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Bio1590 11/02/21 3:38:19 PM #51: |
I wonder if they'll have hard evidence he actually intended to kill him.
Also if the guy was dead before the dad dumped him back in the car, drove the car out, and dumped the car isn't that also desecration of remains (or whatever it's called)? Seems weird that wouldn't be a charge here. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AP3Brain 11/02/21 3:38:24 PM #52: |
andel posted...
not guilty, he killed the guy in defense of his daughter That's not how laws work.... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Boombam99 11/02/21 3:41:36 PM #54: |
What literally should happen to every sex trafficker
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10InchNails 11/02/21 3:42:22 PM #55: |
Cant morally fault the dad for what he did, but you cant just pardon people who do stuff like this. Hopefully he'll have a light sentence.
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eston 11/02/21 3:43:13 PM #56: |
Bio1590 posted...
I wonder if they'll have hard evidence he actually intended to kill him.He literally bashed his head with a cinder block and stabbed him a bunch of times, then abandoned the vehicle he was tied up inside of What more could they possibly need --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonGrackle 11/02/21 3:43:52 PM #57: |
I don't think the dad should be pardoned and escape all punishment either. He did murder this person, you know, a person who was no direct threat to him or anyone else...
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Tenlaar 11/02/21 3:44:08 PM #58: |
Its always weird to me how many people on this board gleefully endorse vigilante murder.
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WarfireX 11/02/21 3:44:58 PM #59: |
violence like this is never acceptable. 2 wrongs dont make a write.
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Irony 11/02/21 3:46:13 PM #60: |
WarfireX posted...
violence like this is never acceptable. 2 wrongs dont make a write.Tagged --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 11/02/21 3:48:15 PM #62: |
eston posted...
Abandoning the vehicle could be an "oh shit" reaction. A guy I know got stabbed over a dozen times before (and lived) but they couldn't even get the guy that did it on attempted murder (even though it was targeted, over a girl) because proving intent is difficult by design. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 11/02/21 3:49:07 PM #63: |
M_Live posted...
It's about context dude. I won't shed a single tear for a sex trafficker losing their life.There is no context that makes premeditated vigilante murder acceptable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 11/02/21 3:49:55 PM #64: |
Tenlaar posted...
There is no context that makes premeditated vigilante murder acceptable. Did you read the topic? --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 11/02/21 3:52:56 PM #65: |
Lairen posted...
Did you read the topic?Yes, thats how I know its a topic about premeditated vigilante murder with a bunch of people gleefully supporting it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 11/02/21 3:54:24 PM #66: |
Tenlaar posted...
Yes, thats how I know its a topic about premeditated vigilante murder with a bunch of people gleefully supporting it. In this context: yes Do you have a daughter? --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingOf7Seas 11/02/21 3:55:19 PM #68: |
I believe it
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Irony 11/02/21 3:55:20 PM #69: |
Stop arguing with the dude that defended Brock Turner lmao
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greyfox747 11/02/21 3:56:02 PM #70: |
Irony posted...
Stop arguing with the dude that defended Brock Turner lmaoAh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 11/02/21 3:57:51 PM #72: |
Irony posted...
Stop arguing with the dude that defended Brock Turner lmaoIf youre talking about me then this is a blatant, 100% lie you are making up. And no amount of do you have kids? changes that premeditated vigilante murder is bad and should not be supported. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcrasternus 11/02/21 4:00:33 PM #74: |
He's going to do time for sure. But more than likely a lighter than normal sentence given the circumstances.
Hopefully at least. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 11/02/21 4:02:01 PM #75: |
Can a self-defense justification really be sustained if the guy was tied up and incapable of presenting any physical harm?
At the very least, he should be charged with removal and concealment of a body, and probably kidnapping charges of his own. People are way too enthusiastic about vigilantes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 11/02/21 4:03:43 PM #76: |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Can a self-defense justification really be sustained if the guy was tied up and incapable of presenting any physical harm?Defense of third persons follows the same basic rule as self-defense: the risk of harm has to be imminent and not simply a possibility at some future point in time. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 11/02/21 4:03:57 PM #77: |
Tenlaar posted...
Its always weird to me how many people on this board gleefully endorse vigilante murder.And if he hadn't killed him they'd all be typing out their little fantasies of what he should have done --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 11/02/21 4:05:29 PM #78: |
While vigilantism in general is wrong, it's morally acceptable to want sex traffickers to die.
They're sex traffickers. Fuck em. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 11/02/21 4:07:47 PM #79: |
Nice. Request a jury trial and youll never see a day in prison.
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KingOf7Seas 11/02/21 4:07:59 PM #80: |
Seriously why wasn't the police notified about this sex trafficking ring afterwards? And did he only save his daughter? Were there other women there?
This honestly sounds like he just wanted to kill his daughters boyfriend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 11/02/21 4:09:09 PM #81: |
Minimum of 15 years
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andel 11/02/21 4:10:02 PM #82: |
AP3Brain posted...
That's not how laws work.... sure it can be. the defense can argue that the father was in constant fear of his daughters safety. obviously that doesn't indicate a rational belief in most cases but he is a trauma victim and very easily could have feared for his daughters continued safety and that kind of defense would be a great chance at jury nullification and give the jury an excuse to let him walk for killing a vile scumbag even when he should be convicted if sticking to the letter of the law. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E_S_M_Z 11/02/21 4:10:20 PM #83: |
Does anyone really believe this sex trafficker would've just called it a day at 1 girl and moved on to a career as a law-abiding plumber? He was going to do the same to countless vulnerable women.
Vigilantism is a sticky subject, but it's hard to take a stance that gets women sex trafficked. --- Join the club. Be part of the exclusive group called whoever, at: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1482- ()xxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Naysaspace 11/02/21 4:12:31 PM #84: |
UnlikedMonkey posted...
The remains were discovered after people began rummaging through the abandoned vehicle.fucking savages lmao. is this what happens in the states? vagrants and bums just randomly loot vehicles that have been parked for over a day? --- #BladeGang ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 11/02/21 4:14:22 PM #85: |
also fyi tenlaar is the guy that has a meltdown when you refer to sex offenders that rape teenagers as a pedophile. he is apparently against violent reprisals against irredeemable scum but freaks out if you call a child rapist a pedophile
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The X Dawg 11/02/21 4:14:30 PM #86: |
Even if he does go to prison, no one is going to fuck with him out of respect.
But how does a 19-year-old sell someone into sex trafficking? Like, what does he get out of it? Is she not capable of leaving because she is being held against her will? Or is it more mental abuse kind of stuff? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rain_Dust 11/02/21 4:15:21 PM #88: |
He's got a certain set of skills.
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Umbreon 11/02/21 4:15:26 PM #89: |
The X Dawg posted...
But how does a 19-year-old sell someone into sex trafficking? Like, what does he get out of it? Money --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 11/02/21 4:17:16 PM #90: |
ThePieReborn posted...
Defense of third persons follows the same basic rule as self-defense: the risk of harm has to be imminent and not simply a possibility at some future point in time. the state of mind of the accused is considered as well. as long as a judge allows him to enter a defense that he feared for his daughters safety the thought of jury nullification is a strong possibility. the father is infinitely sympathetic while the 'victim' is obviously irredeemable scum --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/02/21 4:18:52 PM #91: |
Lairen posted...
You are wrong.I'm actually not, but you're free to try to convince me I am. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 11/02/21 4:20:25 PM #92: |
If anyone deserves a slap on the wrist or even less than that, its the father.
wtf @ the vehicle though. Who are these random losers looting it and shit? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 11/02/21 4:22:00 PM #93: |
andel posted...
also fyi tenlaar is the guy that has a meltdown when you refer to sex offenders that rape teenagers as a pedophile. he is apparently against violent reprisals against irredeemable scum but freaks out if you call a child rapist a pedophileWhy do you guys feel the need to make shit up about people instead of talking about the subject at hand? I dont have meltdowns, I just dont go along with it when you guys do it because I know what the word pedophile means and dont use the wrong labels for crimes. Its like calling somebody who sets off a shrapnel bomb an arsonist and then getting super mad about somebody correcting you. Its just the wrong crime. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 11/02/21 4:24:34 PM #94: |
Tenlaar posted...
Why do you guys feel the need to make shit up about people instead of talking about the subject at hand? I dont have meltdowns, I just dont go along with it when you guys do it because I know what the word pedophile means and dont use the wrong labels for crimes. Its like calling somebody who sets off a shrapnel bomb an arsonist and then getting super mad about somebody correcting you. Its just the wrong crime. pedophile has become associated with adults that rape children. the exact age isn't relevant as language is ever evolving. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BloodMoon7 11/02/21 4:34:22 PM #95: |
That dude should get a parade instead of jailtime tbh.
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Tenlaar 11/02/21 4:38:04 PM #96: |
andel posted...
pedophile has become associated with adults that rape children.Only to ignorant people who are more interested in emotional arguments than legal ones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzurexNightmare 11/02/21 4:38:17 PM #97: |
CyricZ posted...
I'm not going to cry for him, but no one deserves the right to do what the father did.Adding you to my blocked list for writing the dumbest post I've seen all year. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Super-Mario-Fan 11/02/21 4:42:34 PM #98: |
Father should have just called the cops and have them take care of the ring.
Now the father will be in jail instead of the dead man. Law doesn't care about morals. --- Proud atheist. Currently playing: Mario Golf Super Rush, Mario Party Superstars ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BloodMoon7 11/02/21 4:45:01 PM #99: |
Super-Mario-Fan posted...
called the cops and have them take care of the ring.*laughs* --- My maid will destroy humanity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Super-Mario-Fan 11/02/21 4:46:04 PM #100: |
Rain_Dust posted...
He's got a certain set of skills. Not really. Ambushing someone with a weapon is easy. People underestimate the element of surprise. --- Proud atheist. Currently playing: Mario Golf Super Rush, Mario Party Superstars ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 11/02/21 4:47:54 PM #101: |
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