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Judgmenl 08/16/21 4:04:03 PM #1: |
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Judgmenl 08/16/21 4:09:26 PM #2: |
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Mead 08/16/21 4:26:38 PM #3: |
I will watch this soon
Im curious what he has to say because this is absolutely unacceptable. We have allies. This could have been done more intelligently. --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 4:44:13 PM #4: |
He says they are going to work on getting more people out but how are they going to do that when the taliban have taken control of everything
Whats done is done but this was a shameful error and people are going to suffer and die because of it --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 08/16/21 4:44:46 PM #5: |
He didn't say much.
Clearly there is something going on we're not allowed to know about. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is fuarrked ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 4:51:28 PM #6: |
At least he took responsibility and admitted that this did not happen the way they intended
Certainly doesnt make him look like an effective leader, but its more honest than what we normally see --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 08/16/21 4:58:11 PM #7: |
Or he just doesn't wanna talk about how it's a huge shit show
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Mead 08/16/21 5:07:00 PM #8: |
That is more than plain to see
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Zeus 08/16/21 5:31:43 PM #9: |
Judgmenl posted...
Clearly there is something going on we're not allowed to know about. Perhaps it's some strategy where they're trying to deliberately collapse the government to install a puppet state and turn the nation into an American colony. Given Obama and Biden's middle-east policy which largely involved destabilizing the region's governments, I wouldn't be surprised if these collapses had been engineered so the US could rush in and seize greater power. Some of the strategies are reminiscent of what the US was doing to screw over central and South America. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 08/16/21 5:37:12 PM #10: |
I would not doubt that.
I also wouldn't doubt "Destabalize Afghanistan and invade again". Thought that's what this speach was about. "The Afghan people cannot take care of themselves. We have been out for days and their government and army collapsed. This is why nation building is so important". --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is fuarrked ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 5:42:11 PM #11: |
Judgmenl posted...
I would not doubt that. did we watch the same speech? He spends the entire opening talking about how we shouldnt be nation building and it doesnt work what Zeus is saying makes absolutely no sense, shame on you for not seeing that. The US already had a puppet regime and largely had control over the country. There is no benefit to the US or global powers to hand it over to the taliban and supply them with such an abundance of resources --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 08/16/21 5:43:04 PM #12: |
We need to stay the fuck out of the Middle East. No foreign involvement has ever been a good idea.
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Judgmenl 08/16/21 5:44:22 PM #13: |
Sorry I thought that was what the speech was GOING to be about.
Zareth posted... We need to stay the fuck out of the Middle East. No foreign involvement has ever been a good idea. We only do it to support Israel. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is fuarrked ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 5:46:32 PM #14: |
Zareth posted...
We need to stay the fuck out of the Middle East. No foreign involvement has ever been a good idea. and if we do need to be involved then our leaders need to just be honest about the reasons so that people are informed and can accurately decide democratically if the conflict is worth it, or not. People are better informed and connected than ever before. As crazy as shit is right now I think we are actually on a major cultural upswing for the better, and there are certain actions that we are simply not going to tolerate from our leaders anymore, regardless of which side of the fence they are on --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 08/16/21 5:47:41 PM #15: |
Cheers and applauds.
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Mead 08/16/21 5:48:16 PM #16: |
Judgmenl posted...
We only do it to support Israel. Ive yet to hear a good reason why we should support or be allied with a violent ethnostate --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 08/16/21 5:49:24 PM #17: |
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Ive yet to hear a good reason why we should support or be allied with a violent ethnostateThe same reason why are allied with Saudi Arabia. They are the only stable governments in the region. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is fuarrked ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 5:54:05 PM #18: |
Judgmenl posted...
The same reason why are allied with Saudi Arabia. They are the only stable governments in the region. Stable isnt the word Id use for either. --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 08/16/21 5:57:05 PM #19: |
Mead posted...
and if we do need to be involved then our leaders need to just be honest about the reasons so that people are informed and can accurately decide democratically if the conflict is worth it, or not.I mean anyone with half a brain should realize that America only gets involved in foreign conflicts for its own economic interests. --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 5:59:37 PM #20: |
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I mean anyone with half a brain should realize that America only gets involved in foreign conflicts for its own economic interests. a lot of Americans are just fucking dumb like really really dumb, its easy to forget unless you are out and around them --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blighboy 08/16/21 6:02:05 PM #21: |
The US spent 20 years creating a nation the populace did not support or want. Obviously it couldn't support itself.
If that's the end goal, the US would probably need to stay there for at least sixty years, such that the entire adult population live their lives under US rule. Even then it might not work. The US would likely need to purge the entire ruling social class. You'd have better luck doing this in almost any other country. --- I have no idea whether or not he's a racist, but apparently there are recordings of him using racial slurs so it's a distinct possibility. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 6:03:23 PM #22: |
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You'd have better luck doing this in almost any other country. we should do it to Mexico if we are gonna do that shit mexico fucking rocks and if we improve their country it essentially solves the decades long border crisis --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pionear 08/16/21 6:03:53 PM #23: |
Judgmenl posted...
Sorry I thought that was what the speech was GOING to be about. And keep them from selling oil to other Developing Nations ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blighboy 08/16/21 6:09:49 PM #24: |
https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1427275592383205382
lmao --- I have no idea whether or not he's a racist, but apparently there are recordings of him using racial slurs so it's a distinct possibility. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/16/21 6:12:24 PM #25: |
I mean she already looks like one of them the way she is holding a rifle all the time, she should probably just join up
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MrMelodramatic 08/16/21 6:41:42 PM #26: |
I thought it was a good speech. I dont like whats going on, but I appreciate the transparency and the blame-taking. Tbh getting people out and giving humanitarian aid is about the best we can do for that region. We shouldnt have drawn up borders for them a hundred years ago, and we shouldnt have gotten involved with nation-building twenty years ago. If the Afghan people dont believe in a United Afghanistan, we shouldnt fight wars for them. We should fight against human rights violations.
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NeoSioType 08/16/21 6:55:21 PM #27: |
I heard the Taliban said they're going to reallow China to mine copper. Afghanistan has also been called the Saudi Arabia of lithium. Maybe China is somehow backing the Taliban?
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Mead 08/16/21 7:10:57 PM #28: |
NeoSioType posted...
I heard the Taliban said they're going to reallow China to mine copper. Afghanistan has also been called the Saudi Arabia of lithium. Maybe China is somehow backing the Taliban? Its certainly possible, the US has backed the taliban many times over the decades, this isnt the first time that we have given them a ton of weapons and resources. The shameful thing is that none of these politicians or generals learned any fucking lessons from the past. So much money spent but how many schools did they try to build? How many hospitals? The smallest investment would have paid in dividends. --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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likehelly 08/16/21 7:59:08 PM #29: |
Blighboy posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1427275592383205382she's not even trying to hide it anymore --- helly venmo: https://imgur.com/rB9qJ8o :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 08/17/21 2:20:14 AM #30: |
Based Joe Biden
Excellent speech, the way things went down prove that Afghanistan is nothing more than an endless money pit. Should've left sooner. Fuck anyone that's ever claimed to be against American imperialism or to be "anti-interventionist" now saying we should've extended the camping trip. Judgmenl posted... We only do it to support Israel.You get your marching orders from the Protocols? We do it for oil, other resources, to prop up the military industrial contractors, etc... But yeah, ignore the obvious reasons so you can blame the Jews. Zareth posted... I mean anyone with half a brain should realize that America only gets involved in foreign conflicts for its own economic interests.Yup. https://twitter.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1427307403998109700?s=20 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KodyKeir 08/17/21 6:59:02 AM #31: |
Mead posted...
we do need to be involved then our leaders need to just be honest about the reasons so that people are informed and can accurately decide democratically if the conflict is worth it, or not. No more of this "Empire Lite" nonsense. Blighboy posted... If that's the end goal, the US would probably need to stay there for at least sixty years, such that the entire adult population live their lives under US rule. Even then it might not work. I think the estimates were 150 - 300 years just to bring them into the 20th century. Mead posted... So much money spent but how many schools did they try to build? How many hospitals? About 18000 and 3000 respectively, all because of the West's involvement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schools_in_Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Afghanistan --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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