Poll of the Day > Danny DeVito posted in favour of the Nabisco strike, twitter unverified him

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It's fixed now, but, like, what was twitter thinking? Did Danny DeVito suddenly morph into a different person and so wasn't the real Danny DeVito for a few hours or what? 'cuz that's the only purpose the verification mark serves


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Jack Dorsey joining Zuck in targeting anyone left of Joe Biden; have to wonder how many progressives, leftists and communists have been de-verified but were not famous enough for the world to care about.

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Questioning the elites can lead to "consequences"...

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Nabisco bakers across the US are on strike, potentially disrupting Oreo supply

oh no, not the oreos !

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Sahuagin posted...

oh no, not the oreos !

nabisco wants their workers to work 12 hour days with no overtime, all the while they close factories and move them to other countries

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Bout time those damn elves unionized.

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Anyone else remember when Nabisco randomly had a bunch of online flash games that were actually really good

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Lokarin posted...

It's fixed now, but, like, what was twitter thinking? Did Danny DeVito suddenly morph into a different person and so wasn't the real Danny DeVito for a few hours or what? 'cuz that's the only purpose the verification mark serves

I've heard there are actually services or functions the check marks grant to accounts, so he would have lost access to those.

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likehelly posted...

nabisco wants their workers to work 12 hour days with no overtime, all the while they close factories and move them to other countries

Is that legal? My understanding was that in the entire US if you worked over 40 hours you got OT. Is Nabisco trying to classify their entire staff as salaried?

wolfy42 posted...

Bout time those damn elves unionized.

You know? What does adding more chocolate chips or candies to cookies have to do with believing in elves? o_O

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

Is that legal? My understanding was that in the entire US if you worked over 40 hours you got OT. Is Nabisco trying to classify their entire staff as salaried?

US companies haven't exactly given a damn about what's legal for some time now, and no one with any power has been going after them except a few "radical leftists." That is how far to the right and into the land of insanity our country has become.

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

Is that legal? My understanding was that in the entire US if you worked over 40 hours you got OT. Is Nabisco trying to classify their entire staff as salaried?

it is legal, yes

overtime is only working more than your required hours. so if your standard work time is 9-5 m-f, so your normal 9 hour work period. anything over that is overtime.

but if they change your work period to 12 hour days, then anything over that is considered overtime.

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likehelly posted...

overtime is only working more than your required hours. so if your standard work time is 9-5 m-f, so your normal 9 hour work period. anything over that is overtime.

but if they change your work period to 12 hour days, then anything over that is considered overtime.

Federal law states that anything over 40 hours in a work week is overtime, for non exempt employees. Some states, like the one that I live in, expand on that by including anything over 8 hours in a day.

So even in states that don't have a daily limit you could only work 3 days a week on 12 hour shifts before the company would have to pay overtime. 4 days of that would exceed the federal limits and require overtime pay.

BTH_Phoenix posted...

Questioning the elites can lead to "consequences"...

Except when it happens to a leftist, they get reinstated >_>

Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

Is that legal? My understanding was that in the entire US if you worked over 40 hours you got OT. Is Nabisco trying to classify their entire staff as salaried?

Even if you're salaried, that's illegal unless you're in a management position with oversight responsibilities.

Entity13 posted...

US companies haven't exactly given a damn about what's legal for some time now, and no one with any power has been going after them except a few "radical leftists." That is how far to the right and into the land of insanity our country has become.

*Cue laughtrack*

likehelly posted...

it is legal, yes

overtime is only working more than your required hours. so if your standard work time is 9-5 m-f, so your normal 9 hour work period. anything over that is overtime.

but if they change your work period to 12 hour days, then anything over that is considered overtime.

Where do you get stuff like that? It's like you spent all of your time researching on dumbasspedia.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime

You post the stupidest fucking shit ever, Helly. It's amazing that you consistently have the worst fucking hot takes. No, you can't just say "if you workweek is 80 hours, overtime is just hours worked past that!" And jfc that you'd believe that.

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a 12 hour day at 4 days a week is the same fucking hours you absolute dullard.

if they work more than 12 hours at any time in their workweek, that's what will be considered overtime, since it's then over 40 fucking hours.

and Nabisco wanting to not pay them for overtime translates to overtime not being available.

have you ever even had a job.

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faramir77 posted...

Anyone else remember when Nabisco randomly had a bunch of online flash games that were actually really good

Holy shit, yeah. My mom and I played the mini golf one all the time.

likehelly posted...

a 12 hour day at 4 days a week is the same fucking hours you absolute dullard.

if they work more than 12 hours at any time in their workweek, that's what will be considered overtime, since it's then over 40 fucking hours.

Might want to check your math there, old sport.
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likehelly posted...

so if your standard work time is 9-5 m-f, so your normal 9 hour work period

9-5 is 8 hours.

likehelly posted...

12 hour day at 4 days a week is the same fucking hours

124=48

48=/=40

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seems i have to educate people on how for things like this don't have paid breaks, too

every work day has a 2 hour max break time spread out in 15 minute, or even 30 minute blocks.

they are not paid breaks. because if they were paid, then you would be going into overtime. which nabisco wants to eliminate.

so.

2 times 4 is 8.

48 minus 8 is 40

holy shit look at that your hours worked are 40.

and since federal rules state that breaks less than 20 minutes must be paid, they aren't getting 15 minute breaks, likely 20-30 minute ones.

and if one of their plants is in a state that has no state-level break requirements, then, it defaults to federal rules. which also...don't actually make breaks required. just that if there are breaks, then anything 15 minutes or less have to be paid.

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likehelly posted...

seems i have to educate people on how for things like this don't have paid breaks, too

every work day has a 2 hour max break time spread out in 15 minute, or even 30 minute blocks.

they are not paid breaks. because if they were paid, then you would be going into overtime. which nabisco wants to eliminate.

so.

2 times 4 is 8.

48 minus 8 is 40

holy shit look at that your hours worked are 40.

and since federal rules state that breaks less than 20 minutes must be paid, they aren't getting 15 minute breaks, likely 20-30 minute ones.

and if one of their plants is in a state that has no state-level break requirements, then, it defaults to federal rules. which also...don't actually make breaks required. just that if there are breaks, then anything 15 minutes or less have to be paid.

Man, you are reaching hard. Nobody that works a working class job is getting 2 hours worth of break time every day. Not even for 12 hour shifts

With UBI people would have the freedom to just leave jobs that dont respect their work/life balance

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OhhhJa posted...

Man, you are reaching hard. Nobody that works a working class job is getting 2 hours worth of break time every day. Not even for 12 hour shifts

hence the fucking strike

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Union leaders say that Mondelez has proposed switching from eight-hour shifts, five days a week, to 12-hour shifts, three or four days a week, without overtime, and with increased mandatory work on weekends without extra pay.

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Well, if they are working overtime and aren't getting paid that's a quick easy fix by contacting the department of labor. If they are getting overtime and are getting paid then I don't see the issue

Mead posted...

With UBI people would have the freedom to just leave jobs that dont respect their work/life balance

But then corporations would have to come up with competitive alternatives to keep their employees, how unfair is that

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likehelly posted...

a 12 hour day at 4 days a week is the same fucking hours you absolute dullard.

I agree that the Nabisco workers are right in their strike, but this statement makes zero sense and counters the point you're making.

12 hour shifts with 4 days on and 4 days off (8 day work cycle) is more working time than a standard 40 hour work week (7 day work cycle).

48 hours / 8 days = 6 hours per day on average

40 hours/ 7 days = 5.714 hours per day on average

Don't try to bring breaks into this equation. You're still at work during a break. It still eats up part of your day and doesn't form what nearly anyone would call your free time.

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

Is that legal? My understanding was that in the entire US if you worked over 40 hours you got OT. Is Nabisco trying to classify their entire staff as salaried?

There are too many variables to make a blanket statement IMO, but thats the closest to being true. A lot of it will be determined by state/federal law, along with union stipulations if you have one. For instance, I believe if youre working something thats considered seasonal then your hours over 40 dont qualify as OT. Thats why places like Cedar Point bring labor in from overseas.

Im now a Federal employee which also somehow requires that Im in a union. So I get OT on weekends and anything more than 8 hours in a day, excluding my unpaid lunch. But my last job it was just OT in anything over 40 in a week. By comparison I could technically work something like 38 hours here and still get OT pay if one of those days in that week had me work over 8 hours.

Then there are the right to work states

which in my experience means that as a worker you have no rights and have to work whenever they tell you, and fuck you if that doesnt work for you

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Imagine being fingered by Danny Devito

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Oh noooo not again!!!

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Far-Queue posted...

Oh noooo not again!!!

Lmao

Bet the dude has to wash his beard like 6 times a day to get the coochie smell out

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Mead posted...

Bet the dude has to wash his beard like 6 times a day to get the coochie smell out

Like a real G

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Zeus posted...

*Cue laughtrack*

Are you laughing at the fact that American companies are exactly like that?
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Nah, he's just trying to gaslight, as usual, and make it seem as though the actual truth is outside of reality.

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