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pegusus123456 posted...

Yeah, I don't think it's ever made super clear, but I definitely got the impression that Korra would absolutely murder a dude.

I'd believe it. A lot of Aang's hesitation came from him being an Air Nomad after all. His past lives also seemed to be okay with killing as a whole, including a former Air Nomad, so it might just be an Aang thing.


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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Just remember that shit aired on daytime Nickelodeon.

Damn. I'm glad they allowed it to happen.

I'm glad these are made for kids. Kids shows use death a lot more sparingly than the more mature shows do a lot of times. When death happens on these shows, it's impact feels greater.

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The worst part about Korra is not that it stands in the shadow of its legendary predecessor, but that all the parts are there to make another great show but they just don't come together at all.

Not to mention that TLA references feel forced sometimes like "OMG guys remember TLA??"

Korra is not as crucial of a plot element as Aang was. The avatar is not needed in the new world. Korra doesn't have a struggle like Aang did. Korra is like Rey from the new trilogy where she's just good at everything out of nowhere compared to Luke or Aang where you really see them struggle with their powers, the role of having power, and are with them until mastery. The other characters stay one note most of the time, instead of sometimes dipping into real talk, coming to terms with the world, breaking things with humor, or serious introspection. They are just bland. Some of the better characters make it nice, like Tenzin, his kids, and Lin Beifong.

The cool thing about the show is to see how bending would progress. There are more alternate styles of bending realized and bending is used as a part of society like infrastructure and technology.

Season 1 has one of the best villains I've seen in anything maybe, but the payoff was so shitty compared to the build up.

Season 2 has a two episode side thing on the first Avatar named Wan, those are cool. Everything else is boring, I didn't even finish it.

Season 3 was alright.

I'm not even sure if there's a season 4 lol

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Master Kazuya posted...

Korra doesn't have a struggle like Aang did. Korra is like Rey from the new trilogy where she's just good at everything out of nowhere compared to Luke or Aang where you really see them struggle with their powers, the role of having power, and are with them until mastery

People say this a lot and I think it is absolute bullshit. Everything else aside, the notion that she mastered everything out of nowhere is just silly. She was raised as a traditional Avatar. She was taught and mastered three of the four elements before the series.

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@PiOverlord

Korra is a sad wreck of a show but the train wreck happens at the beginning I am afraid.

The first two seasons of Korra are flaming garbage. After that the second two seasons are actually amazing.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

Terrible except for the parts about Wan

Oh yeah his one or two part episode was great.

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pegusus123456 posted...

People say this a lot and I think it is absolute bullshit. Everything else aside, the notion that she mastered everything out of nowhere is just silly. She was raised as a traditional Avatar. She was taught and mastered three of the four elements before the series.

The avatar state. Aang has to be in some insane situation to activate it and the show makes it clear that it's incredibly taxing and in some ways scary for Aang because he loses control of who he is. Korra just has a 5 minute convo with Aang and she's good to go.

You're right that she doesn't need to build from the ground up like Aang did, but in a show where your use of powers relates to who you are, someone who just has things down isn't as interesting. Even the powerful benders getting usurped has significance. Tenzin being pushed to use his bending to the fullest feels like a significant moment because you see his amazing ability being tested. Nobody is saying that we need to see Tenzin start from scratch. It's just about how the show utilizes their ability.

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Master Kazuya posted...

The avatar state. Aang has to be in some insane situation to activate it and the show makes it clear that it's incredibly taxing and in some ways scary for Aang because he loses control of who he is. Korra just has a 5 minute convo with Aang and she's good to go.

That's because Aang explicitly sucks at it lol. I'm pretty sure Korra explicitly got the theoretical training for the spiritual side of things, she just couldn't connect to it.

Master Kazuya posted...

You're right that she doesn't need to build from the ground up like Aang did, but in a show where your use of powers relates to who you are, someone who just has things down isn't as interesting. Even the powerful benders getting usurped has significance. Tenzin being pushed to use his bending to the fullest feels like a significant moment because you see his amazing ability being tested. Nobody is saying that we need to see Tenzin start from scratch. It's just about how the show utilizes their ability.

Just because she mastered her bending doesn't mean she doesn't have her own struggles though. This is one complaint I've just never gotten. TLA was entirely about learning the other elements - and let's be honest, there wasn't that much time spent watching Aang struggle with learning that - so I don't know why everyone wanted Korra to be the same.

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PiOverlord posted...

But I'm admittedly a soft-heart and will feel so sad seeing all of Team Avatar so old or dead. The ending was so sweet that I don't want tragedy to sour it.

Ha, they're all dead, except Toph. Hell, Aang and Katara's firstborn is an old lady at the start of the series. How the hell is Toph still alive?

Thaumaturge posted...

Ha, they're all dead, except Toph. Hell, Aang and Katara's firstborn is an old lady at the start of the series. How the hell is Toph still alive?

but Katara is alive...

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Korra has it's moments. Just don't expect a bunch of lighthearted TLA stuff the fans loved outside of a few references.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Yeah, I don't think it's ever made super clear, but I definitely got the impression that Korra would absolutely murder a dude.

There's a part in S2 where they show she'd definitely kill someone.
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Master Kazuya posted...

Korra is not as crucial of a plot element as Aang was. The avatar is not needed in the new world. Korra doesn't have a struggle like Aang did. Korra is like Rey from the new trilogy where she's just good at everything out of nowhere compared to Luke or Aang where you really see them struggle with their powers, the role of having power, and are with them until mastery.

This isn't the first time I've seen this take, and it never fails to be complete horseshit, to the point where I question whether the person spreading it actually watched either show.

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masterpug53 posted...

This isn't the first time I've seen this take, and it never fails to be complete horseshit, to the point where I question whether the person spreading it actually watched the show.

For real, lol

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TC, you should just bounce on this topic and watch the series. You're just going to get spoiled.

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masterpug53 posted...

This isn't the first time I've seen this take, and it never fails to be complete horseshit, to the point where I question whether the person spreading it actually watched either show.

If you think it's total horseshit, maybe you're the one who hasn't seen the show

See how dumb it is to say stuff like that? Lol
It's arguing without doing any groundwork

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Master Kazuya posted...

If you think it's total horseshit, maybe you're the one who hasn't seen the show

See how dumb it is to say stuff like that? Lol
It's arguing without doing any groundwork

One of Aang's defining traits is that he is a true bending prodigy, to the point where an entire episode's plot revolves around Katara's jealousy over his natural talent and ease over which he learns new bending techniques. Other characters comment over the series on how Aang often coasts on raw talent and doesn't take his training seriously. His greatest struggle with bending is learning Earthbending, and that hurdle is overcome in the span of a single episode. Aang literally masters his three non-innate elements in a fraction of the time it takes his predecessors / successor.

On the other hand, Korra struggles with Airbending for an entire season before producing a single blast of air. She spends the majority of her life training in the other three elements, and over the entire course of the series barely even touches Aang's level of raw power and talent.

There's simply no argument for you to make here. Your view is horseshit because it is the exact opposite of what both shows present. You might as well have said that Zuko is the most gifted and talented of Ozai's children and Azula has to struggle and scrape by the whole series, it would be no less accurate an observation. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by insinuating that you haven't actually watched the shows, because otherwise you're trolling, or have an ulterior agenda.

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Thaumaturge posted...

Ha, they're all dead, except Toph. Hell, Aang and Katara's firstborn is an old lady at the start of the series. How the hell is Toph still alive?

Bumi's like 112 and still kicking ass in TLA, so it's not like it's unprecedented.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Bumi's like 112 and still kicking ass in TLA, so it's not like it's unprecedented.

Kyoshi lived well into her 200's. Age truly is nothing but a number in the Avatarverse.

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masterpug53 posted...

One of Aang's defining traits is that he is a true bending prodigy, to the point where an entire episode's plot revolves around Katara's jealousy over his natural talent and ease over which he learns new bending techniques. Other characters comment over the series on how Aang often coasts on raw talent and doesn't take his training seriously. His greatest struggle with bending is learning Earthbending, and that hurdle is overcome in the span of a single episode. Aang literally masters his three non-innate elements in a fraction of the time it takes his predecessors / successor.

On the other hand, Korra struggles with Airbending for an entire season before producing a single blast of air. She spends the majority of her life training in the other three elements, and over the entire course of the series barely even touches Aang's level of raw power and talent.

There's simply no argument for you to make here. Your view is horseshit because it is the exact opposite of what both shows present. You might as well have said that Zuko is the most gifted and talented of Ozai's children and Azula has to struggle and scrape by the whole series, it would be no less accurate an observation. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by insinuating that you haven't actually watched the shows, because otherwise you're trolling, or have an ulterior agenda.

Nice, thanks for adding substance (even tho the tone is toxic lol, ease up on the shaming).

Aang takes the entirety of the show, all three seasons, to actually utilize firebending. It's a HUGE point of the show that he needs to learn it but can't due to his own experiences, unwillingness due to the destruction it causes (and that he burned Katara), and due to the world's scarcity of firebenders that morally align with Aang. That alone is a gigantic contrast between Korra shooting a blast of air just because she feels like she needs to. And does she need to? What's the motivation of her getting over this? Aang has clear motivation to learn firebending, it's literally in the show's intro. It also adds onto the fact that the main villain(s) of TLA are firebenders, giving a stark parallel to literally dealing with his greatest foes by accepting a part of them.

Keep in mind, the only way Aang actually does learn and accept firebending is rediscovering the origin of it and learning it from an entirely new foundation ground up, with Zuko, the arc villain of the first 1.5 seasons nonetheless. This entire development absolutely squanders the journey Korra had with learning airbending.

Not to mention that it's established that learning your opposite element (air/earth, fire/water) is the hardest to learn and we actually see Aang struggle with the entire concept of being like earth, not just in a physical bending sense but to personify it is hard for him, whereas we don't really understand Korra's struggle to learn firebending or how it adds to her character that she's already overcome this and learned firebending. And Aang takes an episode to just get the concept of earthbending, the show is actually pretty good about scaling the abilities over time. He's not making suits of rock armor in the first episode. He just overcomes the hurdle.

Aang not taking his training seriously is not just because of raw talent. It's because he's a kid tasked with a hugely world-changing adult responsibility so he does what anyone would do, run away and procrastinate and have fun instead. There are several moments where the teacher or the team needs Aang to take something seriously and he'd rather have fun. Katara is envious of Aang at first but she comes into her own element and actually surpasses Aang in waterbending at the end of the show, even utilizing bloodbending which Aang can't do.

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Master Kazuya posted...

Aang takes the entirety of the show, all three seasons, to actually utilize firebending. It's a HUGE point of the show that he needs to learn it but can't due to his own experiences, unwillingness due to the destruction it causes (and that he burned Katara), and due to the world's scarcity of firebenders that morally align with Aang

Master Kazuya posted...

Keep in mind, the only way Aang actually does learn and accept firebending is rediscovering the origin of it and learning it from an entirely new foundation ground up, with Zuko, the arc villain of the first 1.5 seasons nonetheless.

Aang doesn't learn firebending for three seasons because he doesn't have a teacher until there are nine episodes left in the show. And he learns the origin of it one episode later and that's basically it for how much time they spend focusing on him learning it.

Master Kazuya posted...

Not to mention that it's established that learning your opposite element (air/earth, fire/water) is the hardest to learn and we actually see Aang struggle with the entire concept of being like earth, not just in a physical bending sense but to personify it is hard for him, whereas we don't really understand Korra's struggle to learn firebending or how it adds to her character that she's already overcome this and learned firebending.

This wasn't an issue for Korra, we see that she was able to firebend when she was a kid. Her hurdle was the spiritual side of things and she only overcame that by nearly killing herself.

Master Kazuya posted...

That alone is a gigantic contrast between Korra shooting a blast of air just because she feels like she needs to. And does she need to? What's the motivation of her getting over this?

She's in a desperate situation where the rest of her bending has been taken from her and Amon is about to do the same thing to Mako, so she tries it out of desperation. And there's no mastery of it even then, she literally just punches at range.

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Master Kazuya posted...

You can find quite a few flaws in LoK's writing, but it's odd to think of her as good at everything when she spends most of the series getting bodied by the main antagonist of each season. She also constantly makes controversial political decisions that everyone hates her for (allowing the Northern Water Tribe to occupy the South under the pretense of peace despite showing up with an armada, opening up the spirit gates permanently). Aang also had to make similar decisions (allowing the Fire Nation colonies in Earth Kingdom to remain independent), but the series gets to gloss over that by adapting those events in the comics only. Korra had to actually deal with the fallout of the Avatar's intervention in world politics in the series proper.

pegusus123456 posted...

Aang doesn't learn firebending for three seasons because he doesn't have a teacher until there are nine episodes left in the show. And he learns the origin of it one episode later and that's basically it for how much time they spend focusing on him learning it.

First off there was Jeong Jeong, secondly the point isn't that he's working on firebending for 3 seasons vs 1 episode, it's that the tension and stakes of him not knowing firebending exists the entire time. Both subtly because you know it has to happen at some point and time is running out, and overtly when it's directly called out in the show.

pegusus123456 posted...

She's in a desperate situation where the rest of her bending has been taken from her and Amon is about to do the same thing to Mako, so she tries it out of desperation. And there's no mastery of it even then, she literally just punches at range.

That's a situational moment though. Korra needs to use airbending in that moment because that's what that particular moment calls for. It's not like, Amon is weak to airbending so Korra you must master this, or Amon's mask will come off if you dislodge the pins with air, or Amon is made of leaves so he will blow away with the wind. It's so situational and not built up that airbending was crucial at all. She could've thrown a crowbar at him, done some capoeira, etc. Aang's struggle to learn firebending is built up and delivered in an entire narrative purpose whereas Korra's struggle to learn airbending is not built up and just used for one moment that doesn't actually highlight significance of her learning or struggling with airbending in the first place.

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I don't know, it really seems like you're praising TLA and criticizing Korra for what roughly amounts to the same thing.

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MorganTJ posted...

You can find quite a few flaws in LoK's writing, but it's odd to think of her as good at everything when she spends most of the series getting bodied by the main antagonist of each season. She also constantly makes controversial political decisions that everyone hates her for (allowing the Northern Water Tribe to occupy the South under the pretense of peace despite showing up with an armada, opening up the spirit gates permanently). Aang also had to make similar decisions (allowing the Fire Nation colonies in Earth Kingdom to remain independent), but the series gets to gloss over that by adapting those events in the comics only. Korra had to actually deal with the fallout of the Avatar's intervention in world politics in the series proper.

This goes to my point of
Master Kazuya posted...

Korra is not as crucial of a plot element as Aang was. The avatar is not needed in the new world.

TLA has a pretty basic bending-to-character dynamic. The better of a bender you were, it generally means you have a stronger will or developed character or whatever you wanna call it. The avatar being the only one to be able to master 4 elements shows power not literally but also character wise, there's an instant respect gained because it's unheard of for someone like that to exist and that world is kind of set up as raw power = autonomous character. Bending and personalities are a lot more interwoven, and yeah if you look at that concept deeper it falls apart, like there's no reason the best martial artist should be the one making decisions in a real world scenario, but it's just the premise of the show.

In Korra, the issues are a lot more political and society driven, and its problem is that it's trying to carry that old premise of bending = character and put it in a real world scenario. And as mentioned, it falls apart. Korra's avatar title is just kept as a sort of honor like England's royal family, and her skill in bending isn't anything significant to making these social decisions, they only matter in sport and beating up baddies. Korra is a teenager making political decisions in a technological society that already has a sophisticated government, which is different than Aang calling for decisions to be made when the entire world is under tyrannical (and somewhat genocidal) rule and he's the one meant to reverse things. The world is actually in peril and needs a hero. Korra's world is sophisticated and nuanced, which requires a sophisticated and nuanced way to deal with it, not just "you're the avatar and you can bend things".

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I feel like Korra being the Avatar in a place where the title is kinda irrelevant is the point. Korra assigns being the Avatar as her identity. Aang never wanted the title in the first place.

We cant view them the same.

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Master Kazuya posted...

In Korra, the issues are a lot more political and society driven, and its problem is that it's trying to carry that old premise of bending = character and put it in a real world scenario. And as mentioned, it falls apart. Korra's avatar title is just kept as a sort of honor like England's royal family, and her skill in bending isn't anything significant to making these social decisions, they only matter in sport and beating up baddies. Korra is a teenager making political decisions in a technological society that already has a sophisticated government, which is different than Aang calling for decisions to be made when the entire world is under tyrannical (and somewhat genocidal) rule and he's the one meant to reverse things. The world is actually in peril and needs a hero. Korra's world is sophisticated and nuanced, which requires a sophisticated and nuanced way to deal with it, not just "you're the avatar and you can bend things".

Alright, this does make me think you haven't seen the show because this entire "criticism" is one of the main premises of the show. It's explicitly brought up - I think they literally say "the world doesn't need an Avatar anymore" - and trying to find her place in a world that seems to no longer need the Avatar is basically Korra's main struggle.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Alright, this does make me think you haven't seen the show because this entire "criticism" is one of the main premises of the show. It's explicitly brought up - I think they literally say "the world doesn't need an Avatar anymore" - and trying to find her place in a world that seems to no longer need the Avatar is basically Korra's main struggle.

I'm saying I don't think the show countered that claim in any significant or meaningful way whatsoever. The world doesn't need the avatar, and after everything that happened....yeah, it didn't need the avatar.

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Master Kazuya posted...

I'm saying I don't think the show countered that claim in any significant or meaningful way whatsoever. The world doesn't need the avatar, and after everything that happened....yeah, it didn't need the avatar.

Spoilers that TC hasn't seen: she literally averted the apocalypse and the Avatar will be important for maintaining relations between the spirits and the humans.

And there's a pretty good implication that it'll be an important diplomatic role between the nations.

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Legend of Korra is amazing and should absolutely be seen by ANY Last Airbender fan. Season 2 was bad when it was released, but is now seen as more of a weaker setup season. The reason it is seen as the weak is because it has the weakest villain of the 4 seasons and a lot of setup.

Season 3 of Korra is one of the best Avatar seasons period.

Watched the first 6 episodes so far of s2. About to enter the Wan saga. It's alright so far. Just can't wait for season 3!

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avatar TLA is so overrated by Western internet dwellers. y'all must've never watched actually good shounen

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BoyOfBattle posted...

avatar TLA is so overrated by Western internet dwellers. y'all must've never watched actually good shounen

@BoyOfBattle

Eh not really, I have a lot of shonen under my belt and TLA is still up there.

Though if anyone is interested in the best shonen:

• Attack on Titan
• Seven Deadly Sins (strictly the first season)
• Yu Yu Hakusho
• Jujutsu Kaisen
• Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood
• Hunter X Hunter 2011

Though if I am being honest if you limit yourself to just shonen you are missing out on some of the very best anime like Steins;Gate, Parasyte, Psycho Pass S1, Baccano!, Made in Abyss, Mob Psycho.

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deoxxys posted...

Though if anyone is interested in the best shonen:

Attack on Titan

gg liking a show by a nazi

an awful show at that

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BoyOfBattle posted...

avatar TLA is so overrated by Western internet dwellers. y'all must've never watched actually good shounen

go back to shitting up OT

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QueenCarly posted...

korra is wishy washy liberal garbage carried by really well written characters

How?

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QueenCarly posted...

gg liking a show by a nazi

an awful show at that

What?

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spikethedevil posted...

How?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ModX151Ipgs

Watch this guys series on Korra, fantastic explaination

spikethedevil posted...

What?

Hajime Isayama is a known far right nationalist

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Ngl, I think the Avatar would be better if it was the spirit of the world. I don't really dig this light vs darkness thing.

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PiOverlord posted...

Ngl, I think the Avatar would be better if it was the spirit of the world. I don't really dig this light vs darkness thing.

Common criticism of the Wan subplot, a lot of people weren't happy with how little nuance the Raava/Vaatu relation had.

MorganTJ posted...

Common criticism of the Wan subplot, a lot of people weren't happy with how little nuance the Raava/Vaatu relation had.

I get it's yin/yang but I just feel turning the spirit world into light vs dark turns it into a tired trope.

They say this is light vs dark but really this is good vs evil.

I just preferred how the original Avatar handled spirits. They felt like agents of the world vs agents of good or evil.

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PiOverlord posted...

I get it's yin/yang but I just feel turning the spirit world into light vs dark turns it into a tired trope.

They say this is light vs dark but really this is good vs evil.

I just preferred how the original Avatar handled spirits. They felt like agents of the world vs agents of good or evil.

It's not even just a yin and yang thing - Vaatu winning is bad for everyone. There's nothing ambiguous about it.

QueenCarly posted...

gg liking a show by a nazi

an awful show at that

@QueenCarly
lmaooo?

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MorganTJ posted...

It's not even just a yin and yang thing - Vaatu winning is bad for everyone. There's nothing ambiguous about it.

Are you sure you know what that "yin and yang thing" you speak of is? Since the Vaatu/Raava relationship is very similar.

https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Raava#Trivia

deoxxys posted...

@QueenCarly
lmaooo?

Yes?

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TheShadowViper posted...

Are you sure you know what that "yin and yang thing" you speak of is? Since the Vaatu/Raava relationship is very similar.

https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Raava#Trivia

Do you? It's not supposed to be good and evil, it's a whole lot of opposites. The point is that Vaatu is blatantly evil, when Spirits shouldn't even have conventional human morality, but Vaatu just wants everything to be worse. Yin and yang are supposed to exist in harmony, which Raava and Vaatu never did. The Moon and Ocean spirits were better examples of that relationship.

I have finally completed season 2 of LoK and... I kinda really hated it. I really tried to have an open mind and like it, but I honestly can say without a doubt that I had a lot of problems with it. The big thing that happens, that Korra loses her connection to the past Avatars was something I already knew and was preparing for, but I still ended up really hating that too. Believe it or not, that wasn't what I hated the most, though.

I really do think Raava and Vaatu were the worst decision the showrunners came up with in all of Avatar. I kinda already said my piece even before they were officially revealed after I finished 6, but it basically applies to that but tenfold. I always liked the idea that the Avatar was the spirit of the world, here to create balance in the world. I mean, it possesses the ability to bend the natural elements of the world, so it only made sense to me that would be the case.

To find out, the Avatar literally is just the spirit of "good" is just really unsatisfying. I know Avatar takes a lot from Eastern Philosophy and thought, but they turned what I thought was a unique concept and made it into a generic spirit realm to me. It really felt like I was watching a generic anime about evil spirits and I have to agree that Vaatu feels very out of place in the Avatar world. I see what an earlier posted mentioned about LoK feeling more "black and white" compared to the original series with its villains even though this show was supposed to be the more mature show.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a pure evil villain at times, but usually I like when they are surrounded by a great ensemble of villains that the pure evil develops. LIke, Ozai was pretty generic evil, but I could see how he created all the more developed villains. Speaking of Ozai, I didn't know it was possible to create a more 1-dimensional villain than him, but Unalaq and Vaatu both take the cake there. I guess if I accept Vaatu as the embodiment of evil, that makes sense, but I can't believe how underwhelming of a villain Unalaq is himself. If Ozai was a villain that believed in Sozin's philosophy of showing the world the superiority of the fire nation, Unalaq literally is just a villain that I'm constantly waiting for him to truly explain his motives but falls short. He mentioned that Wan was wrong to close the spirit world, but honestly, it felt half-baked, and like he was going to show the positives of it, but it never came to be. I suppose season 3 might support his goal, but considering this is more of an anthology of different stories due to the nature of the show at the time, I really feel like each season should be able to stand on its own.

And the final fight, jeez, if each season might have been the last due to potential cancelation, this would have been a god-awful series finale in all regards. The story already I have talked about why I hated it, along with the villain, but that final fight, it's like, how is this the team that gave us the Ozai/Aang and Final Agni Kai battle? A show based around bending, and we get a poorly-made kaiju wannabe battle. Like, this is what the god of darkness brings to the table? The Final battle between Aang and Ozai was a great showcase of all the elements, and it felt like what you would think an Avatar finale would be. Even if you hated the deus ex machina or thought Ozai was generic, I think the battle itself stood up to the premise of a show about element-benders. Just again, knowing this could have been the series finale, it honestly leaves me with an empty pit knowing they thought this was the perfect conclusion to the Avatar saga.

Finally, the Avatar genocide we saw, as I said, I did hate it. Reincarnation is a thing brought up in many different stories, but I believed Avatar had a very unique use of it. I thought it was great that, as an Avatar, you would not only reincarnate in this specific cycle, but that you could talk to your past lives for guidance or more. It is the strangest thing to me, that some people think this is a forward-making move and I've seen others say this was the best move that LoK could make. This was a huge characteristic of the Avatar itself and one of the better parts I do say, and getting rid of it feels anything but. Avatar can be a power-fantasy story, but the reincarnation aspects of the Avatar makes it feel like it's more than that, and that the Avatar is a living breathing growing number of spirits in one.

Now, the reason I don't think that is the worst part of this season is that, I'm aware this is permanent within the show, but that doesn't mean it can't be reversed in another time. A future show could have that Avatar decide that Korra's (the character) failure was never being able to restore this connection and seek to fix it. Simple as that, they could find a way. Raava and Vaatu on the other hand... you can't get rid of that and how they influenced the spirit world and the Avatar itself. What they did there, that is permanent, and to me, it's a shame all future Avatar series have to build off that.

Unlike many, I also didn't really like the Wan storyline tbh. In my humble opinion, as I said in the OP, I am a firm believer in less is more for mythical things. While I said I liked the idea of the Avatar being the spirit of the world, I would rather, other than small little tidbits of lore that aren't really that deeply explored, not have it explained at all. I feel like season 2 of LoK really ruined a lot of the magic of the show, which is ironic considering this is the most we have seen of the spirit world in the shows thus far.

I was always under the impression that people said the love triangle bogged this season down, but I actually did not see that at all, so maybe I'm mistaken. Still, this was the kinda season that makes me really not want to watch the show anymore, but supposedly, season 3 is the gem that makes season 2 worth enduring, so I'll continue on. I just hope to never hear of Raavas or Vaatus again, yeesh.

Sorry for the long post, I just couldn't stop typing, lol.

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Wan is only good cause most of Korra sucks. As a random ass sideplot, it's better than whatever S2 was doing.

Now that you've finished season 1, I feel like I can talk about Amon. I thought he was one of the coolest villains ever and his role was a PERFECT fusion of TLA lore with modern age LOK political tension. It addressed the question that s1 Legend of Korra introduced, do we need the Avatar, really?

It seemed entirely plausible that a non bender would see equality as a righteous political cause and do so by removing all bending, developing a secret technique to remove bending, having a following, and actually having a point. Who is this guy? The fact that he's an older guy, so skilled, and clearly has some sort of resentment means maybe he's linked to TLA in some abstract way but grew into his own character.

And what was he?....Just a fucking bloodbender political narc generic bad guy. It was such a fucking letdown, especially the fact that he was a bender at the end of the day and had dumb ulterior motives.

He was the only reason I kept watching S1. I felt like Mako and Bolin started off strong but eventually degraded into 1 dimensional characters. Bolin was the Sokka wannabe but he was ONLY the doofus and comic relief and not any of the other things Sokka was in addition to that role. Mako went from independent fighter taking care of his bro semi-Zuko to "hmm do I wanna fuck Korra or Asami".

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Yeah, S2 was definitely the weak spot. It almost feels like they forgot a few scenes and just had Jinora show up out of nowhere. That's just silly because they set up that Raava spent time in that teapot, that you could "taste the light" in every cup, and that Iroh had the teapot. So it really feels like they were supposed to have a scene where Jinora finds the teapot and gives it to Korra to bring Raava back.

On the bright side, unless they have a series set 10k years in the future, they shouldn't have any reason to mention them again lol.

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