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Smackems 11/25/21 4:36:14 PM #51:	Because, IMO, if there is a god it's not benevolent or malevolent --- Common sense led me to a stinky cave - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:960346885] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Because, IMO, if there is a god it's not benevolent or malevolent </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/25/21 4:36:17 PM #52:	he's not benevolent in the way you're insisting, and benevolence is not why he wants your faith. there is all kind of suffering in the world. he made is son a man just so he would experience our extreme human pain and die. it is mysterious --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:960346889] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>he's not benevolent in the way you're insisting, and benevolence is not why he wants your faith. there is all kind of suffering in the world. he made is son a man just so he would experience our extreme human pain and die. it is mysterious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpriteLimit 11/25/21 4:36:24 PM #53:	The bible never states that God is omnipotent. It describes many of its abilities that make it seem to be able to do anything, but it never explicitly states that it is omnipotent. So, it is possible that God doesn't have the power to give or cure anyone of cancer. It is nearly omnipotent, but not quite. --- Broken <cite>SpriteLimit posted [p:960346891] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>The bible never states that God is omnipotent. It describes many of its abilities that make it seem to be able to do anything, but it never explicitly states that it is omnipotent. So, it is possible that God doesn't have the power to give or cure anyone of cancer. It is nearly omnipotent, but not quite. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 11/25/21 4:37:20 PM #54:	Smackems posted... Because, IMO, if there is a god it's not benevolent or malevolent Correct. Attributing human constructs to what is a universe creating entity is hilarious, arrogant, and shortsighted. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:960346915] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Because, IMO, if there is a god it's not benevolent or malevolent</quote> Correct. Attributing human constructs to what is a universe creating entity is hilarious, arrogant, and shortsighted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Owsla 11/25/21 4:39:03 PM #56:	Southernfatman posted... What about God Gundam? Goddam --- i'm tired of wondering how i can manage if my life's just acceptable collateral damage <cite>Owsla posted [p:960346951] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite> <quote>What about God Gundam?</quote> Goddam </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 11/25/21 4:41:31 PM #57:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Do we really have a need for this bullshit on Thanksgiving ? I think not. We talking about this topic or the Detroit Lions on tv for the 100th consecutive year? --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:960347025] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>Do we really have a need for this bullshit on Thanksgiving ? I think not.</quote> We talking about this topic or the Detroit Lions on tv for the 100th consecutive year? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 11/25/21 4:44:59 PM #58:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Do we really have a need for this bullshit on Thanksgiving ? I think not. Thanksgiving is a religious holiday, today we celebrate when Jesus got his first pet turkey. --- I'll remain unperturbed by the joy and the madness that I encounter everywhere I turn Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:960347111] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>Do we really have a need for this bullshit on Thanksgiving ? I think not.</quote>Thanksgiving is a religious holiday, today we celebrate when Jesus got his first pet turkey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 11/25/21 4:45:29 PM #59:	Jagr_68 posted... We talking about this topic or the Detroit Lions on tv for the 100th consecutive year? Lmao yeah, the Lions are having a rough year. --- I'll remain unperturbed by the joy and the madness that I encounter everywhere I turn Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:960347121] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>We talking about this topic or the Detroit Lions on tv for the 100th consecutive year?</quote>Lmao yeah, the Lions are having a rough year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 11/25/21 4:46:59 PM #60:	SpriteLimit posted... The bible never states that God is omnipotent. It describes many of its abilities that make it seem to be able to do anything, but it never explicitly states that it is omnipotent. So, it is possible that God doesn't have the power to give or cure anyone of cancer. It is nearly omnipotent, but not quite. Jesus, while alive gave his apostles the ability to cure all illness along with driving out demons and so on If Jesus can literally just amend people to be able to through faith, along with being able to himself, God certainly can. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:960347168] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>SpriteLimit posted... </cite> <quote>The bible never states that God is omnipotent. It describes many of its abilities that make it seem to be able to do anything, but it never explicitly states that it is omnipotent. So, it is possible that God doesn't have the power to give or cure anyone of cancer. It is nearly omnipotent, but not quite.</quote> Jesus, while alive gave his apostles the ability to cure all illness along with driving out demons and so on If Jesus can literally just amend people to be able to through faith, along with being able to himself, God certainly can. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 11/25/21 4:47:39 PM #61:	Ving_Rhames posted... Correct. Attributing human constructs to what is a universe creating entity is hilarious, arrogant, and shortsighted. We anthropomorphize phenomena to make them make more sense to us; to make it seem that there's some kind of moral order to the universe. In reality, we have about as much chance of apprehending and comprehending a super-galactic intelligence as goldfish have of understanding the complexities of the human world on the other side of the glass wall of their bowl. They know that there's some higher power that sprinkles flakes of fish food onto the surface of the water every morning... And that's about it. That's all they'll ever know, or can ever know. They might try to dress it up with some mythology to make the mysterious hand that sprinkles the fish food seem more goldfish-comprehensible, but it's just a metaphor. --- No tricks <cite>Criminalt posted [p:960347192] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite> <quote>Correct. Attributing human constructs to what is a universe creating entity is hilarious, arrogant, and shortsighted.</quote>We anthropomorphize phenomena to make them make more sense to us; to make it seem that there's some kind of moral order to the universe. In reality, we have about as much chance of apprehending and comprehending a super-galactic intelligence as goldfish have of understanding the complexities of the human world on the other side of the glass wall of their bowl. They know that there's some higher power that sprinkles flakes of fish food onto the surface of the water every morning... And that's about it. That's all they'll ever know, or can ever know. They might try to dress it up with some mythology to make the mysterious hand that sprinkles the fish food seem more goldfish-comprehensible, but it's just a metaphor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 11/25/21 4:49:39 PM #62:	Because iTs iN gOdS pLaN just like it was in his plan to let the deadbeat dropouts I went to school with accidentally have kids they dont even take care of, and to kill our daughter in the womb after we tried for three years to have her thanks, God! Great plan bro, cant wait to see the next step --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:960347242] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Because iTs iN gOdS pLaN just like it was in his plan to let the deadbeat dropouts I went to school with accidentally have kids they dont even take care of, and to kill our daughter in the womb after we tried for three years to have her thanks, God! Great plan bro, cant wait to see the next step </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/25/21 5:08:55 PM #63:	itachi15243 posted... I hate this question Its is because it's part of God's plan and there is heaven waiting for them. God thinks on a higher existence This is like asking why there are natural disasters or even why the roads get icy in the winter. God's not going to make everything perfect for humanity(born of the original sin) during life and there will be hard or even impossible obstacles for most people. And then awaits them the kingdom of heaven. Have you ever spent any time with a kid who has cancer? I have. I reject this answer with every fiber of my being. Punishing a child for an abstract concept like original sin is abhorrent. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:960347811] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>I hate this question Its is because it's part of God's plan and there is heaven waiting for them. God thinks on a higher existence This is like asking why there are natural disasters or even why the roads get icy in the winter. God's not going to make everything perfect for humanity(born of the original sin) during life and there will be hard or even impossible obstacles for most people. And then awaits them the kingdom of heaven.</quote>Have you ever spent any time with a kid who has cancer? I have. I reject this answer with every fiber of my being. Punishing a child for an abstract concept like original sin is abhorrent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 11/25/21 5:13:24 PM #64:	In my headcanon, God is the true villain and he's just trying to throw everyone off by slandering Satan. --- I'm a little teapot blowing off steam. https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/p6Wfowq <cite>Kitt posted [p:960347930] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>In my headcanon, God is the true villain and he's just trying to throw everyone off by slandering Satan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 11/25/21 5:15:35 PM #65:	Because if you believe in the Christian God then the child is guaranteed eternal life anyway. And the Christian God is commonly misconstrued as a good and nice being who isn't capable of inflicting terrible things. The Christian God is a hardass who is more than willing to let people suffer to fulfill purposes beyond human comprehension. --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:960347989] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Because if you believe in the Christian God then the child is guaranteed eternal life anyway. And the Christian God is commonly misconstrued as a good and nice being who isn't capable of inflicting terrible things. The Christian God is a hardass who is more than willing to let people suffer to fulfill purposes beyond human comprehension. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 11/25/21 5:15:35 PM #66:	If god exists, why doesnt he exist? Checkmate theists. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:960347990] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>If god exists, why doesnt he exist? Checkmate theists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 11/25/21 5:16:53 PM #67:	lol why would God be benevolent that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. This is the guy that invented hunger, spiders, and AIDS <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:960348021] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>lol why would God be benevolent that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. This is the guy that invented hunger, spiders, and AIDS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 11/25/21 5:19:39 PM #68:	Background_Guy posted... lol why would God be benevolent that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. This is the guy that invented hunger, spiders, and AIDS If you believe you spend 80 years on earth and then you get 100,000 years of peace and solitude, what does the suffering on earth matter for? You're still thinking short term. --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:960348084] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>lol why would God be benevolent that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. This is the guy that invented hunger, spiders, and AIDS</quote> If you believe you spend 80 years on earth and then you get 100,000 years of peace and solitude, what does the suffering on earth matter for? You're still thinking short term. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/25/21 5:20:02 PM #69:	Only God knows why he does what he does. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:960348090] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Only God knows why he does what he does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 11/25/21 5:21:28 PM #70:	ScazarMeltex posted... Have you ever spent any time with a kid who has cancer? I have. I reject this answer with every fiber of my being. Punishing a child for an abstract concept like original sin is abhorrent. Yeah that's rather shit. God: Sorry kid. You wanted a life with your parents? Too bad. You're up here with me in Heaven now. You put up a good fight I guess. Wanna watch your parents mourn with me? Not to mention stuff like creating diseases like cancer to begin with would hypothetically be on God. It can't all be blamed on us. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:960348135] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Have you ever spent any time with a kid who has cancer? I have. I reject this answer with every fiber of my being. Punishing a child for an abstract concept like original sin is abhorrent.</quote> Yeah that's rather shit. God: Sorry kid. You wanted a life with your parents? Too bad. You're up here with me in Heaven now. You put up a good fight I guess. Wanna watch your parents mourn with me? Not to mention stuff like creating diseases like cancer to begin with would hypothetically be on God. It can't all be blamed on us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 11/25/21 5:22:25 PM #71:	ScazarMeltex posted... Have you ever spent any time with a kid who has cancer? I have. I reject this answer with every fiber of my being. Punishing a child for an abstract concept like original sin is abhorrent. But it's not an abstract concept to God, nothing is. Whatever the reason may be. He knows exactly why it happens and what purpose it serves. His son died for our all of our sins. An average person trying to understand why God does what he does is like a dog trying to figure out why human person goes to work in the morning. Just doesn't work unless God wants you to know. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:960348168] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Have you ever spent any time with a kid who has cancer? I have. I reject this answer with every fiber of my being. Punishing a child for an abstract concept like original sin is abhorrent.</quote> But it's not an abstract concept to God, nothing is. Whatever the reason may be. He knows exactly why it happens and what purpose it serves. His son died for our all of our sins. An average person trying to understand why God does what he does is like a dog trying to figure out why human person goes to work in the morning. Just doesn't work unless God wants you to know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dusk_ 11/25/21 5:22:52 PM #72:	If a god/creator of all exists. It sure as hell doesn't care about earth or what's on it. <cite>Dusk_ posted [p:960348185] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>If a god/creator of all exists. It sure as hell doesn't care about earth or what's on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 11/25/21 5:25:18 PM #73:	Xethuminra posted... What's the highest power then? Nothing? These tiny organic isolated consciousnesses? That's your world? My body disgarees with you. Why must there be a "power structure"? It seems like you are jumping to a conclusion without proving the premise. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:960348256] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>What's the highest power then? Nothing? These tiny organic isolated consciousnesses? That's your world? My body disgarees with you.</quote>Why must there be a "power structure"? It seems like you are jumping to a conclusion without proving the premise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 11/25/21 5:28:07 PM #74:	I like how we continue to make zero progress on any of the made up shit in the bible existing. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:960348324] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>I like how we continue to make zero progress on any of the made up shit in the bible existing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 11/25/21 5:29:27 PM #75:	TheHoldSteady posted... If you believe you spend 80 years on earth and then you get 100,000 years of peace and solitude, what does the suffering on earth matter for? You're still thinking short term. Because I still have to suffer for 80 years for no discernable reason. "Why complain when your dad beat you three, MAYBE four times a year when he buys you a new Xbox and gets you your favorite pizza every week?" If a "sentient" entity is inflicting harm on me, I would like to understand what the point is before simply accepting. I'll let you stick me with a syringe as I understand the syringe delivers a vaccine. I'm not going to accept 80 years of pain for a supposed eternity of happiness that no one can conveniently even provide evidence for. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:960348359] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>TheHoldSteady posted... </cite> <quote>If you believe you spend 80 years on earth and then you get 100,000 years of peace and solitude, what does the suffering on earth matter for? You're still thinking short term.</quote>Because I still have to suffer for 80 years for no discernable reason. "Why complain when your dad beat you three, MAYBE four times a year when he buys you a new Xbox and gets you your favorite pizza every week?" If a "sentient" entity is inflicting harm on me, I would like to understand what the point is before simply accepting. I'll let you stick me with a syringe as I understand the syringe delivers a vaccine. I'm not going to accept 80 years of pain for a supposed eternity of happiness that no one can conveniently even provide evidence for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 11/25/21 5:30:53 PM #76:	LordMarshal posted... I like how we continue to make zero progress on any of the made up shit in the bible existing. It is pretty convenient that God hasn't bothered to show any obvious miracles or send a new son or daughter when we're more educated and able to record proof. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:960348396] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>LordMarshal posted... </cite> <quote>I like how we continue to make zero progress on any of the made up shit in the bible existing.</quote> It is pretty convenient that God hasn't bothered to show any obvious miracles or send a new son or daughter when we're more educated and able to record proof. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 11/25/21 5:31:52 PM #77:	Punished_Blinx posted... It is pretty convenient that God hasn't bothered to show any obvious miracles or send a new son or daughter when we're more educated and able to record proof. But he needs money. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:960348426] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>It is pretty convenient that God hasn't bothered to show any obvious miracles or send a new son or daughter when we're more educated and able to record proof.</quote> But he needs money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB mofo 11/25/21 5:31:55 PM #78:	Xethuminra posted... Abrahamic topic. Who told you god was "benevolent" and do you think He is benign? How can you solve your problems if God solves them for you? What's the saying about horses and water? Pick your poison: (1. Creation is broken due to Adam and Eve introducing sin to the world, and illness and death was one of the results. (2. Satan is responsible for cancer. (3. God created cancer as a means to test people's faith in the face of life and death. Abraham faiths typically fall into one or more of these as an explanation. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB mofo posted [p:960348429] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>Abrahamic topic. Who told you god was "benevolent" and do you think He is benign? How can you solve your problems if God solves them for you? What's the saying about horses and water?</quote> Pick your poison: (1. Creation is broken due to Adam and Eve introducing sin to the world, and illness and death was one of the results. (2. Satan is responsible for cancer. (3. God created cancer as a means to test people's faith in the face of life and death. Abraham faiths typically fall into one or more of these as an explanation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/25/21 5:32:57 PM #79:	Criminalt posted... In reality, we have about as much chance of apprehending and comprehending a super-galactic intelligence as goldfish have of understanding the complexities of the human world on the other side of the glass wall of their bowl. Its worse than that because that example presupposes that there is even a glass bowl designed to house the fish. It could be that the fish simply lives in a natural body of water, with no designer needed at all. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:960348461] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Criminalt posted... </cite> <quote>In reality, we have about as much chance of apprehending and comprehending a super-galactic intelligence as goldfish have of understanding the complexities of the human world on the other side of the glass wall of their bowl. </quote> Its worse than that because that example presupposes that there is even a glass bowl designed to house the fish. It could be that the fish simply lives in a natural body of water, with no designer needed at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordMarshal 11/25/21 5:34:22 PM #81:	Its too hard to understand. Then fuck it. Endless rationalities for something that doesnt exist. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:960348496] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Its too hard to understand. Then fuck it. Endless rationalities for something that doesnt exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/25/21 5:39:52 PM #82:	itachi15243 posted... But it's not an abstract concept to God, nothing is. Whatever the reason may be. He knows exactly why it happens and what purpose it serves. His son died for our all of our sins. An average person trying to understand why God does what he does is like a dog trying to figure out why human person goes to work in the morning. Just doesn't work unless God wants you to know. If I'm to be expected to prostrate myself in worship and live my life according to God's principles I have a right to expect to be able to understand why things are what they are. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:960348661] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>But it's not an abstract concept to God, nothing is. Whatever the reason may be. He knows exactly why it happens and what purpose it serves. His son died for our all of our sins. An average person trying to understand why God does what he does is like a dog trying to figure out why human person goes to work in the morning. Just doesn't work unless God wants you to know.</quote>If I'm to be expected to prostrate myself in worship and live my life according to God's principles I have a right to expect to be able to understand why things are what they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 11/25/21 5:40:14 PM #83:	LordMarshal posted... Its too hard to understand. Then fuck it. Endless rationalities for something that doesnt exist. You just have to accept that the human mind is finite. Knowledge is too vast for it to correctly process everything. There will always be things that are impossible to understand. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You should read about the theory of universal reconciliation --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:960348672] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>LordMarshal posted... </cite> <quote>Its too hard to understand. Then fuck it. Endless rationalities for something that doesnt exist.</quote> You just have to accept that the human mind is finite. Knowledge is too vast for it to correctly process everything. There will always be things that are impossible to understand. <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You should read about the theory of universal reconciliation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HA4e 11/25/21 5:45:20 PM #85:	He giveths and takeths --- "They don't decide who you are, you do. You are who you choose to be." "Who cares about the quantity, if all you just need is the quality." <cite>HA4e posted [p:960348797] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>He giveths and takeths </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blissfuldissona 11/25/21 5:58:21 PM #86:	Your right, fuck him --- -Official Scorpion of Super Smash Brothers Ultimate- <cite>blissfuldissona posted [p:960349159] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Your right, fuck him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 11/25/21 6:04:08 PM #87:	Gladius_ posted... I know all about it but I also know that it is rejected by most mainstream theologists. There's good reason too. It contradicts what is told in the bible. If you believe in Universal Reconciliation then there is no reason to believe any aspect of the bible nor worship god. There's plenty of sound Biblically-based arguments for it and many have written books on the subject. Hope Beyond Hell by Gerry Beauchemin is one off the top of my head. Gladius_ posted... Further I reject the idea behind "Humans knowledge is finite and our comprehension is limited." It is a fair point but it basically states we can't comprehend god's morality, motives, or actions through our human minds. If this is the case then it is very acceptable to consider under human standpoint that God is evil and worshipping God is detrimental as a human being. No because again, to assume God is evil then is to assume you know all of God's motives. It's an extreme towards the same direction of over-estimating human comprehension. It's a simple matter and it's that not all of God's motives are comprehensible by us. And that brings me to say that I don't think being a Christian is about trying to go to Heaven instead of Hell. It's about following God, and since Heaven is guaranteed to God's followers then universal reconciliation is really beside the point (unless you're worried about the afterlife fate of others, I digress) --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:960349310] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Gladius_ posted... </cite> <quote>I know all about it but I also know that it is rejected by most mainstream theologists. There's good reason too. It contradicts what is told in the bible. If you believe in Universal Reconciliation then there is no reason to believe any aspect of the bible nor worship god.</quote> There's plenty of sound Biblically-based arguments for it and many have written books on the subject. Hope Beyond Hell by Gerry Beauchemin is one off the top of my head. Gladius_ posted... </cite> <quote>Further I reject the idea behind "Humans knowledge is finite and our comprehension is limited." It is a fair point but it basically states we can't comprehend god's morality, motives, or actions through our human minds. If this is the case then it is very acceptable to consider under human standpoint that God is evil and worshipping God is detrimental as a human being.</quote> No because again, to assume God is evil then is to assume you know all of God's motives. It's an extreme towards the same direction of over-estimating human comprehension. It's a simple matter and it's that not all of God's motives are comprehensible by us. And that brings me to say that I don't think being a Christian is about trying to go to Heaven instead of Hell. It's about following God, and since Heaven is guaranteed to God's followers then universal reconciliation is really beside the point (unless you're worried about the afterlife fate of others, I digress) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VayneSolo 11/25/21 6:04:46 PM #88:	Dusk_ posted... If a god/creator of all exists. It sure as hell doesn't care about earth or what's on it. Why create something if you don't care about what you're creating? Unless you're without conciousness, it makes no sense. It makes much more sense to posit there is no creator whatsoever. <cite>VayneSolo posted [p:960349326] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Dusk_ posted... </cite> <quote>If a god/creator of all exists. It sure as hell doesn't care about earth or what's on it.</quote>Why create something if you don't care about what you're creating? Unless you're without conciousness, it makes no sense. It makes much more sense to posit there is no creator whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 11/25/21 6:05:59 PM #89:	VayneSolo posted... Why create something if you don't care about what you're creating? Unless you're without conciousness, it makes no sense. It makes much more sense to posit there is no creator whatsoever. Do you care about the changes you cause on an atomic level when you walk through mud? Why does the creator have to care/or even be aware of what it's doing/creating? --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:960349361] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>VayneSolo posted... </cite> <quote>Why create something if you don't care about what you're creating? Unless you're without conciousness, it makes no sense. It makes much more sense to posit there is no creator whatsoever.</quote> Do you care about the changes you cause on an atomic level when you walk through mud? Why does the creator have to care/or even be aware of what it's doing/creating? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 11/25/21 6:07:17 PM #90:	Ving_Rhames posted... Do you care about the changes you cause on an atomic level when you walk through mud? Why does the creator have to care/or even be aware of what it's doing/creating? Maybe I would if I personally created that mud. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:960349400] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite> <quote>Do you care about the changes you cause on an atomic level when you walk through mud? Why does the creator have to care/or even be aware of what it's doing/creating?</quote> Maybe I would if I personally created that mud. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VayneSolo 11/25/21 6:10:18 PM #91:	Ving_Rhames posted... Do you care about the changes you cause on an atomic level when you walk through mud? People out there say a god created us. How is the changes we make on an "atomic level" related to creating a species endowed with consciousness? Are we perhaps creating conscious life on an atomic or sub-atomic level and unaware of it? It doesn't make sense. Why do we need to posit the existence of a creator? <cite>VayneSolo posted [p:960349472] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite> <quote>Do you care about the changes you cause on an atomic level when you walk through mud?</quote>People out there say a god created us. How is the changes we make on an "atomic level" related to creating a species endowed with consciousness? Are we perhaps creating conscious life on an atomic or sub-atomic level and unaware of it? It doesn't make sense. Why do we need to posit the existence of a creator? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 11/25/21 6:42:14 PM #92:	ScazarMeltex posted... If I'm to be expected to prostrate myself in worship and live my life according to God's principles I have a right to expect to be able to understand why things are what they are. According to who The God that responsible for all existence and every aspect of your life along with everyone's you know and everything you know on a level you can't comprehend? Or yours, because bad things happen due to the fact that the earth is not heaven. Would you be happier if God took away all your freedom he gives you for a happy life with no cigarettes, alcohol, coal or any other cancer inducing substance? Or cancer and disease in general? Look at how many nice things people have ruined and tell me it's God's fault all the time. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:960350284] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>If I'm to be expected to prostrate myself in worship and live my life according to God's principles I have a right to expect to be able to understand why things are what they are.</quote> According to who The God that responsible for all existence and every aspect of your life along with everyone's you know and everything you know on a level you can't comprehend? Or yours, because bad things happen due to the fact that the earth is not heaven. Would you be happier if God took away all your freedom he gives you for a happy life with no cigarettes, alcohol, coal or any other cancer inducing substance? Or cancer and disease in general? Look at how many nice things people have ruined and tell me it's God's fault all the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 11/25/21 6:44:18 PM #93:	itachi15243 posted... Would you be happier if God took away all your freedom he gives you for a happy life with no cigarettes, alcohol, coal or any other cancer inducing substance? Or cancer and disease in general? Isn't that what he's doing when kids die from natural causes and cancer and they go to heaven? --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:960350336] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>Would you be happier if God took away all your freedom he gives you for a happy life with no cigarettes, alcohol, coal or any other cancer inducing substance? Or cancer and disease in general?</quote> Isn't that what he's doing when kids die from natural causes and cancer and they go to heaven? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LNSS 11/25/21 6:44:23 PM #94:	Xethuminra posted... I'll let you all chill for a while. Because we're talking about me again. You seem very confused. To be clear, I'm not doing anything for you. God discussions are icing on the cake here for me. I wanna talk about Gundam right now. I dont come here to free the people of GameFAQs from themselves or whatever or join a clique. Sorry What would have happened if Zeon won the OYW? --- LNSS <cite>LNSS posted [p:960350339] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>I'll let you all chill for a while. Because we're talking about me again. You seem very confused. To be clear, I'm not doing anything for you. God discussions are icing on the cake here for me. I wanna talk about Gundam right now. I dont come here to free the people of GameFAQs from themselves or whatever or join a clique. Sorry</quote> What would have happened if Zeon won the OYW? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 11/25/21 6:47:27 PM #95:	Punished_Blinx posted... Isn't that what he's doing when kids die from natural causes and cancer and they go to heaven? Yes However heaven is not on earth --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:960350422] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't that what he's doing when kids die from natural causes and cancer and they go to heaven?</quote> Yes However heaven is not on earth </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/25/21 7:01:16 PM #96:	itachi15243 posted... According to who According to us. You know, the people who have to live and struggle through our lives and prefer not to be burdened with the stress of fearing eternal punishment for the finite crime of not bowing before some entity that supposedly created everything but is also super concerned about whether we worship it or not. Apparently god is a cosmic Only Fans model with bipolar disorder and is Ok with torturing its non subscribers. This is of course setting aside the fact that we havent even proved that this god, or really any gods, even exist. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:960350815] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>According to who</quote> According to us. You know, the people who have to live and struggle through our lives and prefer not to be burdened with the stress of fearing eternal punishment for the finite crime of not bowing before some entity that supposedly created everything but is also super concerned about whether we worship it or not. Apparently god is a cosmic Only Fans model with bipolar disorder and is Ok with torturing its non subscribers. This is of course setting aside the fact that we havent even proved that this god, or really any gods, even exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hoodroar 11/25/21 7:03:13 PM #97:	The cope is that terrible things happen to you in life so that you may be rewarded in the after life. --- ~ HR ~ <cite>Hoodroar posted [p:960350879] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>The cope is that terrible things happen to you in life so that you may be rewarded in the after life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 11/25/21 7:12:28 PM #98:	itachi15243 posted... According to who The God that responsible for all existence and every aspect of your life along with everyone's you know and everything you know on a level you can't comprehend? Or yours, because bad things happen due to the fact that the earth is not heaven. Would you be happier if God took away all your freedom he gives you for a happy life with no cigarettes, alcohol, coal or any other cancer inducing substance? Or cancer and disease in general? Look at how many nice things people have ruined and tell me it's God's fault all the time. Why would he have to take away the good to take away the bad? --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:960351108] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>According to who The God that responsible for all existence and every aspect of your life along with everyone's you know and everything you know on a level you can't comprehend? Or yours, because bad things happen due to the fact that the earth is not heaven. Would you be happier if God took away all your freedom he gives you for a happy life with no cigarettes, alcohol, coal or any other cancer inducing substance? Or cancer and disease in general? Look at how many nice things people have ruined and tell me it's God's fault all the time.</quote>Why would he have to take away the good to take away the bad? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 11/25/21 7:14:23 PM #99:	SpriteLimit posted... The bible never states that God is omnipotent. I think this is an important thing to remember, and it clears up many of the paradoxes concerning God. The Bible calls Him various degrees of powerful, but never quite attributes infinite power to Him. So maybe He tries His very best, but it isn't enough to stop all bad things from happening all of the time. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:960351150] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>SpriteLimit posted... </cite> <quote>The bible never states that God is omnipotent.</quote> I think this is an important thing to remember, and it clears up many of the paradoxes concerning God. The Bible calls Him various degrees of powerful, but never quite attributes infinite power to Him. So maybe He tries His very best, but it isn't enough to stop all bad things from happening all of the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DandyQuackShot 11/25/21 7:15:42 PM #100:	The short answer is God created people. People chose sin. Sin ends in death. Gods creation has been gifted the knowledge to combat cancers of all sorts... And the faith to understand that His Son defeated death. More help: peacewithgod.net --- https://youtu.be/Hjl1h2a-MBE <cite>DandyQuackShot posted [p:960351186] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote> The short answer is God created people. People chose sin. Sin ends in death. Gods creation has been gifted the knowledge to combat cancers of all sorts... And the faith to understand that His Son defeated death. More help: peacewithgod.net </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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