Current Events > Gacha Game General Topic 21: ''Part of a nutritious breakfast.''

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YotsuMaboroshi
09/18/21 4:48:07 PM
#151:


Calwings posted...
The teams I used on the first day today (with the ones I borrowed as supports in italics) were:

1) Shiori, Saren, S-Pecorine, Makoto, Jun
2) S-Kokkoro, Monika, Kaori, Makoto, Jun
3) Suzuna, Mitsuki, Kokkoro, Mimi, Makoto

All of them are at 5 stars except for S-Kokkoro, Kaori, my Jun, and one of the borrowed Makotos. For the third team, I wasn't sure if I should put one of my tanks in front of Makoto or if Makoto herself could take the hits well enough without a tank so I could use another attacker.

Would a 5-star Kaori support be better than a 4-star Makoto support for one of those teams? And what else would you suggest in terms of rearranging or changing (aside from building a magic-based team, which I mentioned I don't have the characters for) to make these teams better?
It depends on the boss, as there's no truly one-size-fits-all solution due to mechanics and stats. One of the easiest meta comps you can build for this though would be Shiori/Saren/Makoto/Kaori/Jun. Comparing it with the results of your first comp today, using this comp would have provided more damage whether you borrow Makoto or Kaori.

I think Shiori/Saren/Makoto/Kaori/Jun would work best based on the other comps you posted. Second comp you can run Suzuna/Mitsuki/S.Kokkoro/Makoto/Kaori (5 star Kaori preferred here, since she's in the front with no protection).

Third comp is a bit more challenging to figure out though. Maybe Kokkoro/Mimi/S.Pecorine/Makoto plus one more damage dealer somewhere. Not sure who else you have or have built, but Djeeta, S.Tamaki, Tomo, Hiyori, Arisa, and Eriko should be viable options. Ayane or Tamaki are also possibilities, though I think they're somewhat weaker than the previous mentions. Shinobu can be used as an extra DEF shred, but she's really easy to mess up when building (best results at 8-5 with Skull skill unleveled at the moment), so probably not worth the effort. If you find that the front line is dying too quickly, then you can use a tank for the fifth slot instead, with Miyako or Nozomi being the best options there.

The document that Funkydog linked is a good starting point for auto comps for this CB at least. It's what I based my advice above on, at the very least. There's always trial runs available if you want to check damage for a comp before spending an attack, which might be helpful for figuring out your third comp against a boss.

Edit: Added quote for reference since this ended up on a new page. Also underlined support choices, since Italics only was difficult for me to see.
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Calwings
09/18/21 5:32:04 PM
#152:


YotsuMaboroshi posted...
It depends on the boss, as there's no truly one-size-fits-all solution due to mechanics and stats. One of the easiest meta comps you can build for this though would be Shiori/Saren/Makoto/Kaori/Jun. Comparing it with the results of your first comp today, using this comp would have provided more damage whether you borrow Makoto or Kaori.

I think Shiori/Saren/Makoto/Kaori/Jun would work best based on the other comps you posted. Second comp you can run Suzuna/Mitsuki/S.Kokkoro/Makoto/Kaori (5 star Kaori preferred here, since she's in the front with no protection).

Thanks, I'll test out those two comps tomorrow. I'd need to borrow a 5-star Kaori (I believe we have one in the clan) for that second one.

YotsuMaboroshi posted...
Third comp is a bit more challenging to figure out though. Maybe Kokkoro/Mimi/S.Pecorine/Makoto plus one more damage dealer somewhere. Not sure who else you have or have built, but Djeeta, S.Tamaki, Tomo, Hiyori, Arisa, and Eriko should be viable options. Ayane or Tamaki are also possibilities, though I think they're somewhat weaker than the previous mentions. Shinobu can be used as an extra DEF shred, but she's really easy to mess up when building (best results at 8-5 with Skull skill unleveled at the moment), so probably not worth the effort. If you find that the front line is dying too quickly, then you can use a tank for the fifth slot instead, with Miyako or Nozomi being the best options there.

Out of the other options you mentioned, I have Djeeta, Tamaki, Shinobu, and the two tanks built, but Djeeta is only at 4 stars and Shinobu is at 8-6 (which I thought was her optimal) rather than 8-5 and her Skulldaddy skill is leveled. Would a 4-star Djeeta be better than some of the others at 5 stars?
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YotsuMaboroshi
09/18/21 6:01:03 PM
#153:


Calwings posted...
Out of the other options you mentioned, I have Djeeta, Tamaki, Shinobu, and the two tanks built, but Djeeta is only at 4 stars and Shinobu is at 8-6 (which I thought was her optimal) rather than 8-5 and her Skulldaddy skill is leveled. Would a 4-star Djeeta be better than some of the others at 5 stars?
Shinobu 8-6 instead of 8-5 generates a little less TP when hit, and with Skulldaddy leveled he can't be easily used to give the boss TP. You generate extra TP when hit by a bosses UB, which some UB spam strats rely on, though I think it matters more for X.Chika than Shinobu. It's an extreme min-max case, but you should be fairly close right now, and it probably doesn't matter too much.

4 star Djeeta should be better than 5 star Tamaki for most CB bosses. Regular Tamaki's main use in CB is delaying the boss's UB, while Djeeta is all-in for damage at the moment. So I'd test Shinobu or Djeeta for your third comp, and swap them for a tank when needed. Tamaki can be swapped in if the boss UB is ending your fight too early.
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YotsuMaboroshi
09/18/21 6:21:02 PM
#154:


Double post, but this is more general notes for the current CB rather than anything specific for Calwing's teams. The current plant boss paralyzes on UB, and the UB is up to 2 targets (I think). RNG can mess with damage a lot as a result, especially if only one person gets hit and ends up paralyzed for 4s.

The next turtle boss has a skill where it withdraws into it's shell, and after it comes back out it will do 40% of the damage it received during that time (lasts for 4s). UBs during this time are very likely to murder your front line, so it can mess with auto a bit.

The final scorpion boss is very resistant to physical damage (unfortunate for those who can't field a magic team), and will cleanse debuffs on itself while increasing it's physical defense. Additionally, each time it uses it's UB will increase it's UB damage, similar to Arisa, except that it stacks up to 3 times instead of 1. Might be useful to look at delaying the boss's UB with Tamaki or S.Tamaki, and avoid using units like Shinobu or Chika who spawn fragile adds that the boss can gain TP off of by killing.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
09/18/21 6:26:03 PM
#155:


Stagmar posted...

There 556 including collabs or 523 not including collabs.


Holy hell, I couldn't even hold half of them, my current cap is 216.

Part of me wants to think it won't be so bad because most of those ships are probably purple/gold/etc that I'll never see, but then I remember most of my current roster is gray/blue with new ships popping out every event because I haven't collected them before now, or how it seems there's always at least two easily obtained ships via event points, and then even more space being set aside for dupes/bulins.

Man, I'm gonna need more gems or this is going to become an issue somewhere down the line.
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YugiNoob
09/18/21 6:27:34 PM
#156:


Yeah, one thing I hate is how the game rarely gives out gems. Even GFL gives out 30 per week for sharing on social media lol. And you don't even need to really share; you can just click the button and close it :3

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YotsuMaboroshi
09/18/21 6:45:23 PM
#157:


YotsuMaboroshi posted...
4 star Djeeta should be better than 5 star Tamaki for most CB bosses. Regular Tamaki's main use in CB is delaying the boss's UB, while Djeeta is all-in for damage at the moment. So I'd test Shinobu or Djeeta for your third comp, and swap them for a tank when needed. Tamaki can be swapped in if the boss UB is ending your fight too early.
@Calwings
Thinking about this a bit more, 4 star Djeeta might actually be better in CB than your 5 star S.Peco. Djeeta's damage timeline is comparable to Kaori and Hiyori (i.e. she gets UB about as fast as they do, though she's clearly behind Kaori in damage due to Kaori's buff), and she's single-target. S.Peco's knockback isn't very useful in CB, most of her damage is cleave, and she does take more magic damage.

So you could try Kokkoro/Shinobu/Mimi/Djeeta/Makoto as your third comp as well. If you'd prefer to stick with waifu though, I'd understand completely.
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Umbreon
09/18/21 7:16:00 PM
#158:


Why can't (enemy) Illyas kill themselves in pvp as often as borrowed Illyas love doing it in CB Clash?

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Calwings
09/18/21 7:49:52 PM
#159:


Thanks for all the help, I appreciate it. So tomorrow I'm going to go with these teams (again, with the ones I borrow as supports in italics)

1) Shiori, Saren, Makoto, Kaori, Jun
2) Suzuna, Mitsuki, S.Kokkoro, Makoto, Kaori
3) Kokkoro, Shinobu, Mimi, Djeeta, Makoto

I just did trial runs with teams 2 and 3 on the current boss, and neither of them had the frontline attackers die quick enough that I would need to put a tank in front. But if a later boss battle would lead to that problem where I need to put a tank in front to keep the frontline attackers alive, who on each of those teams is the most expendable and can be removed? I'll probably need to test that with more trial runs later on if it's necessary.
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YugiNoob
09/18/21 7:56:27 PM
#160:


I kinda want a new game to play but at the same time don't want to do more dailies :<

I wish more games could be like Opera Omnia where all you need to do is literally one battle lol

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Stagmar
09/18/21 8:24:52 PM
#161:


I think its safe to say by now that Girl Cafe Gun support isnt going to get back to me. Guess Ill just have to forever wonder why my account was ended.


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Eab1990
09/18/21 8:35:44 PM
#162:


Eab1990 posted...
Another arc 2 character becomes playable.

https://twitter.com/priconne_redive/status/1438789852183490563

Creditta, guildmaster and currently only known member of Richmond Commerce Association.

I guess its still too early for Rage Legion members to become playable, especially after the last chapters revelations.

Still, a quick glance at the discord leads me to believe that this is just as unexpected as it looks. Shes not a fighter and Yuuki barely interacts with this girl. Most of her on-screen time is with Pecorine.

Even JP comments are wondering where Homare or Rosetta are at.

... Oh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJlUtpvFySs

It's her fucking birthday.

That's some really weird timing, still.
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YotsuMaboroshi
09/18/21 8:59:30 PM
#163:


Calwings posted...
Thanks for all the help, I appreciate it. So tomorrow I'm going to go with these teams (again, with the ones I borrow as supports in italics)

1) Shiori, Saren, Makoto, Kaori, Jun
2) Suzuna, Mitsuki, S.Kokkoro, Makoto, Kaori
3) Kokkoro, Shinobu, Mimi, Djeeta, Makoto

I just did trial runs with teams 2 and 3 on the current boss, and neither of them had the frontline attackers die quick enough that I would need to put a tank in front. But if a later boss battle would lead to that problem where I need to put a tank in front to keep the frontline attackers alive, who on each of those teams is the most expendable and can be removed? I'll probably need to test that with more trial runs later on if it's necessary.
Team 2 you'd probably replace Mitsuki. Team 3 probably replace Shinobu, unless frontline damage is high enough that 4 star Djeeta can't survive. Generally speaking, I think the second def shredder is probably the most expendable. Also note that it's possible Team 2 might not have an issue surviving in a fight Team 3 does, because Team 2 has S.Kokkoro.

Umbreon posted...
Why can't (enemy) Illyas kill themselves in pvp as often as borrowed Illyas love doing it in CB Clash?
Not sure how the support Illyas are built since I haven't really looked at them, but someone focused on PVP over CB may have left Illya at Rank 9 instead of going to 10 or 11. Rank 9 Illya is less likely to crit herself with her skills, which is the main cause of Illya suicide.
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YugiNoob
09/18/21 9:05:04 PM
#164:


I might give Priconne another shot. Are Christina and/or Labyrista available to reroll for? I wasnt too happy with my initial account so I might just start over if possible

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Shadow20201
09/18/21 9:05:29 PM
#165:


YotsuMaboroshi posted...
Not sure how the support Illyas are built since I haven't really looked at them, but someone focused on PVP over CB may have left Illya at Rank 9 instead of going to 10 or 11. Rank 9 Illya is less likely to crit herself with her skills, which is the main cause of Illya suicide.
Plus she needs a Saren to boost her UB so it goes off before she kills herself. No Saren, no Ilya.

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Eab1990
09/18/21 9:19:18 PM
#166:


Christina/PriFes is next month.

Lol Labyrista. Youre still three years too early.
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YotsuMaboroshi
09/18/21 9:32:12 PM
#167:


Shadow20201 posted...
Plus she needs a Saren to boost her UB so it goes off before she kills herself. No Saren, no Ilya.
In PVP, generally yeah. PVP is cleave heavy, and enemy Tamaki exists there. It depends on the boss in CB. Misato should be able to keep a tanking Illya alive enough to UB for the last 2 bosses in the current CB, and since she's tanking she gets the extra TP from taking the boss's melee, which should be enough that she can UB before dying and top off. Unless she crits herself to the face.
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YugiNoob
09/19/21 12:40:39 AM
#168:


Eab1990 posted...
Christina/PriFes is next month.

Lol Labyrista. Youre still three years too early.
The fuck?? Lab is that far off D:

And is that when Christina comes out or just a rate up banner?

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LordFarquad1312
09/19/21 12:43:27 AM
#169:


YugiNoob posted...
The fuck?? Lab is that far off D:

And is that when Christina comes out or just a rate up banner?
She comes out at the end of October and she's a limited character

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Eab1990
09/19/21 12:47:30 AM
#170:


Is this your first Cygames Fes/Gala/etc.? It's 72 hours of 2x rate and a pool of limited (usually half/anniversary celebration) units.

Since this would be global's first PriFes, Christina is the only one on rate-up. Years from now, the pool will be bloated with Princess Forms, the other Seven Crowns, HatsuShio, and presumably any other dual-units we get down the line.
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YugiNoob
09/19/21 12:59:52 AM
#171:


Oh fuck...Granblue PTSD :<

I suppose I could give it a shot anyway.

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Eab1990
09/19/21 1:05:58 AM
#172:


https://twitter.com/tonari_garden3/status/1439229471656067075

Guessing nobody here will understand these references, but eh.
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Calwings
09/19/21 4:13:43 AM
#173:


New variant of best girl Karen was added in Revue Starlight about an hour ago. I now own 14 of the 15 variants of her in the game (still waiting for Apollo to be re-run) and still have nearly 30,000 star gems left for her birthday banner and another new variant that will come with it next week.

https://i.imgur.com/X51quHQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7wKvzXE.jpg

Idiots should not be this sexy.
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YugiNoob
09/19/21 5:28:31 AM
#174:


Man is anyone else doing way less damage to Souryuu META compared to Helena? I'm only getting around 325K on auto, but with Helena I could easily get over 500K.

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Shotgunnova
09/19/21 8:28:36 AM
#175:


Got the drop!



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YugiNoob
09/19/21 8:52:17 AM
#176:


Oh hey I didn't notice her sword was that long. She be packing Yuzuriha level ridiculousness with it lol

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Shadow20201
09/19/21 9:37:22 AM
#177:


YugiNoob posted...
Man is anyone else doing way less damage to Souryuu META compared to Helena? I'm only getting around 325K on auto, but with Helena I could easily get over 500K.
A month or so after the start of a new Meta battle, the game adds a friendly barrage to the battle that gets progressively stronger the closer to the end it gets. When I started Helena I was doing around 250k and ended up around 500k by the end due to the barrage.

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YugiNoob
09/19/21 6:00:43 PM
#178:


Oh, thats right, I forgot about that

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YugiNoob
09/19/21 8:28:02 PM
#179:


I'm gonna see how long it takes to get Requiem; I started a week ago on 9/12. Unfortunately I spent a crapton of stamina potions on Frostfire, so I think it's gonna be a long road D:

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Umbreon
09/19/21 9:52:36 PM
#180:


I finally managed to get 1st in Princess Arena. From what I've heard of Halloween Shinobu, she really shakes things up in pvp so I wanted to get that out of the way before another meta shift.

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Umbreon
09/19/21 9:55:25 PM
#181:


YugiNoob posted...
Then I came across its trailer in the app store, and... Star Wars sound effects lol

LOL! They aren't even trying to disguise that. Surprised they didn't leave Darth Vader breathing in that trailer.

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Tyranthraxus
09/19/21 9:56:19 PM
#182:


This season's co-op was pretty fun



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YugiNoob
09/19/21 10:10:24 PM
#183:


Well, I can see what kind of game Luna Storia is lol




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Umbreon
09/19/21 10:13:28 PM
#184:


They certainly got their ass...ets in order.

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YugiNoob
09/20/21 6:35:49 AM
#185:


All right, I have enough Orundum/tickets for 27 10 pulls in Arknights lol. And thats still growing as I farm those device things :3

When ms. Kitty show up, I WILL get her.

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YugiNoob
09/20/21 5:21:58 PM
#186:


Hey is that that garbage bag Pokemon in the background near the top of the screen?



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legendarylemur
09/20/21 5:44:28 PM
#187:


Somebody call the Nintender

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The Catgirl Fondler
09/20/21 11:00:34 PM
#188:


Shotgunnova posted...
Got the drop!




Can't you get her with event points though? That's how I got my copy.
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Shotgunnova
09/20/21 11:18:10 PM
#189:


The Catgirl Fondler posted...
Can't you get her with event points though? That's how I got my copy.
Sure, but I'd rather put all those points towards the rainbow torpedoes.

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The Catgirl Fondler
09/21/21 2:01:54 AM
#190:


Shotgunnova posted...

Sure, but I'd rather put all those points towards the rainbow torpedoes.


Ah, okay, fair enough.
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Shotgunnova
09/21/21 2:54:18 AM
#191:


I'd really only buy the ship from the event shop on one of the last days. With the new PR grinds, it's just easier to try and get a drop instead of blowing 8K points right away.

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Stagmar
09/21/21 12:50:59 PM
#192:


I'll build a few a day until I have everyone except the dropped ship and farm until I have enough to buy everything I want from the shop. If I get her before I finish farming, then that's 8000 points less I have to farm.

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The Catgirl Fondler
09/21/21 5:50:27 PM
#193:


Shotgunnova posted...
I'd really only buy the ship from the event shop on one of the last days. With the new PR grinds, it's just easier to try and get a drop instead of blowing 8K points right away.


Well, for the Idolmaster collab in particular I didn't want to risk missing Azusa, and sure enough I never got any copies of her beyond what I used event points for.

Since then though I've had the kind of luck where I got two Bremerton drops during the last event, and my daily builds gave me a second Chikuma today. So maybe I should rethink my own event point spending going forward, lol.
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YugiNoob
09/21/21 8:58:33 PM
#194:


I need another game to play since Christina isnt coming out for a while :<

I dont know if I should give Digimon ReArise another chance. Were the dailies time-consuming?

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YugiNoob
09/22/21 12:44:43 AM
#195:


The fuck, War of the Visions having a collab with Tomb Raider lol

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
09/22/21 1:18:10 AM
#196:


YugiNoob posted...
I need another game to play since Christina isnt coming out for a while :<

I dont know if I should give Digimon ReArise another chance. Were the dailies time-consuming?


Well, the "Greet Guest Digimon twice" quest can oddly take longer than expected because sometimes you log-in and there's only a single mon visiting you, so you might need to pop in during another part of the day to see if anybody else showed up.

Said "guests" mind you, are from your friends list, so starting back up again you probably won't have anybody who could show up yet. At worst, you only miss out on some bits, which is the basic currency you'll earns tons of anyway.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
09/22/21 1:21:29 AM
#197:


YugiNoob posted...
The fuck, War of the Visions having a collab with Tomb Raider lol


Yeah... Square Enix owns shit from Eidos and Crystal Dynamics apparently.

Personally I want a Legacy of Kain collab if that's the case.
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Calwings
09/22/21 5:10:42 PM
#198:


https://twitter.com/D4DJ_game_EN/status/1440707470150668293

wah
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Stagmar
09/22/21 5:42:56 PM
#199:


I can't believe that's Ina game.

Counter:Side got a new UI last night and man do I hate it. Limit break, skill training, and salary negotiation (leveling items) are buried under extra clicks.

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YugiNoob
09/22/21 10:39:05 PM
#200:


Is there still no batch download in ReArise? I kinda figured they would've fixed that by now, but the loading times are still horrendous. And do they have any welcome gifts? Because I only got enough stuff to do a single 10 pull plus the tutorial roll, and that isn't nearly enough to make me want to play again <_<

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