Current Events > For the first time ever scientists witness chimps killing gorillas

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https://gizmodo.com/for-the-first-time-ever-scientists-witness-chimps-kill-1847330442

The first encounter, lasting for 52 minutes, happened on February 6, 2019, and it occurred after a territorial patrol during which the males made a deep incursion into a neighbouring chimpanzee territory, according to the study.

At the first encounter, when we heard the initial chimpanzee screams, we actually thought our chimps had bumped into another group of chimpanzees, Lara Southern, a PhD student at Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology and first author of the study, explained in an email. It was only when we heard the first chest beat, a sound which only gorillas make, that we knew something different was about to happen.

A group of 27 chimps attacked five gorillastwo male silverbacks, two adult females, and one infant. The gorillas tried to defend themselves with physical force, intimidating body postures, and threatening gestures, but to no avail. The four adults managed to escape, but the infant, separated from its mother, did not survive. Several chimps were wounded during the battle, including a serious injury endured by an adolescent female.

The second lethal encounter, on December 11, 2019, lasted nearly 80 minutes and was very similar to the first, involving chimps from the same community. In this attack, 27 chimps attacked a group of seven gorillas, leaving yet another infant gorilla dead. In the first encounter, the killed infant was left alone, but the infant in the second encounter was almost entirely consumed by one adult chimpanzee female, the study noted.

In both cases, once the first chimpanzee who saw the gorillas let out an alarm bark or scream, the majority of other group members reacted immediately and joined in, all barking together, noted Southern. The chimpanzees then worked together to single out certain gorillas, and in both events they were able to separate the baby gorillas from their mother.

Jessica Mayhew, a biological anthropologist at Central Washington University, said primates adopt different strategies to navigate both intragroup and intergroup conflict and that chimps and gorillas exhibit very different approaches in this regard.

If you study chimpanzees, you come to expect that any squabble can quickly turn lethal, which is a testament to their excitability but also their incredible speed and power, Mayhew, who wasnt involved in the study, explained in an email. However, having this expectation doesnt make a lethal outcome any easier to witness. Life for a young gorilla is quite dangerousinfant mortality is highand this study again highlights their vulnerability within a group even with a formidable silverback as a dad.

Frightening
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chimps is crazy

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Chimps are pretty much what happens if you take the awfulness of humanity and form it into an animal.

Give them modern weaponry and they're committing genocide across the whole damn jungle.

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Scientists one step closer to stopping the Planet of the apes

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When I first started learning about chimps, I remember thinking those people who keep them as pets were either very stupid or completely delusional. Constrictors and tigers also seem super risky.

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I remember when I was younger, I was talking to my dad about what we learned about chimpanzees, about how they can form hunting parties to hunt small monkeys, and how they can plan out murders against other chimps.

he was disgusted, because like most people, if you don't know about chimpanzees, the idea that can do all of these terrible things, so similar to us, doesn't really cross their mind.

anyway, not long after that, I caught him watching nature specials on chimps, lol.

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So I guess this answers who would win between 30 chimps and 10 gorillas.

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it says they only killed the baby ones. An adult gorilla is even stronger than a chimp

Ape not kill ape.

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joe rogan incoming.

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Bryfang posted...

Diddy ain't taking Donkey's shit no more.

Diddy isnt a chimp.

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Chimps are crazy

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spikethedevil posted...

Diddy isnt a chimp.

He's a pimp.

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ape together strong

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chimps are not to be fucked with.

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Bonobos wouldn't do this heinous act.

Not all chimps

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billcom6 posted...

ape together strong

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Bonobos wouldn't do this heinous act.

If you split humanity into good and evil along genetic lines, Bonobos got all the good parts and Chimpanzees got all the evil parts.

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lww99 posted...

chimps are not to be fucked with.

They aren't so tough when they zerg. They win when it's like 4:1 or 3:1. My gorilla buddy is getting fed up and says the chimps better watch themselves.

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I fucking hate chimps.

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They were coexisting peacefully less than a decade ago. Climate change did this.

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Verdekal posted...

So I guess this answers who would win between 30 chimps and 10 gorillas.

Not exactly. 7 vs 27 ain't exactly the same as 10 vs 30. Especially when 1 of the 7 is a baby and the other are preoccupied with defending said baby. Replace that with 10 apes ready to throw down and you just might have a movie.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

If you split humanity into good and evil along genetic lines, Bonobos got all the good parts and Chimpanzees got all the evil parts.

I've read that this was caused by the two evolving separately across a river. On one side of the river, resources were abundant and competition wasn't very high (where the Bonobos evolved). On the other side, resources were scarce and it was a harsher environment (where the chimps evolved).

Weird to think two evolutionary branches stemming from a geographic barrier, but I suppose that's how evolution works!

i never liked chimps, they are jerks

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ACAB

Bryfang posted...

Whenever I don't see him for days at a time, I Google his name to see if the tiger finally got him.

I dont know him, but I hope he does not get eaten. Thats one of my nightmare scenarios, but it usually involves a shark.

g0ldie posted...

anyway, not long after that, I caught him watching nature specials on chimps, lol.

Lol, Im the same way. Ill watch chimp vids whenever theyre recommended. Their lives in the wild are so damn interesting.

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This reminds me of Tarzan.

In the novel, there are tribal feuds between different types of ape.

unnamedsoldier posted...

it says they only killed the baby ones. An adult gorilla is even stronger than a chimp

gorillas are far stronger and more resilient too. A gorilla would beat a chimp in a 1 on 1 fight.

chimps are more vicious and violent though. A chimp with the power of a gorilla would solo several of the latter

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I started disliking chimps when one ate some lady before being killed by police

Begun, this ape war has

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BettyWhite posted...

Chimps are pretty much what happens if you take the awfulness of humanity and form it into an animal.

Give them modern weaponry and they're committing genocide across the whole damn jungle.

Humans are primal instincts given tools and mind capable of utter destruction. It's the reverse.

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but the infant in the second encounter was almost entirely consumed by one adult chimpanzee female, the study noted.

God damn.
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Those gorillas came to the wrong neighborhood.

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billcom6 posted...

ape together strong

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chimpin' aint easy

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