Poll of the Day > Looks like the update made things worse again

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Now, if someone blocks you, and someone else quotes them, you cant see their message anymore. Might as well stay logged out until you need to post
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ignoring and blocking people is dumb, what's the point of being obnoxious if no one can see it?

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That is how it is supposed to work Im pretty sure. If I have someone blocked I would rather they not see my posts, even if someone else is quoting me.

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Mead posted...

That is how it is supposed to work Im pretty sure. If I have someone blocked I would rather they not see my posts, even if someone else is quoting me.

Yeah. But I want to see post. Why should I have to log out to read post because someone else with thin skin got mad that I disagreed with them? I can understand not seeing their post (idiotic, but whatever), but now I cant see quotes post. That means topics are going to be a lot emptier now. If should only be for the person blocking to jot see quotes post. Nor the person being blocked
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If person A blocks me, and then person B thru F quotes them, now Im missing 6 post instead of one just because I didnt 100% agree with person A. I should still be able to see the posts from B thru F. If person G block person A, and then B thru F quotes person A, then I understand when person G cant see the posts
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hasnt it always worked that way? if you block someone, you wont see their posts no matter what, even if someone you havent blocked quotes them.

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LinkPizza posted...

Yeah. But I want to see post. Why should I have to log out to read post because someone else with thin skin got mad that I disagreed with them? I can understand not seeing their post (idiotic, but whatever), but now I cant see quotes post. That means topics are going to be a lot emptier now. If should only be for the person blocking to jot see quotes post. Nor the person being blocked

Because I should be able to have control over who I do or do not interact with on this website as much as possible. You can think Im thin skinned or sensitive and you probably arent wrong but I appreciate the feature. It might make the board frustrating for you to read at times but it helps some users avoid a lot of unnecessary hostility.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

hasnt it always worked that way? if you block someone, you wont see their posts no matter what, even if someone you havent blocked quotes them.

Nah, didn't work that way before. You'd see them in the quote of someone else's post.
Now I guess you could potentially have a shit load of posts missing, which is going to be pretty annoying.

Ideally if I hit the block button that poster should have a heart attack and die

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Kotenks posted...

can people who have blocked you, reply to your threads?

i dont think so, you can be linked to their topics but I dont think you can post

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

hasnt it always worked that way? if you block someone, you wont see their posts no matter what, even if someone you havent blocked quotes them.

Yeah. But if someone blocked me, I use to be able to see their post if someone quoted them in that quote. And now I cant. So it kind of sucks It also means if someone replies to me and the other person, I cant see the reply to me

Mead posted...

Because I should be able to have control over who I do or do not interact with on this website as much as possible. You can think Im thin skinned or sensitive and you probably arent wrong but I appreciate the feature. It might make the board frustrating for you to read at times but it helps some users avoid a lot of unnecessary hostility.

You should have control of who you interact with. But not who I interact with Which ignore worked well enough for since you couldnt see their posts, anyway. But block stops me from interacting with others. Especially if someone quotes both me and the person that blocked me And it makes it nearly impossible to read unless you log on and off constantly. And on certain boards, like the sex board, you would need an alt account to keep up since you can even read it without being logged in

Kotenks posted...

can people who have blocked you, reply to your threads?

They cant see your threads Unless a direct link, like Mead said
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LinkPizza posted...

You should have control of who you interact with. But not who I interact with Which ignore worked well enough for since you couldnt see their posts, anyway. But block stops me from interacting with others. Especially if someone quotes both me and the person that blocked me And it makes it nearly impossible to read unless you log on and off constantly. And on certain boards, like the sex board, you would need an alt account to keep up since you can even read it without being logged in

Ignore only effects what posts a user sees themselves. The block feature which has been positively received by many users effects who can see your own posts. If it makes the experience of using the boards and reading everything easily worse for you then that sucks and Im sorry that it has had that effect. But I also think that it has led to a lot of users being harassed and bullied less online(even if that cant be eliminated entirely) and I think that is more important.

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Mead posted...

Ignore only effects what posts a user sees themselves. The block feature which has been positively received by many users effects who can see your own posts. If it makes the experience of using the boards and reading everything easily worse for you then that sucks and Im sorry that it has had that effect. But I also think that it has led to a lot of users being harassed and bullied less online(even if that cant be eliminated entirely) and I think that is more important.

No. It doesnt help more than ignore. If anything, it makes block more like ignore. The only difference between the two at first was the blocked poster not being able to see the blockers posts (and not seeing topics of each other). That never stopped them from interacting with the blocker fully, though... It just meant the blocker couldnt see when they posted back. Which ignored already handled. The blocked poster could always log out to see the post, and still quote (old style) and respond. Now many more people are going to have to constantly log out just to keep up with conversations, and will be able to basically interact with posters who blocked them because theyll definitely see their posts now, where they might not have before since they could just talk to everybody else. But if the blocker is very invested on a conversation, or is posting a lot, the blocked poster will have to log out to see the conversation. Which would most likely mean they see the other blocker. And would actually cause more interaction between the two. The blocker cant see it, but they also couldnt if they had ignore. So, not real difference It basically makes block no more useful than ignore, and just slows down the topic

Even on the site suggestion board, it was used to stop people from disagreeing with their suggestions. One person blocked everyone that said anti-sign in their suggestion so they couldnt give reasons on why something was bad
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Ok, I literally can't see half of the posts in this topic just because one snowflake blocked me.
I'm annoyed, and going to get this off my chest.

Because I should be able to have control over who I do or do not interact with on this website as much as possible. You can think Im thin skinned or sensitive and you probably arent wrong but I appreciate the feature. It might make the board frustrating for you to read at times but it helps some users avoid a lot of unnecessary hostility.

I'm not even sure why the hell you blocked me, I barely interacted with you even before that point and have never bothered trying to since you did. But you're completely fucking wrong. I'm reading your post right now, it's as simple as right click --> open in new private window.

And as Link covered in another post I had to do that to see just b/c you were one of the multiple people he quoted:

You should have control of who you interact with. But not who I interact with Which ignore worked well enough for since you couldnt see their posts, anyway. But block stops me from interacting with others. Especially if someone quotes both me and the person that blocked me

It worked fine before. For whatever reason you were fine seeing posts from people you disagree w/ far more than me but not my own, and I just shrugged and moved on. Whatever, cool. No hostility.
But now you think it's fine to jack up my browsing significantly just because YOU can't handle seeing my posts or whatever.
Don't know if someone will quote this w/o citing me so you see it and frankly don't care either way. You're completely wrong, there's no good reason to so heavily restrict other people's browsing experiences, and posts like that are why I was never particularly bummed about no longer seeing your drivel. But I'd still like to see others' posts.

/rant

LinkPizza posted...

No. It doesnt help more than ignore.

It does for me. I personally appreciate the feature

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Mead posted...

It does for me. I personally appreciate the feature

It literally doesnt, though. Like the above poster. streamofthesky was able to see your post, and quote you. Which is no different than ignore. All it did was inconvenience him. But whether you had him on ignore or block wouldnt change that you didnt see his post
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LinkPizza posted...

It literally doesnt, though. Like the above poster. streamofthesky was able to see your post, and quote you. Which is no different than ignore. All it did was inconvenience him. But whether you had him on ignore or block wouldnt change that you didnt see his post

he had to log out to do it though I assume

thats a barrier of effort that I dont think many users are going to resort to very often, and if I wanted to get petty or pedantic about it, he is probably violating the site rules by quoting the message of a user who has blocked his account

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Mead posted...

That is how it is supposed to work Im pretty sure. If I have someone blocked I would rather they not see my posts, even if someone else is quoting me.

It should not, however, prevent people from seeing the post that quotes you, which it sounds like they've done. It's very, very common for posts that quote a given user to contain plenty of information beyond that quote, including quoting and responding to other users. Eliminate the quote, sure, but hiding the whole post just needlessly interferes with normal board use.

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Mead posted...

he had to log out to do it though I assume

thats a barrier of effort that I dont think many users are going to resort to very often, and if I wanted to get petty or pedantic about it, he is probably violating the site rules by quoting the message of a user who has blocked his account

No. He just open the page on private browsing, which opens the page logged out. Meaning he can see all post. He didnt even have to log out of you so it like that.

And if you think thatll stop people, youre very wrong. It actually causing them to do it more. If Im missing one post, I might not care to see it. And may just skip over. But if half the topic is empty, Ill almost definitely log out (or open a private browser) because I cant read a topic that way. This is more likely to have posters interacting more with the posters that blocked them. It may also result in more people making alts so they can read a topic without half of it being empty
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adjl posted...

It should not, however, prevent people from seeing the post that quotes you, which it sounds like they've done. It's very, very common for posts that quote a given user to contain plenty of information beyond that quote, including quoting and responding to other users. Eliminate the quote, sure, but hiding the whole post just needlessly interferes with normal board use.

I agree with this. At most, hide the quote. But dont hide the post. If I responded to both you and Stream, he wouldnt be able to see since you have him blocked even though I was responding directly to him. Same if I responded to the topic title, and also quotes you in the same post. It interferes with everybody. Now just the blocker and the blocked
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LinkPizza posted...

No. He just open the page on private browsing, which opens the page logged out. Meaning he can see all post. He didnt even have to log out of you so it like that.

And if you think thatll stop people, youre very wrong. It actually causing them to do it more. If Im missing one post, I might not care to see it. And may just skip over. But if half the topic is empty, Ill almost definitely log out (or open a private browser) because I cant read a topic that way. This is more likely to have posters interacting more with the posters that blocked them. It may also result in more people making alts so they can read a topic without half of it being empty

Ill have to think about this for a while, thank you for discussing it with me and giving me your perspective

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Mead posted...

Ill have to think about this for a while, thank you for discussing it with me and giving me your perspective

Yeah. No problem
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So, fun fact.

I can click on adjl's name in post 21 and still see the Mead post #3 he quoted, so the old "problem" is still there, just now it's two degrees of Kevin Bacon instead of 1.

This change is really stupid.

LinkPizza posted...

I agree with this. At most, hide the quote. But dont hide the post. If I responded to both you and Stream, he wouldnt be able to see since you have him blocked even though I was responding directly to him. Same if I responded to the topic title, and also quotes you in the same post. It interferes with everybody. Now just the blocker and the blocked

If you replied to both of us in the same post, neither of us would see it, lol

streamofthesky posted...

So, fun fact.

I can click on adjl's name in post 21 and still see the Mead post #3 he quoted, so the old "problem" is still there, just now it's two degrees of Kevin Bacon instead of 1.

This change is really stupid.

Yeah. They probably wont change that. Mostly because Im sure they would duck it worse, and probably break something, if they did

streamofthesky posted...

If you replied to both of us in the same post, neither of us would see it, lol

Which is an even bigger problem
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But now you think it's fine to jack up my browsing significantly just because YOU can't handle seeing my posts or whatever.

Ok now I am firmly back to thinking I am right in my thinking. This topic basically proves my point.

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Mead posted...

Ill have to think about this for a while, thank you for discussing it with me and giving me your perspective

There's really not much to think about. This is a stupid idea that's going to make browsing these boards even more of a hassle than it already is, while yielding little to no actual benefit. Again, blocking the quotes? Sure. GameFAQs' prehistoric forum architecture probably doesn't allow for that, but that's a reasonable expansion of the block system to allow it to more completely fulfill its original purpose. Blocking the post that contains the quote, though? If anything, that gives particularly active posters that are feeling extra petty the ability to chase people they don't like off the board entirely, since they can make most of any topic literally unreadable for that person just by blocking them and being quoted often. That's a far worse form of harassment than anything block might prevent.

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Mead posted...

Ok now I am firmly back to thinking I am right in my thinking. This topic basically proves my point.

How so? If only your post was missing, he may not have open private browsing to see it. But he said half the post were missing since my post quoting you were also missing. If anything, it proves more people will log out or open private browsing to see posts since their topics will be checkered, meaning more interaction between the blockers and the blocked
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I wouldnt have even known about his posts if they hadnt been referenced by other users

but if someone had quoted his posts, I would see them

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Mead posted...

I wouldnt have even known about his posts if they hadnt been referenced by other users

but if someone had quoted his posts, I would see them

That's what the ignore feature is for, not the block one.

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adjl posted...

That's what the ignore feature is for, not the block one.

but I dont want him to see my posts either

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How so? If only your post was missing, he may not have open private browsing to see it. But he said half the post were missing since my post quoting you were also missing. If anything, it proves more people will log out or open private browsing to see posts since their topics will be checkered, meaning more interaction between the blockers and the blocked

Yup.
Before I'd see a post or 2 missing, realize, "oh, must be a Mead post. Nothing of value was lost" and move on.
Now that I'm missing giant gaps of posts, I'm absolutely gonna check it. As mentioned, I could even be missing seeing posts directly quoting and responding to me.
This change CREATED the problem.

And that's literally the first and only time I'll ever quote Mead (which he has since done to me as well, which I want to point out b/c I know damn well he WILL be that pedantic and petty, if he hasn't already reported it).
I don't know why he's got such a delusional fucking victim complex, but I literally not once have ever quoted or replied to him since he blocked me, until now. Just to prove a point that his argument in favor of the change is a complete joke.

Mead posted...

but I dont want him to see my posts either

And with the original block, he might not have. He even confirmed that. But since half the post were missing, he was more likely to open private browsing to see the missing post, which he did.

But it also shouldnt matter. You should only control what you see. Not what other people see
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streamofthesky posted...

Yup.
Before I'd see a post or 2 missing, realize, "oh, must be a Mead post. Nothing of value was lost" and move on.
Now that I'm missing giant gaps of posts, I'm absolutely gonna check it. As mentioned, I could even be missing seeing posts directly quoting and responding to me.
This change CREATED the problem.

And that's literally the first and only time I'll ever quote Mead (which he has since done to me as well, which I want to point out b/c I know damn well he WILL be that pedantic and petty, if he hasn't already reported it).
I don't know why he's got such a delusional fucking victim complex, but I literally not once have ever quoted or replied to him since he blocked me, until now. Just to prove a point that his argument in favor of the change is a complete joke.

I think he would have to unblock you to do that. Not only that, but it doesnt even show who you quote. So, youd have to get a mod who might actually check. Not sure if they would, though. Though, he is reading your post, AFAIK
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LinkPizza posted...

You should only control what you see. Not what other people see

but we all do control what other people see when it comes to how we communicate and portray our thoughts

because we all have the choice to not say anything at all. I dont think that things are better when more and more people are pressured into that choice.

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LinkPizza posted...

Now, if someone blocks you, and someone else quotes them, you cant see their message anymore.

That's been a thing for ages.

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LinkPizza posted...

I think he would have to unblock you to do that. Not only that, but it doesnt even show who you quote. So, youd have to get a mod who might actually check. Not sure if they would, though. Though, he is reading your post, AFAIK

He has an alt, he was using it when his Mead account was banned or warned or whatever, and unless it's changed, he didn't have people blocked on that one.
I don't have any alts, so if/when he lashes out, I can't counter-report him for the same offense unless I stoop to his level and make an alt.
Making alts always seemed pretty distasteful to me, like a blatant middle finger to the moderation system that intended to keep you away for a while.

So yeah, this update unintentionally promotes a lot of crappy behavior...

Mead posted...

but we all do control what other people see when it comes to how we communicate and portray our thoughts

because we all have the choice to not say anything at all. I dont think that things are better when more and more people are pressured into that choice.

You only control what they see coming from you in that case. But now, you can control what they see from other peoples post since they cant see their post if they quote you and another person. And since not everybody has a list of who everybody else has blocked, itll make the boards a nightmare This makes everything worse

EvilMegas posted...

That's been a thing for ages.

No. Thats wrong. For example, Sarcasthma blocked me a couple months ago or so. While I cant see his posts, I could see his posts in quotes of other people if they quoted him. Now I cant
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Maybe GameFAQs should just hide posts at random to limit our exposure to shit takes

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LinkPizza posted...

This makes everything worse

not from my point of view

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streamofthesky posted...

He has an alt, he was using it when his Mead account was banned or warned or whatever, and unless it's changed, he didn't have people blocked on that one.
I don't have any alts, so if/when he lashes out, I can't counter-report him for the same offense unless I stoop to his level and make an alt.
Making alts always seemed pretty distasteful to me, like a blatant middle finger to the moderation system that intended to keep you away for a while.

So yeah, this update unintentionally promotes a lot of crappy behavior...

Oh. I meant to mention his alt could do it, too As long as his alt doesnt have you blocked, as well

Also, do you have to be logged in to report. I dont remember

That said, I agree it makes things worse, because people will now act worse because of it
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Mead posted...

not from my point of view

Yeah. Which doesnt actually make any sense. You just want to control what others see, when you shouldnt even have that option And make the boards and conversations hard to follow. And just make everything worse, for whatever reason. How does this make anything better for you? I havent heard one good thing this update does for the blockers. It makes it worse for them (and the blocked), if anything at all
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I could never use this site without the block feature. Imagine seeing the Full Throttle posts or many of the other garbage clogging up the stream. I dont know how some of you can stand it.

11110111011 posted...

I could never use this site without the block feature. Imagine seeing the Full Throttle posts or many of the other garbage clogging up the stream. I dont know how some of you can stand it.

You can use ignore to not see his topics, as well And because he rarely post (and only in his topics 99.99% of the time), ignore fully works for what you want. And the reason many can is because people actually talk in his topics. Not reason for most to block him. And honestly, its not hard to just scroll past topics I dont want to participate in
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LinkPizza posted...

Yeah. Which doesnt actually make any sense. You just want to control what others see, when you shouldnt even have that option And make the boards and conversations hard to follow. And just make everything worse, for whatever reason. How does this make anything better for you? I havent heard one good thing this update does for the blockers. It makes it worse for them (and the blocked), if anything at all

I feel like Ive explained how it benefits me, and in all likelihood many users on the site

you saw how quickly they recently reversed course when there actually was an overwhelmingly negative reaction to a change

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LinkPizza posted...

You can use ignore to not see his topics, as well And because he rarely post (and only in his topics 99.99% of the time), ignore fully works for what you want. And the reason many can is because people actually talk in his topics. Not reason for most to block him. And honestly, its not hard to just scroll past topics I dont want to participate in

link i've explained to you before why blocking is necessary and the ignore feature never did anything to stop harassment, something i think i definitely do know more than a lot of people about

you can argue about the quote thing and maybe you're not wrong but saying the block feature is not necessary is just plain wrong

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Mead posted...

but I dont want him to see my posts either

And that's what block is for, except now it stops him from seeing your posts AND the posts of anyone that quotes you. That takes block from "I just want him to leave me alone" (a legitimate way to deal with harassment problems) to "I want to actively impede his GameFAQs experience" (which is just petty and dumb).

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adjl posted...

And that's what block is for, except now it stops him from seeing your posts AND the posts of anyone that quotes you. That takes block from "I just want him to leave me alone" (a legitimate way to deal with harassment problems) to "I want to actively impede his GameFAQs experience" (which is just petty and dumb).

but I dont want him to see my posts, even if they are just being quoted by another user

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I believe it's been explained how most of those those things could be achieved with ignore or the original block without disturbing the boards even more. Or how block is actually making things worse for you since more people will probably log out or open private browsing, meaning you'll probably have more people that you blocked trying to interact with you since they'll now see you post. Like how if only your post were missing, Stream wouldn't have checked. But because half the topic was missing, he did...

And they probably haven't noticed yet. I only noticed because of one post on another board. But many may not have realized it yet. Or probably haven't figured out it's a change. Even EvilMegas thought it was always like this. And I'm sure the people who block people constantly like it. I mean, I think like three people blocked me because I disagreed with them. And one blocked me because I said anti-sign on their site-suggestion. They blocked everyone who said it. I'm sure people like that don't mind fucking up the forum for everyone else...
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LinkPizza posted...

Or how block is actually making things worse for you since more people will probably log out or open private browsing

I dont think there is much evidence of that beyond what I perceive as a small number of anecdotal experiences

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