Poll of the Day > Which do you feel is the worst business model?

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hypnox
11/12/21 6:37:57 AM
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Between these two which do you think is the worse?


EA is the typical standard price with MTX of items that are sometimes needed to play higher levels "Skill" and takes advantage of people who have addiction problems.
Games Workshop is the best example of, you gotta spend hundreds, if not a thousand dollars to "dip your toes" into it.

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Mead
11/12/21 7:10:09 AM
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Blockbuster man

everyone is nostalgic for them now which I get, but they were the fucking WORST

inside and out. Every level.

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adjl
11/12/21 8:52:02 AM
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GW's stuff is crazy overpriced, but at least they're up-front about it. EA's stuff is specifically designed to manipulate people into not realizing how much they're spending and/or to spend more than they would have if it were presented plainly. There's room to argue that GW is preying on those that are already addicted to collecting their stuff, but I don't think they really compare to how unabashedly predatory EA is.

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DragonClaw01
11/12/21 9:10:45 AM
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In terms of video games, definitely EA. The fact that people will spend thousands of dollars building thier teams in FIFA only to have the team whiped out the next year bogles my mind. That seems absurdly predatory to me.

Valves skin system in CS go is ludicrously rigged.$2.50 per case and you only get one skin and it is maybe a 1/50 chance of getting a rare skin and about a 1/200 chance of getting a knife or gloves. The EVs a are stupidly rigged. They compare themselves to trading cards, but trading cards give you 8 or so cards per pack with a gaurenteed chance of a rare. Even mystic rares are 1/8. The EVs for skins are a joke.

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hypnox
11/12/21 4:20:29 PM
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DragonClaw01 posted...


Valves skin system in CS go is ludicrously rigged.$2.50 per case and you only get one skin and it is maybe a 1/50 chance of getting a rare skin and about a 1/200 chance of getting a knife or gloves. The EVs a are stupidly rigged. They compare themselves to trading cards, but trading cards give you 8 or so cards per pack with a gaurenteed chance of a rare. Even mystic rares are 1/8. The EVs for skins are a joke.

Wizards of the coast is currently on a fine line with their stuff since technically, and they would never admit it, it's gambling. More so since some of their cards can come out instantly at 60-100 dollars.

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DragonClaw01
11/12/21 4:53:55 PM
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Yeah, TCG is pretty bad as well. But at least if you buy a box set for $200 there is a good chance you will have the majority of the set. In CS go skin market you can spend damn near a $1,000 and still not get a knife or gloves, instead only getting a bunch of 10 cent skins. There is a big reason a lot of the knives are close to $500 and keep on mind this is for a game that someday may cease to exist. At least with TCG your cards will last for decades, although power creep will most likely render then obsolete. Regardless best to avoid both markets.

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Lokarin
11/12/21 5:37:26 PM
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Anyone who thinks that the problem with GW has to do with model pricing isn't in on what they've been doing lately

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Mead
11/12/21 5:45:08 PM
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What games does Games Workshop make? I dont even know about them

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SKARDAVNELNATE
11/12/21 6:05:21 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Anyone who thinks that the problem with GW has to do with model pricing isn't in on what they've been doing lately
What are they up to?

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OneGrumpyUncle
11/12/21 6:14:30 PM
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Mead posted...
Blockbuster man

everyone is nostalgic for them now which I get, but they were the fucking WORST

inside and out. Every level.

I worked at Blockbuster Video in High School and I can tell you they made money hand over fist. Their business model worked for the time it just wasn't adaptable to the onset of streaming and on-demand video via digital cable.

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hypnox
11/12/21 7:29:28 PM
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Mead posted...
What games does Games Workshop make? I dont even know about them

Warhammer 40k and the other Table top war mini games.

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Lokarin
11/12/21 8:49:22 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
What are they up to?

they've been slamming content creators in a push for their own streaming service

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Rotpar
11/12/21 11:13:34 PM
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EA. GWS is overpriced and obsessed with protecting their property from non-threats, but they're not as manipulative and vile as EA.

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Dikitain
11/13/21 12:02:07 AM
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On the one hand, EA's is working better since their company is worth 10X the amount GW's is. On the other hand, pretty much everyone knows that GW's audience is upper middle class geeks with tons of disposable income, while EA is just...evil incarnate.

Seriously, fuck EA.

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Zeus
11/15/21 2:13:23 PM
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"Worse" how? Clearly EA has the better model if they make more money from it.

For value to consumers, more of EA seems accessible at a lower price point. EA's core content can be enjoyed at far lower expense.

hypnox posted...
Wizards of the coast is currently on a fine line with their stuff since technically, and they would never admit it, it's gambling. More so since some of their cards can come out instantly at 60-100 dollars.

Technically, that's true of CCG with random booster packs, although not all of them have a large enough secondary market to command high values. YGO and Pokemon still do, among others.

OneGrumpyUncle posted...
Their business model worked for the time it just wasn't adaptable to the onset of streaming and on-demand video via digital cable.

I know they had mail rentals -- because I used the service -- but did they ever have streaming? I *thought* they had streaming at one point.

Anyway, they got killed on multiple fronts. First, there was the mail-order rental and streaming. Then second, and perhaps even worse, were things like Redbox which offered offline rentals for newer releases at a lower price.

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adjl
11/15/21 2:33:30 PM
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Zeus posted...
"Worse" how?

Presumably in terms of how evil they are. GW's overpriced, but EA's outright predatory and manipulative, so it's a pretty easy comparison.

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