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Lebronwon
12/01/21 8:53:23 PM
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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1466208960495640588



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DarthAragorn
12/01/21 8:55:49 PM
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Well she's right

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TommyG663513
12/01/21 8:59:04 PM
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An easy way to not be "forced to give birth against your will" as AOC puts it is to not get pregnant.

There's tons of birth control options available and no one absolutely has to have sex.

No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy and they have every sympathy from me.

Like I don't like the law either, but she is being misleading about what exactly it is.

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ScazarMeltex
12/01/21 9:00:29 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
An easy way to not be "forced to give birth against your will" as AOC puts it is to not get pregnant.

There's tons of birth control options available and no one absolutely has to have sex.

No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy and they have every sympathy from me.

Like I don't like the law either, but she is being misleading about what exactly it is.
None of that is relevant. It's still forcing a person to give birth against their will.

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DrizztLink
12/01/21 9:05:15 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
An easy way to not be "forced to give birth against your will" as AOC puts it is to not get pregnant.
An easy way to not look stupid is to not post but there you go.

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Zikten
12/01/21 9:06:01 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy

Its called abortion
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thronedfire2
12/01/21 9:07:20 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
An easy way to not be "forced to give birth against your will" as AOC puts it is to not get pregnant.

There's tons of birth control options available and no one absolutely has to have sex.

No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy and they have every sympathy from me.

Like I don't like the law either, but she is being misleading about what exactly it is.

how many birth control options are 100% effective?

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hockeybub89
12/01/21 9:07:55 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
An easy way to not be "forced to give birth against your will" as AOC puts it is to not get pregnant.

There's tons of birth control options available and no one absolutely has to have sex.

No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy and they have every sympathy from me.

Like I don't like the law either, but she is being misleading about what exactly it is.
Abortion is also a good birth control method and preferable to hoping really hard that human beings stop having sex all casual like.

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Smashingpmkns
12/01/21 9:09:24 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
no one absolutely has to have sex.

Lmao
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DarthAragorn
12/01/21 9:10:08 PM
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We also live in a country where the majority of schools refuse to actually teach how sex works.

Abortion should absolutely be available to everyone.

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DrizztLink
12/01/21 9:10:30 PM
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Gladius_ posted...
Heck, even having your tubes tied isn't 100% effective. Even a vasectomy! Can result in pregnancy though it's incredibly rare it can happen.
You can get a vasectomy and bone someone with their tubes tied while wearing a spermicidal condom and taking Plan B but you'll still be a Communist

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AngelsNAirwav3s
12/01/21 9:16:33 PM
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DarthAragorn
12/01/21 9:19:05 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
https://twitter.com/j__velasquez/status/1465372348983480333?s=21
If we're posting shit that doesn't matter, I took a fat shit earlier today

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Unsugarized_Foo
12/01/21 9:20:22 PM
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So is everyone one in here. Why'd you do that?

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Smashingpmkns
12/01/21 9:20:58 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
https://twitter.com/j__velasquez/status/1465372348983480333?s=21

Cuomo admin officials sure do know a lot about handwaiving inappropriate sexual behavior.
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12/01/21 9:22:32 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
https://twitter.com/j__velasquez/status/1465372348983480333?s=21
Disgusting, Pete Buttigieg should fire his presidential campaign advisor.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
12/01/21 9:22:53 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
If we're posting shit that doesn't matter, I took a fat shit earlier today

This whole topic is shit that doesnt matter

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Gamerguymass
12/01/21 9:34:42 PM
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What "credible" accusations? Her own friends testified they had no idea what she was talking about. Not to mention it was 30 years ago, there is nothing to investigate. It is long past the statute of limitations in addition to being a he said/she said case, its impossible to prove.

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BilalPowell
12/01/21 9:38:03 PM
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Brett's a cool dude he likes beer

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marthsheretoo
12/01/21 9:38:06 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
how many birth control options are 100% effective?

Not even abstinence if the Bible is to be believed.

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TommyG663513
12/01/21 10:20:30 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
None of that is relevant. It's still forcing a person to give birth against their will.

No one is getting pregnant against their will through consensual sex. You can reduce the risk of pregnancy very significantly through various birth control methods. The odds of pregnancy happening are very low with birth control.

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TommyG663513
12/01/21 10:24:58 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Abortion is also a good birth control method and preferable to hoping really hard that human beings stop having sex all casual like.

This is stupid. As a male, if I get a woman pregnant, then I legally have no say in what she does with the pregnancy. I then have no say over paying child support if she keeps the baby and I don't necessarily get rights to the child.

Only way for me to combat this is through birth control and selective abstinence.

Now I still don't agree with this law and think women should get to choose. People are still being hella dramatic about this though and all the stupid Handmaid's Tale memes about this are just straight garbage.

Oh and guess what? 45% of pro lifers are women.

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LightHawKnight
12/01/21 10:25:33 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
An easy way to not be "forced to give birth against your will" as AOC puts it is to not get pregnant.

There's tons of birth control options available and no one absolutely has to have sex.

No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy and they have every sympathy from me.

Like I don't like the law either, but she is being misleading about what exactly it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp8jfP3l2Ec

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refmon
12/01/21 10:26:40 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
What "credible" accusations? Her own friends testified they had no idea what she was talking about. Not to mention it was 30 years ago, there is nothing to investigate. It is long past the statute of limitations in addition to being a he said/she said case, its impossible to prove.


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BilalPowell
12/01/21 10:28:50 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
What "credible" accusations? Her own friends testified they had no idea what she was talking about. Not to mention it was 30 years ago, there is nothing to investigate. It is long past the statute of limitations in addition to being a he said/she said case, its impossible to prove.
It has to be credible. Twitter removes posts that promote misinformation and this post wasn't removed.

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Gobstoppers12
12/01/21 10:31:10 PM
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She seems pretty upset, tbh. Maybe she should take a break from Twitter.

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ElatedVenusaur
12/01/21 10:33:22 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Not to mention it's really, really hard for women to get their tubes tied in most places.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/07/getting-your-tubes-tied-why-do-young-women-have-a-hard-time-getting-sterilized.html
https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kxam7/tubal-ligation-requirements-doctor-denials
For really sexist reasons often centering on "Well, maybe you'll want kids later/your husband will want kids/your husband will die and the new one will want kids".

The funniest/saddest part? A tubal ligation is actually completely reversable.

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TerraSeeker
12/01/21 10:36:45 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
It has to be credible. Twitter removes posts that promote misinformation and this post wasn't removed.
That's their claim, but it's actually to push their political agenda.

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shnangyboos
12/01/21 11:07:43 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...


Oh and guess what? 45% of pro lifers are women.


The very progressive feminists dismiss all of them as brainwashed idiots who don't know any better.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
12/01/21 11:12:41 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
What "credible" accusations? Her own friends testified they had no idea what she was talking about. Not to mention it was 30 years ago, there is nothing to investigate. It is long past the statute of limitations in addition to being a he said/she said case, its impossible to prove.

Let us NOT forget the multiple credible accusations brought forth by esteemed attorney Michael Avenatti!

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ThanksUglyGod
12/01/21 11:15:19 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
This is stupid. As a male, if I get a woman pregnant, then I legally have no say in what she does with the pregnancy. I then have no say over paying child support if she keeps the baby and I don't necessarily get rights to the child.

Only way for me to combat this is through birth control and selective abstinence.

Now I still don't agree with this law and think women should get to choose. People are still being hella dramatic about this though and all the stupid Handmaid's Tale memes about this are just straight garbage.

Oh and guess what? 45% of pro lifers are women.
People are being dramatic because you can't ban people from getting an abortion. You can only ban people from getting a safe and easily accessible one.
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hockeybub89
12/02/21 12:59:20 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
This is stupid. As a male, if I get a woman pregnant, then I legally have no say in what she does with the pregnancy. I then have no say over paying child support if she keeps the baby and I don't necessarily get rights to the child.

Only way for me to combat this is through birth control and selective abstinence.

Now I still don't agree with this law and think women should get to choose. People are still being hella dramatic about this though and all the stupid Handmaid's Tale memes about this are just straight garbage.

Oh and guess what? 45% of pro lifers are women.
It's not dramatic. If abortion is banned, then women have basically no human rights. And some women believing they are nothing more than tools to be used by superior men doesn't change that.

It is correct that men have no say. Only one parent can carry a child, but two parents need to support a living one.

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TommyG663513
12/02/21 6:13:23 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
It's not dramatic. If abortion is banned, then women have basically no human rights. And some women believing they are nothing more than tools to be used by superior men doesn't change that. That will herald the collapse of society. When control of your own body is ceded to the state, there is nothing left.

It is correct that men have no say. Only one parent can carry a child, but two parents need to support a living one.

I stopped reading when you said without abortion women have no human rights. That is a laughably hyperbolic statement. Nothing else you say deserves my attention after such a ridiculous statement.

Again, men can get a women pregnant and have zero say after that. Do men lose all rights cause a woman has the power to control the pregnancy? I'm sure you would call that notion ridiculous and it is.

This law also isn't banning abortion. It is making abortion extremely difficult to get within one state.

I think it is a stupid law and it shouldn't exist, but don't act like women have zero options besides get pregnant and give birth. There is a long list of ways to avoid pregnancy and nothing is 100%, but very few things in life are 100%.

If you aren't fully prepared to accept some possible consequences of sex then maybe just don't do it. Nobody is entitled to sex.


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TommyG663513
12/02/21 6:22:37 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
The very progressive feminists dismiss all of them as brainwashed idiots who don't know any better.

Yes there is all sorts of hypocrisy in progressive feminists not acknowledging the reality that 45% of all pro lifers are women.

The really funny thing is that among a myriad of political issues, abortion rights actually has the smallest gap between the opinions of men and the opinions of women. If you ask about gun control or vaccine mandates then you will see a larger gap between men and women.

This notion people try to push like "abortion rights are a fundamental right for all women" simply is not at all believed by almost half of all women.

That is just reality.


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Shablagoo
12/02/21 6:32:49 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
If you aren't fully prepared to accept some possible consequences of sex then maybe just don't do it. Nobody is entitled to sex.

Good idea, if we ignore material reality maybe itll go away.

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Ving_Rhames
12/02/21 6:48:23 AM
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Why is anyone still responding to the absolute joker that said this

TommyG663513 posted...
No solution for non consensual sex resulting in pregnancy and they have every sympathy from me.

Like, foh. Look at this dudes existence lmao

hey srry bout ur rape just gotta deal with it but i hope my thoughts and prayers are enough to heal your trauma, impending medical bills, and ruined future!

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TommyG663513
12/02/21 6:50:06 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Good idea, if we ignore material reality maybe itll go away.

Yeah safe sex education which everyone seems to support (except hardcore fundamentalists) says absolutely nothing about there being consequences to sex. It doesn't at all mention any sort of risk to sex be that disease or pregnancy.

So yeah you're right. There should be absolutely no attempt to inform people of the reality of their actions and the possible consequences. No safe sex education should ever point out that although birth control methods are very good and will decrease the possibility of pregnancy dramatically that abstinence is technically the only 100% method to prevent pregnancy.

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TommyG663513
12/02/21 6:51:41 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Why is anyone still responding to the absolute joker that said this

Like, foh. Look at this dudes existence lmao

hey srry bout ur rape just gotta deal with it but i hope my thoughts and prayers are enough to heal your trauma, impending medical bills, and ruined future!

I acknowledged a group that gets pretty screwed over by this law, but the vast majority of people still have a wealth of options available to them.

Also, women who were raped can still get an abortion if they get it within a certain window.

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spikethedevil
12/02/21 6:56:45 AM
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Just report this guy and move on.

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Funkydog
12/02/21 6:58:42 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I stopped reading when you said without abortion women have no human rights. That is a laughably hyperbolic statement. Nothing else you say deserves my attention after such a ridiculous statement.

Again, men can get a women pregnant and have zero say after that. Do men lose all rights cause a woman has the power to control the pregnancy? I'm sure you would call that notion ridiculous and it is.

This law also isn't banning abortion. It is making abortion extremely difficult to get within one state.

I think it is a stupid law and it shouldn't exist, but don't act like women have zero options besides get pregnant and give birth. There is a long list of ways to avoid pregnancy and nothing is 100%, but very few things in life are 100%.

If you aren't fully prepared to accept some possible consequences of sex then maybe just don't do it. Nobody is entitled to sex.

So because contraception fails we're now fucked and have to raise an unwanted child we might not be financial or mentally able to support?

Or we get raped and, like many rape victims, correctly believe we will receive minimal to no support so are unlikely to be able to meet the "acceptable criteria" we're once again fucked.

A petty partner purposely gets us pregnant against our will means we're fucked?

Now, I'm not American, but even I can see that this law universally fucks women hard. America offers utterly piss poor access to contraceptives, poor education about it and poor access to the morning after pill.

And yes, as a man you get no say in what a woman decides to do with her own body. Don't like it? Develop a way for men to carry a child to birth or shut the fuck up. This isn't a decision that impacts you. A child carries much more implication than just "give birth" and can cause massive changes to the woman in question - along with various other physical and mental impacts, along with "just give it up" all but ensuring the child has a fucking awful life given how shit the adoption process is in the west.

Being against full and easy access abortion rights is a disgrace and will lead to more restrictions against not only women, but men. We all suffer from it.
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TommyG663513
12/02/21 6:58:49 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Just report this guy and move on.

Hahahahahahaha

Yeah just report anyone to the moderators that you have a disagreement with. Just do that in life and see how far that gets you. Just LOL

Like holy crap people need to get a grip.

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Shablagoo
12/02/21 6:59:29 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Yeah safe sex education which everyone seems to support (except hardcore fundamentalists) says absolutely nothing about there being consequences to sex. It doesn't at all mention any sort of risk to sex be that disease or pregnancy.

So yeah you're right. There should be absolutely no attempt to inform people of the reality of their actions and the possible consequences. No safe sex education should ever point out that although birth control methods are very good and will decrease the possibility of pregnancy dramatically that abstinence is technically the only 100% method to prevent pregnancy.

And your solution to the fact that people will have sex and get pregnant without wanting to regardless of how much safe sex education theyve received is to allow draconian anti-abortion laws.

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spikethedevil
12/02/21 7:00:50 AM
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Wonder what he thinks should happen if the pregnancy is planned but it goes wrong and may kill the woman if not aborted.

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