Poll of the Day > Joy Reid says Gabby Petito is MISSING WHITE WOMAN SYNDROME. Do you agree???

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mrduckbear
09/21/21 7:03:45 PM
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Do you agree with Joy? If Gabby was a person of colour would the media not give round the clock coverage over this?


The disappearance and now murder of 22 y/o "van-life" girl, Gabby Petito that has shocked the country was SLAMMED by MSNBC's Joy Reid who said it was clear cut case of "missing white woman syndrome"

She said "It goes wthout saying that no family should ever have to endure that kind of pain. But the way this story has captivated the nation has many wondering, why not the same media attention when people of colour go missing?. Well the answer actually has a name. Missing white woman syndrome."

She credited the term to journalist Gwen Hill who said the phenomenom outlines the media and public fascination with missing white women such as Laci Peterson or Natalie Holloway while ignoring causes involving missing people of colour.

Reid brought up missing causes of other people of colour and has never heard of them until her guests tell her about them but one of the reasons why people won't bring up why the media doesnt' care is because of racism where they are seen as runaways, criminals or poor and have no value to the news story.

This also comes as Governor Ron DeSantis has ordered ALL state agencies to assist in the search of her boyfriend and suspect Brian Laundrie as FBI and local police have deployed ATVs, drones to a snake and alligator swampland in the hunt to find him since he's been missing and had refused to speak to the police 5 days ago..

Thousands of law enforcement agencies and members of the public are on the hunt for the 23 y/o as the Governor said they will NOT stop the search until he is found when he was last seen with his parents on September 14th.

Gabby's father, Joseph said his daughter has "touched the world" after people know about her story and posted a picture of her with angel wings.

Fox News has given round the clock coverage of her disappearance and was the first to make it a focus of their news story over the last week

Is Joy right? Would the media not be as focused on this story had she been a person of colour?

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faramir77
09/21/21 7:09:43 PM
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To an extent, yeah. It also has to with the fact that she was good looking, had a considerable social media presence, and that it was extremely obvious that her fiance murdered her. The media likes an easy, predictable controversy.

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Zeus
09/21/21 7:29:53 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
MSNBC's Joy Reid

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If she was shot by a cop, there'd be far more attention than this.

mrduckbear posted...
Is Joy right? Would the media not be as focused on this story had she been a person of colour?

Tens of thousands of white women go missing every year to the sound of crickets, probably a lot more than that. However, if you believed foaming-at-the-mouth racists like Joy Reid, only one white woman goes missing every several years.

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Zeus
09/21/21 7:38:22 PM
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faramir77 posted...
To an extent, yeah. It also has to with the fact that she was good looking, had a considerable social media presence, and that it was extremely obvious that her fiance murdered her. The media likes an easy, predictable controversy.

And let's be honest here -- there would have been almost no investigation if it wasn't being driven by social media.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/573248-how-amateur-detectives-on-social-media-helped-crack-the

https://apnews.com/article/gabby-petito-social-media-tiktok-investigation-d2e9a5d627c2f39b5633174239c3beaf

Not that racist "journalist" Joy Reid would acknowledge anything like that, nor would any of MSNBC's other "journalists"

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LinkPizza
09/21/21 7:42:26 PM
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Zeus posted...
Tens of thousands of white women go missing every year to the sound of crickets, probably a lot more than that. However, if you believed foaming-at-the-mouth racists like Joy Reid, only one white woman goes missing every several years.

No. I don't think that's exactly it. People of all genders, races, etc go missing every year. But it is true that most of the time, it is usually caucasian female that will get more news coverage like this compared to females of other races... I use to watch the news every morning at work for years, and it is true... I don't think I've seen coverage of many people of color, if any, or to this extent. But I saw coverage of caucasian females pretty often... It wasn't everyday or anything. But often enough...
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OhhhJa
09/21/21 7:43:14 PM
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A young girl's body is found... only a complete piece of garbage would use that to complain about white people
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 8:07:36 PM
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Unfortunately, she's correct. You need only look at the lack of coverage of the horrific rates of abductions, rapes, and murders committed against indigenous american women, the majority of which are committed by non-indigenous perpetrators.

The lack of coverage for missing POC often results in their cases going unaddressed and cold because authorities often don't give a shit.
https://www.ncai.org/policy-research-center/research-data/prc-publications/VAWA_Data_Brief__FINAL_2_1_2018.pdf
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/15/667335392/police-in-many-u-s-cities-fail-to-track-murdered-missing-indigenous-women

OhhhJa posted...
A young girl's body is found... only a complete piece of garbage would use that to complain about white people
The point is that we should give more coverage to cases that are often overlooked for racist reasons. But by all means, get triggered over the name of the phenomenon instead of engaging with actual substance like a normal human being.
Also, don't infantilize the victim. Gross.

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 8:10:14 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
The point is that we should give more coverage to cases that are often overlooked for racist reasons. But by all means, get triggered over the name of the phenomenon instead of engaging with actual substance like a normal human being.
Also, don't infantilize the victim. Gross.
The people triggered are the ones who are mad that people cared about a missing girl and made it all about race
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 8:13:22 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
The people triggered are the ones who are mad that people cared about a missing girl and made it all about race
Okay. When was the last time you saw a news story like this about an indigenous woman, then?
I want a name that you didn't have to google.
https://www.ncai.org/policy-research-center/research-data/prc-publications/VAWA_Data_Brief__FINAL_2_1_2018.pdf
Indigenous women are murdered at roughly 10 times the rate of white women. Do they get ten times the coverage? One tenth the coverage? One one-hundredth the coverage? Come on... You know this is an issue. You know she's correct. You just don't want it talked about, instead you'd rather whine about how uncouth it is that someone dares to mention it when a case that's getting disproportionate coverage comes up.

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https://www.insider.com/710-indigenous-people-missing-in-wyoming-where-gabby-petito-disappeared-2021-9
How much coverage did these people get? Facts don't care about your feelings, bro.

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Lokarin
09/21/21 8:27:36 PM
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I don't know who Gabby Petito or Brain Laundrie are... only that the news is obsessed with them

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PK_Spam
09/21/21 8:28:30 PM
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Family guy made this joke over a decade ago and we all knew this even back then lol

https://youtu.be/OslRkUJgE0A

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PK_Spam
09/21/21 8:33:15 PM
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Duckys final links are always like a giant kick to the face lol

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captpackrat
09/21/21 8:47:32 PM
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 9:09:05 PM
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Wow do you guys mean to tell me that in a country that overwhelmingly white that white people get more coverage... no way
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helIy
09/21/21 9:15:06 PM
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ohja being racist as hell?

oh boy lemme grab the popcorn

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 9:23:02 PM
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helIy posted...
ohja being racist as hell?

oh boy lemme grab the popcorn
I'm not the one bitching about the fact that people cared about this white girl and saying it's only because she's white. As a parent, I can only imagine how her parents feel reading people talking about white girl syndrome after their little girl was killed
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LinkPizza
09/21/21 9:27:50 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Wow do you guys mean to tell me that in a country that overwhelmingly white that white people get more coverage... no way

I think that would work more if the percentages were about equal. But it's not that I just see more white women missing in the news than non-white women. It's that I almost never see the non-white women in the news. If it was like 6 white women to 4 non-white women or something, that would be different...

OhhhJa posted...
I'm not the one bitching about the fact that people cared about this white girl

I don't think many people are bitching about the fact that people cared about the white girl. People are bitching about the fact that nobody seems to care about the non-white ones...
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 9:29:17 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I'm not the one bitching about the fact that people cared about this white girl and saying it's only because she's white. As a parent, I can only imagine how her parents feel reading people talking about white girl syndrome after their little girl was killed
Stop infantilizing the victim.

And I'm still waiting on you to name an indigenous abduction/murder victim without googling one. The fact that you didn't immediately clap back with multiple examples is, I think, enough to prove the point.

Clutch your triggered pearls harder. No one gives a shit about your whining about civility when we're talking about thousands of dead and missing people that media ignores.

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helIy
09/21/21 9:32:03 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I'm not the one bitching about the fact that people cared about this white girl and saying it's only because she's white. As a parent, I can only imagine how her parents feel reading people talking about white girl syndrome after their little girl was killed

lol

you're angry as fuck that someone pointed missing white girl syndrome out and, as a result, you keep saying super racist things to try and justify it




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OhhhJa
09/21/21 9:40:38 PM
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helIy posted...
lol

you're angry as fuck that someone pointed missing white girl syndrome out and, as a result, you keep saying super racist things to try and justify it

Oh no, some obese cave dweller from a flyover state thinks I'm racist. Whatever shall I do
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OhhhJa
09/21/21 9:41:23 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
Stop infantilizing the victim.

And I'm still waiting on you to name an indigenous abduction/murder victim without googling one. The fact that you didn't immediately clap back with multiple examples is, I think, enough to prove the point.

Clutch your triggered pearls harder. No one gives a shit about your whining about civility when we're talking about thousands of dead and missing people that media ignores.
You clearly aren't a parent and probably never will be or should be
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 9:44:34 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
You clearly aren't a parent and probably never will be or should be
Lol, you can't make a relevant argument to save your life.

You are right about one thing, though you didn't say it outright. I'm not like you. I don't frame everything in the world I see in terms of how it relates to me.

Edit: Though if I were to do so, I would hope that if my mother, or my sisters, or I were murdered, that some loser on the internet wouldn't call me a little girl in order to pearl clutch on the internet about how bad it is of people to point out that mudered people of color deserve media coverage, too.

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helIy
09/21/21 9:46:48 PM
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so predictable

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Decoy77
09/21/21 9:47:03 PM
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Exhibit A George Floyd ...yep they NEVER EVER EVER give around the clock coverage to a minority...nope never has happened ever.

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LinkPizza
09/21/21 9:50:40 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Exhibit A George Floyd ...yep they NEVER EVER EVER give around the clock coverage to a minority...nope never has happened ever.

He wasn't missing, though... The article was talking about missing people of colour...

mrduckbear posted...
But the way this story has captivated the nation has many wondering, why not the same media attention when people of colour go missing?

mrduckbear posted...
while ignoring causes involving missing people of colour.

mrduckbear posted...
missing causes of other people of colour

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helIy
09/21/21 9:51:30 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Exhibit A George Floyd ...yep they NEVER EVER EVER give around the clock coverage to a minority...nope never has happened ever.
this didn't really help your argument much, considering that it took a bunch of video evidence and riots for the media to care about it since he wasn't a while person

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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 9:53:45 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
Exhibit A George Floyd ...yep they NEVER EVER EVER give around the clock coverage to a minority...nope never has happened ever.
Apples to oranges. This is a red herring. We're talking about missing and murdered POC not being covered by media which allows their cases to go unsolved, not
police brutality (which is usually also swept under the rug 99/100 times
as well). Though it turns out that with enough outcry, running footage of an agent of the state slowly suffocating a person for almost 9 minutes makes for an easy story.

Decoy, explain to me why it is that indigenous women are murdered at 10 times the rate of white women, but they do not get even 1/10 the media coverage, without invoking racism.

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 10:33:27 PM
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helIy posted...
this didn't really help your argument much, considering that it took a bunch of video evidence and riots for the media to care about it since he wasn't a while person
What? It had massive coverage as soon as the video surfaced which was almost immediately. The riots were a result of that footage

Gaawa_chan posted...
Apples to oranges

"Your situation doesn't suit my narrative"

Gaawa_chan posted...
Decoy, explain to me why it is that indigenous women are murdered at 10 times the rate of white women

Probably has to do with the fact that our government/media/population tries to pretend they don't even exist in the first place
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LinkPizza
09/21/21 10:35:11 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
What? It had massive coverage as soon as the video surfaced which was almost immediately. The riots were a result of that footage

Either way, it doesn't help the argument since the argument was about missing people, and he wasn't missing...
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 10:40:51 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
"Your situation doesn't suit my narrative"
Did I miss the part of that story where George Floyd was abducted and went missing?

Do you believe it is appropriate and not racist that the 710 missing indigenous people in Wyoming have likely collectively had less media coverage than this one case or not?

Probably has to do with the fact that our government/media/population tries to pretend they don't even exist in the first place
And why is that?

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 10:42:30 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
some loser on the internet wouldn't call me a little girl
Wow you big mad huh. I'm not saying she's a little girl. I'm saying parents never stop viewing their kids as their children even when their grown. But if you aren't a parent you wouldn't understand that idea of protection over your children. Like you really seem to fail at understanding human interaction lol
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OhhhJa
09/21/21 10:43:37 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
And why is that?
How much have you done for native americans? It's something we're all guilty of. Everyone of us for letting it continue to happen
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 10:48:58 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Wow you big mad huh. I'm not saying she's a little girl. I'm saying parents never stop viewing their kids as their children even when their grown. But if you aren't a parent you wouldn't understand that idea of protection over your children. Like you really seem to fail at understanding human interaction lol
Dude. I know it's really, REALLY hard for you to understand the point people are trying to make at you, but I'll give it another go.

It is really fucking gross that you project your feelings for your children onto this murdered woman even as you argue that the lack of media coverage about the abductions and murders of hundreds of women of color is not something we should be discussing.

You will, on one hand, stan this story getting all of this coverage because it makes you oh so sad because "I HAVE A BABY WAAAAAH." Okay? Why don't you feel that way about the 710 missing indigenous people then? Why is this one story oh so special and emotional for you but none of these uncovered stories matter? Do you want them to be treated like they matter or not?

You, your OWN ATTITUDE, is proof positive that abducted and missing POC NEED more media coverage, because if they got more, it might help you with your inability to take the plights of people who are different than you seriously.

OhhhJa posted...
How much have you done for native americans? It's something we're all guilty of. Everyone of us for letting it continue to happen
Actually, no. A lot of us are fighting it. You're clearly not, though, to the point where you're insisting that we don't even talk about it for fear of offending white people.

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JixHedgehog
09/21/21 10:50:50 PM
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Joy Reid has taken a blow to the head a few too many times.

Republicans love getting the Vid followed by an ivermectin chaser

Smh

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LinkPizza
09/21/21 10:53:02 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
But if you aren't a parent you wouldn't understand that idea of protection over your children.

You keep mentioning being a parent, but I don't think that really has any relevance, does it? People still want to protect their family, friends, and loved ones regardless of their connection to them. I don't think being a parent gives you some secret insight to this case or whatever. But you're making is sound like the rest of us without children can't understand, which isn't really correct... I mean, I even have a little sister who, even though she's an adult who just started college, I still see her as my little sister who was just starting school. Especially since I left for the Air Force when she was like 6, and only saw her sporadically when I came home to visit, or when my family has pictures to post or send.

Also, something I saw somewhere else about this case says stuff like, "While it's not the best time to mention it, she's right." and stuff like that. And they're right. While Joy is right about what's she's saying, it's probably not the best time to mention it. Especially since the family just found the body of the girl... But it doesn't mean it's not true...
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 10:57:37 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
You keep mentioning being a parent, but I don't think that really has any relevance, does it?
Oh, it's relevant. You just need to see it from his perspective; he cares about the dead white woman because he thinks it could be his daughter in the future next, which is why he keeps talking about the woman as if she were a fucking baby like a total creep. However, he does not make the same projections onto his child about abducted POC, therefore, he does not care if their stories are covered in the media or not. He sees the story about the murdered white woman as relevant to him and his family specifically, but does not apply the same standard to stories about abducted POC, and therefore does not care for us talking about wanting more coverage of those cases. Those aren't the cases that are relevant to *him*.

His own attitude is a tacit admission that the media's bias not only exists, but that it has a blatant effect on him that he likes.

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 10:59:04 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
It is really fucking gross that you project your feelings for your children onto this murdered woman

I'll refer back to my comment about your failure to understand human interactions/emotions. That is not at all what is happening. What a gross misinterpretation/reach to try to prove something. Ffs.

Gaawa_chan posted...
stan

God I wish this wasn't the new trendy word to use. It's so cringy

Gaawa_chan posted...
Okay? Why don't you feel that way about the 710 missing indigenous people then? Why is this one story oh so special and emotional for you but none of these uncovered stories matter? Do you want them to be treated like they matter or not?

First of all, I'm personally not that emotionally invested in this story at all. In fact, I didn't even hear about any of it until her body was found. Secondly, how am I supposed to care about a story I've never heard?

The fact that you're pissed that the media fixated on a random white girl while simultaneously being emotional over stories you don't even know exist is pretty weird to me.

Gaawa_chan posted...
You, your OWN ATTITUDE, is proof positive that abducted and missing POC NEED more media coverage, because if they got more, it might help you with your inability to take the plights of people who are different than you seriously.

Ok lady. Go ahead and keep patting yourself on the back for thinking you care more than I do about people of different backgrounds
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OhhhJa
09/21/21 11:00:09 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
Actually, no. A lot of us are fighting it
Making gamefaqs posts and tweeting isn't fighting anything. But keep congratulating yourself for your imagined efforts
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 11:03:46 PM
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Either you think abducted POC are worthy of the same amount of coverage as Petito or you don't, OhhhJa. No one is buying this pearl clutching and pussyfooting around of yours.

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joemodda
09/21/21 11:05:26 PM
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huWITE FEMALE PRIVILEGE in ACTION. Clearly her body should have just been left to rot to appease the people most affected by missing white people. jfc

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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 11:07:43 PM
#42:


joemodda posted...

Do you believe that abducted POC should get the same amount of media coverage or not?

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LinkPizza
09/21/21 11:10:39 PM
#43:


OhhhJa posted...
Making gamefaqs posts and tweeting isn't fighting anything. But keep congratulating yourself for your imagined efforts

It's probably better than doing nothing, though. And probably could help. I mean, people have used Twitter to cancel people, and to get companies to do something, or change something...

But also, how do you know they aren't actually doing something different to help... Are you just assuming?

OhhhJa posted...
The fact that you're pissed that the media fixated on a random white girl while simultaneously being emotional over stories you don't even know exist is pretty weird to me.

Again, it's not that people are pissed that people care about the white girl. People are pissed that nobody cares about the non-white ones... You keep trying to change the narrative of people...

joemodda posted...
huWITE FEMALE PRIVILEGE in ACTION. Clearly her body should have just been left to rot to appease the people most affected by missing white people. jfc

Nobody is saying that. They just want non-white people to get the same treatment...
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OhhhJa
09/21/21 11:35:32 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Again, it's not that people are pissed that people care about the white girl. People are pissed that nobody cares about the non-white ones... You keep trying to change the narrative of people...
Bullshit. It's both. If it wasn't both, then they wouldn't be bitching the day after her body was found
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LinkPizza
09/21/21 11:38:04 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Bullshit. It's both. If it wasn't both, then they wouldn't be bitching the day after her body was found

It's not bullshit, though...The reason people are complaining is because they ONLY show the white ones. If both white and non-white people got about the same coverage, then this wouldn't be an issue. And that's the truth... I haven't heard anyone saying she shouldn't have coverage at all. I've heard that want others who aren't white to have the same amount of coverage... Just because you don't like that answer because it doesn't fit you narrative doesn't make it not true... For example, I'm fine with Gabby getting attention. But I also wish that non-white girls who went missing would get the same kind of coverage... Or close to it, if possible...
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Gaawa_chan
09/21/21 11:41:40 PM
#46:


OhhhJa posted...
Bullshit. It's both. If it wasn't both, then they wouldn't be bitching the day after her body was found
None of this is difficult to understand. Lack of media coverage for POC (who disproportionately go missing, I might add) results in these cases going unsolved more often.

Cases with more media coverage are more likely to be solved. Where the media chooses to shed light affects police action. So, AGAIN, do you think that abducted POC cases deserve the same amount of coverage or not?

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OhhhJa
09/21/21 11:42:42 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
The reason people are complaining is because they ONLY show the white ones
I might as well just go ahead and point out that this isn't true. I read about missing people on the news of all colors all the time. Sure, this story got an exceptional amount of coverage but it's pretty rare for a missing person of any color to be covered as much as this story has been
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LinkPizza
09/22/21 12:00:34 AM
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Cases with more media coverage are more likely to be solved. Where the media chooses to shed light affects police action.

This is true. When there are a lot of eyes on a case, it gets more of the force on it. To show people that the police are doing something. I mean, they even said, Governor Ron DeSantis has ordered ALL state agencies to assist in the search of her boyfriend and suspect Brian Laundrie as FBI and local police have deployed ATVs, drones to a snake and alligator swampland and Thousands of law enforcement agencies and members of the public are on the hunt for the 23 y/o as the Governor said they will NOT stop the search until he is found when he was last seen with his parents on September 14th. Thats probably because it has so much media coverage. Because thats not something they do for EVERY missing persons case

OhhhJa posted...
I might as well just go ahead and point out that this isn't true. I read about missing people on the news of all colors all the time. Sure, this story got an exceptional amount of coverage but it's pretty rare for a missing person of any color to be covered as much as this story has been

The only was obviously an exaggeration. Even in post #6, I said, But it is true that most of the time, it is usually caucasian female that will get more news coverage like this compared to females of other races But that doesnt change the fact thats it more often than not, white females over non-white females that get coverage. If non-white females didnt unfairly get more coverage, they would have already shown stats to prove otherwise. Missing White Woman Syndrome isnt new. Tv shows and movies have mad fun of it before. Even in this topic, they show a movie and tv show that has made fun of it. If this didnt happen, wed have at least some stats that show us otherwise. But we dont, because its most likely true that white women get more coverage I dont see all the news, and my experiences wont be the same for everyone. But thats what Ive seen when I watched the news everyday And I didnt even like watching the news

And its not that rare. Ive seen many other white girls get this much coverage. Sometimes even more. It happens quite often
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helIy
09/22/21 6:43:46 AM
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he is just getting absolutely destroyed lmao

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Xfma100
09/22/21 7:07:33 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
No. I don't think that's exactly it. People of all genders, races, etc go missing every year. But it is true that most of the time, it is usually caucasian female that will get more news coverage like this compared to females of other races... I use to watch the news every morning at work for years, and it is true... I don't think I've seen coverage of many people of color, if any, or to this extent. But I saw coverage of caucasian females pretty often... It wasn't everyday or anything. But often enough...

I won't disagree that missing white women receive more coverage than women of other races, but very few people, of any race or gender, receive the same type of coverage as the current coverage of Gabby Petito.

Also, how does the coverage of missing women compare to the coverage of missing men or missing children?
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