Current Events > Texas Bar must pay 300 BILLION to Victims Families Killed by a DRUNK DRIVER!!

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Full Throttle 12/12/21 3:16:47 PM #1:	Do you think 300 billion is "unreasonable" in this case? Yes No Do you think 300 billion is "unreasonable" in this case? - Results (40 votes) Yes 60% (24 votes) 24 No 40% (16 votes) 16 A Texas Sports Bar has been ordered to pay a massive 300 BILLION to the victims of a family of 59 y/o Tamra Kindred and her 16 y/o granddaughter, Aujuni Anderson who were both killed in 2017 by drunk driver, 29 y/o Joshua Delbosque who ran a red light at 91mph and ploughed into them with his Dodge Charger as he too also died. But the sports bar was held liable after Kindred's daughters brought a lawsuit against the now closed Beer Belly's Sports Bar wh oserved Joshua a dangerous amount of alcohol Although they were awarded the money, the women do not expect to receive any money as its geared towards awareness about drink driving and cautioning venues not to overse their customers They said despite him being intoxicated, Joshua was still able to open a second tab and served several more drinks that night and when he left, he had been served at least 11 times and had a blood alcohol of 0.283 that is 3 times Texas' legal driving limit of 0.08 and usually enough to make most people lost consciousness Just moments after he left in booze, he ran through a red light and crashed into the women. Kindred was on her way from picking up her granddaughter from her job at Cici's Pizza The lawsuit says "Beer Belly's was trading money for the safety of their patrons and the public by continuing to serve an intoxicated customer" The bar closed in 2019 and its owner was ordered to pay 1.04 billion in "actual" damages and another 300 billion in "exemplary damages" The family's goal was only to warn businesses who overserve alcohol to customers and letting them go knowing they are putting others at risk behind the wheel Do you think 300 billion is "unreasonable" for this? The 3 people who died including the drunk driver - https://i.imgur.com/Cbsqqo8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/83UpKPK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GXdzgMx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JPprKA6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dTDTKCT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4zruPsY.jpg Defunct Bar - https://i.imgur.com/9LmKx4v.jpg --- The News Will Continue...For Now call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:960853366] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote> Do you think 300 billion is "unreasonable" in this case? Yes No Vote View Results Do you think 300 billion is "unreasonable" in this case? - Results (40 votes) Yes 60% (24 votes) 24 No 40% (16 votes) 16 Show Voting Form A Texas Sports Bar has been ordered to pay a massive 300 BILLION to the victims of a family of 59 y/o Tamra Kindred and her 16 y/o granddaughter, Aujuni Anderson who were both killed in 2017 by drunk driver, 29 y/o Joshua Delbosque who ran a red light at 91mph and ploughed into them with his Dodge Charger as he too also died. But the sports bar was held liable after Kindred's daughters brought a lawsuit against the now closed Beer Belly's Sports Bar wh oserved Joshua a dangerous amount of alcohol Although they were awarded the money, the women do not expect to receive any money as its geared towards awareness about drink driving and cautioning venues not to overse their customers They said despite him being intoxicated, Joshua was still able to open a second tab and served several more drinks that night and when he left, he had been served at least 11 times and had a blood alcohol of 0.283 that is 3 times Texas' legal driving limit of 0.08 and usually enough to make most people lost consciousness Just moments after he left in booze, he ran through a red light and crashed into the women. Kindred was on her way from picking up her granddaughter from her job at Cici's Pizza The lawsuit says "Beer Belly's was trading money for the safety of their patrons and the public by continuing to serve an intoxicated customer" The bar closed in 2019 and its owner was ordered to pay 1.04 billion in "actual" damages and another 300 billion in "exemplary damages" The family's goal was only to warn businesses who overserve alcohol to customers and letting them go knowing they are putting others at risk behind the wheel Do you think 300 billion is "unreasonable" for this? The 3 people who died including the drunk driver - https://i.imgur.com/Cbsqqo8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/83UpKPK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GXdzgMx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JPprKA6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dTDTKCT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4zruPsY.jpg Defunct Bar - https://i.imgur.com/9LmKx4v.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelicRadiance 12/12/21 3:18:20 PM #2:	Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? --- She/Her <cite>AngelicRadiance posted [p:960853397] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 12/12/21 3:18:44 PM #3:	Yeah it seems fair. Rip to the victims --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:960853410] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it seems fair. Rip to the victims </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The X Dawg 12/12/21 3:20:37 PM #4:	AngelicRadiance posted... Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? Lol good luck on that one. <cite>The X Dawg posted [p:960853455] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this?</quote> Lol good luck on that one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/12/21 3:20:44 PM #5:	yeah that's just a judge sending a message. i'd imagine the business filed bankruptcy already. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:960853458] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>yeah that's just a judge sending a message. i'd imagine the business filed bankruptcy already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 12/12/21 3:20:50 PM #6:	Although they were awarded the money, the women do not expect to receive any money as its geared towards awareness so no real accountability. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:960853461] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote><quote>Although they were awarded the money, the women do not expect to receive any money as its geared towards awareness </quote> so no real accountability. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 12/12/21 3:23:52 PM #7:	I'm fine with doing whatever we can to stop drunk driving but what does this accomplish? that's imaginary money and the only result will be the owner's default. --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:960853527] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>I'm fine with doing whatever we can to stop drunk driving but what does this accomplish? that's imaginary money and the only result will be the owner's default. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeGuyUO 12/12/21 3:27:55 PM #8:	There are servers who don't want to cut off drunk people cuz they don't want to miss out on tips. <cite>SomeGuyUO posted [p:960853616] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>There are servers who don't want to cut off drunk people cuz they don't want to miss out on tips. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 12/12/21 3:28:01 PM #9:	With that headline I was expecting at least a dozen victims and a big chain restaurant bar. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:960853622] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>With that headline I was expecting at least a dozen victims and a big chain restaurant bar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/12/21 3:28:32 PM #10:	berlyman101 posted... I'm fine with doing whatever we can to stop drunk driving but what does this accomplish? that's imaginary money and the only result will be the owner's default. well you could probably crush a business with a lawsuit like that. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:960853636] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm fine with doing whatever we can to stop drunk driving but what does this accomplish? that's imaginary money and the only result will be the owner's default.</quote>well you could probably crush a business with a lawsuit like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 12/12/21 3:30:40 PM #11:	$300,000,000,000 I mean, yes it's a tragedy and something that definitely shouldn't have happened. But, isn't that a little too much? --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 <cite>Strider102 posted [p:960853678] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>$300,000,000,000 I mean, yes it's a tragedy and something that definitely shouldn't have happened. But, isn't that a little too much? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 12/12/21 3:30:57 PM #12:	berlyman101 posted... I'm fine with doing whatever we can to stop drunk driving but what does this accomplish? that's imaginary money and the only result will be the owner's default. Good <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:960853686] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm fine with doing whatever we can to stop drunk driving but what does this accomplish? that's imaginary money and the only result will be the owner's default.</quote>Good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mrduckbear 12/12/21 9:14:17 PM #13:	its a tie --- The Users have Spoken. News Will Continue...For Now <cite>mrduckbear posted [p:960863257] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>its a tie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 12/12/21 9:17:30 PM #14:	penalties like this should be a percentage of all future income. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Brought to you by... The Space Pope <cite>Medussa posted [p:960863348] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>penalties like this should be a percentage of all future income. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
samurai bandit 12/12/21 9:21:03 PM #15:	Strider102 posted... But, isn't that a little too much? Would you give your life and your granddaughter life (or child or whatever other family member precious to you) for 300 Billion? Death must be painful as to simulate a car crash. --- Go and watch Ef ~ A tale of memories now! <cite>samurai bandit posted [p:960863436] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite> <quote>But, isn't that a little too much?</quote> Would you give your life and your granddaughter life (or child or whatever other family member precious to you) for 300 Billion? Death must be painful as to simulate a car crash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 12/12/21 9:26:37 PM #16:	AngelicRadiance posted... Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:960863588] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spooffie 12/12/21 9:31:10 PM #17:	so if you get tipsy the bar is held responsible? thats dumb <cite>Spooffie posted [p:960863710] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>so if you get tipsy the bar is held responsible? thats dumb </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 12/12/21 9:33:42 PM #18:	AngelicRadiance posted... Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? Because they can do whatever they want. They are above the law. --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:960863758] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this?</quote>Because they can do whatever they want. They are above the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 12/12/21 10:00:41 PM #19:	AngelicRadiance posted... Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? The politicians who are bribed by them will lose their votes and influence and golden parachutes <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:960864444] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this?</quote>The politicians who are bribed by them will lose their votes and influence and golden parachutes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheChariot 12/12/21 10:10:53 PM #20:	samurai bandit posted... Would you give your life and your granddaughter life (or child or whatever other family member precious to you) for 300 Billion? Death must be painful as to simulate a car crash. Was the bar owner the drunk driver? As far as I am concerned, the bar owner bears zero responsibility. --- The Others are out there! Conservatives do not think right! They are anti-vax, anti-mask, and anti-social distancing. The pandemic has killed 800,000 Americans! <cite>TheChariot posted [p:960864745] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>samurai bandit posted... </cite> <quote>Would you give your life and your granddaughter life (or child or whatever other family member precious to you) for 300 Billion? Death must be painful as to simulate a car crash.</quote>Was the bar owner the drunk driver? As far as I am concerned, the bar owner bears zero responsibility. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 12/13/21 7:48:09 PM #21:	Spooffie posted... so if you get tipsy the bar is held responsible? thats dumb Yes. Granted this bar should have cut him off OR agreed to serve him if he surrenders his car keys and let's them call a cab when he's ready to leave. I noped outted from bartending at Red Robin after going through TAMS training. Basically the last person that served someone an alcoholic drink is liable IF that person is over the legal limit which is basically 2 drinks. So even if someone is already sauced when they come in but not showing any signs, if you serve them even one drink and they leave and kill someone you're liable. Which is very common, they get cut off at establishment A and go next door to establishment B. Because America, it's always someone else's fault. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:960889339] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>Spooffie posted... </cite> <quote>so if you get tipsy the bar is held responsible? thats dumb</quote> Yes. Granted this bar should have cut him off OR agreed to serve him if he surrenders his car keys and let's them call a cab when he's ready to leave. I noped outted from bartending at Red Robin after going through TAMS training. Basically the last person that served someone an alcoholic drink is liable IF that person is over the legal limit which is basically 2 drinks. So even if someone is already sauced when they come in but not showing any signs, if you serve them even one drink and they leave and kill someone you're liable. Which is very common, they get cut off at establishment A and go next door to establishment B. Because America, it's always someone else's fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/13/21 11:12:30 PM #22:	AngelicRadiance posted... Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? Because they want money from the corporations, not to just force bankruptcy. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:960895032] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this?</quote> Because they want money from the corporations, not to just force bankruptcy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
runewalshPSiv 12/13/21 11:22:27 PM #23:	Time to ban alcohol I guess. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss <cite>runewalshPSiv posted [p:960895282] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>Time to ban alcohol I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/13/21 11:23:23 PM #24:	AngelicRadiance posted... Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this? Coors can afford better lawyers than some backwater bar. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960895304] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't big corporations ever see penalties like this?</quote>Coors can afford better lawyers than some backwater bar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OudeGeuze 12/13/21 11:57:45 PM #25:	TheChariot posted... As far as I am concerned, the bar owner bears zero responsibility. its a good thing you dont own a bar <cite>OudeGeuze posted [p:960895982] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>TheChariot posted... </cite> <quote>As far as I am concerned, the bar owner bears zero responsibility.</quote>its a good thing you dont own a bar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/14/21 12:15:18 AM #26:	Can I sue the grocery store if I get blasted on 120 cans of Hamm's and wreck some shit? ...or do the wrecking victims get to sue? I'm not sure here. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960896343] in Texas Bar ... [t:79807298]...</cite> <quote>Can I sue the grocery store if I get blasted on 120 cans of Hamm's and wreck some shit? ...or do the wrecking victims get to sue? I'm not sure here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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