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itachi15243 11/25/21 7:23:41 PM #102:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... According to us. You know, the people who have to live and struggle through our lives and prefer not to be burdened with the stress of fearing eternal punishment for the finite crime of not bowing before some entity that supposedly created everything but is also super concerned about whether we worship it or not. Apparently god is a cosmic Only Fans model with bipolar disorder and is Ok with torturing its non subscribers. This is of course setting aside the fact that we havent even proved that this god, or really any gods, even exist. Jesus died for all sins, so you don't have to fear hell. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:960351400] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>According to us. You know, the people who have to live and struggle through our lives and prefer not to be burdened with the stress of fearing eternal punishment for the finite crime of not bowing before some entity that supposedly created everything but is also super concerned about whether we worship it or not. Apparently god is a cosmic Only Fans model with bipolar disorder and is Ok with torturing its non subscribers. This is of course setting aside the fact that we havent even proved that this god, or really any gods, even exist.</quote> Jesus died for all sins, so you don't have to fear hell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagicOracle 11/25/21 8:04:46 PM #103:	itachi15243 posted... Jesus died for all sins, so you don't have to fear hell. Okay, so even if we accept this for the sake of argument, you can't choose to believe in Jesus, because that's not how beliefs actually works; you're either convinced of something or you're not. Like, nobody wakes up and says to themselves "Oh today I'm gonna believe that invisible magical fairies exist in my backyard, even though this was never my persuasion before." Why did I bring this up? Because this is what your post seems to imply; that belief is a choice. You should think about the implications of this if you want to ground your faith against scrutiny just a little bit better. How do you personally solve this dilemma? --- Not a funny joke Dimentio. If I wanted to laugh your face is inspiration enough. - Mr. L <cite>MagicOracle posted [p:960352400] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>Jesus died for all sins, so you don't have to fear hell.</quote> Okay, so even if we accept this for the sake of argument, you can't choose to believe in Jesus, because that's not how beliefs actually works; you're either convinced of something or you're not. Like, nobody wakes up and says to themselves "Oh today I'm gonna believe that invisible magical fairies exist in my backyard, even though this was never my persuasion before." Why did I bring this up? Because this is what your post seems to imply; that belief is a choice. You should think about the implications of this if you want to ground your faith against scrutiny just a little bit better. How do you personally solve this dilemma? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedLuigi 11/25/21 8:12:37 PM #104:	I omitted your other paragraphs because you were wrong here at the beginning: MagicOracle posted... Okay, so even if we accept things as for the sake of argument, you can't choose to believe in Jesus, because that's not how beliefs actually works; you're either convinced of something or youre not --- It's-a-me! Green Mario! <cite>RedLuigi posted [p:960352610] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>I omitted your other paragraphs because you were wrong here at the beginning: MagicOracle posted... </cite> <quote>Okay, so even if we accept things as for the sake of argument, you can't choose to believe in Jesus, because that's not how beliefs actually works; you're either convinced of something or youre not</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagicOracle 11/25/21 8:16:29 PM #105:	RedLuigi posted... I omitted your other paragraphs because you were wrong here at the beginning: Good thing it'll take more than you telling me I'm wrong to convince me otherwise. Of course, another issue could be that we're using the term "belief" differently. I think you could use it in the colloquial sense to say that trusting someone is a choice (although I'd still argue that it isn't, but I'm going to withhold my reasoning for that unless you ask), which is also a form of belief. But I'm using it to mean persuasion, and that is decidedly something that you have no control over. You can pretend to believe something, and your emotions may even override the rational component of your brain enough to give you the impression that belief is a choice, but it's not. But what makes sense to you in your head is not something that you can decide. It should be completely self-explanatory if you'd be just a little more honest with yourself. --- Not a funny joke Dimentio. If I wanted to laugh your face is inspiration enough. - Mr. L <cite>MagicOracle posted [p:960352724] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>RedLuigi posted... </cite> <quote>I omitted your other paragraphs because you were wrong here at the beginning:</quote> Good thing it'll take more than you telling me I'm wrong to convince me otherwise. Of course, another issue could be that we're using the term "belief" differently. I think you could use it in the colloquial sense to say that trusting someone is a choice (although I'd still argue that it isn't, but I'm going to withhold my reasoning for that unless you ask), which is also a form of belief. But I'm using it to mean persuasion, and that is decidedly something that you have no control over. You can pretend to believe something, and your emotions may even override the rational component of your brain enough to give you the impression that belief is a choice, but it's not. But what makes sense to you in your head is not something that you can decide. It should be completely self-explanatory if you'd be just a little more honest with yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagicOracle 11/25/21 8:22:47 PM #106:	As an aside, I notice that it's typically religious people who claim that belief is a choice. Likely because the implications of it not being a choice would throw Christianity into the shitter for them. --- Not a funny joke Dimentio. If I wanted to laugh your face is inspiration enough. - Mr. L <cite>MagicOracle posted [p:960352915] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>As an aside, I notice that it's typically religious people who claim that belief is a choice. Likely because the implications of it not being a choice would throw Christianity into the shitter for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 11/25/21 8:24:15 PM #107:	God doesnt touch the ant farm <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:960352971] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>God doesnt touch the ant farm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dusk_ 11/25/21 8:25:53 PM #108:	VayneSolo posted... Why create something if you don't care about what you're creating? Unless you're without conciousness, it makes no sense. It makes much more sense to posit there is no creator whatsoever. There can't be nothing. It's literally is impossible, atleast with are human understanding. Something had to start creating things, Something can't just be. I believe "God" is mass of energy. Now how that mass came to be is something truly unfathomable. <cite>Dusk_ posted [p:960353018] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>VayneSolo posted... </cite> <quote>Why create something if you don't care about what you're creating? Unless you're without conciousness, it makes no sense. It makes much more sense to posit there is no creator whatsoever.</quote> There can't be nothing. It's literally is impossible, atleast with are human understanding. Something had to start creating things, Something can't just be. I believe "God" is mass of energy. Now how that mass came to be is something truly unfathomable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagicOracle 11/25/21 8:27:10 PM #109:	Dusk_ posted... Something had to start creating things, Something can't just be. How do we know the universe didn't simply create itself? I'm not saying it did or didn't, as cosmology is frankly outside of my expertise. But aren't you just making an assumption? You'd have to support that assumption, first of all, but that's a topic I'm willing to forgo for the sake of talking about what I actually asked. --- Not a funny joke Dimentio. If I wanted to laugh your face is inspiration enough. - Mr. L <cite>MagicOracle posted [p:960353065] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Dusk_ posted... </cite> <quote>Something had to start creating things, Something can't just be.</quote> How do we know the universe didn't simply create itself? I'm not saying it did or didn't, as cosmology is frankly outside of my expertise. But aren't you just making an assumption? You'd have to support that assumption, first of all, but that's a topic I'm willing to forgo for the sake of talking about what I actually asked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VayneSolo 11/26/21 12:49:52 AM #110:	Dusk_ posted... Something had to start creating things, Something can't just be. If you assume something had to create something, then that something that created something had to be created by something as well. If you say otherwise, then you will fall in the position (correct position, imo), that something can just be. We exist by a fluke, nothing more, nothing else. No sentient being created us. Nor the universe. <cite>VayneSolo posted [p:960358742] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Dusk_ posted... </cite> <quote>Something had to start creating things, Something can't just be.</quote>If you assume something had to create something, then that something that created something had to be created by something as well. If you say otherwise, then you will fall in the position (correct position, imo), that something can just be. We exist by a fluke, nothing more, nothing else. No sentient being created us. Nor the universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nexigrams 11/26/21 12:56:00 AM #111:	To give cancer doctors something to do, duh. --- https://imgur.com/SYiqIRC <cite>nexigrams posted [p:960358855] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>To give cancer doctors something to do, duh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scully87 11/26/21 1:00:54 AM #112:	Crescente posted... Because he works in mysterious ways lmao. Fuck God. --- I am error <cite>Scully87 posted [p:960358947] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Crescente posted... </cite> <quote>Because he works in mysterious ways lmao. Fuck God.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedLuigi 11/26/21 1:25:33 AM #113:	MagicOracle posted... Good thing it'll take more than you telling me I'm wrong to convince me otherwise. Of course, another issue could be that we're using the term "belief" differently. I think you could use it in the colloquial sense to say that trusting someone is a choice (although I'd still argue that it isn't, but I'm going to withhold my reasoning for that unless you ask), which is also a form of belief. But I'm using it to mean persuasion, and that is decidedly something that you have no control over. You can pretend to believe something, and your emotions may even override the rational component of your brain enough to give you the impression that belief is a choice, but it's not. But what makes sense to you in your head is not something that you can decide. It should be completely self-explanatory if you'd be just a little more honest with yourself. You say its an either or thing, thats on you and shows a basic understanding of the religion - Im not here to fix some kind of complex built from being mad at religion --- It's-a-me! Green Mario! <cite>RedLuigi posted [p:960359388] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>MagicOracle posted... </cite> <quote>Good thing it'll take more than you telling me I'm wrong to convince me otherwise. Of course, another issue could be that we're using the term "belief" differently. I think you could use it in the colloquial sense to say that trusting someone is a choice (although I'd still argue that it isn't, but I'm going to withhold my reasoning for that unless you ask), which is also a form of belief. But I'm using it to mean persuasion, and that is decidedly something that you have no control over. You can pretend to believe something, and your emotions may even override the rational component of your brain enough to give you the impression that belief is a choice, but it's not. But what makes sense to you in your head is not something that you can decide. It should be completely self-explanatory if you'd be just a little more honest with yourself.</quote> You say its an either or thing, thats on you and shows a basic understanding of the religion - Im not here to fix some kind of complex built from being mad at religion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 11/26/21 1:47:45 AM #114:	The problem stems from the fact that the Abrahamic religions require God to be this pure good entity in order to justify worshipping their God. If he wasn't all good, there would be almost no reason to follow their religion other than fear itself. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:960359732] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>The problem stems from the fact that the Abrahamic religions require God to be this pure good entity in order to justify worshipping their God. If he wasn't all good, there would be almost no reason to follow their religion other than fear itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/26/21 1:55:05 AM #115:	Prestoff posted... The problem stems from the fact that the Abrahamic religions require God to be this pure good entity in order to justify worshipping their God. If he wasn't all good, there would be almost no reason to follow their religion other than fear itself. not true. plenty of people have faith because they genuinely feel the presence of god in the world and in themselves. i've never heard anybody say they do because god is a good dude who deserves it --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:960359833] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite> <quote>The problem stems from the fact that the Abrahamic religions require God to be this pure good entity in order to justify worshipping their God. If he wasn't all good, there would be almost no reason to follow their religion other than fear itself.</quote>not true. plenty of people have faith because they genuinely feel the presence of god in the world and in themselves. i've never heard anybody say they do because god is a good dude who deserves it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 11/26/21 2:03:24 AM #116:	ledbowman posted... not true. plenty of people have faith because they genuinely feel the presence of god in the world and in themselves. i've never heard anybody say they do because god is a good dude who deserves it No, what I said is true. No one would want to worship an evil God, hence why he is always portrayed as good, even though the religious texts has so many instances of him doing really evil shit. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:960359943] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>not true. plenty of people have faith because they genuinely feel the presence of god in the world and in themselves. i've never heard anybody say they do because god is a good dude who deserves it</quote> No, what I said is true. No one would want to worship an evil God, hence why he is always portrayed as good, even though the religious texts has so many instances of him doing really evil shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/26/21 2:09:21 AM #117:	Prestoff posted... No, what I said is true. No one would want to worship an evil God, hence why he is always portrayed as good, even though the religious texts has so many instances of him doing really evil shit. you didn't say nobody would worship evil, you said nobody would worship not purely good, which is wrong --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:960360030] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite> <quote>No, what I said is true. No one would want to worship an evil God, hence why he is always portrayed as good, even though the religious texts has so many instances of him doing really evil shit.</quote>you didn't say nobody would worship evil, you said nobody would worship not purely good, which is wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 11/26/21 2:23:50 AM #118:	ledbowman posted... you didn't say nobody would worship evil, you said nobody would worship not purely good, which is wrong I see, you're getting the words "worship" and "faith" mixed up and think it's use interchangeably. Faith is just the action of believing, worshipping is the action of religious devotion to God. First, "plenty of people have faith because they genuinely feel the presence of god in the world and in themselves" when in reality people wouldn't have faith if they weren't taught to have faith. And if you were taught to have faith in a God who wasn't purely good, then there would be no reason to worship him. It's possible to have faith in a god, but it's not possible to worship a god you don't have faith in, which was what I was trying to get at. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:960360201] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>you didn't say nobody would worship evil, you said nobody would worship not purely good, which is wrong</quote> I see, you're getting the words "worship" and "faith" mixed up and think it's use interchangeably. Faith is just the action of believing, worshipping is the action of religious devotion to God. First, "plenty of people have faith because they genuinely feel the presence of god in the world and in themselves" when in reality people wouldn't have faith if they weren't taught to have faith. And if you were taught to have faith in a God who wasn't purely good, then there would be no reason to worship him. It's possible to have faith in a god, but it's not possible to worship a god you don't have faith in, which was what I was trying to get at. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulletproofvita 11/26/21 2:26:25 AM #119:	DuranOfForcena posted... "it's a test" "it's all part of god's plan" "our human minds are not meant to understand the will of god" etc., etc. What a copout --- I don't do signatures. <cite>bulletproofvita posted [p:960360244] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>"it's a test" "it's all part of god's plan" "our human minds are not meant to understand the will of god" etc., etc.</quote>What a copout </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 11/26/21 2:27:07 AM #120:	So that science can progress, but that's probably just part of the reason Wow, how hard is it to mod a religious position? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:960360250] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>So that science can progress, but that's probably just part of the reason Wow, how hard is it to mod a religious position? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 11/26/21 2:27:23 AM #121:	itachi15243 posted... But it's not an abstract concept to God, nothing is. Whatever the reason may be. He knows exactly why it happens and what purpose it serves. His son died for our all of our sins. An average person trying to understand why God does what he does is like a dog trying to figure out why human person goes to work in the morning. Just doesn't work unless God wants you to know. An average person is unable to comprehend the being that is God, his knowledge, his motivations, his actions,.... Yet a Christian will tell you all kinds of stuff that they claim to know and understand. Why God does things, what God knows, how God thinks,... Would be nice if a Christian had the balls to say "Fuck if I know, I'm just parroting what was told to me" <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:960360253] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite> <quote>But it's not an abstract concept to God, nothing is. Whatever the reason may be. He knows exactly why it happens and what purpose it serves. His son died for our all of our sins. An average person trying to understand why God does what he does is like a dog trying to figure out why human person goes to work in the morning. Just doesn't work unless God wants you to know.</quote> An average person is unable to comprehend the being that is God, his knowledge, his motivations, his actions,.... Yet a Christian will tell you all kinds of stuff that they claim to know and understand. Why God does things, what God knows, how God thinks,... Would be nice if a Christian had the balls to say "Fuck if I know, I'm just parroting what was told to me" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 11/26/21 5:01:02 AM #122:	To think that people still believe in Bronze Age mythology and fairytales, and spend a lifetime tying themselves in knots trying to dress up these ancient Near Eastern superstitions as absolute truth. Everything human has its origin in human weakness, and that includes a need for the comfort of religious faith. --- No tricks <cite>Criminalt posted [p:960361956] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>To think that people still believe in Bronze Age mythology and fairytales, and spend a lifetime tying themselves in knots trying to dress up these ancient Near Eastern superstitions as absolute truth. Everything human has its origin in human weakness, and that includes a need for the comfort of religious faith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/26/21 5:08:51 AM #123:	nothing has brought more people to god than big brained reddit angstheism --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:960362029] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>nothing has brought more people to god than big brained reddit angstheism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 11/26/21 5:15:38 AM #124:	ledbowman posted... nothing has brought more people to god than big brained reddit angstheism English Teachers Actually. Do a great job at making God palettable. They're relaying the vision of the authors. It's profound. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:960362106] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>nothing has brought more people to god than big brained reddit angstheism</quote>English Teachers Actually. Do a great job at making God palettable. They're relaying the vision of the authors. It's profound. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 11/26/21 5:17:26 AM #125:	cuz god a garbage ass bitch, fight me if you disagree god --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:960362122] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>cuz god a garbage ass bitch, fight me if you disagree god </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 11/26/21 5:18:49 AM #126:	Shablagoo posted... cuz god a garbage ass bitch, fight me if you disagree god Would you prefer a nuclear metaphor or to see plastic helmets smashed with baseball bats? Both are viable options <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:960362133] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>cuz god a garbage ass bitch, fight me if you disagree god</quote>Would you prefer a nuclear metaphor or to see plastic helmets smashed with baseball bats? Both are viable options </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 11/26/21 5:26:38 AM #127:	If any such God exists, he is most certainly not benevolent. You didn't need the "children" in your topic sentence either. Modern medicine works to try to mitigate the extreme amounts of pain that cancer causes the populace that suffer from it. If God cannot even be more merciful than modern medicine that is run by extremely flawed humans, than he is most certainly not anywhere near being benevolent. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:960362216] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>If any such God exists, he is most certainly not benevolent. You didn't need the "children" in your topic sentence either. Modern medicine works to try to mitigate the extreme amounts of pain that cancer causes the populace that suffer from it. If God cannot even be more merciful than modern medicine that is run by extremely flawed humans, than he is most certainly not anywhere near being benevolent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 11/26/21 5:41:04 AM #128:	TheSavageDragon posted... An average person is unable to comprehend the being that is God, his knowledge, his motivations, his actions,.... Yet a Christian will tell you all kinds of stuff that they claim to know and understand. Why God does things, what God knows, how God thinks,... Would be nice if a Christian had the balls to say "Fuck if I know, I'm just parroting what was told to me" If I told you I do you parrot the bible/gods and others words for these topics but actually met God and try to repeat what he said to me as I understood it would that make you happy? --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:960362338] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>TheSavageDragon posted... </cite> <quote>An average person is unable to comprehend the being that is God, his knowledge, his motivations, his actions,.... Yet a Christian will tell you all kinds of stuff that they claim to know and understand. Why God does things, what God knows, how God thinks,... Would be nice if a Christian had the balls to say "Fuck if I know, I'm just parroting what was told to me"</quote> If I told you I do you parrot the bible/gods and others words for these topics but actually met God and try to repeat what he said to me as I understood it would that make you happy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 11/26/21 5:46:34 AM #129:	God is less like a loving but stern father and more like your crazy uncle that shows up for holidays. "Don't eat shellfish! Don't wear clothes made from two fabrics!" --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:960362389] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>God is less like a loving but stern father and more like your crazy uncle that shows up for holidays. "Don't eat shellfish! Don't wear clothes made from two fabrics!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 11/26/21 5:50:05 AM #130:	people declared what God is, God got offended and made cancer --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. https://imgur.com/a/LEjr0RZ waifu courtesy of bnui_ransder <cite>Nukazie posted [p:960362427] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>people declared what God is, God got offended and made cancer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DandyQuackShot 11/26/21 9:55:26 AM #131:	DuranOfForcena posted... so cancer is caused by sin? lol okay The sad fact is 1 out of every 1 people die. I cant think of a death that isnt tragic, can you? The faith part is the belief that not only can we kick butt when it comes to diseases but that there is a God who loves us so much to also die for us. Hard to call someone like that a jerk. And He didnt start it. Unless you call God creating people being a jerk. People just going to people. People didnt believe we could land on the moon either but here we are going to Mars soon. My wife and child are both named after two different people who died of cancer. It has been a privilege to visit and pray with others going through the same. For four years Ive been keeping a company out of a reverse split that has a best in class NMIBC treatment. What do you believe? --- https://youtu.be/Hjl1h2a-MBE <cite>DandyQuackShot posted [p:960365332] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>so cancer is caused by sin? lol okay</quote> The sad fact is 1 out of every 1 people die. I cant think of a death that isnt tragic, can you? The faith part is the belief that not only can we kick butt when it comes to diseases but that there is a God who loves us so much to also die for us. Hard to call someone like that a jerk. And He didnt start it. Unless you call God creating people being a jerk. People just going to people. People didnt believe we could land on the moon either but here we are going to Mars soon. My wife and child are both named after two different people who died of cancer. It has been a privilege to visit and pray with others going through the same. For four years Ive been keeping a company out of a reverse split that has a best in class NMIBC treatment. What do you believe? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 11/26/21 10:42:44 AM #133:	The real irony is I never seen a pessimistic nihilistic kid with cancer. But a keyboard warrior loves using them as an excuse for their own pessimistic nihilistic outlook despite them not having cancer. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:960366238] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>The real irony is I never seen a pessimistic nihilistic kid with cancer. But a keyboard warrior loves using them as an excuse for their own pessimistic nihilistic outlook despite them not having cancer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 11/26/21 10:42:52 AM #134:	It's all part of God's plan https://youtu.be/McqoFdTFWj4 --- Go to this website for the TRUTH--if you can handle it! howbidenstoletheelection.com <cite>action52 posted [p:960366241] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>It's all part of God's plan https://youtu.be/McqoFdTFWj4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 11/26/21 10:46:28 AM #135:	TheSavageDragon posted... Yet a Christian will tell you all kinds of stuff that they claim to know and understand. Why God does things, what God knows, how God thinks,... 1 corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. You just agreed with the bible. And the point if the verse is the only things about God you may know is what he specifically revealed to you. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:960366325] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>TheSavageDragon posted... </cite> <quote>Yet a Christian will tell you all kinds of stuff that they claim to know and understand. Why God does things, what God knows, how God thinks,...</quote> 1 corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. You just agreed with the bible. And the point if the verse is the only things about God you may know is what he specifically revealed to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 11/26/21 10:47:50 AM #136:	As someone who believes in God, I don't blame anyone for not believing. It's all up to you. --- Da GOAT FAM 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:960366354] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>As someone who believes in God, I don't blame anyone for not believing. It's all up to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 11/26/21 10:47:52 AM #137:	TheHoldSteady posted... If you believe you spend 80 years on earth and then you get 100,000 years of peace and solitude, what does the suffering on earth matter for? You're still thinking short term. Implying he wouldn't also put spiders in Heaven <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:960366356] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>TheHoldSteady posted... </cite> <quote>If you believe you spend 80 years on earth and then you get 100,000 years of peace and solitude, what does the suffering on earth matter for? You're still thinking short term.</quote>Implying he wouldn't also put spiders in Heaven </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 11/26/21 10:51:19 AM #138:	RedLuigi posted... You say its an either or thing, thats on you and shows a basic understanding of the religion - Im not here to fix some kind of complex built from being mad at religion You can't choose to believe something lol. I can "choose" to believe in unicorns but in my mind I'd still know it's bullshit <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:960366443] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>RedLuigi posted... </cite> <quote>You say its an either or thing, thats on you and shows a basic understanding of the religion - Im not here to fix some kind of complex built from being mad at religion</quote>You can't choose to believe something lol. I can "choose" to believe in unicorns but in my mind I'd still know it's bullshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NecroFoul99 11/26/21 10:55:21 AM #139:	Sins of the father, blah, blah, blah. God gave us corn, we made high fructose corn syrup, kids got cancer, Gods like, WTF is up with this nasty corn syrup? YOU made corn syrup!!! --- If you have to lie to make your point, then you're just a liar who has no point. <cite>NecroFoul99 posted [p:960366542] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Sins of the father, blah, blah, blah. God gave us corn, we made high fructose corn syrup, kids got cancer, Gods like, WTF is up with this nasty corn syrup? YOU made corn syrup!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tsuyoi3 11/26/21 12:04:46 PM #141:	jumi posted... God is less like a loving but stern father and more like your crazy uncle that shows up for holidays. "Don't eat shellfish! Don't wear clothes made from two fabrics!" Tbf the shellfish one made sense back then, because of the large amount of disease if you don't do it right. The dietary things made sense. I'm unsure on the fabric thing, but I'm sure there's an explanation out there, might have to do with mingling with pagan cultures. Background_Guy posted... Implying he wouldn't also put spiders in Heaven This is one of the most entertaining sentences I have ever read. Thank you. --- Manliness transcends both space, and time. <cite>Tsuyoi3 posted [p:960368076] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>God is less like a loving but stern father and more like your crazy uncle that shows up for holidays. "Don't eat shellfish! Don't wear clothes made from two fabrics!"</quote>Tbf the shellfish one made sense back then, because of the large amount of disease if you don't do it right. The dietary things made sense. I'm unsure on the fabric thing, but I'm sure there's an explanation out there, might have to do with mingling with pagan cultures. Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>Implying he wouldn't also put spiders in Heaven</quote>This is one of the most entertaining sentences I have ever read. Thank you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Geist des Durcheinan 11/26/21 12:44:01 PM #143:	DandyQuackShot posted... The faith part is the belief that not only can we kick butt when it comes to diseases but that there is a God who loves us so much to also die for us. Are you talking about the God that sent his son down to earth (that was also himself) so that he could be sacrificed (to himself) so that he could go back up to heaven to be God again? That doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice at all. --- "If God were suddenly condemned to live the life which he has inflicted on man, he would kill himself" <cite>Geist des Durcheinan posted [p:960368990] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>DandyQuackShot posted... </cite> <quote>The faith part is the belief that not only can we kick butt when it comes to diseases but that there is a God who loves us so much to also die for us.</quote> Are you talking about the God that sent his son down to earth (that was also himself) so that he could be sacrificed (to himself) so that he could go back up to heaven to be God again? That doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 11/26/21 12:44:40 PM #144:	shockthemonkey posted... If someone thinks God created people who will suffer in life and unless they worship him properly, theyll suffer even more for all eternity and dont see how thats a dick move then I dont know how to have a conversation about morals with that person. Interestingly enough the story of Lazarus and the rich man did not depict Lazarus as a super faithful Jew or Christian. He was just a poor beggar who suffered his whole life. It just said this: Luke 16 25 But Abraham replied, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:960369009] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>If someone thinks God created people who will suffer in life and unless they worship him properly, theyll suffer even more for all eternity and dont see how thats a dick move then I dont know how to have a conversation about morals with that person.</quote> Interestingly enough the story of Lazarus and the rich man did not depict Lazarus as a super faithful Jew or Christian. He was just a poor beggar who suffered his whole life. It just said this: Luke 16 25 But Abraham replied, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 11/26/21 12:47:10 PM #145:	I'm reading through the old testament right now, and benevolence seems to mean we all deserve to eat shit and die but some of us don't have to by the grace of God. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:960369048] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>I'm reading through the old testament right now, and benevolence seems to mean we all deserve to eat shit and die but some of us don't have to by the grace of God. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PokemonExpert44 11/26/21 1:16:07 PM #146:	Geist des Durcheinan posted... Are you talking about the God that sent his son down to earth (that was also himself) so that he could be sacrificed (to himself) so that he could go back up to heaven to be God again? That doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice at all. Lol wow!! --- I just might 6-0 you in Pokemon. Watch out for my awesome teams. <cite>PokemonExpert44 posted [p:960369750] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Geist des Durcheinan posted... </cite> <quote>Are you talking about the God that sent his son down to earth (that was also himself) so that he could be sacrificed (to himself) so that he could go back up to heaven to be God again? That doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice at all.</quote>Lol wow!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 11/26/21 1:18:09 PM #147:	Jabodie posted... I'm reading through the old testament right now, and benevolence seems to mean we all deserve to eat shit and die but some of us don't have to by the grace of God. One argument that is ironic is "If God is real, why isn't he intervening today on a level we can test and quantify?" Like bro, have you read the Old Testament? You probably would not want that to happen today... <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:960369804] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>I'm reading through the old testament right now, and benevolence seems to mean we all deserve to eat shit and die but some of us don't have to by the grace of God.</quote> One argument that is ironic is "If God is real, why isn't he intervening today on a level we can test and quantify?" Like bro, have you read the Old Testament? You probably would not want that to happen today... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/26/21 1:22:13 PM #148:	Geist des Durcheinan posted... Are you talking about the God that sent his son down to earth (that was also himself) so that he could be sacrificed (to himself) so that he could go back up to heaven to be God again? That doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice at all. the covenant understander has logged on --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:960369947] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Geist des Durcheinan posted... </cite> <quote>Are you talking about the God that sent his son down to earth (that was also himself) so that he could be sacrificed (to himself) so that he could go back up to heaven to be God again? That doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice at all.</quote>the covenant understander has logged on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 11/26/21 1:37:24 PM #149:	Because according to the bible, God created the perfect world and made one rule to follow, and they broke that one rule so sin cursed the earth and brought disease, natural disasters, etc into the world. God doesn't interfere with human sins committed because that would interfere with free will. The idea is that God wanted his creations to decide to make the right decisions. Rather then creating perfect robots <cite>dioxxys posted [p:960370400] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>Because according to the bible, God created the perfect world and made one rule to follow, and they broke that one rule so sin cursed the earth and brought disease, natural disasters, etc into the world. God doesn't interfere with human sins committed because that would interfere with free will. The idea is that God wanted his creations to decide to make the right decisions. Rather then creating perfect robots </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/26/21 1:51:29 PM #150:	dioxxys posted... Because according to the bible, God created the perfect world and made one rule to follow, and they broke that one rule so sin cursed the earth and brought disease, natural disasters, etc into the world. God doesn't interfere with human sins committed because that would interfere with free will. The idea is that God wanted his creations to decide to make the right decisions. Rather then creating perfect robots Yeah, none of that makes sense though because Adam and Eve would not have understood the situation and its potential consequences until after eating the fruit, which then would have given them knowledge. Their god though would absolutely have known how dangerous it was to place that landmine of a tree where it was accessible to essentially children. Besides, couldn't a loving god just, you know, forgive them? Even if we accept this beings existence, it makes more sense to accept that it is uncaring at best or sadistic at worst. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:960370798] in If God is ... [t:79779015]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite> <quote>Because according to the bible, God created the perfect world and made one rule to follow, and they broke that one rule so sin cursed the earth and brought disease, natural disasters, etc into the world. God doesn't interfere with human sins committed because that would interfere with free will. The idea is that God wanted his creations to decide to make the right decisions. Rather then creating perfect robots</quote> Yeah, none of that makes sense though because Adam and Eve would not have understood the situation and its potential consequences until after eating the fruit, which then would have given them knowledge. Their god though would absolutely have known how dangerous it was to place that landmine of a tree where it was accessible to essentially children. Besides, couldn't a loving god just, you know, forgive them? Even if we accept this beings existence, it makes more sense to accept that it is uncaring at best or sadistic at worst. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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