Current Events > Damn, Nina Turner really got blown the fuck out in Ohio, didn't she?

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Sir Will
08/04/21 11:47:43 PM
#52:


garan posted...
Lol, so true. I gave up on them after they fucked over Bernie for such a lame piece of crap like Hillary.
Ah, so you contributed to Trump then.

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iPhone_7
08/05/21 12:19:45 AM
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A big help was James Clyburn going down to campaign for her opponent. He only got involved because Ninas camp was dissing on him.

Clyburn told Axios: "I had no plans to go to Cleveland or to get physically involved in the campaign until the Turner campaign invited me in."

Turner in June appeared onstage with Killer Mike at an economic justice town hall hosted by liberal group The Young Turks and agreed when he called Clyburn "incredibly stupid" for backing Biden. "That's the kind of BS that sent me to Cleveland," Clyburn said.

They ****ed around and found out. This is another win for the Biden-Harris agenda. Maybe leftists should try being a little less divisive

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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 12:55:24 AM
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I feel like we're definitely seeing a "progressive cycle" repeat itself over and over again with these elections.

  1. Pick the deepest blue districts in the country because it's the only place you'll have any hope of being competitive in.
  2. Pick a candidate who's comically bad at politics.
  3. Brag about the amount of enthusiasm behind your campaign because of all the money you're raising online and volunteers you've brought in from out of state even though none of these people can even vote in the election.
  4. Make absolutely no effort to understand your actual constituency, your entire platform is made up of what deranged people on Twitter think is cool.
  5. Spend your entire campaign attacking Democrats which is surely what Democratic primary voters want to hear.
  6. When you inevitably lose just go to the Trump playbook and claim the election was stolen from you. Although even Trump never blamed the Jews so progressives are way ahead of the curve here!


What's really funny is that they've spent the last 5 years getting their shit kicked in like this despite raising enormous amounts of money, while at the same time lecturing real Democrats about electability. These people want you to believe Biden and Manchin don't know how to beat Republicans, but some random grifter they pulled out of a DSA meeting who can't even win a D+30 district does.

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ElatedVenusaur
08/05/21 1:16:13 AM
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Indeed. Nothing is more divisive these days than honesty.

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Krojen
08/05/21 1:31:49 AM
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Broseph alt topic.

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Shablagoo
08/05/21 1:51:51 AM
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Krojen posted...
Broseph alt topic.

xD

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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 1:54:23 AM
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Krojen posted...
Broseph alt topic.

"everyone who disagrees with me is an alt and Nina only lost because the election was rigged by the jews" is a really good place to be mentally, keep it up
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Shablagoo
08/05/21 1:57:51 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Because this is the new playbook against progressives

The absurd idea that money has nothing to do with elections is such an abject, stupendously ludicrous lie, its no surprise Broseph and his ilk are trying to demonize anyone who says it isnt.

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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 1:59:22 AM
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maybe we're downplaying money because the person who raised the most just lost lmao
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Krojen
08/05/21 2:00:35 AM
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Hillary Clinton was the safest bet and most electable candidate, she was a moderate so Republicans would like her as the base abandons Trump. But those damn Russians rigged it by posting memes online against her (also online doesnt matter)

An analysis from the people that claim to be experts on electability.

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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 2:05:35 AM
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Hillary was the safest bet of the 2016 field, yes.

Would you like to compare moderates and progressives on electability? Because that's a game I'd really love to play.
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Krojen
08/05/21 2:22:22 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Hillary was the safest bet of the 2016 field, yes.

Yet her favorability massively trailed an old man with bad hair, posture, and policies you say no one likes.

Speaking of. Genuinely curious. The polls show med4all is very popular. The millions pouring into this race included attack ads and mailers lying that Turner doesnt support med4all.

You know something the smart money doesnt? Why would they waste money telling voters she doesnt support a policy you think is actually extremely unpopular?

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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 2:27:28 AM
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Krojen posted...
Yet her favorability massively trailed an old man with bad hair, posture, and policies you say no one likes.

What part of Bernie getting dunked on by both Hillary and Biden don't you seem to understand?

Krojen posted...
Speaking of. Genuinely curious. The polls show med4all is very popular. The millions pouring into this race included attack ads and mailers lying that Turner doesnt support med4all.

Ignoring how useless policy polling can be, M4A and universal healthcare are not the same thing.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/05/21 2:34:21 AM
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Spooking posted...
This is a quote by her after she lost:

"We couldnt overcome the influence of dark money" "We didn't lose this race, evil money manipulated and maligned this election."

Talk about a dog whistle. God damn, Nina.

Samurontai posted...
Literally just blatant anti-semitism lmao. That's something I'd expect a fucking alt-righter to say

Broseph_Stalin posted...
When you inevitably lose just go to the Trump playbook and claim the election was stolen from you. Although even Trump never blamed the Jews so progressives are way ahead of the curve here!
Interesting that you guys associate "darkness" and "evil money" with jews

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Krojen
08/05/21 3:39:50 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
What part of Bernie getting dunked on by both Hillary and Biden don't you seem to understand?

Ignoring how useless policy polling can be, M4A and universal healthcare are not the same thing.
I understand that Dem primaries differ from general elections. Lower turnout, older, managerial class, more trusting of Dem establishment, MSNBC punditry that votes for whoever they hear can win, not who they prefer (perceived best chance to beat Trump consistently ranked higher than getting their preferred policy)

If they drop to endorse the guy that won 3 straight by increasing margins, instead of the guy that needed those endorsements to save his 5th place campaign, itd be a different outcome. Dem voters were clearly moved by trust in endorsements and media, not policy.

Thats how Bernie can poll more favorably than his opponent and lose a primary. Thats how his policy can poll so well and lose a primary. Thats how Nina can have a massive lead erased and lose the primary. To say otherwise forces you to go full maga and say lol polls I disagree with are fake to make sense of your worldview.

Even after a year of bad faith attacks on med4all, no support from Dem leadership, it still polls extremely well, by big margins. Hard to lump that in with typical polls-are-useless memes.

And someone who supports med4all does support universal healthcare. Saying otherwise is a lie about policy.

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dj1200
08/05/21 3:51:09 AM
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Summary?

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iPhone_7
08/05/21 5:13:55 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Interesting that you guys associate "darkness" and "evil money" with jews
Well her supporters were oddly focusing their criticism on an American-Israeli Super PAC for Ninas loss. What do you think she meant by all that?

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ButteryMales
08/05/21 6:13:31 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Well her supporters were oddly focusing their criticism on an American-Israeli Super PAC for Ninas loss. What do you think she meant by all that?
She meant what it means. Like this is what babies figure out for themselves at the beginning of language.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_money

Does the DMFI disclose its donors?
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cjsdowg
08/05/21 6:30:43 AM
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She lost by 6% that isn't a blow out.

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sktgamer_13dude
08/05/21 10:16:48 AM
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Broseph is a prime example of how right-wing American policies are. The enlightened centrist who thinks progressives are basically communists when far left in the US is barely left on the global scale.

Hes a prime example of the establishment wanting the status quo and disingenuously bringing up progressive talking points. hur dur progressive policies arent popular is akin to saying Obamacare isnt popular but people love the ACA.

The policies are popular with everyone but the fucking establishment on both sides.
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ButteryMales
08/05/21 10:37:06 AM
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CHM_Punk posted...
You can tell who actually has any remotely decent social skills and has actually spoken to people about anything relating to politics IRL on this board, and outside of their echo chamber of awkward nerds on Reddit or Twitter lol. Progressive/Leftist politics is popular among people that make politics their whole identity that accomplish a whole lot of nothing. The every day sane American citizen that isnt dedicating 24-hours to politics that leans left have a favorable opinion of the establishment and of liberal establishment Democrat politicians. There is a reason why far-left Socialist loons like interloper Independent Bernie Sanders take Ls to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, and a reason why people laugh at far-left loons in the Green Party that seemingly exist to be useful idiot Russian propaganda assets.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz gave favoritism to Hillary and the super delegate count was out early.

Joe Biden bribed Pete Buttigieg with a cabinet position he's unqualified for.
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FortuneCookie
08/05/21 10:43:28 AM
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I keep reading the title as Ninja Turtle

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ButteryMales
08/05/21 10:44:40 AM
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CHM_Punk posted...
Posts like these pedaling tinfoil conspiracy theories
What part of being a Mayor makes Pete Buttigieg qualified for his cabinet position?
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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 11:09:39 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Broseph is a prime example of how right-wing American policies are. The enlightened centrist who thinks progressives are basically communists when far left in the US is barely left on the global scale.

haha I like that it's not enough for you guys to constantly prove how inept you are at American politics, you have to remind us you don't know anything about other countries as well.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
The policies are popular with everyone but the fucking establishment on both sides.

Don't forget voters!
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Broseph_Stalin
08/05/21 11:18:48 AM
#81:


Krojen posted...
I understand that Dem primaries differ from general elections.

The general electorate is not to the left of Democratic primary voters lol, but that's a fun coping mechanism socialist like to use every time they lose a primary.

Krojen posted...
If they drop to endorse the guy that won 3 straight by increasing margins

...Bernie lost Iowa and tied with Pete in NH. It's crazy how little difference there is arguing with progressives and Trump supporters, both make use of the big lie so often. There is no possible situation in which they could be wrong, they will simply deny reality instead.

Anyway there is no more accurate poll than an election and if your definition of electability has to completely ignore them you should probably stop talking.
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Krojen
08/05/21 1:47:49 PM
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The polling data says progressive policies are popular, specifically with voters, and by large margins. Florida voted for $15, Mississippi voted for legal med weed, etc then voted for Trump same day, who supports nothing, but the culture war they rock with. (But you think maga hats are scholars pouring over Trumps detailed policies)

You have to ignore all data that clearly explains voter behavior and say its instead because voters are carefully weighing the details of each policy from the candidates as their decision maker. Even centrist strategists would laugh you out of the building with this theory.

It's crazy how little difference there is arguing with centrists and Trump supporters, both make use of all the polling data is fake. There is no possible situation in which they could be wrong, they will simply deny reality instead.

The general electorate doesnt care who Clyburn endorses. Endorsements decided the primary. Hes literally called the kingmaker.

**The guy who got the most votes by increasing margins in the first 3 contests. I thought you only cared about votes. Thats why I included it as such. I guess you switch based on whatever you need to continue your beliefs.

If you have to ignore all polling data to justify your narrative you should probably stop talking.

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Krojen
08/05/21 1:55:53 PM
#83:


ButteryMales posted...
Debbie Wasserman Schultz gave favoritism to Hillary and the super delegate count was out early.

Joe Biden bribed Pete Buttigieg with a cabinet position he's unqualified for.

Yang also later explained why he endorsed Biden while he was only praising Bernie on Twitter the same day. He said Biden called him with offerings in exchange. Yang is a novice who didnt realize he was admitting to a crime. Probably because the crime is so common.

But, ya know, college humor YouTube video jajajaja

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sktgamer_13dude
08/05/21 2:23:38 PM
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Mississippi literally voted for marijuana and their legislators said lol nope.

Get your head out of the sand. People were bashing Obamacare yet praised the ACA in the same fucking breath. When you actually explain what the shit is and dont use buzz words like hur dur socialism and whatnot, the policies are actually popular.

The establishment doesnt want to change any of that shit though because the people who lobby them dont want it changed.

But please Broseph, continue to prove me right with your hur dur enlightened centralist bullshit. Youre no better than Pelosi/Schumer/McConnell.
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Alpha218
08/05/21 2:28:48 PM
#85:


iPhone_7 posted...
A big help was James Clyburn going down to campaign for her opponent. He only got involved because Ninas camp was dissing on him.

They ****ed around and found out. This is another win for the Biden-Harris agenda. Maybe leftists should try being a little less divisive
Yeah this is why I dont like Turner. That is how an online troll engages people, not someone who seriously wants a seat at the table. Shes always been a Sanders supporter thats rubbed me the wrong way

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Krojen
08/05/21 2:44:44 PM
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Clyburn has taken far more bribes from the private healthcare insurance industry than any of his peers, is still throwing a fit at Biden for not directing enough donors to his daughters super pac for an endorsement, and campaigns all over the country in D+infinity seats to make sure we get the most conservative person as possible there.

But please dont be mean by refusing to kiss his feet :(

Centrists fetish for civility sure is something.

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Alpha218
08/05/21 2:49:41 PM
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I am a progressive that doesnt like Nina Turner

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IronWolf87
08/05/21 3:14:20 PM
#88:


Americans hate progressive policies! They want slow, gradual and measured change that doesn't uproot society.

Americans: Let's uproot society to install a fascist dictatorship!
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Krojen
08/05/21 3:23:08 PM
#89:


Alpha218 posted...
I am a progressive that doesnt like Nina Turner
I get Ninas volume is off putting for certain people, but Clyburn abrasively bashes progressives on TV and sometimes even Biden for, in his view, giving us too many concessions. Like this isnt some troll going after a nice dude.


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Delirious_Beard
08/05/21 3:45:51 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
I am a progressive that doesnt like Nina Turner

seriously, she's awful

i find it very concerning that there are people who will throw their lot in with completely terrible "progressive" candidates just to stick it to so-called establishment dems. if your entire political ideology is based on spitefulness, you don't really believe in anything


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