Board 8 > Genshin Impact Topic 8: To Inazuma; to forbid, divine.

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swordz9
09/05/21 11:01:25 AM
#301:


Almost got 2k on the latest event, but damn I guess I dont have enough Pyro characters to make it work for that boost.
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HeroDelTiempo17
09/05/21 12:25:30 PM
#302:


foolm0r0n posted...
I always thought the game had a great content design where you could comfortably pick however much you wanted to play. You can skip all the time sinks if you want.

But now there's so much story content that it is overwhelming. There's lots of gates in the story too, so you have to grind through missions just to see the new stuff. I still haven't seen inazuma because of that. It also sucks to have to skip side missions because you don't have time.

Yeah as a new player this is the issue I have with trying to catch up. During the prologue you're fairly restricted while still having a lot of freedom to explore the initial map, so I didn't feel the FOMO. Yeah, you can't do the limited events but you also have no need to grind. That changes once your world and AR rank up and you get access to the second region, which not only feels MUCH bigger but gives you more and more systems you have to engage with to keep up with the scaling. You can reduce your world level to but that disincentivises exploration since the rewards also get reduced. Add in Inazuma and the limited events requiring story quests, also disincentivising exploratio, and the FOMO fully sets in. I got soooo many sidequests to do and have barely started on side stories because I don't have the time.

Still having a lot of fun with the game, it's just developed a weird set of priorities suddenly. I'm about to hit AR30 but I'm only on Act 2 of Liyue which is going to open up another tier of grind to do. I'm not sure if that's a normal rate of progression or not, but I feel like going through the story more slowly than I do dailies got me to this point.

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azuarc
09/05/21 12:42:10 PM
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I was AR32-ish when I finished all the content that was available in Liyue. That was before Dragonspine was available, and I also powered through it pretty hard. Someone taking their time, doing more dailies and resin activities, is probably going to be higher.

I'm strangely interested in hearing what the new player experience is like because I have to imagine it's a good bit different.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/05/21 3:01:13 PM
#304:


azuarc posted...
I was AR32-ish when I finished all the content that was available in Liyue. That was before Dragonspine was available, and I also powered through it pretty hard. Someone taking their time, doing more dailies and resin activities, is probably going to be higher.

I'm strangely interested in hearing what the new player experience is like because I have to imagine it's a good bit different.

Yeah, and I mean I'm doing much less exploration in Liyue than I did in Mondstadt. I had over 50% on each subregion there when I finished and over 70 on some, in Liyue I'm near the end of Chapter 1 Act 2 and I have 12-39% (and the 39% is in Sea of Clouds which seems much smaller). I also have not TOUCHED Dragonspine. Don't even have the Statue there, which I think is the only one I have remaining on the map minus Inazuma.

As for new player experience, other than feeling overwhelmed at the sheer amount of Content I'm not really sure. I haven't felt particularly gated on anything outside of the initial AR gating dailies and the like so that's nice. There's a bit of systems overload at the start but it eases you in before the world starts ranking up and it REALLY matters. I hit 20 before I completed the prologue which was a bit of a roadblock but one that I quickly passed by dumping my resources into my main party. The F2P characters seem more than capable (except Amber who I just hate using outside puzzles) and from what I hear they remain that way. I've had a lot of success in combat just by stacking Elemental Mastery on Lisa and comboing her with Xiangling. Noelle has also been an MVP. Still wish it was more generous with wishes outside of the initial 16 is gives for newcomer rolls, but not lacking decent units helps alleviate that.

I remember glancing through the update history and being surprised at some of the QOL/systems that weren't initially there, like the ability to even see completion percentage and the entire area reputation system. That stuff helps. Also there was apparently an entire map that was only available for a limited time? Weird!

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foolm0r0n
09/05/21 6:01:52 PM
#305:


I joined after dragonspine. Did the first arc and then while going to liyue ran into dragonspine, and thought it was just a little extra area. So I beat the entire thing in one 5 hour sitting. Got kinda burned out on the game after that and didn't get to liyue. When I got back into the game I went to liyue but all the momentum was lost so I haven't done many missions. I mostly jump back in for the special events.

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foolm0r0n
09/05/21 6:02:45 PM
#306:


Reminds me of playing WoW when BC was about to come out so I had to grind a character up to 60. Only got to like 45, after hundreds of hours. I just used my friend's 60s to play it instead and it was great.

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SwiftyDC
09/05/21 6:54:39 PM
#307:


Need 19 more fruit to ascend Raiden to 90. Also need a bunch of those charms that the samurai's drop, like alot.

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SwiftyDC
09/05/21 9:52:47 PM
#308:




Yoooo

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azuarc
09/05/21 11:02:26 PM
#309:


SwiftyDC posted...
Need 19 more fruit to ascend Raiden to 90. Also need a bunch of those charms that the samurai's drop, like alot.

There are enough fruit on the island to do it all in one farming run. If you really need, you can join mine, though.

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SwiftyDC
09/05/21 11:08:28 PM
#310:


azuarc posted...
There are enough fruit on the island to do it all in one farming run. If you really need, you can join mine, though.

Yeah, but I didn't feel like opening up a guide. I winged it and thought I hit every island, but guess not. Not worried about it, she'll get there eventually.

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azuarc
09/06/21 2:16:07 AM
#311:


I just cleared the middle while exploring. Apparently I haven't done everything yet, though, because it's only at 80%. I had to hustle through the quests on Watatsumi today instead, though, in order to unlock Signora before the weekly reset. I got there, and I was very impressed with the drama involved in the cutscenes, but I wish I hadn't been forced to rush through it. I might have done them all in one day under other circumstances, but today I was doing them because I "had" to do them, and it gave them a different feeling.

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swordz9
09/06/21 11:47:59 AM
#312:


Beat floor 12 and got 0 stars
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swordz9
09/06/21 12:29:01 PM
#313:


Fishing in this is fun and easy. I like it.
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swordz9
09/06/21 2:20:30 PM
#314:


Got most of the achievements for fishing already too. Ive caught over 100 fish today and 16/20 of the fish available. Last 4 are probably in Inazuma since I havent done any there yet.
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Sceptilesolar
09/06/21 3:40:22 PM
#315:


I did a big fishing run yesterday since I hadn't done any yet, trying to catch all the fish at all fishing locations. It took quite a while though. And I still missed one that's only in one specific point in Liyue. Not my favorite mechanic, but I guess there's no rush either. I'm hoping the upcoming fishing event might help somewhat for the grind? But I don't really know what to expect there.

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azuarc
09/06/21 9:08:26 PM
#316:


My only problem with fishing, which isn't really a problem so much as my impatience, is that it takes days for the fish to respawn.

Well, that, and it's boring busywork.

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SockoressKnight
09/06/21 10:15:57 PM
#317:


80 saves into pity, and I finally get Raiden Shogun. Primogem stash down to 8K
Spent my entire day off doing the archon story quest to completion. I was surprised, then pleasantly surprised, then disappointingly not surprised

EDIT: added spoiler tag to vague ramblings

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Lord Ephraim
09/06/21 11:02:28 PM
#318:


It's very sneaky of MiHoYo to tie Raiden Shogun's real power to a low constellation rather than C6 turning her into a monster.

At C0, she's just a solid support that doesn't do as much damage as say C5 Fischl but doesn't require repositionion and 100% uptime on reactions. For Eula players, Raiden is a huge bonus to have. Likewise you can go heavy EM Raiden and try Overload builds with pyro characters or electro charged with Tartaglia. A good character but not gamebreaking like Kazuha. To me he's still probably the best character since Ganyu.
At C2 Raiden's value as a Sub-DPS skyrockets as that 60% ignore defense on her burst is insane. I'm talking C6 Xiao levels of power. If you go a bit more and get C3 her burst gets another 20% more damage. C4 and C6 are good but you don't need them. Say if C2 and C4 were swapped I would be annoyed that would make her too much pay to win. C2 is realistically for dolphins and F2P hoarders if you get lucky. I'd say the grasscutter isn't absolutely required because The Catch is honestly quite overpowered for a free to play option so players aren't pressured to roll on the weapon banner like they were for Ayaka.

If that is too much to read then all I'll say is that MiHoYo, just buff electro reactions and Raiden is perfectly fine and doesn't need direct buffs.

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swordz9
09/07/21 8:50:30 AM
#319:


I might try to get a C0 Raiden at least since I have Queen Eula. Id have to win a coin flip though and I tend to lose those. Im like 15-20 away from the potential 75 pity so well see. Saras kit seems weird :(

Also I dunno what I would need to actually get stars on floor 12. Feel like I need better everything (artifacts, weapons, talent levels) since I just cant do enough damage fast enough for any of the time limits
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HeroDelTiempo17
09/07/21 11:45:22 AM
#320:


Act 1 complete! Had to look up how to continue the story because I never did Amber's sidequest but I'm on the Act 2 prologue now. I'm about halfway through AR32 with plenty of more stuff to do. The level grind has really intensified at this point and I'm starting to run out of gold and mats for my main party of 4. Might have to park at 35 for a while when I get there.

How far into Inazuma's story do you have to get to unlock the current limited events? I don't want to miss anything major but I also want to take things a bit more slowly after rushing most of Liyue.

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azuarc
09/07/21 5:13:22 PM
#321:


Without looking, my guess is that you probably just need to get out of Ritou, which isn't a lot. There's a whole quest arc before that involving getting to Inazuma in the first place by convincing Beidou to take you there. She's running a fighting tournament and wants you to participate.

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swordz9
09/07/21 5:29:27 PM
#322:


Im proud I was able to beat floor 12. Kinda embarrassed I got 0 stars doing so, but what can ya do. I have no idea who to use to burst down those enemies super fast. For now Ill probably focus on raising Eulas talents to 8 or higher since shes my best damage dealer number wise. Even without reactions I feel like she stomps everything else I use
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SwiftyDC
09/07/21 9:33:48 PM
#323:


Decided to R5 the Black Sword.

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
09/07/21 9:39:01 PM
#324:




Woooo! First 5* Catalyst from the Standard Banner.

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
09/08/21 12:20:44 AM
#325:


36* abyss.

My teams this go around:

A: Ayaka, Xingqui, Chongyun, Jean
B: Eula, Fischl, Zhongli, Albedo

Cryo cube and 12-1 felt a lot more lenient.

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
09/09/21 3:08:59 PM
#327:


NioraptH posted...
How many crowns has everyone used so far?

For me,
Crowns used: 2 (Ganyu AA 1 / Yoimiya AA 1)
Remaining: 9

1, on Ganyu AA

I plan on using one on Raidens Ult


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Sceptilesolar
09/09/21 3:12:36 PM
#328:


5; 3 on Hu Tao and 2 on Zhongli, since I don't need his basic attack. The next 2 are for Raiden once I get more boss drops; I'll be able to max her burst next week.

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swordz9
09/09/21 3:13:34 PM
#329:


None yet, but I have a lot. Maybe on Eula to make her even more crazy?
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SockoressKnight
09/09/21 3:59:03 PM
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azuarc
09/10/21 2:36:22 AM
#332:


Two.

Fischl E
Ganyu AA

I barely use Fischl any more, but it made sense at the time.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/10/21 2:47:33 PM
#333:


Finally did Ritou Escape Plan and made it to Inazuma, just in time to get the gems from the event! Finally feel like I can go back to taking the game slow again. Well, and grinding, because I just hit AR35. Lots of grinding.

So far the F2P team of Traveler (Anemo) /Xiangling/ Noelle/ Lisa has been serving me well. I could maybe sub Barbara for Noelle and more of those sweet elemental combos but I honestly like using Noelle too much. Xiangling is also C1, funnily enough not from the current banner but because I got her as my 4* from the second newcomer 10 pull before the guaranteed one. She's good so I guess I can't complain.

No 5*s yet (besides Aloy) but I also have Sucrose C2, Kujou Sara C1, and Razor. Not sure if they're worth using but I don't yet have the resources to get any of them up to par.

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swordz9
09/10/21 3:25:32 PM
#334:


My Sara is C2 now I believe. Just been playing whenever I can which isnt too much still, but Ill be getting through Inazuma part 1 eventually dammit. Almost feel like abandoning the artifact grind. Im just so sick of weeks of literally trash I cant even use for anything
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HeroDelTiempo17
09/10/21 4:05:39 PM
#335:


That reminds me, should I even bother with grinding out some half-decent 4* artifacts or should I just wait? I'm getting by okay with the random 3/4* ones I find so it's low priority but my setup still feels like a mess.

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PrinceKaro
09/10/21 4:09:52 PM
#336:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
No 5*s yet (besides Aloy) but I also have Sucrose C2, Kujou Sara C1, and Razor. Not sure if they're worth using but I don't yet have the resources to get any of them up to par.

if you have sucrose at least C1 you should be using her, she is so good

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PrinceKaro
09/10/21 4:12:32 PM
#337:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
That reminds me, should I even bother with grinding out some half-decent 4* artifacts or should I just wait? I'm getting by okay with the random 3/4* ones I find so it's low priority but my setup still feels like a mess.

don't grind artifacts until the domains can drop 5 star ones

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/10/21 4:38:04 PM
#338:


PrinceKaro posted...
if you have sucrose at least C1 you should be using her, she is so good

Noted, the ability to stack charges of cooldowns seemed very good but I'd already invested a lot into the Traveler for my Anemo needs.

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azuarc
09/11/21 11:06:04 AM
#339:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
should I even bother with grinding out some half-decent 4* artifacts or should I just wait?

You should have serviceable main stats on your carry. Beyond that, only worry about artifacts if you find yourself getting stonewalled by content. You should take the time from 40-45, especially, to focus on farming everything else -- like overworld bosses and weapon materials -- so that when you get to 45, you can focus exclusively on artifacts for a while.

This is speaking purely in terms of resin expenditure. If you still have game content, obviously squeeze that in as you see fit.

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swordz9
09/11/21 11:58:15 AM
#341:


I swapped to farming bosses so I can ascend Sayu and Yoimiya more. I cant find any of these fucking Naku weeds anywhere though. I went to Tatarasuna since thats where the items says its located, but it must be behind all the barriers there and I havent advanced enough in Inazuma for that yet. Got plenty of crystal marrow for Sayu at least. I might just have to slap on mediocre artifacts for my characters and deal because Im sick of running artifact domains hundreds of times for the same wrong main and sub stats >_>
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swordz9
09/11/21 12:08:43 PM
#343:


Gonna try to muscle through a fair amount of it today since I dont have any obligations :D. Ill probably get my Eula talents as high as I can today too because I prefer her play style over Ganyus and she does a ton of damage.
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swordz9
09/11/21 5:15:40 PM
#344:


Yae looks cuter in game than I expectedhmm do I want to try for her or Raiden. No idea when Yae is even expected to come though
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swordz9
09/12/21 2:28:24 PM
#345:


When can I do Bounties/Requests for Inazuma?
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PrinceKaro
09/12/21 2:52:33 PM
#346:


swordz9 posted...
When can I do Bounties/Requests for Inazuma?

after the 2.0 story quests i think?

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swordz9
09/12/21 4:29:48 PM
#347:


That would be the Ayaka/Yoimiya ones right?
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PrinceKaro
09/12/21 4:34:11 PM
#349:


I think you need to do both of those to get the next main story, I can't remember

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SovietOmega
09/12/21 8:36:08 PM
#350:


swordz9 posted...
When can I do Bounties/Requests for Inazuma?
You need reputation to be level 2. The story missions will offer a hefty reputation boost, and then you'll just need some exploration and world quests done.

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azuarc
09/13/21 10:34:30 AM
#351:


"Hefty reputation boost"...without grinding all of them, I missed out on bounties for the first two weeks of Inazuma simply because the amount the quests offered was pretty paltry.

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