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Bio1590
11/02/21 3:38:19 PM
#51:


I wonder if they'll have hard evidence he actually intended to kill him.

Also if the guy was dead before the dad dumped him back in the car, drove the car out, and dumped the car isn't that also desecration of remains (or whatever it's called)? Seems weird that wouldn't be a charge here.
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AP3Brain
11/02/21 3:38:24 PM
#52:


andel posted...
not guilty, he killed the guy in defense of his daughter

That's not how laws work....
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Boombam99
11/02/21 3:41:36 PM
#54:


What literally should happen to every sex trafficker
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10InchNails
11/02/21 3:42:22 PM
#55:


Cant morally fault the dad for what he did, but you cant just pardon people who do stuff like this. Hopefully he'll have a light sentence.
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eston
11/02/21 3:43:13 PM
#56:


Bio1590 posted...
I wonder if they'll have hard evidence he actually intended to kill him.
He literally bashed his head with a cinder block and stabbed him a bunch of times, then abandoned the vehicle he was tied up inside of

What more could they possibly need

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CommonGrackle
11/02/21 3:43:52 PM
#57:


I don't think the dad should be pardoned and escape all punishment either. He did murder this person, you know, a person who was no direct threat to him or anyone else...
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Tenlaar
11/02/21 3:44:08 PM
#58:


Its always weird to me how many people on this board gleefully endorse vigilante murder.
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WarfireX
11/02/21 3:44:58 PM
#59:


violence like this is never acceptable. 2 wrongs dont make a write.

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Irony
11/02/21 3:46:13 PM
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WarfireX posted...
violence like this is never acceptable. 2 wrongs dont make a write.
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Bio1590
11/02/21 3:48:15 PM
#62:


eston posted...

He literally bashed his head with a cinder block and stabbed him a bunch of times, then abandoned the vehicle he was tied up inside of

What more could they possibly need

Abandoning the vehicle could be an "oh shit" reaction.

A guy I know got stabbed over a dozen times before (and lived) but they couldn't even get the guy that did it on attempted murder (even though it was targeted, over a girl) because proving intent is difficult by design.
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Tenlaar
11/02/21 3:49:07 PM
#63:


M_Live posted...
It's about context dude. I won't shed a single tear for a sex trafficker losing their life.
There is no context that makes premeditated vigilante murder acceptable.
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Lairen
11/02/21 3:49:55 PM
#64:


Tenlaar posted...
There is no context that makes premeditated vigilante murder acceptable.

Did you read the topic?

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Tenlaar
11/02/21 3:52:56 PM
#65:


Lairen posted...
Did you read the topic?
Yes, thats how I know its a topic about premeditated vigilante murder with a bunch of people gleefully supporting it.
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Lairen
11/02/21 3:54:24 PM
#66:


Tenlaar posted...
Yes, thats how I know its a topic about premeditated vigilante murder with a bunch of people gleefully supporting it.

In this context: yes

Do you have a daughter?

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KingOf7Seas
11/02/21 3:55:19 PM
#68:


I believe it
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Irony
11/02/21 3:55:20 PM
#69:


Stop arguing with the dude that defended Brock Turner lmao

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greyfox747
11/02/21 3:56:02 PM
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Irony posted...
Stop arguing with the dude that defended Brock Turner lmao
Ah
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Tenlaar
11/02/21 3:57:51 PM
#72:


Irony posted...
Stop arguing with the dude that defended Brock Turner lmao
If youre talking about me then this is a blatant, 100% lie you are making up.

And no amount of do you have kids? changes that premeditated vigilante murder is bad and should not be supported.
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Malcrasternus
11/02/21 4:00:33 PM
#74:


He's going to do time for sure. But more than likely a lighter than normal sentence given the circumstances.

Hopefully at least.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/02/21 4:02:01 PM
#75:


Can a self-defense justification really be sustained if the guy was tied up and incapable of presenting any physical harm?

At the very least, he should be charged with removal and concealment of a body, and probably kidnapping charges of his own.

People are way too enthusiastic about vigilantes.
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ThePieReborn
11/02/21 4:03:43 PM
#76:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Can a self-defense justification really be sustained if the guy was tied up and incapable of presenting any physical harm?

At the very least, he should be charged with removal and concealment of a body, and probably kidnapping charges of his own.

People are way too enthusiastic about vigilantes.
Defense of third persons follows the same basic rule as self-defense: the risk of harm has to be imminent and not simply a possibility at some future point in time.

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eston
11/02/21 4:03:57 PM
#77:


Tenlaar posted...
Its always weird to me how many people on this board gleefully endorse vigilante murder.
And if he hadn't killed him they'd all be typing out their little fantasies of what he should have done

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Umbreon
11/02/21 4:05:29 PM
#78:


While vigilantism in general is wrong, it's morally acceptable to want sex traffickers to die.

They're sex traffickers. Fuck em.

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Payzmaykr
11/02/21 4:07:47 PM
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Nice. Request a jury trial and youll never see a day in prison.

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KingOf7Seas
11/02/21 4:07:59 PM
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Seriously why wasn't the police notified about this sex trafficking ring afterwards? And did he only save his daughter? Were there other women there?

This honestly sounds like he just wanted to kill his daughters boyfriend.
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BignutzisBack
11/02/21 4:09:09 PM
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andel
11/02/21 4:10:02 PM
#82:


AP3Brain posted...
That's not how laws work....

sure it can be.

the defense can argue that the father was in constant fear of his daughters safety. obviously that doesn't indicate a rational belief in most cases but he is a trauma victim and very easily could have feared for his daughters continued safety and that kind of defense would be a great chance at jury nullification and give the jury an excuse to let him walk for killing a vile scumbag even when he should be convicted if sticking to the letter of the law.

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E_S_M_Z
11/02/21 4:10:20 PM
#83:


Does anyone really believe this sex trafficker would've just called it a day at 1 girl and moved on to a career as a law-abiding plumber? He was going to do the same to countless vulnerable women.

Vigilantism is a sticky subject, but it's hard to take a stance that gets women sex trafficked.

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Naysaspace
11/02/21 4:12:31 PM
#84:


UnlikedMonkey posted...
The remains were discovered after people began rummaging through the abandoned vehicle.
fucking savages lmao. is this what happens in the states? vagrants and bums just randomly loot vehicles that have been parked for over a day?

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andel
11/02/21 4:14:22 PM
#85:


also fyi tenlaar is the guy that has a meltdown when you refer to sex offenders that rape teenagers as a pedophile. he is apparently against violent reprisals against irredeemable scum but freaks out if you call a child rapist a pedophile

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The X Dawg
11/02/21 4:14:30 PM
#86:


Even if he does go to prison, no one is going to fuck with him out of respect.

But how does a 19-year-old sell someone into sex trafficking? Like, what does he get out of it? Is she not capable of leaving because she is being held against her will? Or is it more mental abuse kind of stuff?
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Rain_Dust
11/02/21 4:15:21 PM
#88:


He's got a certain set of skills.

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Umbreon
11/02/21 4:15:26 PM
#89:


The X Dawg posted...
But how does a 19-year-old sell someone into sex trafficking? Like, what does he get out of it?


Money


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andel
11/02/21 4:17:16 PM
#90:


ThePieReborn posted...
Defense of third persons follows the same basic rule as self-defense: the risk of harm has to be imminent and not simply a possibility at some future point in time.

the state of mind of the accused is considered as well. as long as a judge allows him to enter a defense that he feared for his daughters safety the thought of jury nullification is a strong possibility. the father is infinitely sympathetic while the 'victim' is obviously irredeemable scum

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CyricZ
11/02/21 4:18:52 PM
#91:


Lairen posted...
You are wrong.
I'm actually not, but you're free to try to convince me I am.

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Kloe_Rinz
11/02/21 4:20:25 PM
#92:


If anyone deserves a slap on the wrist or even less than that, its the father.

wtf @ the vehicle though. Who are these random losers looting it and shit?
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Tenlaar
11/02/21 4:22:00 PM
#93:


andel posted...
also fyi tenlaar is the guy that has a meltdown when you refer to sex offenders that rape teenagers as a pedophile. he is apparently against violent reprisals against irredeemable scum but freaks out if you call a child rapist a pedophile
Why do you guys feel the need to make shit up about people instead of talking about the subject at hand? I dont have meltdowns, I just dont go along with it when you guys do it because I know what the word pedophile means and dont use the wrong labels for crimes. Its like calling somebody who sets off a shrapnel bomb an arsonist and then getting super mad about somebody correcting you. Its just the wrong crime.
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andel
11/02/21 4:24:34 PM
#94:


Tenlaar posted...
Why do you guys feel the need to make shit up about people instead of talking about the subject at hand? I dont have meltdowns, I just dont go along with it when you guys do it because I know what the word pedophile means and dont use the wrong labels for crimes. Its like calling somebody who sets off a shrapnel bomb an arsonist and then getting super mad about somebody correcting you. Its just the wrong crime.

pedophile has become associated with adults that rape children. the exact age isn't relevant as language is ever evolving.

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BloodMoon7
11/02/21 4:34:22 PM
#95:


That dude should get a parade instead of jailtime tbh.

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Tenlaar
11/02/21 4:38:04 PM
#96:


andel posted...
pedophile has become associated with adults that rape children.
Only to ignorant people who are more interested in emotional arguments than legal ones.

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AzurexNightmare
11/02/21 4:38:17 PM
#97:


CyricZ posted...
I'm not going to cry for him, but no one deserves the right to do what the father did.
Adding you to my blocked list for writing the dumbest post I've seen all year.

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Super-Mario-Fan
11/02/21 4:42:34 PM
#98:


Father should have just called the cops and have them take care of the ring.

Now the father will be in jail instead of the dead man.

Law doesn't care about morals.

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BloodMoon7
11/02/21 4:45:01 PM
#99:


Super-Mario-Fan posted...
called the cops and have them take care of the ring.

Law doesn't care
*laughs*

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Super-Mario-Fan
11/02/21 4:46:04 PM
#100:


Rain_Dust posted...
He's got a certain set of skills.

Not really. Ambushing someone with a weapon is easy. People underestimate the element of surprise.

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Ving_Rhames
11/02/21 4:47:54 PM
#101:


Fair, next

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