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started watching my calories recently, i want to become thin and fit and i figure shedding some pounds is a necessary step

but to lose weight at any speed you basically have to eat nothing. like you are allowed one meal a day and then after that meal you can have a very small desert and thats it.
you can lose weight while eating more, but the process is slowed right the hell down so you may as well not even be losing weight

why is maintaining a healthy body such a pain in the ass. why cant i just ingest food and shit it out without storing it as fat

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I do 16/8 fast and I definitely eat two meals a day without issue. I've went from 375 to 321 pounds since April.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I do 16/8 fast and I definitely eat two meals a day without issue. I've went from 375 to 321 pounds since April.

if i ate 2 meals a day i wouldnt be allowed junk food. or i could have 2 meals and some junk food, and either lose almost no weight or actually have to exercise. but i want to lose weight before starting to exercise

make permanent changes instead of dieting

even just light exercise 2-3 times a week and not eating garbage all the time will pull you down to a healthy weight

im over 300 pounds for reference, so its not a good idea for me to go jogging and stuff like that yet

You just admitted to eating junk food while trying to lose weight?

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yeah. isnt it just about calories? like i can eat junk food so long as the calories i consume are less than the calories i burn.

some websites i checked say i burn roughly 3000 calories a day just existing, without exercising. so if i have one meal a day and its like 1000 calories, thats another 1999 calories i can have and still be losing weight technically

im trying to stick to 2000 calories

eat 0 calories one day and 3000 the next

average out to 1500 ezpz

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If running's no go, how about a rowing machine? Heard those work well for cardio.

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Eating one meal a day and a desert is not remotely a good idea.

Try to find a small handful of dishes that you like that are 500 calories or less and stick to three of them a day. Loads of lean cuisines exist and ramen or soup meals as well that can fit that camp. Some lean steaks and potatoes as well. Eat carrots and cucumbers for filler. Have an apple a day for a midday snack. Dont eat after dinner and before breakfast.

Youll have initial hunger pangs while your body adjusts and then youll get used to it.

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As someone who's lost fifty pounds this year, just cut out junk food. Just don't buy it. It's not worth it. Like I really like these honey buns you can get for like 25 cents a piece at a local store, but they're legitimately 600 calories a piece. That can be a decent meal.

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just accept being fat and enjoy the foods you like.


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just eat healthy like a normal human being and do some exercise. It's not rocket science.

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I weighted like 220 pounds at one time, mainly from junkfood / unhealthy food.

Started eating potatoes with vegetables and meat/fish/poultry and working out and lost a fuckton of weight in 3 months.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

just eat healthy like a normal human being and do some exercise. It's not rocket science.

i didnt say it was rocket science. i said it sucks

I'm losing reasonable weight while eating what I consider reasonable amounts. I have 2 - 3 meals a day and maybe some extra, a mars bar or some yogart. It doesn't go down in a straight line, sometimes it goes up, but the overall trend is down and it helps on days where I'm more active. I work part time in physical work. On days I'm at work I do better with weight loss. I try to take walks on days I don't work, but don't always get to it. I've lost 20 kilos since April doing it this way.

I think a key is learning to have smaller meals, then you can eat more in the day to compensate.

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Flockaveli posted...

You just admitted to eating junk food while trying to lose weight?

This. Junk food needs to go, sorry.

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Your mentality towards this needs to change before you'll get the results that you want. 300-250 you can probably fuck around and eat some junk tbh but you'll never establish good eating habits so you'll probably just balloon back up once you ease up on your diet. Your habits until this point are what got you here. You'll just fall back on them unless you commit to some actual changes.

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Cutting out bad snacks helps a lot. My go to snack is popcorn with only a tiny bit of topping.

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a bag of microwave popcorn is like 500 calories roughly :/
i can only eat 4-6 of those a day max

With a proper plant-based diet (whole foods > processed foods) you can eat an unlimited amount of food and still lose weight. No worrying about calories at all.

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bulletproofvita posted...

This. Junk food needs to go, sorry.

Yeah its not just about calories, trying to loose. weight while eating fatty junk food is a stupid idea.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

a bag of microwave popcorn is like 500 calories roughly :/
i can only eat 4-6 of those a day max

... do you need to eat more?

Like, I will go over my normal daily eats.

Meal 1 - 4 egg sandwich, cottage cheese, apple.

Meal 2 - Usually a big salad, kinda like a chicken ceasar salad just with no ceasar dressing (I use a lemon poppyseed vinagrette instead), and add in some pumpkin seeds.

For snacks usually it is a big bag of calorie-wise popcorn throughout the day, roughly 600 calories for it. I also snack on almonds.

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I eat out and drink everyday and still lose weight, its not hard

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https://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/bmr

And find out what your BMR is. That is basically how many calories you... existing... burns. Ideally you go into caloric deficit in order to lose weight, or you work out enough to make up the difference in what you're going above that.

My basal is around 2700 calories. I go into deficit because I'm kinda lazy. I would think I eat maybe around 1800-2000 calories in a day? On a bad day maybe around 2600?

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

but to lose weight at any speed you basically have to eat nothing. like you are allowed one meal a day and then after that meal you can have a very small desert and thats it.

That doesn't sound healthy to me. Eating regular healthy meals with moderate portions and exercise is a better idea than starvation style diets.


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Ohhh, and drink water. First change to make. It is absurd how many calories and sugar are in soda. It is an easy change to make after you do it for awhile, Water can help with making you feel full, and it is critical to healthy habits.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

im over 300 pounds for reference, so its not a good idea for me to go jogging and stuff like that yet

Are you able to take short walks?

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Yeah I think Im doomed to never be a good weight or shape. Not to make light of legitimate eating disorders, but I think I have an eating almost-disorder. I just dont like a lot of foods and I cant just suck it up and eat food I dont like lol either.

I workout, but because of past injuries, I cant do like real good hard workouts, so I dont think Im really able to keep up with what I eat.

It would be awesome if I could even get away with starving myself, but, nope. I get hangry. And I cant sleep well if Im starving, which makes me tired, which makes me even more pissy.

So, I definitely feel your pain.

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Webbernet posted...

Are you able to take short walks?

yeah. im not like bedridden or anything, i go to work and stuff. i just sit in an office all day

If you're 300 pounds, you'll burn plenty of calories just plain ol' walking.

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rexcrk posted...

I just dont like a lot of foods and I cant just suck it up and eat food I dont like lol either.

i thought the same way. some foods just make me gag, whether its the taste or texture. i have to stick with stuff im accostomed to. i thought i was just immature or something but i looked it up and apparently it actually is a disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant/restrictive_food_intake_disorder

although maybe its one of those fake disorders like affluenza

either way i think thats what i got

Kloe_Rinz posted...

yeah. im not like bedridden or anything, i go to work and stuff. i just sit in an office all day

Add a short walk to your schedule when you get home or just before work... It'll help heaps trust me.

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smh

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I've lost 23kg (50 pounds) since April

How I've done it is just making sure I burn atleast 1000 calories more than I eat a day. 7000 - 8000 burnt is 1 kg (2.2 pounds) lost and as long as I don't go over that threshold I can still eat whatever the hell I want. Junk food included

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The 3500 calorie per pound rule does not work.

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The calories out -> calories in trick, while true, can get much more complicated when taking into account body types, genetics, and lifestyle.

Your daily caloric intake comes from three primary macros: carbs, fats, and proteins.

For example, if you are at a calorie deficit every day, but all those calories come from carbs, then that's going to limit your weight loss going forward. This is especially true for refined carbs (like white bread and overly-processed foods), as they are quick release and can result in bloating and weight ballooning.

Fats are also problematic, and can be found in most foods. You do want some fats in your diet, but too many will also hamper weight loss abilities.

It is a much better idea to fill your daily caloric intake with protein. It's much harder than it sounds. This is because unless you are eating straight meat for all your meals, most foods with high proteins also have either higher carbs or higher fats. It's typically a math game. I've found that chicken salads, tuna sandwiches, and the occasional egg sandwiches tend to provide a good balance of carbs, proteins, and fats.

The other issue is muscle development. The strength and mass of your muscles determines your metabolic rate, or how fast your burn calories. The less developed your muscles are, the slower your metabolism for burning calories. So the less you work out, the less calories your body burns in a day. Cardio helps burn more calories in a given day, but strength training provides you more muscles to increase your calorie burn. While cardio helps you with short-term weight loss, strength training helps you with more longer-term weight loss. Without strength training, you might find that you have to eat less and less over time to continue to keep the same level of weight loss.

I've also personally found that those online calorie burning calculators tend to overestimate your daily caloric expenditures. It's really hard to get a good, accurate measurement from a free online app so I tend to remove about 200-300 calories from them just to be safe.

TL:DR If you want to improve your weight loss changes, calorie counting is a good start, but work on increasing your daily protein intake (>100g is best, but even over 50g will show you results), reduce your daily carb and fat intake, and try to have at least some physical activity consisting of both some light cardio and mild strength training to give your body more of a boost.

Yes, it's harder than it sounds, but you can take it one step at a time and implement each aspect over time.

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I lost 18 pounds in a month eating about one meal a day

Zanzenburger posted...

The calories out -> calories in trick, while true, can get much more complicated when taking into account body types, genetics, and lifestyle.

Your daily caloric intake comes from three primary macros: carbs, fats, and proteins.

For example, if you are at a calorie deficit every day, but all those calories come from carbs, then that's going to limit your weight loss going forward. This is especially true for refined carbs (like white bread and overly-processed foods), as they are quick release and can result in bloating and weight ballooning.

Fats are also problematic, and can be found in most foods. You do want some fats in your diet, but too many will also hamper weight loss abilities.

It is a much better idea to fill your daily caloric intake with protein. It's much harder than it sounds. This is because unless you are eating straight meat for all your meals, most foods with high proteins also have either higher carbs or higher fats. It's typically a math game. I've found that chicken salads, tuna sandwiches, and the occasional egg sandwiches tend to provide a good balance of carbs, proteins, and fats.

The other issue is muscle development. The strength and mass of your muscles determines your metabolic rate, or how fast your burn calories. The less developed your muscles are, the slower your metabolism for burning calories. So the less you work out, the less calories your body burns in a day. Cardio helps burn more calories in a given day, but strength training provides you more muscles to increase your calorie burn. While cardio helps you with short-term weight loss, strength training helps you with more longer-term weight loss. Without strength training, you might find that you have to eat less and less over time to continue to keep the same level of weight loss.

I've also personally found that those online calorie burning calculators tend to overestimate your daily caloric expenditures. It's really hard to get a good, accurate measurement from a free online app so I tend to remove about 200-300 calories from them just to be safe.

TL:DR If you want to improve your weight loss changes, calorie counting is a good start, but work on increasing your daily protein intake (>100g is best, but even over 50g will show you results), reduce your daily carb and fat intake, and try to have at least some physical activity consisting of both some light cardio and mild strength training to give your body more of a boost.

Yes, it's harder than it sounds, but you can take it one step at a time and implement each aspect over time.

Losing weight is fashionable, and I'm not sure how scientific fast fashion is

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Eggs, oatmeal, bananas, a little beef, carrots, peas, broccoli, maybe some cheese.

Watch your calorie count while eating these types of foods. And youll lose weight. Some side affects might be you feel hungry still. Forget about. You had eaten already.

If you can walk up down stairs. Do that. Or heck even light walks everyday. Walk a block to start. If you feel like more. Do that.

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Zanzenburger posted...

The calories out -> calories in trick, while true, can get much more complicated when taking into account body types, genetics, and lifestyle.

Your daily caloric intake comes from three primary macros: carbs, fats, and proteins.

For example, if you are at a calorie deficit every day, but all those calories come from carbs, then that's going to limit your weight loss going forward. This is especially true for refined carbs (like white bread and overly-processed foods), as they are quick release and can result in bloating and weight ballooning.

Fats are also problematic, and can be found in most foods. You do want some fats in your diet, but too many will also hamper weight loss abilities.

It is a much better idea to fill your daily caloric intake with protein. It's much harder than it sounds. This is because unless you are eating straight meat for all your meals, most foods with high proteins also have either higher carbs or higher fats. It's typically a math game. I've found that chicken salads, tuna sandwiches, and the occasional egg sandwiches tend to provide a good balance of carbs, proteins, and fats.

The other issue is muscle development. The strength and mass of your muscles determines your metabolic rate, or how fast your burn calories. The less developed your muscles are, the slower your metabolism for burning calories. So the less you work out, the less calories your body burns in a day. Cardio helps burn more calories in a given day, but strength training provides you more muscles to increase your calorie burn. While cardio helps you with short-term weight loss, strength training helps you with more longer-term weight loss. Without strength training, you might find that you have to eat less and less over time to continue to keep the same level of weight loss.

I've also personally found that those online calorie burning calculators tend to overestimate your daily caloric expenditures. It's really hard to get a good, accurate measurement from a free online app so I tend to remove about 200-300 calories from them just to be safe.

TL:DR If you want to improve your weight loss changes, calorie counting is a good start, but work on increasing your daily protein intake (>100g is best, but even over 50g will show you results), reduce your daily carb and fat intake, and try to have at least some physical activity consisting of both some light cardio and mild strength training to give your body more of a boost.

Yes, it's harder than it sounds, but you can take it one step at a time and implement each aspect over time.

I forgot to add in one more fact relating to sodium.

Most Americans eat waaaaay too much sodium (can't speak for other countries) because just about everything not made at home from scratch is packed with it. Sodium retains water, so eating too much of it causes you to retain more water weight and become more bloated. This makes it much harder to lose weight.

One thing you can try is measuring your daily sodium intake for a week. Your daily intake should be about 2200mg. Most Americans eat well over 3000mg a day. Just look at the sodium content in just about anything you eat. Most packaged or processed foods have a ton. That could be a good first step if you want to lose some immediate water weight. Drop your sodium to the daily recommended level and see how much healthier it automatically makes you eat.

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Keto makes it so easy

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I dropped from about 350 to 180 over about a year and a half. While I definitely don't recommend dropping that fast (I ended up looking fairly emaciated and lost a lot of muscle in the process, that I'm still working to build back up), I can recommend a few things.

The first step that helped me was finding high volume, low calorie foods.

You mentioned popcorn. Try Reddennacher's Smart Pop popcorn. MUCH less calorie dense than others, so you can enjoy more for less. Obviously cutting down would help, but if you must eat it an alternative helps.

For breakfasts, I adopted high-protein smoothies. My go-to is:

~300g of frozen strawberries (~100 calories)
1/2 cup of lowfat Greek yogurt (~80 calories)
A scoop or two of your chocolate protein powder of choice (150-300 calories)
A bit of sweetener, if you need
1/2 teaspoon of xantham gum (thickening agent).

Throw all that in a blender. Tastes like a good ice cream, very large serving, and a solid mix of carbs and protein. Will fill you up and sit in your belly like a rock for hours, too.

Also, if you haven't yet. cut sugary drinks. Juice, soda, w/e. An alternative I used to wean myself off of it was the liter bottles of flavored carbonated water that you can get super cheap from just about anywhere. Again, going straight to just water is better, but these can be a solid half-step.

Again, just a couple things that worked for me. YMMV

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Thought this topic was gonna be about how losing a shit ton of weight makes your nude body look like a melting candle

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Be careful with eating too little. If I remember right, if you get less than 1200 calories per day, your body can go into starvation mode and your metabolism slows down, making it easier to gain weight. That was a trap that I fell into awhile ago.

MrAntisocial posted...

Be careful with eating too little. If I remember right, if you get less than 1200 calories per day, your body can go into starvation mode and your metabolism slows down, making it easier to gain weight. That was a trap that I fell into awhile ago.

This is a myth. Starvation mode is not real.

Yes your metabolism can slow down after a strict calorie deficit, but the difference is almost none existent in the long term unless you are a body builder aiming for 6% body fat.

Losing weight is hard, it gets harder the more you lose because the amount you need to maintain weight gets smaller. Has nothing to do with metabolism and is just a fact of life.

No need to make it harder for other people by spreading misnomers.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

im over 300 pounds for reference, so its not a good idea for me to go jogging and stuff like that yet

Don't go jogging then, just start with a slow walk. If you build it up bit by bit everyday, eventually you'll be able to run miles.

You can eat as many times a day as you always have. Just cut portions and dont eat shit you know is bad for you.

Not hard just takes discipline. No shortcuts.

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