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teep_
12/12/21 8:15:40 AM
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...of X nationality when their relation to x country is tenous at best?

Case in point: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/9/AAaQveAACsAR.jpg

Like, dude, you live in America. You're American. If your parents are from somewhere else that's fine, but you don't see me calling myself Syrian because my dad's ancestors emigrated from Syria to what is now Pakistan many many years ago

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DocileOrangeCup
12/12/21 8:17:22 AM
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I'm actually from an ancient Mayan civilization

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Ivynn
12/12/21 8:17:26 AM
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They're not claiming the nationality, they're calling themselves the ethnicity which they are.

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RedLuigi
12/12/21 8:18:40 AM
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Cause Im from planet Earth so I can just pick wherever and Id be right

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David1988
12/12/21 8:18:51 AM
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Your grandpa emigrated from Syria?

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Ivynn
12/12/21 8:23:26 AM
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Also if you're grandfather emigrated from Syria to Pakistan, that would make you part Syrian ethnically.

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BilalPowell
12/12/21 8:25:11 AM
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Because unless you're an Indian you gotta say some other background to be accepted in society.

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Eramir
12/12/21 8:29:11 AM
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Exactly. My friends are 3rd generation Asian, they barely know anything about their heritage theyre American and claim to be American (rightfully so). Its also crazy to think there are 5th and 6th generation Chinese Americans already theyre 100% American
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/12/21 8:31:36 AM
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Because their family usually still holds a lot of culture from wherever

And people like to be in groups for whatever reason

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spikethedevil
12/12/21 8:33:26 AM
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Love how people are confused by the concept of being proud of/embracing your heritage.

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Alucard188
12/12/21 8:36:50 AM
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Yes, how silly of people for embracing their ethnic heritage. I say if your family lives in a country for more than 25 years, they should sever all ties to their ethnicity and fully embrace their new cultural heritage. Drink your fucking piss water beer, watch your stupid boring diamond game, and fuck that apple pie.


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Njolk
12/12/21 8:40:04 AM
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Im of the german tribal areas my grandpa sacked the romans

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Foppe
12/12/21 8:44:04 AM
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As a Viking, I can relate.

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thronedfire2
12/12/21 8:45:52 AM
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Because Native Americans are the American people

us white people are just the descendants of invaders

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Choco
12/12/21 8:57:01 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Love how people are confused by the concept of being proud of/embracing your heritage.
being proud of some national heritage is really fucking weird and creepy

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Choco
12/12/21 8:58:17 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Yes, how silly of people for embracing their ethnic heritage. I say if your family lives in a country for more than 25 years, they should sever all ties to their ethnicity and fully embrace their new cultural heritage. Drink your fucking piss water beer, watch your stupid boring diamond game, and fuck that apple pie.
or you can just admit that you're literally american? did you even look at the screenshot in the OP? why is a shitposter a mod i hate this place

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archedsoul
12/12/21 9:00:18 AM
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Not sure what point TC is making here.

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spikethedevil
12/12/21 9:00:24 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Love how people are confused by the concept of being proud of/embracing your heritage.

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spikethedevil
12/12/21 9:01:16 AM
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Choco posted...
or you can just admit that you're literally american? did you even look at the screenshot in the OP? why is a shitposter a mod i hate this place

Or you can accept that people are allowed to be proud of/embrace their heritage.

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K181
12/12/21 9:01:58 AM
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Choco posted...
or you can just admit that you're literally american? did you even look at the screenshot in the OP? why is a shitposter a mod i hate this place

Wow, easily triggered.

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DezDroppedFreak
12/12/21 9:05:10 AM
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Choco posted...
or you can just admit that you're literally american? did you even look at the screenshot in the OP? why is a shitposter a mod i hate this place
The example he posted is pretty bad for the point hes trying to make. Literally two generations removed, which is a lot more understandable why it would still be heavily embraced compared to someone that said 5-6X great grandparent

Also the whole thing about America itself is a conglomeration of multiple cultures, so people still openly embracing their heritage is a good thing, especially in the face of dumbfucks that are trying to actively stop that.

just a pretty shit topic tbh

K181 posted...
Wow, easily triggered.
they always fly off the handle at the slightest pushback or misunderstanding

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teep_
12/12/21 9:37:45 AM
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David1988 posted...
Your grandpa emigrated from Syria?
No, my grandma's grandma or something like that

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Tyranthraxus
12/12/21 9:37:51 AM
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I am literally the first person in my entire family history to be born in America. My mom literally wasn't even a citizen until I was like 7 years old.

Am I Italian yet?

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teep_
12/12/21 9:41:11 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Love how people are confused by the concept of being proud of/embracing your heritage.
There's a difference between embracing your heritage and claiming to be Italian because some person 5 generations ago in your family once ate a pizza

DezDroppedFreak posted...
Also the whole thing about America itself is a conglomeration of multiple cultures, so people still openly embracing their heritage is a good thing, especially in the face of dumbfucks that are trying to actively stop that.

just a pretty shit topic tbh
You know I love you, but this ain't it. If anything, it's the opposite: more people need to be accepted as 'American' than the dumbfucks are willing to accept

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/21 9:46:09 AM
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It's just a cultural difference about how identity is perceived between a giant continent-spanning country where everyone is a the same and feels a need to express individuality, and people from a tiny continent full tiny, different nations that easily set themselves apart from each other.

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COVxy
12/12/21 9:47:35 AM
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teep_ posted...
claiming to be Italian because some person 5 generations ago in your family once ate a pizza

That's not it lol.

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2Pacavelli
12/12/21 9:49:51 AM
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Native Americans are not Americans, America is the name the colonizers gave to them. They have their own names ethnic groups and tribes
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teep_
12/12/21 9:50:27 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It's just a cultural difference about how identity is perceived between a giant continent-spanning country where everyone is a the same and feels a need to express individuality, and people from a tiny continent full tiny, different nations that easily set themselves apart from each other.
I guess so, yeah

Though I take issue with calling the continent Europe 'tiny' but whatever

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ThyCorndog
12/12/21 9:51:24 AM
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you can say the dude is a quarter italian if you want too, but you guys don't think it's pretty cringe when he goes "as an italian, looks like I'd eat it!"?

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ArchHero
12/12/21 9:52:41 AM
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@Post 1: um???

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spikethedevil
12/12/21 9:52:42 AM
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teep_ posted...
There's a difference between embracing your heritage and claiming to be Italian because some person 5 generations ago in your family once ate a pizza

You know I love you, but this ain't it. If anything, it's the opposite: more people need to be accepted as 'American' than the dumbfucks are willing to accept

Your example was literally her Grandad ffs.


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DezDroppedFreak
12/12/21 9:53:34 AM
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teep_ posted...
There's a difference between embracing your heritage and claiming to be Italian because some person 5 generations ago in your family once ate a pizza

The screenshot you posted is not this though.

You know I love you, but this ain't it. If anything, it's the opposite: more people need to be accepted as 'American' than the dumbfucks are willing to accept

But they are American already, and embracing your national/ethnic heritage while being American, especially someone so recently removed, is something that is uniquely American. What they get mad about is when they dont fully assimilate and blend in with what they consider to be American norms.

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nexigrams
12/12/21 9:54:00 AM
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Humanity's fatal flaw. Tribalism.

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/21 9:54:00 AM
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teep_ posted...
I guess so, yeah

Though I take issue with calling the continent Europe 'tiny' but whatever
It's pretty small if you ignore russia, as you should.

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CyricZ
12/12/21 9:54:10 AM
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Commitment to cultural tradition swings a lot more weight for someone's upbringing than drops of blood.

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Ivynn
12/12/21 9:55:51 AM
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I thought I made a pretty good point @teep_ , why no acknowledge me :(

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Ivynn
12/12/21 9:57:11 AM
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The person said their grandad was from Sicily, so it's likely the former in this case.

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spikethedevil
12/12/21 10:01:49 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It's pretty small if you ignore russia, as you should.

Even ignoring Russia its still huge.

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lilORANG
12/12/21 10:04:00 AM
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You can identify as anything you want to in America

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/21 10:04:28 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Even ignoring Russia its still huge.
Nah bro.

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Ivynn
12/12/21 10:05:56 AM
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Europe is tiny, the Indian subcontinent is bigger, yet that's a subcontinent and Europe gets to be a continent. Ego much, Europe?

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Alucard188
12/12/21 10:15:32 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Native Americans are not Americans, America is the name the colonizers gave to them. They have their own names ethnic groups and tribes

That's why we don't refer to them as Native Americans in Canada. Even the term 'native' is steeped in colonized racial masking, so we don't use it either. They are called First Nations or indigenous peoples.

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TheOnionKnight
12/12/21 10:22:45 AM
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In other countries, when people trace their roots back, their roots don't get cut off so quickly. Whereas in the US, most people's roots get cut off after just a few generations. So the "American" national identity isn't as stable. I feel like this is something that a lot of people from other countries often don't really grasp.

With Italian Americans specifically, it seems pretty common for families to have very strong ties to their heritage. At least in NYC. I was dating a girl earlier this year whose whole family was born in the US, but they were still extremely Italian. And extremely Catholic, but that's another issue...

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2Pacavelli
12/12/21 10:24:06 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
That's why we don't refer to them as Native Americans in Canada. Even the term 'native' is steeped in colonized racial masking, so we don't use it either. They are called First Nations or indigenous peoples.

Yeah those two terms are more accurate and respectful, I usually use Indigenous myself
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COVxy
12/12/21 10:26:13 AM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
And extremely Catholic, but that's another issue...

It's not.

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TheOnionKnight
12/12/21 10:30:42 AM
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COVxy posted...
It's not.

lol oh man, it most certainly is. Italian =/= Catholic. Although the relationship is certainly intertwined and complicated.

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