Current Events > LOL our entire pharmacy is quitting

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hockeybub89 posted...

Yeah, CVS and 2 of my co-workers are going to Costco. I have applications there and at hospitals so far

If you get in let us know so I can tag you as Costco. I'm making 29.75 as a supervisor here plus bonuses every 6 months. I'm assuming y'all get more though so let me know what it is so I can be bitter about it lol

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hockeybub89 posted...

CVS retail. Just got a pretty tiny raise and yup, skeleton crew here too

CVS are notoriously stingy and very, uh, republican in their policies. The entire industry is paying more now lol

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steveoSEK posted...

CVS are notoriously stingy and very, uh, republican in their policies. The entire industry is paying more now lol

There was literally jackhammering going on at the Pharmacy of my CVS last night.
They said it was some plumming issue. >_>
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DM is literally trying to gaslight people and say CVS has always tried to resolve our issues. Still being deliberately vague when anyone asks about more hours.

Lead tech was told she should reconsider her Costco offer because "the grass won't be greener" and she'll lose her 3 weeks of vacation and be without health insurance temporarily. That was the big sell.

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But Costco will 100% take care of her better in the long run

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Lets be honest, and realistic here. They won't because they can't. lol

Correct. A lot of people can't start their own business. Great observation, Sherlock.
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hockeybub89 posted...

DM is literally trying to gaslight people and say CVS has always tried to resolve our issues. Still being deliberately vague when anyone asks about more hours.

Lead tech was told she should reconsider her Costco offer because "the grass won't be greener" and she'll lose her 3 weeks of vacation and be without health insurance temporarily. That was the big sell.

I thought it was federally mandated that vacation is paid out if an employee resigns?

Ruvan22 posted...

I thought it was federally mandated that vacation is paid out if an employee resigns?

Nope. When Best Buy laid us all off, we had to use up our vacation days to get paid for them.

Certain states might require it, though.

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hockeybub89 posted...

DM is literally trying to gaslight people and say CVS has always tried to resolve our issues. Still being deliberately vague when anyone asks about more hours.

Lead tech was told she should reconsider her Costco offer because "the grass won't be greener" and she'll lose her 3 weeks of vacation and be without health insurance temporarily. That was the big sell.

I'd quit if I were her. she can make that back and not be as stresses

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If you have to threaten your employees, it's a sign you don't have anything to offer them.

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If any of yall live in St. Louis and are looking for a new pharmacy. , my family has used Dierbergs for years, and never had any problems. They even cold called me recently to see if I needed a refill on a prescription( I didnt). The pharmacy was recently taken over by Mercy, but the customer service hasnt suffered.

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Ruvan22 posted...

I thought it was federally mandated that vacation is paid out if an employee resigns?

I think he was saying in general she won't have 3 weeks when she goes to Costco because she'll be new. No shit?

Big whoop. I came back from vacation 2 days ago and I'm already wishing I was off again. Time off doesn't help you when shit is still overwhelming 24/7.

"New jobs have an adjustment period and you'll need to build your vacation back up" is not really an argument why someone should stay.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Lead tech was told she should reconsider her Costco offer because "the grass won't be greener" and she'll lose her 3 weeks of vacation and be without health insurance temporarily. That was the big sell

Costco gives coverage to all full timers I think. After 3 months for part timers and per diem workers. It's 40 bucks a month, 6 for dental.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I think he was saying in general she won't have 3 weeks when she goes to Costco because she'll be new. No shit?

I'm also not sure that's true either since she won't be a basic employee. Might not be 3 weeks to start but I think she'd get vacation time.

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Seems like turnover is the highest in summer..

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Unfortunately as long as there are urban areas that are saturated with pharmacists, individual action is not enough to fight the abuse.

Just as there are those of us who missed out on PS5, there are going to be those of us who are the last tech on the floor.

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hockeybub89 posted...

DM is literally trying to gaslight people and say CVS has always tried to resolve our issues. Still being deliberately vague when anyone asks about more hours.

Lead tech was told she should reconsider her Costco offer because "the grass won't be greener" and she'll lose her 3 weeks of vacation and be without health insurance temporarily. That was the big sell.

This would make me quit even harder. The people at the top know all the complaints but choose to ignore them to help the bottom line. And its genuinely hilarious that theyre trying to say that Costco, one of the most admired retail employers out there, wouldnt be better than CVS.

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Solid Sonic posted...

Is our society shifting away from the notion of "be grateful you have a job"?

Lets hope

Bro, this shit is insane.

Today, we never had more than 2 techs and a pharmacist and I was alone with the pharmacist for the last 3 hours. Wr had 5-8 phone calls on hold consistently for an hour.

But supposedly we're plenty well-staffed to handle counting drugs, helping customers both inside and outside, answering the phones, and doing the non-customer facing shit that needs to be done.

We haven't even done our daily return-to-stocks for 4 days because that is a task that should now be done by a pharmacist before opening or after closing. This shit used to get done without an issue when we had goddamn hours. It's so sad.

And now it's the weekend and instead of it being a chance to get other things done, we'll just continue drowning in our eternally backed-up production queue in between helping customers. Oh, and corporate will demand answers if we don't find the time to do our weekend marketing calls to patients.

A co-worker described it today as "an endless waking nightmare"

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Quit

place is diarrhea

What_ posted...

Quit

place is diarrhea

Just started applying to places this week, so I'm stuck for a minute.

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Just walk into other pharmacies and ask for an app. I know that's a boomer meme but it's worked for me before when I had a miserable job.

Hell, there might even be other jobs that pay as much.

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The sad thing about corporate people, is that they genuinely think cutting hours and staff and giving you more work with no extra pay is a reward

hockeybub89 posted...

Bro, this shit is insane.

Today, we never had more than 2 techs and a pharmacist and I was alone with the pharmacist for the last 3 hours. Wr had 5-8 phone calls on hold consistently for an hour.

But supposedly we're plenty well-staffed to handle counting drugs, helping customers both inside and outside, answering the phones, and doing the non-customer facing shit that needs to be done.

We haven't even done our daily return-to-stocks for 4 days because that is a task that should now be done by a pharmacist before opening or after closing. This shit used to get done without an issue when we had goddamn hours. It's so sad.

And now it's the weekend and instead of it being a chance to get other things done, we'll just continue drowning in our eternally backed-up production queue in between helping customers. Oh, and corporate will demand answers if we don't find the time to do our weekend marketing calls to patients.

A co-worker described it today as "an endless waking nightmare"

Did they issue new uniforms for the floor staff as well. I noticed that.

There is certainly some fuckers uptop trying to cash in on Covid.
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hockeybub89 posted...

We haven't even done our daily return-to-stocks for 4 days because that is a task that should now be done by a pharmacist before opening or after closing. This shit used to get done without an issue when we had goddamn hours. It's so sad.

I assume the pharmacist is doing that on unpaid time? At least if its anything like Walgreens, your time paid begins the second the pharmacy opens and ends the second it closes.

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ssk9716757 posted...

I assume the pharmacist is doing that on unpaid time? At least if its anything like Walgreens, your time paid begins the second the pharmacy opens and ends the second it closes.

That may be the case and it seems very shitty.

SiO4 posted...

Did they issue new uniforms for the floor staff as well. I noticed that.

There is certainly some fuckers uptop trying to cash in on Covid.

I'm not sure. I'm seeing a lot of red now, but things are such a blur that I definitely can't track when front store changed uniforms.

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This short staffing trend is going to have to stop. Its clearly giving the customer a horrible experience and this is textbook workplace abuse.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I'm not sure. I'm seeing a lot of red now, but things are such a blur that I definitely can't track when front store changed uniforms.

Ya, they totally made that push.

It was so conspicuous the other day, that is, if you weren't distracted by the jackhammering in the Pharmacy Department.

Also their bags have gone to shit....and there was a new overnight manager there.

~Something is going on up top....it's a shit show, I can tell.

My guess is, and I've seen this before, things went well for them for the last year or so....so they thought they were hot shit, and now they are making changes that don't make sense. They won't go under, because it is a Drug Store. But somebody, somewhere is making ripples where they don't need to be made.
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PesticideDream posted...

The sad thing about corporate people, is that they genuinely think cutting hours and staff and giving you more work with no extra pay is a reward

Capitalist brain is legit deranged

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Gwynevere posted...

Capitalist brain is legit deranged

unfortunately it kinda has to be or else it wouldnt be capitalism

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Payzmaykr posted...

This short staffing trend is going to have to stop. Its clearly giving the customer a horrible experience and this is textbook workplace abuse.

Someone forgot to dispense 5 of 6 boxes of insulin to a patient. That kind of oversight never happened before.

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hockeybub89 posted...

We haven't even done our daily return-to-stocks for 4 days because that is a task that should now be done by a pharmacist before opening or after closing

Lolwat why

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DezDroppedFreak posted...

Lolwat why

Because we nEeD tO sTaY aT pRoDuCtIoN

They want the pharmacist to do literally everything so the tech hours we don't have can be spent solely on production, which doesn't get done because what the fucking fuck. No one is gonna let the lines in and outside the store wrap around the building, and the phone blow up, to stand and count pills. They need to provide the hours.

They are still under the impression that weekends are slow and that we aren't doing 500 scripts a day with the staffing budget of a 100 script store.

Corporate crunched the numbers and our DM can point to the graphs and show us that things should be able to get done.

In March, our metrics score was a perfect 100. It's sub 50 now. I guess we all just got really stupid or something and can't do our jobs like we used to. No other explanation

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A friend of mine, who is a very learned gentleman....and I mean that just posted this on facebook.
He's honestly the best well-spoken person I know. I was the spokesperson for GE for years...

Anyway, this is what he posted.
Ya, someone in CVS is fucking up.....up top..


Thanks, CVS!
Your Rx H is available for pickup at 34 CONGRESS ST., SARATOGA SPRI.
Questions? 518-587-3098. Reply 'HELP' for help
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Quit on the spot. See if they offer a raise to prevent the store from having no staff.

Thaumaturge posted...

Quit on the spot. See if they offer a raise to prevent the store from having no staff.

No. This is the country that fired the air traffic controllers. It took 10 years to get staffing up to previous levels and these were the levels that forced the previous controllers to strike at risk of losing their jobs.

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CobraGT posted...

No. This is the country that fired the air traffic controllers. It took 10 years to get staffing up to previous levels and these were the levels that forced the previous controllers to strike at risk of losing their jobs.

So... Keep working in the abusive environment? That's your advice?

I can't afford to quit, but there's a possibility I could at least be moving to a store in another district along with everyone else still at our store. That would be a decent stopgap if my applications strike out.

I've heard lots of chatter that people have been lodging anonymous complaints directly to the board of pharmacy. Trying to trigger an investigation like is going on in Ohio and Missouri.


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Payzmaykr posted...

This short staffing trend is going to have to stop. Its clearly giving the customer a horrible experience and this is textbook workplace abuse.

yet they fucking dare talk about a labor shortage

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My PIC's wife is a long-time employee of the company. She crunched the numbers and found that her store had TRIPLE the hours 4-5 years ago. It has to be a similar case here based on my experience. And we do a good 100-150 more scripts a day than we did back then.

DM said that we are "almost" a high volume store, yet we are given some of the least hours in his entire district and he demands PIC explain, in writing, why we were 5 hours over budget two weeks ago.

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hockeybub89 posted...

and he demands PIC explain, in writing, why we were 5 hours over budget two weeks ago.

I'd tell him "Cause fuck you that's why" and walk out.

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Flockaveli posted...

I'd tell him "Cause fuck you that's why" and walk out.

PIC basically did this today on the phone and quit on the spot.

He was told that we should be grateful how much effort (read: removed one pharmacist who was "too slow" and nothing else) has gone into fixing the pharmacy specifically. And that "no other store is struggling with their amount of hours", which is funny because we literally had a floating technician here who works at stores worse than us every day. That's literally her job.

DM's assistant called us this morning to ask PIC why we hadn't caught up 3 hours after opening since they were so generous to give us extra hands to bail us out again.

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My foot has been bothering me and I was toughing it out until my podiatrist appointment, but fuck it, I'm taking a paid day tomorrow and I'll empty out my vacation if I need some time off.

I had a good conversation with a customer I know who knows the right people at the one hospital I applied to. I'm optimistic.

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TC, are you a tech or pharmacist? If youre just a tech, you honestly probably arent making enough to justify not outright quitting even if you dont have another job lined up yet.

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AvlButtslam posted...

TC, are you a tech or pharmacist? If youre just a tech, you honestly probably arent making enough to justify not outright quitting even if you dont have another job lined up yet.

Tech. Fuck it. I have 69 hours of vacation left. If my podiatrist writes me a doctor's note on Wednesday, I can milk that first.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Tech. Fuck it. I have 69 hours of vacation left. If my podiatrist writes me a doctor's note on Wednesday, I can milk that first.

They dont say it out if you leave? My job did that and Im a Pharmacy Tech too

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DepreceV2 posted...

They dont say it out if you leave? My job did that and Im a Pharmacy Tech too

Oh I guess that's true. Ehh we'll see how quickly my job prospects turn up good.

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hockeybub89 posted...

My foot has been bothering me and I was toughing it out until my podiatrist appointment, but fuck it, I'm taking a paid day tomorrow and I'll empty out my vacation if I need some time off.

I had a good conversation with a customer I know who knows the right people at the one hospital I applied to. I'm optimistic.

Ya, I just got cancelled at one of my jobs...there is an issue going on there. I won't get into their reasons, but I know it's bull.

I quite literally have a reference in my back pocket...of those work pants...as I had two jobs, that urged me to leave a few weeks ago.

Maybe for the better, but I would like to go like a week or two without some kind of mind-blowing life change.

I feel less worried and more betrayed.

Long story short, they completely overworked my manager, she kinda had a breakdown..she either left or was let go.
I, being one of her hires, was let go as well...on questionable terms. ((They brought in one of their investors to 'help out'))~Do the math on that.

That place is shooting itself in the foot, and they probably won't make it. There were signs of that before I left. I could get a shit job, but kinda fun job tomorrow if I wanted to that would take me through the summer. Shit because it doesn't pay....fun because, it's a fun job.

And anyway, I still have my backup job, and they still like me.
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