ship drops.

Speaking of a lack of completion, I only realized today that not all girls have a Recollection Lobby scene in Blue Archive, specifically it seems most (if not all) the *1 gals are lacking one.

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Tennousu
12/30/21 5:52:06 AM
#263:


A select few of 1* girls have reco lobby.

Yoshimi has one, but that's the only one I could remember.
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YugiNoob
12/30/21 6:24:50 AM
#264:


What's going on in META? I was getting at least 400K before but now I'm doing around 150K. Wait now my most recent attempt was 498K. How the fuck is there such a discrepancy :<

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Shadow20201
12/30/21 9:57:37 AM
#265:


YugiNoob posted...
What's going on in META? I was getting at least 400K before but now I'm doing around 150K. Wait now my most recent attempt was 498K. How the fuck is there such a discrepancy :<
My guess is that Gneisenau is taking out your flagship or Frontline before the time was up. That's happened to me a few times.

Got Ulrich in 30 draws, along with 2 other event ships.

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YugiNoob
12/30/21 1:11:21 PM
#266:


In PriConne does the difficulty of a stage matter for farming or should I just go for the ones that use the least stamina?

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Funkydog
12/30/21 1:13:43 PM
#267:


It sort of depends. If you look what items a stage drops, the first two items have the highest rate, then the rest lower. So you usually want to go for whatever stage has the items you want in the first two drops.

I think it's like 33% for the first two, and then 20% for the others or something.

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YugiNoob
12/30/21 1:23:37 PM
#268:


Ah, interesting.

Also, I like what they decided to name the shard part of the shop in Blue Archive lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/5/AAPV5JAACwUn.jpg

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legendarylemur
12/30/21 5:31:59 PM
#269:


Oh god, it's named so similarly to that deadly disease

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Eab1990
12/30/21 10:11:58 PM
#270:


https://twitter.com/priconne_redive/status/1476751050170572807

PriFes time.

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Eab1990
12/31/21 12:56:03 AM
#271:


Eab1990 posted...
https://twitter.com/priconne_redive/status/1476751050170572807

PriFes time.

170 rolls and not a single new rainbow.

I know my PriFes luck is usually terrible, but this is a whole new level of shit.

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YugiNoob
12/31/21 5:36:24 AM
#272:


Yeah, I deleted Blue Archive again. I know it says 3 stars are supposed to be a 2.5% chance, but it feels waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay lower than that. I think a few dozen more A's could express my frustration, but I don't want it to take up an entire line :<

That, in addition to how gems are so scarce, really is a buzzkill.

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Tennousu
12/31/21 6:04:54 AM
#273:


YugiNoob posted...
Yeah, I deleted Blue Archive again. I know it says 3 stars are supposed to be a 2.5% chance, but it feels waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay lower than that. I think a few dozen more A's could express my frustration, but I don't want it to take up an entire line :<

That, in addition to how gems are so scarce, really is a buzzkill.

I'm just too used with troll rolls in GBF that I am completely okay with BA's shit rate.
Admittedly I had a rather okay gacha for BA.
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YugiNoob
12/31/21 6:12:16 AM
#274:


I've never had such bad luck with gachas as I have with BA. 32 10 pulls to get Kal'tsit just once in Arknights pales in comparison to BA, since at the very least in Arknights, I got several 6 stars along the way. In BA I would go like 30 pulls without getting a single non-guaranteed 3 star <_<

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Tennousu
12/31/21 7:25:17 AM
#275:


Because AK gacha is designed to increase in 6* chance as you pull (afaik that is how it works).

Genshin also is the same (e: they have even worse 5* rate), however they have increased chance after certain point and guarantee-if-failed-the-previous-attempt to back it up.

Meanwhile in BA, like GBF, you either hit the mark or not. Nothing to help you except 200 recruitment points for pick-up guarantee. Knowing how the gacha works allows one to tamper their expectation. Still sucks, but it is what it is.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
12/31/21 7:39:20 AM
#276:


Tennousu posted...
I'm just too used with troll rolls in GBF that I am completely okay with BA's shit rate.
Admittedly I had a rather okay gacha for BA.


Yeah, my luck was decent too going for Midori/Momoi and got me some other *3 I didn't have at the time. Just as well too, it was the first time I pulled since the tutorial.

Now I go from catgirl banner to waiting for bunnygirl banner.

https://i.imgur.com/Mvylx08.mp4

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YugiNoob
12/31/21 7:39:42 AM
#277:


Arknights only goes up after 50 pulls, and that's only if you didn't get any 6 stars.

But I've had much, MUCH better luck in literally every single other gacha I've played. I was only using Kal'tsit as an example because that was the next worst luck I've had, which was still leagues better than BA. Even at 1%, I would get 5 stars in FGO much more frequently.

What did you mean by "Knowing how the gacha works allows one to tamper their expectation." though? I don't quite understand, although I know how most gachas work. Like how some games have sparking, some have rising pity rates, some have a guarantee after X pulls, some don't have anything, etc.

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Funkydog
12/31/21 8:00:39 AM
#278:


Ultimately, RNG means that it will always be possible for you to get fucked over and is something you gotta accept when gambling. As that's what gacha is. Some definitely do it better with pity, slowly increasing rates etc, but even they won't always help you if you just get unlucky.

And you will get unlucky at some point.

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YugiNoob
12/31/21 8:08:25 AM
#279:


Yeah, I know. But this is what it's like for me (looking back I should've made that "every other gacha combined")

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/7/AAPV5JAACwhx.jpg

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Tennousu
12/31/21 8:48:07 AM
#280:


YugiNoob posted...
What did you mean by "Knowing how the gacha works allows one to tamper their expectation." though? I don't quite understand, although I know how most gachas work. Like how some games have sparking, some have rising pity rates, some have a guarantee after X pulls, some don't have anything, etc.

Because then you won't feel as bad being cucked by the gacha because you would go, 'okay, that happens' whenever the gacha shits on you, and instead trying to make use of whatever you got, which I was absolutely prepared to do.

Looking back at it, I might have an even harder time in BA if not for the fact I pulled both Iori and Hina from that free beginning 10 pull without reroll (I genuinely hate reroll), who carried my team's asses pretty well.

My regret would be not trying pulling on Izuna banner. ;_;

edit: why is s-h-i-z is censored in Shizuko? English is not my 1st so is there anything I missed? @_@
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YugiNoob
12/31/21 8:59:51 AM
#281:


I'm afraid I still don't quite understand. Like in BA, the gacha is simple: 2.5% rate for 3 stars with no pity. But despite having a higher rate than a lot of other games I've played, I have had by far the worst luck with pulls. Would I not feel as bad if I didn't know the rate or something?

Also this site censors weird stuff sometimes. I needed to say "non-Iron Blood" instead of just using IB for short, because...reasons?

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Tennousu
12/31/21 9:12:33 AM
#282:


Well, 2.5% is just that, 2.5%. It can absolutely fail you, just like how some people get lucky in Genshin with its 0.6% 5*. It is best to just shrug and move on if the gacha result is bad.

Like few hours ago I spent 30 more pulls on Aris' banner and got dud. Disappointed, but I also knew it just, like, can happen.
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YugiNoob
12/31/21 9:34:59 AM
#283:


Yeah, I know that. Given the ridiculous amount of games I've played, it's to be expected that I've been let down countless times. Unfortunately for BA though, I can't really shrug it off since

  • I keep getting those bad drops after literally thousands of pulls on both the JP and global versions
  • Gems trickle in slowly
  • The game crashes constantly


The thrill of the pull is one of the draws of gachas, and when you see a dull screen with no 3 stars time after time after time, it sort of kills the mood. It would've been nice if they had a more generous gacha system like FEH, PGR, Arknights, Mythic Heroes, Opera Omnia, Guardian Tales, Azur Lane, or GFL. But eh, they chose to do it that way, which is why I chose to quit.

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Tennousu
12/31/21 11:13:29 AM
#284:


Happy New Year from UTC + 8.

I'm spending it by Momo Talk-ing lmao.
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Umbreon
12/31/21 11:26:08 AM
#285:


Finally got this girl to +10 a few days ago.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/4/AAbloxAACwjm.jpg

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Eab1990
12/31/21 11:43:21 AM
#286:


https://twitter.com/FateGOHub/status/1476951363061829632

Lol, FGO adds another pity system and it sucks almost as much as the first one.

330 summons translates to... $500-something?

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Spidey5
12/31/21 11:59:38 AM
#287:


I didn't even know it had any kind of pity system lmao. This is sad.

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Eab1990
12/31/21 12:03:40 PM
#288:


The other pity system is the USO "get 10 dupes of any NP5 SSR you have and you can exchange for an SSR of choice".

Since launch, I only have 2 USOs. Because Altera kept spooking me.

Though any Nightingale dupes I get from now on will also add to the counter. Fucking Xmas banner.

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ShadowElite86
12/31/21 12:13:45 PM
#289:


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.longyou.goth.global

This game is a shameless copy of Illusion Connect but this is a rare instance that I'm ok with it considering how shitty Superprism is. Some of the art is pretty good though but it's hard to say if it's actually worth playing.

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Spidey5
12/31/21 12:15:48 PM
#290:


Eab1990 posted...
The other pity system is the USO "get 10 dupes of any NP5 SSR you have and you can exchange for an SSR of choice".

Since launch, I only have 2 USOs. Because Altera kept spooking me.

Though any Nightingale dupes I get from now on will also add to the counter. Fucking Xmas banner.
I'll be going for the Alter Ego/ Foreigner GSSR, so I might get a 6th Abby. >_>
I wouldn't even be mad. But I have 0 USOs

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Eab1990
12/31/21 12:39:37 PM
#291:


I'll probably roll Ruler/Avenger, since Scathach spooked me and made my Lancer plans look a lot less appealing now that it went from 75% new to 50%.

In E*S news, Achilles got a New Year alt. After her Christmas alt and her collab with Escalation Heroines, her boobs keep getting bigger. It's something she herself notes, so it's canon. All that said, I still don't have a single Achilles. Not the original, not Xmas, not even the collab.

In MGCM news, a demon girl is finally playable.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/8/AABqeEAACwkI.jpg

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Tyranthraxus
12/31/21 2:30:59 PM
#292:


I pulled out Hana from the training room and put in Scintilla

Been practicing a little.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/1/AARLwzAACwlR.jpg

Light remains my most shitty element right now.

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legendarylemur
12/31/21 6:21:36 PM
#293:


ShadowElite86 posted...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.longyou.goth.global

This game is a shameless copy of Illusion Connect but this is a rare instance that I'm ok with it considering how shitty Superprism is. Some of the art is pretty good though but it's hard to say if it's actually worth playing.
Well I dunno how much hand Superprism had on the current iteration of Illusion Connect, but it's honestly a pretty decent game to play especially as a newcomer. It's like surprisingly generous, and you don't need many dupes until you start getting to the harder contents. The arts and the story were decent too, though I think IC was never criticized for those kinds of things

I know the launch was kinda notorious, but I dunno I liked IC quite a bit on the time I was playing it. Didn't feel as much motivation anymore tho

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PikachuMaxwell
12/31/21 8:25:53 PM
#294:


Got Yuzu in Blue Archive through the "pity" system. Wasn't really planning on getting her, but I figured I was close, so what the heck. Didn't pay anything more.

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YugiNoob
12/31/21 8:26:35 PM
#295:


I liked IC, but I quit because it required so much time :<

I dont mind when games are shameless ripoffs as long as theyre improved though. Like Mythic Heroes is an AFK Arena clone, but it has so many improvements. Also bootleg Gilgamesh lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/2/AAPV5JAACwqS.jpg


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legendarylemur
12/31/21 8:27:08 PM
#296:


Yeah it was really busy. I quit for around the same reason. It definitely wasn't because the devs were greedy or the game was bad tho

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YugiNoob
01/01/22 9:14:57 AM
#297:


Where do you get the rewards for the clan battle in PriConne? It said that they're sent to the mail box, but I didn't get anything :<

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Calwings
01/01/22 10:37:10 AM
#298:


YugiNoob posted...
Where do you get the rewards for the clan battle in PriConne? It said that they're sent to the mail box, but I didn't get anything :<

PriConne (at least in global, don't know about JP) has a bad habit of "announcing" the CB rewards but not actually delivering them to everyone until a couple of weeks later when the next CB is about to start. I think they take the extra time to double-check for cheaters and readjust the rankings before finally delivering the rewards. It sucks, but we always get them eventually. Just gotta be patient.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Priconne/comments/n73r1s/crunchyroll_with_cb_rewards_be_like/

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YugiNoob
01/01/22 10:58:13 AM
#299:


Wtf so then I wont be able to use the gems on the Yui banner :<

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Calwings
01/01/22 11:39:20 AM
#300:


YugiNoob posted...
Wtf so then I wont be able to use the gems on the Yui banner :<

Nope, probably not.

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Eab1990
01/01/22 11:23:05 PM
#301:


So.

I was shitting on FGO JP's new pity system, and it turns out I needed to spend that amount just to get one Yang in NA. I got one more copy not long after, but shit.

NP3 Dantes from the GSSR. Not useless, but a boring result regardless.

And I went the full 200 pulls in PriFes and got zero new rainbows. At least I got my Little Lyrical trio.

Yeesh. Great start to the new year.

I still have to brace for Yunjin + 50/50 in Genshin.

Otherwise, I can grudgingly accept this as a low point of luck if it means my luck will bounce back by summer. Because I absolutely need that luck for summer Abby.

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