Current Events > Father killed his daughter's boyfriend for selling her into sex trafficking ring

(+) Yeah! (+)

We should start a go fund me so he can hire a modern Johnnie Cochran so he walks.

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dirtydog posted...

No it's still murder. If he'd harmed him in the course of rescuing his daughter it's one thing, but he went miles beyond that.

The most worrying thing in this thread is how quick people are to assume the whole story must be true, and to attack anyone even wondering if it might not be. I hope those people are never on a jury.

I think the more worrying thing is people that need to jump to the defense of a child sex trafficker's murder defense, more than anything.

Say what you will, but me saying 'he deserved worse' based on no evidence isn't doing anything wrong. If I were on an actual jury, I'd look at the evidence, but I'm free to say whatever shit I want on the internet.

Now imagine the people on this case that are actively rooting for prison time for the dad. You think they'll change their minds? Lol. This could be the most open and shut case, and you'll still have people like Cyric who condemn them. In fact, there WAS an open and shut case about it not too long ago, where people were jumping to the defense of a child rapist's murder.

The man raped his friend's daughter, all of which was recorded on the cellphone. The evidence was present, the father killed him right after he found out, iirc.

That hardly mattered, though. He needed to do time, in their eyes. Ignoring the fact, of course, that said case could warrant a temporary insanity plea, or a million other, far less punishing sentences.

But, of course, people who condemn a sex trafficker are the bad guys here.
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Slayer_22 posted...

think the more worrying thing is people that need to jump to the defense of a child sex trafficker's murder defense

Not this disingenuous shit again...

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You seriously don't fuck with a man's family.

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Slayer_22 posted...

I think the more worrying thing is people that need to jump to the defense of a child sex trafficker's murder defense, more than anything.

Say what you will, but me saying 'he deserved worse' based on no evidence isn't doing anything wrong. If I were on an actual jury, I'd look at the evidence, but I'm free to say whatever shit I want on the internet.

Now imagine the people on this case that are actively rooting for prison time for the dad. You think they'll change their minds? Lol. This could be the most open and shut case, and you'll still have people like Cyric who condemn them. In fact, there WAS an open and shut case about it not too long ago, where people were jumping to the defense of a child rapist's murder.

The man raped his friend's daughter, all of which was recorded on the cellphone. The evidence was present, the father killed him right after he found out, iirc.

That hardly mattered, though. He needed to do time, in their eyes. Ignoring the fact, of course, that said case could warrant a temporary insanity plea, or a million other, far less punishing sentences.

But, of course, people who condemn a sex trafficker are the bad guys here.

Alleged sex trafficker. But still, the public doesn't have the right to mete out vigilante justice. Doesn't matter if he was a serial killer, he deserved his day in court. Some of us believe in the rule of law and due process vs anarchy.

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Slayer_22 posted...

I think the more worrying thing is people that need to jump to the defense of a child sex trafficker's murder defense, more than anything.

Say what you will, but me saying 'he deserved worse' based on no evidence isn't doing anything wrong. If I were on an actual jury, I'd look at the evidence, but I'm free to say whatever shit I want on the internet.

Now imagine the people on this case that are actively rooting for prison time for the dad. You think they'll change their minds? Lol. This could be the most open and shut case, and you'll still have people like Cyric who condemn them. In fact, there WAS an open and shut case about it not too long ago, where people were jumping to the defense of a child rapist's murder.

The man raped his friend's daughter, all of which was recorded on the cellphone. The evidence was present, the father killed him right after he found out, iirc.

That hardly mattered, though. He needed to do time, in their eyes. Ignoring the fact, of course, that said case could warrant a temporary insanity plea, or a million other, far less punishing sentences.

But, of course, people who condemn a sex trafficker are the bad guys here.

Wait what.. There was a recording of his daughter being raped on a cell phone? Who even recorded also?

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Justice!

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Arcanine2009 posted...

Wait what.. There was a recording of his daughter being raped on a cell phone? Who even recorded also?

It was a different case unrelated to this one.

dirtydog posted...

Alleged sex trafficker. But still, the public doesn't have the right to mete out vigilante justice. Doesn't matter if he was a serial killer, he deserved his day in court. Some of us believe in the rule of law and due process vs anarchy.

And if he was proven guilty and got off scot-free, your response would be...?

Sphyx posted...

Not this disingenuous shit again...

Better than being gung-ho for a child sex trafficker, I think.
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Slayer_22 posted...

And if he was proven guilty and got off scot-free, your response would be...?

If he was proven guilty of murder then how would he get off scot-free?

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Give him 1 year of serious therapy to try and deal with his stress and the fucked up place he is after all that happened. Just because he saved his little girl does not mean he doesnt need to talk to a professional about what he went through.

The punishment should be community service for 6 months as he did kill but did so under duress and yes having your child sold into sex trafficking is duress of the highest kind.

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Only a full acquittal would be just.

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Even sex traffickers deserve a trial by a jury of their peers. We can't just have mentally distressed fathers going around killing people based on "information" they acquired.

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i would imprison him and torture him for the rest of his miserable existence but i guess this seems more appropriate...

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

he did kill but did so under duress and yes having your child sold into sex trafficking is duress of the highest kind

This is not what "duress" is. For it to be duress, he'd have to actually have some kind of active threat against himself or someone close to him to coerce him into killing. Note that's "active". Having a sex-trafficker helpless and tied up goes beyond active threats, and the amount of violence he put upon his victim is well beyond reasonable response.

What you're looking for is an insanity plea.

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I think this would drive most people into the murder part of their brain

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Slayer_22 posted...

Better than being gung-ho for a child sex trafficker, I think.

Nobody is doing that.

Going for that imaginary jugular again, I see.

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Dude sounds like the terminator. What a fucking G.

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dirtydog posted...

If he was proven guilty of murder then how would he get off scot-free?

"Hey, I know the names of the people who were actually involved in this and I can give you them."

"Okay, you get put in witness protection with no time served."

And don't make me pull up articles of child molesters getting no sentences despite being guilty. Like the dude that kept a girl in captivity for over a year and got a slap on the fucking wrist.

You have too much faith in the justice system.

Sphyx posted...

Nobody is doing that.

Going for that imaginary jugular again, I see.

Cyric going to bat for the guy hard, from what I can see.

The guy is dead, you don't gotta defend his honor anymore.
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EffectAndCause posted...

He should be found not guilty and given a medal for heroism.

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CyricZ posted...

Having a sex-trafficker helpless and tied up goes beyond active threats, and the amount of violence he put upon his victim is well beyond reasonable response.

Imagine saying this, and still feeling good about yourself.

"Guys, think about the sex traffickers!"
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Slayer_22 posted...

Imagine saying this, and still feeling good about yourself.

"Guys, think about the sex traffickers!"

It's about not being able to do whatever you want as long as you've determined the person deserves it. This is basic shit. Someone else might do this to someone you don't think deserves it, but you don't get to draw that line for other people when you've determined that there is a line, and crossing that line warrants whatever you want.

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Slayer_22 posted...

Imagine saying this, and still feeling good about yourself.

"Guys, think about the sex traffickers!"

The dudes defending the sex trafficker give me the creeps. Fuckin weirdos should be on a watch list. Probably already are.

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Did they ever prove the bf did it or are we just going by the word of the guy who beat him with a cinder block and stabbed him to death

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shnangyboos posted...

It's about not being able to do whatever you want as long as you've determined the person deserves it. This is basic shit. Someone else might do this to someone you don't think deserves it, but you don't get to draw that line for other people when you've determined that there is a line, and crossing that line warrants whatever you want.

The line here is a pretty simple one. Unless you think there should be a line drawn that doesn't include sex traffickers?

Forest_Temple posted...

The dudes defending the sex trafficker give me the creeps. Fuckin weirdos should be on a watch list. Probably already are.

They 100% deserve it too lol
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Tbh killing the guy was a mercy.

Should have cut his dick off instead.

Some of you are beyond absurd with this Oh, you dont think somebody should be able to abduct and murder <bad person of the day> with no consequences? You must love them or maybe be one yourself!!1! bullshit.

Every time this kinda thing comes up theres always people who think those of us who do not agree with the murder of the bad guy are somehow sticking up for the rapist/trafficker/whatever.

I agree with rule of law and due process and not vigilante justice. Of course the father deserves some form of punishment because this appears to be premeditated.

The trafficker deserved to rot, as determined by court of law.

If anything i just said is worrying i honestly dont know what to tell ya

So what would be a fair punishment for sex trafficking? Many years in jail at a mjnimum. Heck even life if the charges are serious enough.

Wanting a person to rot in jail for many years or even life doesnt sound like defending a guys honor but you can let me know i guess.

So, let's say the guy lived, admits his guilt, was turned into the police, and he cut a deal. No time served, put into witness protection.

Does that sound fair to you guys? That would be something determined under law, of course. But a sex trafficker goes free. Perfectly fine, though, because the law, right?
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I don't agree with plea deals. Peoole deserve to serve time for the crime regardless. But a plea deal could lead to more arrests which is good.

That is one outcome of the legal process. Vigilante justice also has plenty of outcomes like what if the dad had wrong information or the wrong person?

Some people responding clearly don't have children and are seeing this in the eyes of sex-trafficking = bad & murder = more bad. And I understand what they are saying however I have to disagree. As a father, your job is to protect your family at all costs. If it was proven that this guy sold his daughter into prostitution and he rescued her, then I believe he deserves everything the father had in store for him. Do I think the father should pay for killing the man that did this to his daughter? Yes however I think he should get a slap in the wrist and his time in jail will be cake because many inmates will leave him alone for what he did. I can speak for most fathers here in saying that if someone hurt my daughter the way this guy allegedly did, I wouldn't be in the right state of mind as well.

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Nu_Jersey_Devil posted...

Some people responding clearly don't have children and are seeing this in the eyes of sex-trafficking = bad & murder = more bad. And I understand what they are saying however I have to disagree. As a father, your job is to protect your family at all costs. If it was proven that this guy sold his daughter into prostitution and he rescued her, then I believe he deserves everything the father had in store for him. Do I think the father should pay for killing the man that did this to his daughter? Yes however I think he should get a slap in the wrist and his time in jail will be cake because many inmates will leave him alone for what he did. I can speak for most fathers here in saying that if someone hurt my daughter the way this guy allegedly did, I wouldn't be in the right state of mind as well.

What do you disagree about? That murder is more bad than sex trafficking?

IF this whole story is true, which remains to be seen, the father would be legally and/or morally entitled to use reasonable force to rescue his daughter. If in the course of this rescue, he killed someone trying to prevent him from said rescue, then that would be fine. Rescuing her and then kidnapping and brutally murdering the kidnapper afterwards is not excusable and he should serve the same sentence for murder as anyone else would.

And that's IF the story is true, which even assuming the father is telling the truth, he doesn't know if his daughter is. That's why we let the police and courts sort out the details and facts rather than taking the law into our own hands.

There have been MANY instances where a woman has told a gigantic lie about something supposedly bad happening to them, their father / husband / brother then murders the person the woman pointed the finger at, and it turned out later that person was completely innocent.

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Crazy that there are people who think that one mentally distressed man deciding on his own that someone is guilty, then kidnapping and executing them, is anything close to justice.

The father should get a lighter sentence if his allegations are true, but he's still a murderer. Sex traffickers should rot, but they still need to be convicted by due process, otherwise we get people going around killing innocent people.

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EffectAndCause posted...

He should be found not guilty and given a medal for heroism.

evilpresident posted...

Normally I don't approve of vigilantism... but I think I can make an exception for this case. Also, how on earth can a teenager sell someone into slavery like that???

How jaded/messed up was this guy?

These. I absolutely don't blame the father and I'd like to add that for those who think the father should be imprisoned for this, if you wouldn't have done the same thing for your daughter, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

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dragwarrfan posted...

those who think the father should be imprisoned for this, if you wouldn't have done the same thing for your daughter, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I would do the same for my daughter, and I would fully expect to be imprisoned for it.

Dude is a criminal.


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Xavier_On_High posted...

I would do the same for my daughter, and I would fully expect to be imprisoned for it.

Dude is a criminal.

A badass criminal*
Super cool awesome criminal.

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Slayer_22 posted...

Like the dude that kept a girl in captivity for over a year and got a slap on the fucking wrist.

What story was this in? Certainly don't deny it happened, just curious.


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So either you defend a murderer or you defend a sex trafficker?

They both deserve to be in prison. Also, idk if it was determined that the 19 year old did in fact sell her to traffickers or what.

The only thing we know for certain is that the father kidnapped someone, tied them up, and then murdered them while still tied up.

The father absolutely 100% deserves jail time. Not going to support murderous vigilantes.

I'm also not going to support sex traffickers either, but a lot of people will miss this nuance.

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TommyG663513 posted...

So either you defend a murderer or you defend a sex trafficker?

They both deserve to be in prison. Also, idk if it was determined that the 19 year old did in fact sell her to traffickers or what.

The only thing we know for certain is that the father kidnapped someone, tied them up, and then murdered them while still tied up.

The father absolutely 100% deserves jail time. Not going to support murderous vigilantes.

I'm also not going to support sex traffickers either, but a lot of people will miss this nuance.

You either defend a murderer who did it because his daughter was sold to sex trafficking or you defend the guy that sold his daughter for sex trafficking. Don't leave out important details to make it seem like its one of the lesser 2 evils. Clown.

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Tenlaar posted...

Some of you are beyond absurd with this Oh, you dont think somebody should be able to abduct and murder <bad person of the day> with no consequences? You must love them or maybe be one yourself!!1! bullshit.

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Reverend_Wilson posted...

hopefully, the murdering scumbag gets years in prison.

I think he deserves prison too, but shut the fuck up. How would you feel if your own child was supposedly sold into sex trafficking rings? Do you even have kids? Losing a child when they are a teenager is devastating and I know that based on people I know. You should have refrained from name calling in order to get your point across.

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Fair, hopefully the dad doesn't have to do any jail time

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If everything is true about the boyfriend, pops did what most any father would do.

But yeah he'll have to do the time, and I think he'll have his peace with that over what could've happened to his daughter.

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Forest_Temple posted...

You either defend a murderer who did it because his daughter was sold to sex trafficking or you defend the guy that sold his daughter for sex trafficking. Don't leave out important details to make it seem like its one of the lesser 2 evils. Clown.

This is just ignorant. You can think they were both in the wrong and thats not defending anybody.

Lairen posted...

You are wrong.

agreed

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Fuck that sex traffic guy, the father is a hero

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Tenlaar posted...

This is just ignorant. You can think they were both in the wrong and thats not defending anybody.

The father didnt tell the other person to sexually traffic his daughter. The father is not in the wrong

Kloe_Rinz posted...

The father didnt tell the other person to sexually traffic his daughter. The father is not in the wrong

The father abducted, beat, and murdered somebody. They are both in the wrong.

E_S_M_Z posted...

What story was this in? Certainly don't deny it happened, just curious.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/michael-wysolovski-georgia-teen-girl-assualt-torture-830393/

Because, you know, the justice system fucking works.
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